LTN mixing it up with Bolts fans

[Drederick Tatum]

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=24077&page=1&pp=10

Very good discussion going on with LTN and ThunderStruck on this thread on the Bolts site. LTN comes in on post 25 on page 3. Very respectful discussion and good analysis, no smack talk (although this might disappoint some :D ).

[WoodysGirl]

Gotta love Latuna. We should send her on scouting missions...

[ndanger]

Gotta love Latuna. We should send her on scouting missions...
I would put her up against any body on any board any time and have fun watchin' her school 'em! :D Girls got skills!

[LaTunaNostra]

http://forums.chargers.com/showthread.php?t=24077&page=1&pp=10

Very good discussion going on with LTN and ThunderStruck on this thread on the Bolts site. LTN comes in on post 25 on page 3. Very respectful discussion and good analysis, no smack talk (although this might disappoint some :D ).
Smack starting now..lol, but I am going to contain myself..til mid week, and then they do have a smack forum.

My finger tips are raw. Come help me out. :p:

PS Nice folks there. You can tell immediately it's not Philly.

[Dallas4ever]

PS Nice folks there. You can tell immediately it's not Philly.

What gave them away.....the commas or the periods.:D

[ndanger]

What gave them away.....the commas or the periods.:D
That was downright funny! :D :D :D :D

[LaTunaNostra]

That was downright funny! :D :D :D :D
And since they've been so darn hospitable, I will spare them (for now) the ad nauseum, ad infinitum #83 regaling.

That's my secret weapon -- I know how much it makes folks want to put their hands over their ears and run for the hills. LOL

[calico]

good job LTN, I hope some of their fans make it over here for some good game talk...it is rare these days.

[WoodysGirl]

And since they've been so darn hospitable, I will spare them (for now) the ad nauseum, ad infinitum #83 regaling.

That's my secret weapon -- I know how much it makes folks want to put their hands over their ears and run for the hills. LOLI caught the "she" comment, but I'm sure many of them didn't. Prolly thought it was a typo. LOL

[Yeagermeister]

What gave them away.....the commas or the periods.:D
And the teeth....not tooth :D

[Tio]

Uhh...I was there first...wheres my D*** cookie?

J/k :) I mostly lurk over there until a cowboy thread comes up.

[adbutcher]

What gave them away.....the commas or the periods.:D
:laugh2:

[wileedog]

What gave them away.....the commas or the periods.:D
:laugh2:

[LeonDixson]

I went over and checked it out. They seem like very nice folks. Not too many of the Bolts fan participated, however. It was mostly a dicussion between LTN and Thunderstruck.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Yeah she is doing well. Unfortunately, I can never be as nice as she is. I would end up being banned in three posts or less.

[Fla Cowpoke]

I went over and posted...and they change their tune when you don't throw rose petals at their feet.

I don't know that we are going to beat them, but I think they are in for a surprise this year. They were an unknown last year. They played a weak schedule. That isn't going to happen this year. If they win the division this year, I will be impressed.

[LaTunaNostra]

I went over and posted...and they change their tune when you don't throw rose petals at their feet.

I don't know that we are going to beat them, but I think they are in for a surprise this year. They were an unknown last year. They played a weak schedule. That isn't going to happen this year. If they win the division this year, I will be impressed.
HUH?

Who's throwing "rose petals"?

I was trying to learn something - and there's plenty of time for chest pumping later this week, imo.

That site is also an "official" site - so the tolerance for tomfoolery won't be as high.

The guy I was talking with is a nice variety of homer, imo, but I was amazed to learn they put up so many early leads..makes sense that they'd then keep the ball away from you in the last half with LT.

I still don't think they're an 'elite' AFC team like New England, Indy, and Pitts...but the explanation of how Brees was dicing the short and mid field up has me worried....I dunno if our backers are going to be savvy enough with their assignments to handle that kind of attack. Then if they turn their backs on LT, it's over.

Their defense is nothing special, for sure. But the offense is more complex and the passing game more soild than I thought - with or without Gates.

We can beat them, certainly, but hopefully not by coming from behind.

[Drederick Tatum]

HUH?


We can beat them, certainly, but hopefully not by coming from behind.


I think this game will be won or lost striaght up. What I mean by this is that I think the philosphy this year for Parcells will be to open the playbook wide open. The Cowboys often played from behind because of the limits imposed on what Parcells wanted to do with Quincy and Vinney in there. Now Parcells has "his guy" so to speak and the playbook will be wide open and more balanced with more options and imagination imo. Doesn't guarantee a win but I think we will see a less concervative approach.

[LaTunaNostra]

I think this game will be won or lost striaght up. What I mean by this is that I think the philosphy this year for Parcells will be to open the playbook wide open. The Cowboys often played from behind because of the limits imposed on what Parcells wanted to do with Quincy and Vinney in there. Now Parcells has "his guy" so to speak and the playbook will be wide open and more balanced with more options and imagination imo. Doesn't guarantee a win but I think we will see a less concervative approach.

Drederick, I think you're right. And Payton calling the plays has to lend itself to that possibility.

Tuna more than anything will want to eat up the clock with his runners, but you don't really win the time of possession game by failing to get into the endzone. If Drew has proven to him he is checking his reads the way Bill wants him to - from underneath to long, not vice versa, I don't see why Tuna wouldn't reward him with a complete playbook.

When Drew first signed on, several commentators mentioned Tuna would solve Drew's issues by having him read half the field...that summer that turned out to mean one half cut horizontally, not vertically.

But I just don't see that continuing into the regular season. Parcells isn't going to shoot himself in the foot that way.

I hope. ;)

[Gent]

Informative discussion over there. But that Thunderhead guy is still high off the fairy dust from their Cinderella season. They aren't really a 12-4 team and Gates being out is a major blow.

Still, I expect them to win. We haven't gotten all our moving parts synchronized yet. And those rookies will do something stupid. Bank on Ware springing LT for a spectacular gainer at some point.

-Gent

[Fla Cowpoke]

LTN,

I wasn't trying to slam you...you were having a great conversation and were just talking football in general. And they were being cordial in return. But I went over and posted there too, and while far from trying to get into a smack fest with them I gave them reasons why I felt Dallas had a chance. And I gave them a fair amount of respect. They bristled at the suggestion that their team just might not be as good as they think. It shall be interesting to see how they get when we really start talking smack.

[Fla Cowpoke]

This from SDChargeHer:

another year together for these guys. It will look like a scrimmage as the bolts constantly and cinsistently march down the field on teams. I looked for how they would fair in a loud hostile enviornment like minnesota. It was as if the crowd was not there they just walked right down and scored like nothing... I look for lots of this as the bolts become the # 1 offense and # 1 defense in the league. I don't see us as a quick score offense but an offense that can consistently move the ball down the field in big chunks until the td. Alot of 35-7 28-6 games for the bolts this year. The biggest eye openers will be how we dominate the eagles and pats on the road.


Reality is going to deal her a crushing blow.

[BrAinPaiNt]

This from SDChargeHer:



Reality is going to deal her a crushing blow.


Here is a reality...

We have not won an opening day game since 1999 and that was the great OT game vs the Skins.

I do not know if people actually realize our opening day record has been that bad since 1999.

2000 - 14-41 loss to the eagles...A flat out beating.

2001 - 6-10 loss to Tampa...that was a real ugly one.

2002 - 10-19 loss to the Texans...An expansion team beat us, but it was enough to make Jerry see it was time to bring in a real Head Coach and not another puppet.

2003 - 13-27 loss to Atlanta - arggghhh!!!

2004- 17-35 loss to Minny - Ah another revenge day by Moss.

So just something to keep in mind...we are not the best of late on Opening day.

[Doomsday101]

Here is a reality...

We have not won an opening day game since 1999 and that was the great OT game vs the Skins.

I do not know if people actually realize our opening day record has been that bad since 1999.

2000 - 14-41 loss to the eagles...A flat out beating.

2001 - 6-10 loss to Tampa...that was a real ugly one.

2002 - 10-19 loss to the Texans...An expansion team beat us, but it was enough to make Jerry see it was time to bring in a real Head Coach and not another puppet.

2003 - 13-27 loss to Atlanta - arggghhh!!!

2004- 17-35 loss to Minny - Ah another revenge day by Moss.

So just something to keep in mind...we are not the best of late on Opening day.

I'm one who does not put much into what took place in the past. Don't know if we will win or lose but these past games play no part in the outcome of this game

[Fla Cowpoke]

Here is a reality...

We have not won an opening day game since 1999 and that was the great OT game vs the Skins.

I do not know if people actually realize our opening day record has been that bad since 1999.

2000 - 14-41 loss to the eagles...A flat out beating.

2001 - 6-10 loss to Tampa...that was a real ugly one.

2002 - 10-19 loss to the Texans...An expansion team beat us, but it was enough to make Jerry see it was time to bring in a real Head Coach and not another puppet.

2003 - 13-27 loss to Atlanta - arggghhh!!!

2004- 17-35 loss to Minny - Ah another revenge day by Moss.

So just something to keep in mind...we are not the best of late on Opening day.

I have not made one comment indicating that we will win. It is a tough opening game. But the quote I posted from ChargeHer fan shows the ridiculous expectations over there. All games will be blowouts. Going to dominate Phiily and NE on the road. Games will be like scrimmages. Number one offense and defense. Please!

The Chargers are not the 85 Bears. Or the '92, '93 Cowboys.

[Seven]

Here is a reality...

We have not won an opening day game since 1999 and that was the great OT game vs the Skins.

I do not know if people actually realize our opening day record has been that bad since 1999.

2000 - 14-41 loss to the eagles...A flat out beating.

2001 - 6-10 loss to Tampa...that was a real ugly one.

2002 - 10-19 loss to the Texans...An expansion team beat us, but it was enough to make Jerry see it was time to bring in a real Head Coach and not another puppet.

2003 - 13-27 loss to Atlanta - arggghhh!!!

2004- 17-35 loss to Minny - Ah another revenge day by Moss.

So just something to keep in mind...we are not the best of late on Opening day.

Wheaties-pee-er-inner!!:p:

[BrAinPaiNt]

Wheaties-pee-er-inner!!:p:


I hope it changes this year....I hope we can break the TREND we have had the last few years. :starspin

[BrAinPaiNt]

I have not made one comment indicating that we will win. It is a tough opening game. But the quote I posted from ChargeHer fan shows the ridiculous expectations over there. All games will be blowouts. Going to dominate Phiily and NE on the road. Games will be like scrimmages. Number one offense and defense. Please!

The Chargers are not the 85 Bears. Or the '92, '93 Cowboys.


Was not commenting on that...just laying out a reality about our opening day problems of late. :(

[fortdick]

I think that the Bolts may have an awakening similar to last year was for us. We thought we had it done after the 10-6 season, only to realize that we weren't as good as we thought. They came out of no where, with an underachieving QB, against a less than threatening schedule. They may start believing their press and suffer a fall this year, as teams start blitzing Brees more.

The coversation between LTN and Thunderstruck was informative and articulate, but I could not help but wonder when talking about SD's running game. why no one mentioned that Roy will be in the box to stop LT. That will be a key to the game. Moving Roy up to support the run will make a solid run defense tremendous. Brees will have to throw more than normal to stretch the secondary and open up the run. The problem with that is the new pass rush the Boyz have. I look for a lot of pressure, if not sacks, against Brees and the Boyz taking a 3 point led into half time. From there, it is about ball control.

JJ will be the key to the offense. If he can get us good position on second and third downs, we win. If he can't, we lose. I know this is obvious, but I believe that he pick a four to five yard average per run behind our OLine. It is a solid unit and Riveria and Campbell will make the Rookie look great oon the right side.

BTW, I feel dumb because I didn't know LTN was of the female persuasion. I guess stereotyping is in full stride. I never gave it a thought that a woman is such an expert on football. I thought women spent Sundays at the mall!
(Ouch, the flames are burning me already!) :explode:

[BrAinPaiNt]

BTW, I feel dumb because I didn't know LTN was of the female persuasion. I guess stereotyping is in full stride. I never gave it a thought that a woman is such an expert on football. I thought women spent Sundays at the mall!
(Ouch, the flames are burning me already!) :explode:


Although I have seen pictures of her....I still think she is not a woman...but instead she is a she-devil. :p: ;)

[WoodysGirl]

BTW, I feel dumb because I didn't know LTN was of the female persuasion. I guess stereotyping is in full stride. I never gave it a thought that a woman is such an expert on football. I thought women spent Sundays at the mall!
(Ouch, the flames are burning me already!) :explode:Uhmm, malls open at 10. If done right, you can go to to the early church service, do a lil shopping and still get home before before the game comes on at noon cst. Men!!! pffpt :rolleyes:

[fortdick]

Uhmm, malls open at 10. If done right, you can go to to the early church service, do a lil shopping and still get home before before the game comes on at noon cst. Men!!! pffpt :rolleyes:

I read somewhere that women are better at multi-tasking than men. :)

BTW, I wish I hadn't clicked on the link the the Chargers site. Those folks think they are going up against Kansas Poly Tech instead on the Dalls Cowboys! They think that Brees can throw against our "Rookie CB's" and that Roy can't play now that the horsecollar is gone.

They also believe that we can't stop their running game and that Witten is not a threat against their LB's.

It just got me steaming and looking forward to Sunday! :mad:

[jsj6791]

FYI, that forum is in the official Chargers website so it's little too heavily moderated for my taste. Plus, that forum's only been open for less than a year, so most of the users are either new or from other message boards.

There are some good Cowboys discussions going on here at UT forum, http://forum.uniontrib.com/upload/forumdisplay.php?forumid=9, so I recommend visiting there for some good discussions. And, of course, there's a separate smack forum, so comments like, "you suck", "my dad can beat your dad", "your team stinks", and others similar will probably get moved to there. Other than that, feel free to join in let's talk about the upcoming game.

Btw, one of the Skin's fan already started a thread about your team to stir the pot (well, it was actually very insightful), so join in!!!!
http://forum.uniontrib.com/upload/showthread.php?t=50398&highlight=cowboys

[jsj6791]

Man, looks like I brought this thread to a screeching halt :)

Here's couple more threads about Cowboys.
http://forum.uniontrib.com/upload/showthread.php?t=50488
http://forum.uniontrib.com/upload/showthread.php?t=50493

And here's the latest interview with LT in regards to his home state, Texas. Enjoy!

NATIVE SON

Chargers All-Pro and Pro Bowl running back LaDainian Tomlinson grew up in Waco, Texas, 95 miles south of Dallas along I-35E. After a standout senior season at Waco’s University High School, Tomlinson earned a scholarship to TCU in Fort Worth, Texas. The TCU campus was just 32 miles from Texas Stadium, home of the Cowboys, and 35 miles from Cowboys Center, the team’s year-round training facility. LT shared some his memories of growing up in Texas and his childhood as a fan of the Cowboys.

What was the first game you ever played at Texas Stadium?... “My rookie year (2001) and it was real special because you know the Cowboys were my childhood team and I had been there to see a couple of games so it was really a dream come true to be back my first year in the NFL to be playing in Texas Stadium with my family and friends there.”
What was the first Cowboys game you ever attended?... “It was against the San Francisco 49ers when I was in junior high school and I got a chance to see Joe Montana and Jerry Rice. “That was big because even though I was a Cowboys fan, I liked Joe Montana and Jerry Rice too, along with Roger Craig.”
Who was your favorite Cowboys player growing up?... “Emmitt Smith. No doubt.”
Who was the first Cowboys player you ever met?... “I think it was Emmitt Smith at his football camp.”
What was your favorite Cowboys memory growing up?... “Their first Super Bowl. Winning that first Super Bowl. I remember when they went 1-15 so that first Super Bowl was big.”
What was the first Cowboys souvenir item that you owned?... “It was actually an Emmitt Smith football card and then later I got him to sign it.”
How do you describe Cowboys fans?... “They’re die-hard fans. They love football and it’s kind of expected with how big football is in Texas, especially with high school and college. Their fans are very loyal, but they’re very hard on them, they’re very hard on their teams. The thing is, they’re always there and they’re loyal.”
What was your best memory from your career at TCU?... “Our first championship during my junior year. We won our conference championship.”
What do you remember most about Dallas-Fort Worth?... “Going to school there and just kind of growing into a man. At that time, being from a smaller city (Waco), going to a big city like Dallas-Fort Worth was eye-opening. But at the same time, it allowed me to grow into the man I am.”
What was your favorite place to eat in Dallas-Fort Worth?... “Pappadeaux Seafood Kitchen and Pappacito’s Cantina”
Where was your favorite place to ‘chill out’ in Dallas-Fort Worth?... “There were some places my friends and I would go in Fort Worth or we’d go into a couple of places downtown Dallas or we might head into Arlington, which is right there too. There wasn’t any one place in particular.”
What’s the biggest similarity between San Diego and Dallas-Fort Worth?... “It’s kind of a laid back city. Both cities are laid back and even though it’s somewhat big, it’s still somewhat slow-paced.”
What’s the biggest difference between San Diego and Dallas-Fort Worth?... “Forth Worth is a cattle town. You got Cowboys that hang out, it’s a cattle town. San Diego is all about the beaches.”
You met your wife, LaTorsha, at TCU…How’d it happen?... “I had seen her around at school and thought she was very attractive. I just decided to get to know her a little better. As it turns out, I saw her while I was out one night, we both happened to be at the same fraternity party or something and I was with a buddy from high school and I had been telling him about her and I said ‘oh my god, there she is.’ He told me to talk to her so she walked right past and I said something, I think it was ‘hello’ and it started from there and the rest is history.”

http://www.chargers.com/news/headline_detail.cfm?news_key=2292