Ut Vs. Ohs

[dargonking999]

Which team does winnign this game mean more to?

UT

or Ohio

[Dawgs0916]

UT so Mack Brown can show he teaches his team mental toughness, something they haven't been able to prove in the past...cough OU cough....

[Nors]

Ohio State - wins in a run away

Big 12 is a joke - Oklahoma to date a black eye.

[roughneck266]

Yeah they sort of have a monkey on their back, so I will have to say UT as well.

[da_boyz_mk]

i think it's texas....they need to prove all the doubters wrong..what better way to do it than go into the shoe and beat ohio st.

[roughneck266]

Ohio State - wins in a run away

Big 12 is a joke - Oklahoma to date a black eye.
Kind of what Michigan thought last year isn't it?

[big dog cowboy]

Wrong forum.

[dargonking999]

Ohio State - wins in a run away

Big 12 is a joke - Oklahoma to date a black eye.

wasnt the question,

[bbgun]

Why does the camera seem to be in the nosebleed section? It's too far away from the action. Zoom in!

[Kilyin]

Uh, who cares.

[bbgun]

You like watching the game from a mile away? Get lost.

[dargonking999]

My God, UT is owning Ohio St, right now, i mean 3 carries for vince 52 yards, FIRST SERIES!!, this is gonna be a long night for ohio

[dargonking999]

Texas is owning this game

[SA_Gunslinger]

i'm watching. vince looks great.

this new osu qb is looking decent though.

[SA_Gunslinger]

means more to osu, since they are the home team.

texas defense is keeping them in the game at this point. hats off to them.

[Rack Bauer]

IMO, it's clear Texas has the better talent then tOSU, but they are getting out coached badly.


Vince YOung is the most talented athlete in the country, but he's still making the same mistakes he made as a freshman, and no improvement has been made to his throwing motion. That's on the coaching. IMO, Young won't be a first round pick as a QB unless he stays for his senior year and makes vast improvement to his passing mechanics. The arm is there, but his delivery his horrible.

[Rack Bauer]

PLay of the game is when that Texas DB dropped that Int. That's a 14 point swing cuz tOSU ended up scoring a TD on the drive. You have to make those plays in big games like this.


But it's a Mack Brown coached team so it's expected.

[SA_Gunslinger]

PLay of the game is when that Texas DB dropped that Int. That's a 14 point swing cuz tOSU ended up scoring a TD on the drive. You have to make those plays in big games like this.


But it's a Mack Brown coached team so it's expected.



i agree about that play but not about mack.

maybe you liked 6 win seasons, but not me.

[SA_Gunslinger]

IMO, it's clear Texas has the better talent then tOSU, but they are getting out coached badly.


Vince YOung is the most talented athlete in the country, but he's still making the same mistakes he made as a freshman, and no improvement has been made to his throwing motion. That's on the coaching. IMO, Young won't be a first round pick as a QB unless he stays for his senior year and makes vast improvement to his passing mechanics. The arm is there, but his delivery his horrible.



it's not his mechanics that are the problem. it's his decision making.

that's on vince.

[Rack Bauer]

You watching him throw the football? His mechanics are the worst I've ever seen from a starting QB.

[SA_Gunslinger]

i agree he has bad mechanics....but helloooooo, he just put it on the 5!

[dbair1967]

i agree he has bad mechanics....but helloooooo, he just put it on the 5!

hello...it was luck

David

[Rack Bauer]

Yeah, and they only got 3 out of that "drive."


Whoever was calling plays in the redzone should be fired. That was horrendous playcalling.

[dbair1967]

You watching him throw the football? His mechanics are the worst I've ever seen from a starting QB.

and some people on here think this guy is a bigtime NFL QB prospect...

looks like either a CFL career at QB or a move to WR in the NFL to me

David

[SA_Gunslinger]

Yeah, and they only got 3 out of that "drive."


Whoever was calling plays in the redzone should be fired. That was horrendous playcalling.



i blame the penalty.

but again...his mechanics aren't to blame. i agree, they are poor, but he's big, so he gets away with it.

poor decision making, imo.

[Rack Bauer]

i blame the penalty.

but again...his mechanics aren't to blame. i agree, they are poor, but he's big, so he gets away with it.

poor decision making, imo.


How does him being "Big" let him get away with his poor mechanics? I said "Mechanics", not "Throwing motion". His throwing motion is only part of his mechanics. He may "Get away with it" now, but he won't in the NFL.

[SA_Gunslinger]

How does him being "Big" let him get away with his poor mechanics? I said "Mechanics", not "Throwing motion". His throwing motion is only part of his mechanics. He may "Get away with it" now, but he won't in the NFL.


honestly, i could care less if he turns into an nfl qb.

i want him to win for texas, and he has.

[dbair1967]

My God, UT is owning Ohio St, right now, i mean 3 carries for vince 52 yards, FIRST SERIES!!, this is gonna be a long night for ohio

should have waited before posted...

Vince Young is a terrible QB

David

[Rack Bauer]

honestly, i could care less if he turns into an nfl qb.

i want him to win for texas, and he has.


He's throwing 2 ints today that are his fault. Due in large part to his poor mechanics. If they lose today, and it appears they are going to lose, then you can blame it in large part to his mechanics, which is due to poor coaching.

[SA_Gunslinger]

He's throwing 2 ints today that are his fault. Due in large part to his poor mechanics. If they lose today, and it appears they are going to lose, then you can blame it in large part to his mechanics, which is due to poor coaching.


i respectfully disagree.

both ints were poor decisions. nothing at all to do w/ mechanics.

[SA_Gunslinger]

should have waited before posted...

Vince Young is a terrible QB

David


no he isn't.

what is he...18-2 as a starter?

[Rack Bauer]

Was that poor pass to the WIDE OPEN TE a "poor decision" too?

Nope, that was poor mechanics.

[dbair1967]

no he isn't.

what is he...18-2 as a starter?

you or I could be 18-2 with the talent they have there

Young has absolutely no NFL potential as a QB

David

[SA_Gunslinger]

Was that poor pass to the WIDE OPEN TE a "poor decision" too?

Nope, that was poor mechanics.


are you sure?

might have been a poor throwing motion.

:D

[Dallas]

LMAO

Im loving this. Ok Im sorry. I just think its funny the Horns think Vince Young has it all. You take away his running lanes and nothing happens. He cannot make the pass work.

He is a runner. Pure runner. Always has been.

[SA_Gunslinger]

you or I could be 18-2 with the talent they have there

Young has absolutely no NFL potential as a QB

David


the kid has talent. he won the freakin rose bowl by himself. i should know, i was there.

again...i could care less about his nfl potential.

if he gets wins for texas....awesome.

[Rack Bauer]

My GAWD the playcalling for Texas is atrocious (sp?).

[Rack Bauer]

Plus, another open TE and he misses him. COULD have been caught, but should of been a better pass.

[dbair1967]

LMAO

Im loving this. Ok Im sorry. I just think its funny the Horns think Vince Young has it all. You take away his running lanes and nothing happens. He cannot make the pass work.

He is a runner. Pure runner. Always has been.

he's a tall Vick

David

[SA_Gunslinger]

My GAWD the playcalling for Texas is atrocious (sp?).


now that i agree on. they should get back to running. they have 4 stud backs...use 'em!

[Rack Bauer]

Nice tackling by texas. Cuz I can see how that 150 lb WR would be hard to bring down for a LB or DT. :rolleyes:

[Dallas]

they have 4 stud backs...use 'em!
They do? Charles looks fairly good. The starter is out tho w/ a bad ankie.

[StanleySpadowski]

. he won the freakin rose bowl by himself.

And it seems like he's trying to lose this one by himself.

[Rack Bauer]

Yeah Charles is looking good, but he's not getting enough touches.

[SA_Gunslinger]

And it seems like he's trying to lose this one by himself.


well, hey, you take the good w/ the bad, and that is called being a fan.

i mean, down 6 on the road to a team that has never lost a night game at home. and we've had 3 to's.

could be a lot worse.

[Dallas]

BTW- Charles is on record telling its fans that he would make them forget Adrian Peterson. I heard that a few minutes ago. I fell out...


They said....well uhhhh If you talk the talk ...you do have to walk.

[Rack Bauer]

My GAWD the horrible play calling continues. Amazing.

[Rack Bauer]

tOSU rushes 3 and they get a hit on Young. Horrible blocking. If the coverage were even half decent it would of been an int.

[SA_Gunslinger]

two nice throws!

[Dallas]

two nice throws!

COUNTEM!!

4th 1/4 2 Nice Throws

[Rack Bauer]

you or I could be 18-2 with the talent they have there

Young has absolutely no NFL potential as a QB

David


I disagree. Young is big, fast, extremely mobile and has a strong arm. The "Potential" is there. But his mechanics need a ton of work.

[Dallas]

HAWK is a MONSTER!!!!

[Rack Bauer]

Young is getting no time to throw now. Hawk is a great LB.

[Rack Bauer]

Thanks to more bad playcalling on first down (double reverse option) the Horns end up with a 3rd and 23. I swear, their "normal" Plays are doing ok, no need to get fancy. They just need to execute better. If they can't execute their normal plays, how are they gonna execute the trick plays? Horrible coaching.

[Dallas]

Horrible coaching.

Blasphemy!!! You are gonna upset the Horn fans. Man I would lock my doors. :cool:

[SA_Gunslinger]

ok, that osu/michigan commercial is STILL hilarious.

haha

[SA_Gunslinger]

Thanks to more bad playcalling on first down (double reverse option) the Horns end up with a 3rd and 23. I swear, their "normal" Plays are doing ok, no need to get fancy. They just need to execute better. If they can't execute their normal plays, how are they gonna execute the trick plays? Horrible coaching.



for a nd fan, you have a lot to say about ut!

[Dallas]

for a nd fan, you have a lot to say about ut!

Who cares bro. Its football for crying out loud. We all love it. Come on.

[Rack Bauer]

for a nd fan, you have a lot to say about ut!



That's cuz I HATE, HATE, Ohio State.

[SA_Gunslinger]

Who cares bro. Its football for crying out loud. We all love it. Come on.


i just mean he sounds like a disgruntled ut fan, that's all.

[Dallas]

OSU is gonna come out rated #2 if they dont watch it. :lmao2:

[SA_Gunslinger]

That's cuz I HATE, HATE, Ohio State.



HAHAHAHA

and it all becomes clear!

[SA_Gunslinger]

OSU is gonna come out rated #2 if they dont watch it. :lmao2:


well, if ut loses it will be interesting to see where they end up. considering ou dropped 11 spots losing at home to a non ranked team, i would say ut should still be top ten.

we shall see.

[dbair1967]

I disagree. Young is big, fast, extremely mobile and has a strong arm. The "Potential" is there. But his mechanics need a ton of work.

mecahnics, ability to read a defense...ability to actually drop back to pass

he has no chance at QB in the NFL

David

[Rack Bauer]

mecahnics, ability to read a defense...ability to actually drop back to pass

he has no chance at QB in the NFL

David


If you were to say he has "very little" chance at QB in the NFL I might agree with you. But when you deal in absolutes you open yourself up to criticism.


Young DOES have a chance to play QB in the NFL. Not saying he will, but he DOES have a chance.

[SA_Gunslinger]

alright....texas scores a td and wins the game....comeeee on!!!!!!

[Rack Bauer]

alright....texas scores a td and wins the game....comeeee on!!!!!!


Not gonna happen with the type of playcalling they've had today.

[dbair1967]

If you were to say he has "very little" chance at QB in the NFL I might agree with you. But when you deal in absolutes you open yourself up to criticism.


Young DOES have a chance to play QB in the NFL. Not saying he will, but he DOES have a chance.

and I spent a dollar on the lotto last night, so technically I had a CHANCE to win it

David

[Dallas]

alright....texas scores a td and wins the game....comeeee on!!!!!!

VY throws an INT for a TD. commeeeeeeeee ooon!!! :bang2:

[Rack Bauer]

and I spent a dollar on the lotto last night, so technically I had a CHANCE to win it

David



Exactly.


I think Young has a bit better chance to play in the NFL as a QB then you had of winning the lottery though.


Again, big, fast, mobile, strong arm... teams don't pass on potential. If he could go to a team willing to be patient with him and work with him (like we are with Henson) then he could get drafted.


1st round pick? Highly doubtful unless he pulls a Mike Jones and goes in as a WR.

[DLK150]

Thanks to more bad playcalling on first down (double reverse option) the Horns end up with a 3rd and 23. I swear, their "normal" Plays are doing ok, no need to get fancy. They just need to execute better. If they can't execute their normal plays, how are they gonna execute the trick plays? Horrible coaching.

My wife and I are watching the game and I told her more than once I couldn't figure out WTH Texas was doing.

[SA_Gunslinger]

First Downnnnnnn!

[SA_Gunslinger]

How Bout That Throw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kmp77]

23 - 22...gonna be a crazy last 2 minutes....

[SA_Gunslinger]

this is an amazing football game.....reminds me of the rose bowl.

come onnnnnn d!!!!!

[Hostile]

HAWK is a MONSTER!!!!AJ Hawk has dominated this game. I can't believe anyone is even talking about someone else.

[SA_Gunslinger]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

Texas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

[Rack Bauer]

That move by Charles was f'in SICK.

[Rack Bauer]

AJ Hawk has to be the best LB in the country. Second best is probably Carpenter. They're both beasts.

[Kchunda]

Texas FIGHT!!!! ONE minute left!!!!

WHAT a f'ed up game! Ohio State could have won this. . .

[SA_Gunslinger]

Texas Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hostile]

AJ Hawk has to be the best LB in the country. Second best is probably Carpenter. They're both beasts.Have you ever seen a college pair of LBs like those 2? I'm trying to come up with an answer and I can't. These kids are great.

[Rack Bauer]

Melton is a MORON. He's 276 lbs and he wants to DIVE in the endzone? Why the f*** didn't he lower his shoulder and get the EASY score?


MORON!

[SA_Gunslinger]

Melton is a MORON. He's 276 lbs and he wants to DIVE in the endzone? Why the f*** didn't he lower his shoulder and get the EASY score?


MORON!



give texas some love!


safety!!!!!!


BALLGAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kchunda]

It's over - SAFETY TEXAS

[Hostile]

Turn out the lights....the party's over....they say that all good things must end.

Call it a night....the party's over...

Hell of a game.

[Rack Bauer]

Troy Smith is a moron. ALL day to throw. GET rid of the football, GENIUS.

And why wasn't there a review on that last play? Either way, Texas didn't deserve the TD since that 276 lb wussy didn't have the balls to run over a freakin' cornerback.

[Kchunda]

Give 'em HELL
Give 'em HELL
Make 'em eat *****

[SA_Gunslinger]

Go Horns Go!

[Cbz40]

Troy Smith is a moron. ALL day to throw. GET rid of the football, GENIUS.

And why wasn't there a review on that last play? Either way, Texas didn't deserve the TD since that 276 lb wussy didn't have the balls to run over a freakin' cornerback.

What he gets for trying to "Hot Dog It"



I'd make that kid run bleachers until he pukes!

[silverbear]

Ohio State - wins in a run away

Good call... ROTFLMAO...

[silverbear]

LMAO

Im loving this. Ok Im sorry. I just think its funny the Horns think Vince Young has it all. You take away his running lanes and nothing happens. He cannot make the pass work.

He is a runner. Pure runner. Always has been.

And yet, it was 272 yards passing that beat the Buckeyes, not his legendary running... how amazing, the he could take those lousy mechanics, and go up against such a "dominating" defense, and put up 272 yards...

[silverbear]

OSU is gonna come out rated #2 if they dont watch it. :lmao2:

Naw, they're more likely to fall out of the top ten...

If all I had to go by was your posts, Horns hater, I'd swear that Ohio State was up 30...

Of course, they would be, if they were only playin' Oklahoma... :D

[silverbear]

AJ Hawk has dominated this game. I can't believe anyone is even talking about someone else.

Well, I only got to see the first half, but his two turnovers in that half were both nothing more than pure gifts... he was kinda standing around, and all of sudden, there was the BALL...

Which is not to say the guy isn't real good, but he wasn't as dominating (at least in the first half) as you guys are makin' him out to be...

[silverbear]

Turn out the lights....the party's over....they say that all good things must end.

Call it a night....the party's over...

Hell of a game.

I actually busted out singin' that when the safety happened... right here in the lobby of the hotel, LOL...

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...

[jimmy40]

Well, I only got to see the first half, but his two turnovers in that half were both nothing more than pure gifts... he was kinda standing around, and all of sudden, there was the BALL...

Which is not to say the guy isn't real good, but he wasn't as dominating (at least in the first half) as you guys are makin' him out to be...The kid is real good but come on, Super Bowl MVP Larry Brown comes to mind. The kid got two turnovers while standing still.

[Rack Bauer]

Which is not to say the guy isn't real good, but he wasn't as dominating (at least in the first half) as you guys are makin' him out to be...


He really did dominate, SB. And that's coming from a Buckeye hater. Hawk is the real deal. He was the best player in the game tonight. Yes, even better then Vince Young.

Young wasn't helped by Texas' sorry playcalling though.

[Cbz40]

I would like to see Hawk wearing a star this time next year.

[Hostile]

Well, I only got to see the first half, but his two turnovers in that half were both nothing more than pure gifts... he was kinda standing around, and all of sudden, there was the BALL...

Which is not to say the guy isn't real good, but he wasn't as dominating (at least in the first half) as you guys are makin' him out to be...Yeah he was SB. He was in on a lot of tackles. He made big plays. He disrupted the Texas timing on several drives. I'm not a fan of either team. This is an unbiased opinion. Hawk was the most exciting player on the field tonight.

[Hostile]

I actually busted out singin' that when the safety happened... right here in the lobby of the hotel, LOL...

SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT...I miss Dandy on MNF.

[silverbear]

He really did dominate, SB. And that's coming from a Buckeye hater. Hawk is the real deal. He was the best player in the game tonight. Yes, even better then Vince Young.

Young wasn't helped by Texas' sorry playcalling though.

Oh, I thought Hawk played well, don't get me wrong... but unless he was a whole lot better in the second half "dominate" isn't a word I'd use... I mean, the Horns had over 200 yards of total offense in that first half (and it would have been worse but for those 2 gift-wrapped turnovers)...

I had the VCR running when I left the house for work, and you can bet I plan on checking out the second half when I get home in the morning... perhaps after that, I'll agree with your take on "domination"...

And yeah, I know you were actually rooting for the Horns tonight, so I took your comments in the spirit in which they were offered...

[silverbear]

Yeah he was SB. He was in on a lot of tackles. He made big plays. He disrupted the Texas timing on several drives. I'm not a fan of either team. This is an unbiased opinion. Hawk was the most exciting player on the field tonight.

Good player, no doubt... and like I said, I didn't get to see any of the second half except the last few minutes (I was on my way to work)... I'll look forward to seeing his impact on the game in the second half...

And I'd still take Ahmad Brooks ahead of him in the draft... :D

[silverbear]

I miss Dandy on MNF.

Meredith baiting Cosell was as good as MNF ever got... the good ol' country boy knockin' the pompous pseudointellectual windbag down a peg or two was always good for a laugh...

[Rack Bauer]

Oh, I thought Hawk played well, don't get me wrong... but unless he was a whole lot better in the second half "dominate" isn't a word I'd use... I mean, the Horns had over 200 yards of total offense in that first half (and it would have been worse but for those 2 gift-wrapped turnovers)...


He's 1 man out of 11. Texas' team stats have very little to do with what Hawk did. He wasn't play DL, LB, CB, and Safety out there. ;)


The kid is the best LB in college. Second best may just be that other OSU LB, Carpenter. You could tell their job was to bottle up Young and not let him run. Other then the first drive they did just that. What I like about them two LBs is that not only are they fast and quick, but they're physical too.


I'd take Hawk in a cowboys uniform. Wouldn't mind that at all. He could take Dat's place when he's ready to retire. Hell, Dat's already 30 (or almost 30) anyway.

[Dallas]

Naw, they're more likely to fall out of the top ten...

If all I had to go by was your posts, Horns hater, I'd swear that Ohio State was up 30...

Of course, they would be, if they were only playin' Oklahoma... :D

I say it time and time again. You better beat OU this year Bear. You better beat us. :D

[kev8822]

Just got back from the game, and could not be anymore disgusted with OSU. Total and complete embarassement. To lose to Texas, at night, What a joke. Tressell should be suicidal right now. He got outcoached by Mack Brown in a big game. Patchetic. I wish my wife did go into labor so I wouldn't be forced to watch that horrendous offensive performanece and play calling. Nice hands by Ryan Hamby. He could've put the game away. He choked tghe game away, like FSU does to Miami just about every year.

At least the Texas fans I tailgated with were cool.

[Rack Bauer]

like FSU does to Miami just about every year


Ummm... FSU beat Miami last weekend.

[Tobal]

I thought Texas got out coached myself, they just were able to overcome the terrible offensive play calling.

[Rack Bauer]

I thought Texas got out coached myself, they just were able to overcome the terrible offensive play calling.


I agree. But tOSU's playcalling in the redzone was terrible too.

[silverbear]

I say it time and time again. You better beat OU this year Bear. You better beat us. :D

I would, but I'm pretty sure I've used up all my eligibility... :D

[SA_Gunslinger]

At least the Texas fans I tailgated with were cool.



right on...we're a fun bunch!

don't be so hard on your team though....losing to the number 2 team by 3 isn't exactly 'embarrassing'.

texas is a great team, even if ou fans can't admit it.

[dbair1967]

AJ Hawk has dominated this game. I can't believe anyone is even talking about someone else.

I agree...was definitely the best player on the field and the most NFL ready player on the field as well...

if we're sticking with the 3-4, wouldnt mind seeing him here next yr

David

[Tio]

I wouldn't mind him here period. He could take dats place.

[Cbz40]

I would take Hawk on my team...no brainer.

[jman]

I say it time and time again. You better beat OU this year Bear. You better beat us. :D

That's starting to look like a better deal every day.

TCU kicks OU's Butt, then TCU goes out and stinks it up against SMU...and looses 21-10...LOL

What is the world coming to????...LOL

[kev8822]

Ummm... FSU beat Miami last weekend.


That is why I said just about every year.

[kev8822]

right on...we're a fun bunch!

don't be so hard on your team though....losing to the number 2 team by 3 isn't exactly 'embarrassing'.

texas is a great team, even if ou fans can't admit it.



Umm no I should be hard on them. Losing to Texas is a joke.

[NorthTexan95]

A few thoughts ... OSU is better coached overall but the new Texas D-Coordinator has the Texas defense playing at a very high level ... Hawke is a monster who was all over the place ... Vince Young might not make it in the NFL (lots of Heisman winners didn't make it in the NFL) but no one can deny he is a GREAT college quarterback, running and/or throwing ... the turnovers hurt Texas the but inability to contain the kickoff returns was as big of a problem.

Before the game while everyone was talking about Vince Young vs the OSU defense, I felt the key matchup was OSU offense vs Texas defense. I didn't think OSU would be able to consistently move the ball. I was right. They could only move the ball maybe 20-30 yards on a drive. The problem was that between the turnovers or the long kickoff returns they were able to turn all those short drives into field goals. If Texas could have covered the kickoffs Texas would've won but maybe 13 or more.

I think both Texas and OSU are extremely talented teams the big difference being Vince Young ability to make plays vs the OSU quarterbacks who couldn't consistently move their team. OSU nearly overcame this by being a more solid, better coached team.

This could very well be OSU's only loss of the season if one of their quarterbacks can win the job outright. Texas could go undefeated but I hate watching them make so many mistakes. Hiring the new D-Coordinator has given me much more confidence in their defense. Now it's time to hire a new special teams coach.

[Cbz40]

I hope the new ST coach is on duty as soon as Monday

[SA_Gunslinger]

Umm no I should be hard on them. Losing to Texas is a joke.


haha...ok, whatever you say, boss.