Not Quite Official 'Redskins Suck Thread'

[Avery]

By the looks of extremeskins.com, Washington apparently has a better offense than us not just in one game but overall. This is not a joke, read some of the delusional masterpieces and you'll see homerism jump to levels unseen. You'll also notice that officials are seemingly out to get the team and that they must be blamed for everything.

If you wish to go deeper into the rabbit hole, note the countless posts stating that if Gates were to play and San Diego didn't commit stupid penalties then they would have won while the Skins would have blown the Bears away had penaties been called and this guy caught the ball and yadda, yadda, yadda.

It is also important to note that, theoritically, pigeons could fly out of my butt and sing Christmas carols to disadvantaged youth but I can't seem to find any feathers in my boxers.

Anywho, to confine the trash talking to one thread and not have new posts springing up, it would probably be ideal to keep it in one place. If you don't want to click on the link, you don't have to. That way, the site can still function as it normally does while addressing the needs of why the Skins suck and just why their fans seem to not be able to understand that we go through this every year and every year we win.

Godspeed gentlemen.

[dallascowboysfan31]

By the looks of extremeskins.com, Washington apparently has a better offense than us not just in one game but overall. This is not a joke, read some of the delusional masterpieces and you'll see homerism jump to levels unseen. You'll also notice that officials are seemingly out to get the team and that they must be blamed for everything.

If you wish to go deeper into the rabbit hole, note the countless posts stating that if Gates were to play and San Diego didn't commit stupid penalties then they would have won while the Skins would have blown the Bears away had penaties been called and this guy caught the ball and yadda, yadda, yadda.

It is also important to note that, theoritically, pigeons could fly out of my butt and sing Christmas carols to disadvantaged youth but I can't seem to find any feathers in my boxers.

Anywho, to confine the trash talking to one thread and not have new posts springing up, it would probably be ideal to keep it in one place. If you don't want to click on the link, you don't have to. That way, the site can still function as it normally does while addressing the needs of why the Skins suck and just why their fans seem to not be able to understand that we go through this every year and every year we win.

Godspeed gentlemen.



hilarious!!!

[TruBlueCowboy]

:suxskins: :suxskins: :suxskins: :suxskins:

Okay, filled my Skin hatin' quota for the day!

[SultanOfSix]

Yes, I barely ever go over there, but I did, and it was interesting to read some of the stuff posted there.

For the life of me, I don't see how a 9-7 defeat of last year's non-playoff Bears team lead by an rookie QB is a "dominating" performance. I also don't see how a 28-24 victory over a AFC West champion SD team in their house is a less impressive victory, and was one determined by penalties.

Penalties are never an excuse when they are legitimate, and both of the penalties that kept drives alive (Jammer's holding and Bledsoe's getting smacked in the head), were completely legitimate. The team still had to capitalize and it's not like they were in positions to score when they happened. They had to drive down the field and score.

If I were a Redskin's fan, just looking at it from an objective perspective, I would be worried. The Cowboys are a team who have been built to beat the Eagles, and they competed and defeated a top AFC (which is the better conference of the two) team in their house learning a new defensive scheme with multiple rookies getting playing time. The Cowboys have defeated their team 13 straight times (I think). That alone is a confidence booster, and when they had the best chance to win last year, they still lost. Even if they are homers, I don't understand how some of them can be so biased.

[Jarv]

By the looks of extremeskins.com, Washington apparently has a better offense than us not just in one game but overall. This is not a joke, read some of the delusional masterpieces and you'll see homerism jump to levels unseen. You'll also notice that officials are seemingly out to get the team and that they must be blamed for everything.

If you wish to go deeper into the rabbit hole, note the countless posts stating that if Gates were to play and San Diego didn't commit stupid penalties then they would have won while the Skins would have blown the Bears away had penaties been called and this guy caught the ball and yadda, yadda, yadda.

It is also important to note that, theoritically, pigeons could fly out of my butt and sing Christmas carols to disadvantaged youth but I can't seem to find any feathers in my boxers.

Anywho, to confine the trash talking to one thread and not have new posts springing up, it would probably be ideal to keep it in one place. If you don't want to click on the link, you don't have to. That way, the site can still function as it normally does while addressing the needs of why the Skins suck and just why their fans seem to not be able to understand that we go through this every year and every year we win.

Godspeed gentlemen.

I was switching over to the Skins - Bears games during commercials on DirectTV. I saw 2 plays that seemed like mistakes.

Ramsey got clothslines in a sack and was knocked out of the game. The defenders arm was almost around his neck/facemask area. This could have been a roughing call, I know a blow to the head is one and this was close.

The other was a Brunell deep pass that was intercepted by the Bears and returned to around the Skins 10-20 yard line. The refs called pass interference so it was a huge turnaround in the Skins favor where they had the call on Chicago's 20 yard line. I didn't see the pass interfearence on the call, it was close, but thats how it was called.

So, in my limitted veiwing of the game, I saw 2 calls...1 went their way, the other didn't go their way. The one that did go their way was a 70-80 yard difference and they gained possesion of the ball...Seemed like the advantage went to the Skins...

I didn't see all of the game so I cannot comment on the rest.

I know they were real mad after our 1 game with them last year. I read over their how that game was handed to them by the refs. Maybe they just have a lingering feeling still ?

justified ? Who knows...But I know how they feel. Kevin "Pup" Smith used to get calls all of the time against him that I felt not all were justified. Once you get a rep, the refs seem to watch you more closely...ala Mario Edwards too.

[Charles]

Of course we have to get a take about the up coming came from our favorite Redskins homer Art..................(yes folks the one only Art..........) :lmao:

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=113391



Again, which offense will be ranked ahead of the other this week?

Which defense will be ranked ahead of the other this week?

Which team's special teams gave up several big negative plays?

Dallas won a nice game against a team that was good last year. But, WE DOMINATED a team that was bad last year, and kept them close. If we play the EXACT same way next week against Dallas and have no turnovers, we'll win. If not, we won't.
But Vegas quickly made the Cowboys a 6 point favorite :lmao2:


In Reply to Art


I have a great deal of respect for you Art, though your point is kind of misleading. You guys played the worst team in football. You should have won that game by three touchdowns. They started their second string running back and had a 2nd day draft pick behind center going into FedEx and you still had a tough time pulling it out.

We, on the other hand, went into San Diego, played against the best running back in the league and a Pro-Bowl quarterback and won the game. Despite all the times we shot ourselves in the foot. And that's with a young defense in a new scheme on the first day of the season.

You'll be facing a real offense next week...and what you do then will determine how your season will go. I know you guys have a strong defense and a strong running game...but Parcells will be prepared. He always is.

In reply to Mikal


Mikal,

We should have beaten the Bears by three touchdowns. No doubt about it. We didn't because of our mistakes and that's what we are as a team. Your offense is better, though I fear your defense less, overall. In any case, you won a tough game where the other team made more mistakes and you guys got the benefit of a couple of close calls that helped continue scoring drives for you.

Obviously, if we turn the ball over three times again, we're done against you. If we don't, I think these matchups favor us in ways they haven't recently. You say you'll jam our small receivers. You will. I say we will use our quickness to beat you quickly off the line and create big plays. We will. How that balance plays out will determine what happens if the game is relatively clean otherwise.

I happen to like Williams against Bledsoe in a matchup. I have no doubt Parcells will be prepared. He's the type of coach who gives Gibbs fits. I just don't think if we limit turnovers that the game will go against us. And if we don't, it will.


That was great. Any team that has turn-overs limits their chance to win duh :laugh2:

I hope our defense has something to do with their mistakes /sarcasm off ;)

[Avery]

The problem is not the team itself; it's the delusional fans who will skew ANY argument by picking and choosing what they wish to harp on.

Example: the Skins have a better offense because they had more yards. Fine. But what if we to say that we have a better offense because we averaged more per play? Will, not it's not admissible because it doesn't matter.

...

Now you see how it works. It's constant backtracking and ignoring facts. It's about blaming everyone but the players for their problems. It's about saying that Patrick Crayton wouldn't even had made their roster (actual post).

And I really do feel that most Redskins fans are much saner. The problem is that a few posters over there rule with an iron clad fist and can't be reasoned with. They're the same fans that, if I made a bulletproof argument based on factual information, will argue that I'm an idiot because I ended my last sentence with a preposition which immediately means I'm a 'pwned retard'.

Whatever, doesn't matter. We've been through this before and we'll go through it again.

[Smith22]

:skins: :skins: :skins: :skins:

:dissskin: :dissskin: :dissskin: :dissskin: :dissskin:

[Woods]

:skins: :skins: :skins: :skins:

:dissskin: :dissskin: :dissskin: :dissskin: :dissskin:


Post of the day! :laugh2:

[cwbyfan72]

By the looks of extremeskins.com, Washington apparently has a better offense than us not just in one game but overall. This is not a joke, read some of the delusional masterpieces and you'll see homerism jump to levels unseen. You'll also notice that officials are seemingly out to get the team and that they must be blamed for everything.

If you wish to go deeper into the rabbit hole, note the countless posts stating that if Gates were to play and San Diego didn't commit stupid penalties then they would have won while the Skins would have blown the Bears away had penaties been called and this guy caught the ball and yadda, yadda, yadda.

It is also important to note that, theoritically, pigeons could fly out of my butt and sing Christmas carols to disadvantaged youth but I can't seem to find any feathers in my boxers.

Anywho, to confine the trash talking to one thread and not have new posts springing up, it would probably be ideal to keep it in one place. If you don't want to click on the link, you don't have to. That way, the site can still function as it normally does while addressing the needs of why the Skins suck and just why their fans seem to not be able to understand that we go through this every year and every year we win.

Godspeed gentlemen.
freakin hilarious.......I read those posts as well. Some one actually asked how LT was better than Portis. How is candy better than turds??????? I dont get the logic over there.

[dguinta1]

Bah! The Deadskins.

[BrAinPaiNt]

The problem is not the team itself; it's the delusional fans who will skew ANY argument by picking and choosing what they wish to harp on.

Example: the Skins have a better offense because they had more yards. Fine. But what if we to say that we have a better offense because we averaged more per play? Will, not it's not admissible because it doesn't matter.

...

Now you see how it works. It's constant backtracking and ignoring facts. It's about blaming everyone but the players for their problems. It's about saying that Patrick Crayton wouldn't even had made their roster (actual post).

And I really do feel that most Redskins fans are much saner. The problem is that a few posters over there rule with an iron clad fist and can't be reasoned with. They're the same fans that, if I made a bulletproof argument based on factual information, will argue that I'm an idiot because I ended my last sentence with a preposition which immediately means I'm a 'pwned retard'.

Whatever, doesn't matter. We've been through this before and we'll go through it again.


Agreed.

They had 22 more total yards on Offense lol.

They are ranked higher at NFL.Com and that seems to be why.

However they have a 4.8 yards per play average while we had a 4.9

They got those 22 more yards of total offense because they had 7 more plays on offense.

On third downs they had a 37.5% we had 63.6%

They had 5 (Offensive) penalties for 45 yards....we had 8 for 46 yards.

They scored a total of.... 9 points all FGs.

We scored a total of....28 with 4 TDs.

Oops sorry here is another area they beat us in...

Time of Pos...They had 34:15 and we had 31:09.


So we have the higher scoring offense this first week.

We have the higher Passing offense this first week.

We have the higher Rec offense this first week.

They have the higher Rushing total this first week.

We had the higher Punting average this first week.

We had the higher Kick-Off average this first week.

They had the higher Kick/Punt return average this first week (we are directly below them in this area.

They have the higher FG totals for this first week...but that does not bother me if we are scoring TDs instead of FGs.

So they held on to the ball around 4 minutes more then we did and gained around 20 more yards then us on more plays.

[jterrell]

OMG!!

The funniest thing is watching the Skins fans go absolutely bananas after they once again fail to live up to the unrealistic expectation of fans who are clearly not thinking at all much less trying to be logical or make sense.

The Boys, Chargers, Skins and Bears ALL made mistakes yesterday. That tends to happen on week 1 of the season. The difference is pretty simple. 2 of those teams could make mistakes and still perform at a playoff level and 2 others couldn't.

[TruBlueCowboy]

The Cowboy and Giants both shocked their critics and came out strong. I expect the Eagle will put up a good show tonight too. Meanwhile, the Skins struggled to barely beat a team with an awful record last year, starting a QB in his first-ever NFL game, and the list goes on.....

http://gscentral.net/weak.jpg

"Washington, you are the weak link. Goodbye!"

[kmd24]

It is a delight that nothing that is said on ES (or here for that matter) makes an iota of difference in the outcome of the game. While Art may be the master of spin, he has still had to eat his heart out after all but one Dallas-Washington game for the last, what, seven(?) seasons.

[Avery]

So, let me get this straight...

Washington squeaked out a blistering 9-7 victory over the Bears where the game wasn't decided until a late 4th quarter fumble and it's dominating?

I invite Art to read the game thread on ES for that game and then somehow try and tell me that they dominated it.

I'm dizzy...

[sacase]

That is exactly what I was wondering. Art acts like they shut down the colts offense. Shutting down the bears offense is like saying that a hooker is easy. They don't realize it but we are going to create a lot of mismatches in the passing game. WE have 5 threats in the passing game no including JJ and they have only two people who can cover.

The ES homers say they beat themselves, I think the bears are the ones who beat themselves.

[Henry]

Interesting. You pick and choose a few select posts from a thread titled "Dallas is gonna spank us!" to celebrate the notion that we are a bunch of homers?

Gimme a break.

[dstew60105]

:suxskins: :suxskins: :suxskins: :suxskins:

Okay, filled my Skin hatin' quota for the day!


What the Foreskins fail to realize is that they barely beat a team starting a 4th round pick at QB. Chicago could have easily beat them. The are a 6 win team at best. Plain and simple, they are just not that good.

[Charles]

Interesting. You pick and choose a few select posts from a thread titled "Dallas is gonna spank us!" to celebrate the notion that we are a bunch of homers?

Gimme a break.
Not "We"........... just Art don't get it twisted ;)

[jcblanco22]

It is a delight that nothing that is said on ES (or here for that matter) makes an iota of difference in the outcome of the game. While Art may be the master of spin, he has still had to eat his heart out after all but one Dallas-Washington game for the last, what, seven(?) seasons.

And it took the ultimate lame duck game for that victory to transpire. Remember, Campo was coaching the final game of his Cowboys HC career and the final game of a 5-11 season; Parcells and Jones had met on the tarmac at the airport in Jersey the day before and Campo and the players knew it too. Nice conditions to get that one win in, and even then, Bryant almost singlehandedly brought them back in that one.

[jcblanco22]

Interesting. You pick and choose a few select posts from a thread titled "Dallas is gonna spank us!" to celebrate the notion that we are a bunch of homers?

Gimme a break.

Henry, let's be honest for a second. I admire you because you've always come on here and been classy about stuff, and I think reasonable as well. But let's be frank here, you don't see the slightest bit of spin doctoring from some of your colleagues on ES, most of all Art? One thing in particular I find funny about his analysis of the victory over the Chargers yesterday is how he keeps referring to "questionable calls in Dallas's favor". I don't understand, you mean Castillo didn't really hit Bledsoe in the head, McCardell really didn't grab a handful of Newman's jersey, etc. etc.? Was I just seeing things?

Also, funny how he keeps emphasizing that the Redskins beat themselves and if not for that, the "total domination" would have been even more reflected in the final score. OK. In that case, I'll have to say that if not for Bledsoe and Johnson mishandling the snap on the first drive, as well as Keith Davis mentally blowing two assignments, we have a 21 point turnaround in our favor and win going away, 35-10. After all, the fumbled snap was an "unforced turnover", one of his favorite phrases, and the other 2 mental errors did not involve McCardell physically beating anyone one-on-one. They were just mistakes where we "shot ourselves in the foot" (another one of his favorite phrases).

Of course, it would be preposterous for me to actually believe what I just said, but I'm just trying to illustrate a point here.

[mrecktid]

So, let me get this straight...

Washington squeaked out a blistering 9-7 victory over the Bears where the game wasn't decided until a late 4th quarter fumble and it's dominating?

I invite Art to read the game thread on ES for that game and then somehow try and tell me that they dominated it.

I'm dizzy...

As much as I want to celebrate how our victory was a bigger victory than the Skins over the bears, we barely squeaked out a victory too. San Diego had 4 chances to put it in the end zone from 7 yards out, luckily for us, Gates was out and we finished strong. I feel both our offenses were strong, but our defenses broke more instead of bending like they should. We didn't dominate the Chargers, and the by the looks of the score, the Redskins didn't dominate the Bears either.

[Hoods]

Henry, let's be honest for a second. I admire you because you've always come on here and been classy about stuff, and I think reasonable as well. But let's be frank here, you don't see the slightest bit of spin doctoring from some of your colleagues on ES, most of all Art? One thing in particular I find funny about his analysis of the victory over the Chargers yesterday is how he keeps referring to "questionable calls in Dallas's favor". I don't understand, you mean Castillo didn't really hit Bledsoe in the head, McCardell really didn't grab a handful of Newman's jersey, etc. etc.? Was I just seeing things?

Also, funny how he keeps emphasizing that the Redskins beat themselves and if not for that, the "total domination" would have been even more reflected in the final score. OK. In that case, I'll have to say that if not for Bledsoe and Johnson mishandling the snap on the first drive, as well as Keith Davis mentally blowing two assignments, we have a 21 point turnaround in our favor and win going away, 35-17. After all, the fumbled snap was an "unforced turnover", one of his favorite phrases, and the other 2 mental errors did not involve McCardell physically beating anyone one-on-one. They were just mistakes where we "shot ourselves in the foot" (another one of his favorite phrases).

Of course, it would be preposterous for me to actually believe what I just said, but I'm just trying to illustrate a point here.

DUDE! Forward this post to Art!

[SweCowboy]

Interesting. You pick and choose a few select posts from a thread titled "Dallas is gonna spank us!" to celebrate the notion that we are a bunch of homers?

Gimme a break.

Yes but the posters are hardly rookies and should know better. And there is no one other than cowboys fans who try to argue against them. If some one should write things like this here about the cowboys people would quickly correct their stupidity.

[jcblanco22]

DUDE! Forward this post to Art!

LOL, I actually have an account at ES and am thinking of doing that. There is something I have to correct though, our final would've been 35-10 and not 35-17 if I apply that logic, I realized that after I posted it!

[DallasDomination]

I'm not ready to say we're gonna pound the skins after game 1.Things can change very easy and I'll guarante the Skins will be no push overs.

They will pressure Bledsoe constantly, and will give us a hard time........However IMO we will come out with a "W" at the end of the day.

[Maikeru-sama]

The Redskins defense will keep them in alot of games. Remember, they went into the last game of the season needing to hold their opponent to less than 7 points or so to edge the Steelers in the number 1 defensive ranking.

When coaching legends and teams that hate each other get together, I could never assume anything...

- Mike G.

[Henry]

Henry, let's be honest for a second. I admire you because you've always come on here and been classy about stuff, and I think reasonable as well. But let's be frank here, you don't see the slightest bit of spin doctoring from some of your colleagues on ES, most of all Art? One thing in particular I find funny about his analysis of the victory over the Chargers yesterday is how he keeps referring to "questionable calls in Dallas's favor". I don't understand, you mean Castillo didn't really hit Bledsoe in the head, McCardell really didn't grab a handful of Newman's jersey, etc. etc.? Was I just seeing things?

Also, funny how he keeps emphasizing that the Redskins beat themselves and if not for that, the "total domination" would have been even more reflected in the final score. OK. In that case, I'll have to say that if not for Bledsoe and Johnson mishandling the snap on the first drive, as well as Keith Davis mentally blowing two assignments, we have a 21 point turnaround in our favor and win going away, 35-10. After all, the fumbled snap was an "unforced turnover", one of his favorite phrases, and the other 2 mental errors did not involve McCardell physically beating anyone one-on-one. They were just mistakes where we "shot ourselves in the foot" (another one of his favorite phrases).

Of course, it would be preposterous for me to actually believe what I just said, but I'm just trying to illustrate a point here.

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

[AbeBeta]

Wow, I thought the Skins won yesterday. Guess not. Don't take these guys too lightly -- they have an excellent RB who can dominate games and a very good D.

That said, if we play like we did yesterday and the Skins play like they did yesterday we will crush them.

[Maikeru-sama]

Who the hell is art?

[LeonDixson]

Who the hell is art?

He's a supercilious, pseudointellectual mod over at ExtremeSkins. The guy can write well but his logic is severely warped when it comes to the Skins. He suffers from what I call a logical astigmatism.

Oh, and he will ban you at the drop of hat. Expecially if you get the better of him in an argument.

[silverbear]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

I don't blame you, I'd hate to be assigned the task of defending that megalomaniacal little twit...

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

Hey, if Art gets off on being held up to ridicule because he spews stoopid, Cowboys-hating crap all the time, who are we to deny him his pleasure??

You must be so proud to have him as one of your authority figures... LOL...

[LeonDixson]

I'm not ready to say we're gonna pound the skins after game 1.Things can change very easy and I'll guarante the Skins will be no push overs.

They will pressure Bledsoe constantly, and will give us a hard time........However IMO we will come out with a "W" at the end of the day.

I agree with you DallasDomination. This rivalry has had a history of the down and out team jumping up and biting the better team on the . It could happen next Monday just as easily as it has in the past.

We still have a a bunch of rookies in key positions, especially on defense in a new system. We could look like crap next week. It's entirely possible. I wouldn't bet my life savings either way.

If we play well, we should win. That's what I'm hoping for.

[dougonthebench]

By the looks of extremeskins.com, Washington apparently has a better offense than us not just in one game but overall. This is not a joke, read some of the delusional masterpieces and you'll see homerism jump to levels unseen. You'll also notice that officials are seemingly out to get the team and that they must be blamed for everything.

If you wish to go deeper into the rabbit hole, note the countless posts stating that if Gates were to play and San Diego didn't commit stupid penalties then they would have won while the Skins would have blown the Bears away had penaties been called and this guy caught the ball and yadda, yadda, yadda.

It is also important to note that, theoritically, pigeons could fly out of my butt and sing Christmas carols to disadvantaged youth but I can't seem to find any feathers in my boxers.

Anywho, to confine the trash talking to one thread and not have new posts springing up, it would probably be ideal to keep it in one place. If you don't want to click on the link, you don't have to. That way, the site can still function as it normally does while addressing the needs of why the Skins suck and just why their fans seem to not be able to understand that we go through this every year and every year we win.

Godspeed gentlemen.


:starspin :bow: :skins: :suxskins: :bravo: I think you said it all!!!

[Henry]

I don't blame you, I'd hate to be assigned the task of defending that megalomaniacal little twit...

Yes, I've found megalomaniacal twits reside on many a messageboard. And I don't enjoy having to deal with any of them.

I think that's all I've got to say on this subject. Go ahead and attack the Skins. Attack their fans. Attack their messageboards. And feel good about your own classy attitude.

Later.

[BigDFan5]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.



So your saying ART is an attention whore that doesn't truly believe his own posts?

[jcblanco22]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

Hey, that's cool, and I understand that. And like I said earlier Henry, I'm familiar with your posts both here and of course on your own board, and I've always thought that you came across logical and fair. There's always room for discussion with any other team's fan when it's done in that manner, and I hope you've always been treated well here. Same goes for Bufford, whom I've seen on here from time to time as well.

Well anyhow, seeing as how Art does like to rile up the 'Boys fans a bit, I posted this little ditty in that ES thread a while ago to have some fun with him as well :) :

I think we have to give Art his due here. As a matter of fact, it's more than just giving him his due. I think that his logic has to be applied universally across the NFL landscape as it relates to yesterday's games. I say we begin with the Cowboys-Chargers game. The terms in quotes are particularly important to note, as they are semantic demonstrations of how the theory is being applied.

On the first Cowboys possession, Bledsoe and Al Johnson mishandle a snap. The Cowboys are on the move at the time and already in Chargers territory. The ball is turned over to the Chargers. "Unforced turnover".

Keenan McCardell runs free on two receptions over the middle of the field that directly result in 2 touchdowns for the Chargers. 14 points for the Chargers resulting from mental errors by the Dallas secondary, not as a result of McCardell actually beating any defender one-on-one. Two missed assignments by Cowboys FS Keith Davis equals Dallas "shooting themselves in the foot" and "beating themselves".

Overall, a 17-21 point swing in Dallas's favor. Erase these mistakes and the final score is Dallas 31 or 35 to San Diego's 10. Dallas "dominates" this game and wins going away.

Should be a heck of a game next Monday night between two "dominating" squads!!

Now remember:

The mere fact that applying the theory in every instance in which it could reasonably be applied (as opposed to just employing it when it can be deftly incorporated as a means to buttress one's own arguments) would not serve one's position well does not mean that one has creative license to refrain from doing so.

[silverbear]

Yes, I've found megalomaniacal twits reside on many a messageboard. And I don't enjoy having to deal with any of them.

Aw shucks, didn't your little defense of Art work out the way you'd hoped it would??

Bottom line, Art tried baiting Cowboys fans over here once before, and wound up slinking away with his tail between his legs... he's learned that he's better off staying over on his own board, where he has the power you guys gave him (God only knows why) to ban anybody who makes him look foolish... as a result, not many people try him over there...

But if he was REALLY as amused by baiting Cowboys fans as you've suggested here, I have to think he'd be over here, right up in our collective faces... after all, this IS the guy who bragged about throwing a godless Cowboys fan out of FedEx, isn't it??

Clearly, Art only gets mouthy when he's pretty sure he's got all the help he needs... he can't hang, one on one, which makes him a card-carrying punk...

I think that's all I've got to say on this subject. Go ahead and attack the Skins. Attack their fans. Attack their messageboards. And feel good about your own classy attitude.

Uhhhh, the only thing Skins-related that I've attacked is Art... now, he DOES reflect badly on extremeskins, and he is in fact the only reason I have never bothered to post over there... there's no point, he'd just try to argue with me, I'd make him look like the fool he is, then I'd be banned... but my interaction with others from your board (in here) has been considerably less hostile... I have no issues with your board, and unlike some others in here am not overly offended when some of your regulars get ultra-homeristic; the same thing happens in here, in fact I suspect it happens on football message boards everywhere, no matter the team...

Why you feel the need to defend that piece of crap is beyond me... and why you guys keep him on as a moderator, when he has so clearly abused those powers repeatedly, is equally mystifying...

As for my "classy attitude", I make no apologies for despising ol' Art, who is the very definition of classless... but at least I have "class" enough not to drag my opinions over to YOUR board... nope, in order for you to be offended by my lack of class, you have to come lookin' for me...

If you don't like Cowboys fans disliking Redskins fans, I'd suggest that this is not the place for you... you're bound to find yourself annoyed by our opinions in here...

And any talk about "class" from a moderator of a board that tolerates, even applauds, the naked fascism that is Art is really pretty hypocritical... how classy is it to order a poster on a message board to post EXACTLY what you want him to, or face banning?? And how classy is it to BRAG about acting like a thug (assuming the FedEx incident actually happened, which I sincerely doubt)??

If that's your definition of "class", I want no part of it... happily, I consider you and Om to be considerably more classy, and therefore more interesting to talk to...

[jcblanco22]

Aw shucks, didn't your little defense of Art work out the way you'd hoped it would??

Bottom line, Art tried baiting Cowboys fans over here once before, and wound up slinking away with his tail between his legs... he's learned that he's better off staying over on his own board, where he has the power you guys gave him (God only knows why) to ban anybody who makes him look foolish... as a result, not many people try him over there...

But if he was REALLY as amused by baiting Cowboys fans as you've suggested here, I have to think he'd be over here, right up in our collective faces... after all, this IS the guy who bragged about throwing a godless Cowboys fan out of FedEx, isn't it??

Clearly, Art only gets mouthy when he's pretty sure he's got all the help he needs... he can't hang, one on one, which makes him a card-carrying punk...



Uhhhh, the only thing Skins-related that I've attacked is Art... now, he DOES reflect badly on extremeskins, and he is in fact the only reason I have never bothered to post over there... there's no point, he'd just try to argue with me, I'd make him look like the fool he is, then I'd be banned... but my interaction with others from your board (in here) has been considerably less hostile... I have no issues with your board, and unlike some others in here am not overly offended when some of your regulars get ultra-homeristic; the same thing happens in here, in fact I suspect it happens on football message boards everywhere, no matter the team...

Why you feel the need to defend that piece of crap is beyond me... and why you guys keep him on as a moderator, when he has so clearly abused those powers repeatedly, is equally mystifying...

As for my "classy attitude", I make no apologies for despising ol' Art, who is the very definition of classless... but at least I have "class" enough not to drag my opinions over to YOUR board... nope, in order for you to be offended by my lack of class, you have to come lookin' for me...

If you don't like Cowboys fans disliking Redskins fans, I'd suggest that this is not the place for you... you're bound to find yourself annoyed by our opinions in here...

And any talk about "class" from a moderator of a board that tolerates, even applauds, the naked fascism that is Art is really pretty hypocritical... how classy is it to order a poster on a message board to post EXACTLY what you want him to, or face banning?? And how classy is it to BRAG about acting like a thug (assuming the FedEx incident actually happened, which I sincerely doubt)??

If that's your definition of "class", I want no part of it... happily, I consider you and Om to be considerably more classy, and therefore more interesting to talk to...

Silverbear, what was the "FeEx incident" ? I'm curious...

[The30YardSlant]

Interesting. You pick and choose a few select posts from a thread titled "Dallas is gonna spank us!" to celebrate the notion that we are a bunch of homers?

Gimme a break.

Henry......Henry....oh yes, here we go:


Running game is better? Julius Jones has been replaced? Or is he still banging out 3.5 yards a carry like last year?

Really the big difference for you is Bledsoe. He had a great day yesterday. Again, I doubt that translates into 3 more TDs for you vs. last year, especially considering OUR OL is better (note Portis' average yesterday) as well.

Bledsoe may beat the blitz better than our guy (whoever he may be) but we blitz better than you do.


If you knew anything about football outside of the racial slurs you would know that JJ averaged over 4 YPC last season, your O-Line is NOT better than ours, and you are eternally owned by DADDY. Now go have a circle jerk with Art and DieHard over how much you "dominated" Chicago :lmao:

[The30YardSlant]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.

Art loves to show that he is, in fact, out to prove what an incredible idiot he is. This is the guy who said he threw a Cowboy fan out of FedEx last season, which of course if you had seen his picture in which he appears more like Richard Simmons than a bouncer, you would know this is not possible. So, either the man really believes the crap he spews, or he is a flat out liar. Either way, he has a terrible case of little man's syndrome if needs the validation from a MB.

[The30YardSlant]

Yes, I've found megalomaniacal twits reside on many a messageboard. And I don't enjoy having to deal with any of them.

I think that's all I've got to say on this subject. Go ahead and attack the Skins. Attack their fans. Attack their messageboards. And feel good about your own classy attitude.

Later.

"Validation....Please, oh please validate my existence!!!!!!" :lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

[Tio]

I generally try to avoid speaking for Art or on behalf of Art on this forum. He's a big boy and can explain himself if he wants to.

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.

Just something to thnk about the next time someone starts yet another 'can you believe what Art just posted' thread over here.He shouldn't be proud. It is his stupidity we talk about. Any skin fan can post the absolute homer posts art does and would get the same reaction, if they went to as much lengths to spid it the way he does. Quite frankly, I'm surprised bubba doesn't get that much pub here, probably because he doesn't go the extra mile art does.

[Rack Bauer]

However, since you asked I'll let you all here in on a llittle secret that appears to have eluded most of you for years now: Art likes riling up Cowboy fans. He absolutely LOVES the fact that he can post something on his own forum and posters he's never even heard of will go back to their own homepages and chatter about him. He lives for crap like that.


No.... I think he's just a moron.

[jcblanco22]

Art loves to show that he is, in fact, out to prove what an incredible idiot he is. This is the guy who said he threw a Cowboy fan out of FedEx last season, which of course if you had seen his picture in which he appears more like Richard Simmons than a bouncer, you would know this is not possible. So, either the man really believes the crap he spews, or he is a flat out liar. Either way, he has a terrible case of little man's syndrome if needs the validation from a MB.

Yeah, yeah, what HH said, he has a terrible case of little man's syndrome if he needs validation from Marion Barber!!