Brian Dawkins & Lavar Arrington on NFC East

[Hostile]

Arrington, Dawkins size up NFC East

Eagles safety Brian Dawkins and Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington were on the set of NFL Total Access to talk about the NFC East with host Rich Eisen. NFL Total Access airs Monday through Friday at 7 p.m. ET/PT (aired June 30, 2004).

Eisen: Did any of you guys during the offseason sit around and say, "Wow, this division is stacked more than ever?"

Dawkins: Yeah, absolutely. With the amount of guys we had coming into this division, and not just the guys but the coaches also that have been placed into this division and each coach you look at their winning percentages and it's pretty good. So it's definitely going to be stacked and it's definitely going to be a tougher division.

Arrington: I think it's great for football. Parcells versus Gibbs again, and then you got Andy Reid, who has been to the division championship all these years is the new kid on block again, so he's got something to prove against Parcells, Coughlin and Gibbs. It's just stacked. I mean they bring in T.O. as if they didn't already have enough talent in Philadelphia. They bring in "The Freak" which is sickening! I think the Redskins did alright, I think we did okay.

Dawkins: Oh yeah, they brought in some big talent. They're not just bringing in just decent guys, they bringing in big-time players. So when you have that, and hopefully they'll get that family unit camaraderie together -- that's the way you do it. Once you get that together you can run with it.

Eisen: Is there a franchise in Washington?

Dawkins: I don't think so!

Arrington: Richest franchise in sports.

Dawkins: I don't know how he does it, but I don't think he has one.

Eisen: The Dallas Cowboys have also brought in Keyshawn Johnson into the division. Who would you say is the team to beat? Would you still say it's the Eagles?

Arrington: They have to be just because they've proven every year consistently that they're the team to beat. So until you come on the block and knock the bully off, they're the team to beat.

Dawkins: I mean it's never easy. You may look at the records and whatever, but it's never easy to go out and do what we've been able to do. It's a tough thing to go out and do every year, to try to get to that point we've been talking about. You add these type of guys and these type of coaches and it makes it that much more tough. So guys hopefully are at home preparing for a real tough season this year. You can look at your schedule and say that it's not as strong, but you never know which team is going to be the one that's going to jump up and be the one that much more tougher than they were last year.

Eisen: Remove both your teams' acquisitions now and put them to the side. The most important acquisition, the one that you think is wow that was the best move out there would be?

Arrington: It's got to be Terrell (Owens). People can feel the way they want to feel about him and say the things they want to say about him, but he's a proven playmaker. I've always been one to say if you're going to talk it, at least walk it. If you're not going to back up what you're saying, then please just keep your mouth closed because it doesn't do anything but make you look bad. There's nobody that can say that Terrell Owens doesn't do what he's going to say he's going to do. By far I would imagine he's the biggest pick up. It could be Jevon (Kearse) if he stays healthy. It could be very close.

Dawkins: Wow. I would think it would be two running backs: Clinton Portis and Julius Jones. Jones could come out and give Bill Parcells the type of running game he wants, the one that controls the clock and can eat up the clock running the ball. Whoever's going to be at quarterback they don't have to be winning the game for them. If those two guys can get some ground game going for those two organizations I think they're going to be better off.

Eisen: If I can add my two cents I would go with Joe Gibbs in a way. I still can't believe that he's back.

Arrington: That man has the Midas touch and it seems he still has it. Everything he touches just turns to gold. I'm excited to play for him.

Dawkins: You know what else happens? When you have a guy that has won numerous times and is known for winning, it's just an attitude that he brings and it's completely different. You can totally believe in this guy because you know he got it done at one point so you know what he does, you know, it has some merit to it. Hopefully those guys buy into his system fast. If you buy into his system fast then you're going to move fast.

Eisen: Plus he's replacing a guy like Steve Spurrier. How bad did it get, LaVar?

Arrington: I just think with coach Spurrier we just needed guys to be a little bit more professional, and Steve isn't the type of guy that's going to be very confrontational and be all up in your face and pointing at you and telling you you need to do it a certain way. I think Steve believes that you're a professional, that you're here making money to perform and that's you're responsibility, that's your job. It's your duty to do it and I just don't think that we quite grasped that as a team and it kind of made it an awkward fit for a coach in their first year with the team.

Eisen: And again, that's been rectified

Arrington: I'll tell you what, these coaches from day one have set the tone for how things will be conducted and if you have a problem with it you can take it up with the ownership and go from there. Pretty much you can do it their way or you can hit the highway.

Eisen: Especially since the owner has been dreaming about this since he's been watching football in front of a TV as a kid.

Arrington: This is the final frontier. If coach Gibbs can't do it ... I hate to put this pressure on you, coach, but if coach Gibbs can't do it, I can't see anybody that would be able to do it. I think Joe Gibbs has really done a great job to bring all those doubts and to bring all the questions to ease in players minds.

Eisen: I can't wait.

Arrington: I can't wait. I'm excited because I'm in the division. Obviously all the attention is going to be on us because ... I don't think its hype. I really believe it going to be what people really think it's going to be so I'm excited.

[Skeptic]

Here's hoping for season-ending injuries to both Arrington and Owens.

I have no personal malice for either player's lives, but after watching their behavior the last few years I have to say that something needs to put them in their place.

Especially Owens. I sat less than fifteen feet away as he stole the home game from us.

Hate! Hate! Hate!

[EGG]

Here's hoping for season-ending injuries to both Arrington and Owens.

I have no personal malice for either player's lives, but after watching their behavior the last few years I have to say that something needs to put them in their place.

Especially Owens. I sat less than fifteen feet away as he stole the home game from us.

Hate! Hate! Hate!

It's going to be fun having Owens in the division,,, he's a talented contemptible we can all root against...

[Rack Bauer]

Here's hoping for season-ending injuries to both Arrington and Owens.



This is completely classless. You should be an Eagles fan. You already think like one.

[JBell523]

Seriously Rack...

I'd rather beat the Skins with Arrington and the Eagles with Owens anyway, it would make the win much more sweeter..

[Skeptic]

This is completely classless. You should be an Eagles fan. You already think like one.

Interesting thought from a poster that has Roy nearly killing a man in his signiture.

Lighten up.

[Rack Bauer]

Interesting thought from a poster that has Roy nearly killing a man in his signiture.

Lighten up.


Yeah but he didn't injure him for the season.


Seriously though, leave the talk of opposing teams players being hurt for the season to the Eagles fans. Cowboys fans are (and should) be above that. Like Bell said, I'd rather sweep the Eagirls and Skins with TO and Arrington playing anyway.

[TruBlueCowboy]

Yeah but he didn't injure him for the season.


Seriously though, leave the talk of opposing teams players being hurt for the season to the Eagles fans. Cowboys fans are (and should) be above that. Like Bell said, I'd rather sweep the Eagirls and Skins with TO and Arrington playing anyway.

Well, hell, I'm not above it! :p I'll gladly admit that I wouldn't mind seeing Terrell grasp a broken leg in midfield. It would be payback for the star and it would help get rid of the only receiver worth a damn on Philly.

[Cajuncowboy]

I missed that part of the show. I stopped watching after it bacame BET Lite.

[LaTunaNostra]

I missed that part of the show. I stopped watching after it bacame BET Lite.

Cajun, the league is composed of 80 % African American players. That means you are gonna get hip hop on Madden and a predominance of black players interviewed on sports shows. It's either develop something like a tolerance for African American culture, which is part of our own culture, or switch to hockey. :p

But you're missing a lot if you have dircttv and are not checking out Total Access.

They named the show right - what the "NFL Channel" has that ESPN does not IS "total access". Who else could get into the owners meetings in March or the Rookie Symposium in La Costa? See Patrick Kearney interview Jim Brown while playing lacrosse? Get SO MANY NFL players and coaches to contribute on a NIGHTLY basis? Give cameras to the players and have them out interviewing on the streets and locker rooms ?

I wasn't crazy about Rich Eisen a tfirst. But he's doing a terrifc job..really growing into it as an interviewer and a s show host.

Last night he had the ever loquacious Ephraim Salaam and the equally gregarious Donnie Edwards as guests, along with young Jets linebacker Victor Hobson. Of course, poor Victor, just a second year player with no skins on his wall, and rather shy, couldn't get a word in edgewise between these two, but Eisner did as good a job as possible going to him when Ephraim continually cut in.

Did we need to see Salaam propose to his girlfriend on a movie date on TV? No. But there's been surprisingly little of that fluff this summer.

Once the camps kick in there wil be really solid stuff.

PS One of those "sports challenges" things is coming up in a week or so, featuring Roy Williams and filmed on the Cayman Islands.

[Cajuncowboy]

Cajun, the league is composed of 80 % African American players. That means you are gonna get hip hop on Madden and a predominance of black players interviewed on sports shows. It's either develop something like a tolerance for African American culture, which is part of our own culture, or switch to hockey. :p

But you're missing a lot if you have dircttv and are not checking out Total Access.

They named the show right - what the "NFL Channel" has that ESPN does not IS "total access". Who else could get into the owners meetings in March or the Rookie Symposium in La Costa? See Patrick Kearney interview Jim Brown while playing lacrosse? Get SO MANY NFL players and coaches to contribute on a NIGHTLY basis? Give cameras to the players and have them out interviewing on the streets and locker rooms ?

I wasn't crazy about Rich Eisen a tfirst. But he's doing a terrifc job..really growing into it as an interviewer and a s show host.

Last night he had the ever loquacious Ephraim Salaam and the equally gregarious Donnie Edwards as guests, along with young Jets linebacker Victor Hobson. Of course, poor Victor, just a second year player with no skins on his wall, and rather shy, couldn't get a word in edgewise between these two, but Eisner did as good a job as possible going to him when Ephraim continually cut in.

Did we need to see Salaam propose to his girlfriend on a movie date on TV? No. But there's been surprisingly little of that fluff this summer.

Once the camps kick in there wil be really solid stuff.

PS One of those "sports challenges" things is coming up in a week or so, featuring Roy Williams and filmed on the Cayman Islands.

Tuna, I was being facecious. The truth is I don't need to watch a 10 minute segment with Arrington interviewing some guy when I can't understand what they are saying especially when it has nothing to do with football. I do watch NFL Network about every night. 90% of their programming is fine. I know they design it to meet just my tastes and that's ok. I just find it funny that there is so much hip hop in the NFL when I would imagine that it is only a fraction of their revenue generating target.

[LaTunaNostra]

The truth is I don't need to watch a 10 minute segment with Arrington interviewing some guy when I can't understand what they are saying

Time for that hearing aid , pops. ;)

I'll give you this tho.

There is not much any Washington player has to say at any time in any place that I'll rank high on Must See TV.

A few more Cowboys on that show would sweeten the pot.

PS They know what they are doing re hip hop and revenue, all right. Hip hop is mainstream now, and has been for a long while. The last three CDs I bought, for example, were Tantric, an old Nina Simone, and yep, Nelly.

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

Here's hoping for season-ending injuries to both Arrington and Owens -- especially Owens. I sat less than fifteen feet away as he stole the home game from us (dallas) Hate! Hate! Hate!

Septic,

I sure hope you were smoking something when you made the quote above. At least that would explain your harsh words. Listen, I know you're probably just an over-enthusiastic fan trying to make a point about your dedication to the dallas cowboys, but I hope you truly realize that both Arrington and T.O. are just althletes tryIng to make a living for their families. I wouLdn't wish that type of injury on the ...the dallas cowboys! :rolleyes:

Time to pUt away the Pipe and Grab some milk and cookies. :D

[Cajuncowboy]

The last three CDs I bought, for example, were Tantric, an old Nina Simone, and yep, Nelly.

The last 3 I bought were Ken Holloway, Jimmy Wayne and Clay Walker. Doubt I'll hear anyone interviewing them on TA but oh well. I'll just have to do it on my show.

[Tio]

Septic,

I sure hope you were smoking something when you made the quote above. At least that would explain your harsh words. Listen, I know you're probably just an over-enthusiastic fan trying to make a point about your dedication to the dallas cowboys, but I hope you truly realize that both Arrington and T.O. are just althletes tryIng to make a living for their families. I wouLdn't wish that type of injury on the ...the dallas cowboys! :rolleyes:

Time to pUt away the Pipe and Grab some milk and cookies. :DArmless egirl, This is a cowboys forum. If you don't want anyone to talk like that about your eagles then you shouldn't visit this site...

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

This is completely classless. You should be an Eagles fan. You already think like one.

Rack,

He couldn't hold an Eagles ...(I'd Like to say something) on a rainy day -- you keep him. The reality of it all is that he is a Cowboy fan!

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

Interesting thought from a poster that has Roy nearly killing a man in his signiture.

Lighten up.

Rack's signature depicts an NFL football game. There are already enough opportunities for a player to get injured without you having to wish it upon them. Haven't you ever seen a game where a player from an opposing team gets injured. Both sides of the field cheer, or do something to show their concern (regardless of the team affiliation).

Rack can talk about Eagle fans being like you, but in reality, your type of cowboy fan comes in all team affiliations. So I don't believe you are acting like a responsible fan of any Team!

I suggest you becoMe a WWF fan (from Dallas)! :rolleyes:

[thevinegarsting]

None of the Cowboys fans will ever forget the classless bums who filled the Eagles stadium the day Michael Irvins career ended. Eagles fans can't live that down.

[djmajestik]

Time for that hearing aid , pops. ;)

I'll give you this tho.

There is not much any Washington player has to say at any time in any place that I'll rank high on Must See TV.

A few more Cowboys on that show would sweeten the pot.

PS They know what they are doing re hip hop and revenue, all right. Hip hop is mainstream now, and has been for a long while. The last three CDs I bought, for example, were Tantric, an old Nina Simone, and yep, Nelly.

HH, love the new sigs! Really look cool, especially the last one that I saw you had up.

[Tio]

Rack,

He couldn't hold an Eagles ...(I'd Like to say something) on a rainy day -- you keep him. The reality of it all is that he is a Cowboy fan!You're rite, hoping someone is out for the season is nothing compared to the e-girls cheering when irvin could have been paralyzed for life... :rolleyes: I love it when you e-girl fan makes the argument easy for us...

[TruBlueCowboy]

Rack's signature depicts an NFL football game. There are already enough opportunities for a player to get injured without you having to wish it upon them. Haven't you ever seen a game where a player from an opposing team gets injured. Both sides of the field cheer, or do something to show their concern (regardless of the team affiliation).

Rack can talk about Eagle fans being like you, but in reality, your type of cowboy fan comes in all team affiliations. So I don't believe you are acting like a responsible fan of any Team!

I suggest you becoMe a WWF fan (from Dallas)! :rolleyes:

Don't you have some paralyzed receivers to go cheer? :rolleyes:

[AJM1613]

Don't you have some paralyzed receivers to go cheer? :rolleyes:
He isn't paralyzed, and he is rich with a fairly good life, or so it apears. He also has 3 SB rings. I really don't think we should feel bad for him. I wasn't one of the fans that cheered his injury and I NEVER route for players to get hurt no matter how much I hate them (i.e. Irvin), but I really don't think we should feel bad for him.

[Cajuncowboy]

He isn't paralyzed, and he is rich with a fairly good life, or so it apears. He also has 3 SB rings. I really don't think we should feel bad for him. I wasn't one of the fans that cheered his injury and I NEVER route for players to get hurt no matter how much I hate them (i.e. Irvin), but I really don't think we should feel bad for him.

At that moment in time he was paralyzed and everyone in the stadium knew it was bad when the ambulance came out. So don't try to minimize the barbaric behavior of your brethren in Filthydelphia. It was one of the worst moments in in Philly sports history.

[Skeptic]

Yeah but he didn't injure him for the season.


Seriously though, leave the talk of opposing teams players being hurt for the season to the Eagles fans. Cowboys fans are (and should) be above that. Like Bell said, I'd rather sweep the Eagirls and Skins with TO and Arrington playing anyway.


Granted.

That Jaeger got to me last night after reading that moron size us up.

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

Don't you have some paralyzed receivers to go cheer? :rolleyes:

are you talking about? :confused:

[Skeptic]

Septic,

I sure hope you were smoking something when you made the quote above. At least that would explain your harsh words. Listen, I know you're probably just an over-enthusiastic fan trying to make a point about your dedication to the dallas cowboys, but I hope you truly realize that both Arrington and T.O. are just althletes tryIng to make a living for their families. I wouLdn't wish that type of injury on the ...the dallas cowboys! :rolleyes:

Time to pUt away the Pipe and Grab some milk and cookies. :D

Did yewr wittwe eagwes feewings get huwt?

Awwww.

[Skeptic]

Rack,

He couldn't hold an Eagles ...(I'd Like to say something) on a rainy day -- you keep him. The reality of it all is that he is a Cowboy fan!

At least we didn't boo freaking Santa Claus.

Sheesh.

[Tio]

are you talking about? :confused:You're obvoiusly a new eagle fan

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

Did yewr wittwe eagwes feewings get huwt?

Awwww.

All of you Dallas fans must certainly realize that we both have good and bad representatives.

I'm not going to respond to anymore post on this thread because I can't justify the incident when Irvin was taken out. I'm not going to make any attempt to defend the fans who cheered when Irvin was taken out. The Only thing I can say is that I personally thought that Irvin's contributions and flambouyant behavior (on the field) is sorely missed.

[LaTunaNostra]

You're obvoiusly a new eagle fan

You caught on, eh?

That's about the fifth post I've read of this guy's made me think that.

[Big D]

. I just find it funny that there is so much hip hop in the NFL when I would imagine that it is only a fraction of their revenue generating target.



hmmm. pepsi,coke,mcdonalds have got it all wrong. That new clay aiken is REALLY what the youngsters nowadays wanna hear! :confused:

[Tio]

You caught on, eh?

That's about the fifth post I've read of this guy's made me think that.I gave him the benefit of the doubt...Plus im a slow learner...

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

I gave him the benefit of the doubt...Plus im a slow learner...

Don't you and the "Tuna" go getting all soft on me! I'm not new, I'm renovated. Listen, I'm a military veteran. The majority of my assignments were overseas (Korea, England, Sicily, Spain, etc, etc,); went to college in Texas. As such, American television was not always available/assessible in some countries. In fact, whenever we did get an NFL game, it was a rear treat! So I often watched games that had nothing to do with the Eagles; but I was still an Eagles fan. We'd be happy to catch a glimpse of what was going on during some of the sports news highlights -- scores around the NFL. So I learned to appreciate other teams; even the cowboys :eek: I was born an Eagles Fan (and Dayam proud of that!), but I learned how to be an NFL fan!

Many of you will probably want to know just what that means. Well, it means that I appreciate the game better than an average -- let's say Dallas fan. By braodiending my football cultural perspective, I'm able to look at some of the very shallow responses some of your bretheren give; present company excused of course, and rise above your nonsensical jabberwhocky. I won't hesitate to let you know that I many Dallas Cowboys players are some of my favorite NFL players (no seriously!).

I'm not new, regardless of what you believe. I'll give your team just as much respect as you give mine. So I think you both need to re-evaluate your interpretation of what defines a "new" fan.

Don't get into a pissing contest with someone on the balcony! :cool:

[LaTunaNostra]

Don't you and the "Tuna" go getting all soft on me! I'm not new, I'm renovated. Listen, I'm a military veterans. The majority of my time was spent overseas (Korea, England, Sicily, Spain, etc, etc,). As such, American television was not always available/assessible. In fact, whenever we did get an NFL game, it was a rear treat! So I often watched games that Had Nothing to do with the Eagles; but I was still an Eagles fan. We would be happy to catch a glimpse of what was going on during some of the sports news highlights. So I learned to appreciate other teams; even the cowboys I became an Eagles Fan at the same time I became an NFL fan!

I've lived overseas and appreciate the difficulties of missing several consecutive seasons. You never really catch up on the whole NFL scene over those years, but you fast do on your own team. I guess you're just back to the US very recently (basing that on your not knowing AJ Feeley was sent to Miami..my bad if that wasn't you). Welcome back and the service to our country is certainly appreciated.

However, your posting on a whole is more about you than the Eagles. One of the benefits of having rival teams fans on board is learning more about their respective teams. I'm revving up to make a foray onto some Eagles board, and take on their ringers, which I expect to be even bigger piece of cake than the Skins board was. But you're not doing much to increase my store of Eagles ammo/info. Try harder.

Many of you will probably want to know just what that means.

With baited breath, as usual. :rolleyes:

Well, it means that I appreciate the game better than an average -- let's say Dallas fan. By braodiending my football cultural perspective, I'm able to look at soMe of the very shallow responses some of your bretheren give; present company excused of course.

I think we are all NFL fans as well as individual teams fans, even we shallow types. Now with fantasy football, video games, the net and plethora of media sports outlets, even if you only wanted to stay informed on your specific team, you couldn't. It's a very well informed fanbase today.

But don't ever make the mistaKe of thinking that my dedication is any where other than the mighty Philadelphia Eagles.

Sure, it's all anyone ever thinks, or cares about. I have to giggle at your phrasing. It's so over the top ego.

I'm not new, regardless of what you believe. I'll give you just as much respect as you give me. So I think you both had better step back, put down your pipes, blow the duast off of those olllldddd Lombardi trophies, and reminisce about times gone by. You may not see that type of glory again for a long long time :cool:

Umm, umm, crack pipe smack references went out about five years ago. Just another thing you've got to catch up on, either that, or put your own down.. But you picked the right board to watch and learn on, I'l give you that.

[Tio]

Don't you and the "Tuna" go getting all soft on me! I'm not new, I'm renovated. Listen, I'm a military veteran. The majority of my assignments were overseas (Korea, England, Sicily, Spain, etc, etc,); went to college in Texas. As such, American television was not always available/assessible in some countries. In fact, whenever we did get an NFL game, it was a rear treat! So I often watched games that had nothing to do with the Eagles; but I was still an Eagles fan. We'd be happy to catch a glimpse of what was going on during some of the sports news highlights -- scores around the NFL. So I learned to appreciate other teams; even the cowboys :eek: I was born an Eagles Fan (and Dayam proud of that!), but I learned how to be an NFL fan!

Many of you will probably want to know just what that means. Well, it means that I appreciate the game better than an average -- let's say Dallas fan. By braodiending my football cultural perspective, I'm able to look at some of the very shallow responses some of your bretheren give; present company excused of course, and rise above your nonsensical jabberwhocky. I won't hesitate to let you know that I many Dallas Cowboys players are some of my favorite NFL players (no seriously!).

I'm not new, regardless of what you believe. I'll give your team just as much respect as you give mine. So I think you both need to re-evaluate your interpretation of what defines a "new" fan.

Don't get into a pissing contest with someone on the balcony! :cool:You're more high on yourself than on a crackpipe...

[Cajuncowboy]

hmmm. pepsi,coke,mcdonalds have got it all wrong. That new clay aiken is REALLY what the youngsters nowadays wanna hear! :confused:

Missed my point. Pepsi, McDonalds and coke have a universal appeal. Hip hop doesn't. The first rule in Marketing is Alienate little, incorporate much. By segmenting their audience they have pretty much cut out a wide array of folks. Not this will stop me or any hardcore from being a fan, it is just they are not going to creat brand loyalty by doing that universally. That was my entire point. I know from whence I talk. 20 years in the music and entertainment industry in marketing accounts for something.

[Skeptic]

Don't you and the "Tuna" go getting all soft on me! I'm not new, I'm renovated. Listen, I'm a military veteran. The majority of my assignments were overseas (Korea, England, Sicily, Spain, etc, etc,); went to college in Texas. As such, American television was not always available/assessible in some countries. In fact, whenever we did get an NFL game, it was a rear treat! So I often watched games that had nothing to do with the Eagles; but I was still an Eagles fan. We'd be happy to catch a glimpse of what was going on during some of the sports news highlights -- scores around the NFL. So I learned to appreciate other teams; even the cowboys :eek: I was born an Eagles Fan (and Dayam proud of that!), but I learned how to be an NFL fan!

Many of you will probably want to know just what that means. Well, it means that I appreciate the game better than an average -- let's say Dallas fan. By braodiending my football cultural perspective, I'm able to look at some of the very shallow responses some of your bretheren give; present company excused of course, and rise above your nonsensical jabberwhocky. I won't hesitate to let you know that I many Dallas Cowboys players are some of my favorite NFL players (no seriously!).

I'm not new, regardless of what you believe. I'll give your team just as much respect as you give mine. So I think you both need to re-evaluate your interpretation of what defines a "new" fan.

Don't get into a pissing contest with someone on the balcony! :cool:zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Win ONE NFC championship and ONE superbowl and we can talk.

Freaking posers.

[crazylegs]

Here's hoping for season-ending injuries to both Arrington and Owens.

I have no personal malice for either player's lives, but after watching their behavior the last few years I have to say that something needs to put them in their place.

Especially Owens. I sat less than fifteen feet away as he stole the home game from us.

Hate! Hate! Hate!

"Here's hoping for season-ending injuries to both Arrington and Owens."

Season-ending, career-ending what's the difference?

Either situation would inprove the image of the NFL!

[LaTunaNostra]

"Here's hoping for season-ending injuries to both Arrington and Owens."

Season-ending, career-ending what's the difference?

Either situation would inprove the image of the NFL!

I prefer to see them both have long careers.

Long, humiliating, unrealized, cellar dwelling careers.

TO to be longing for his days with Jeff Garcia, looking back on SF as the peak of his career, and nursing his bi-annual bruises from Roy, never to see a Pro Bowl again. And falling out with his buddy McFlabb, ending up reviling him to the press, like he did to Garcia. A spreading cancer on the Filthy Body. See Reid bench him, with the resulting "show".

TO can't take failure. I want him to live with it. A LONG time.

As for Arrington, let him never sniff a SB and have the words "unmet potential" be attached to him forevermore just as "undisciplined player" is today. Not a bust, but surely a unanimously proclaimed" major disappointment".

Disgrace for the both of them.

[Tio]

I prefer to see them both have long careers.

Long, humiliating, unrealized, cellar dwelling careers.

TO to be longing for his days with Jeff Garcia, looking back on SF as the peak of his career, and nursing his bi-annual bruises from Roy, never to see a Pro Bowl again. And falling out with his buddy McFlabb, ending up reviling him to the press, like he did to Garcia. A spreading cancer on the Filthy Body. See Reid bench him, with the resulting "show".

TO can't take failure. I want him to live with it. A LONG time.

As for Arrington, let him never sniff a SB and have the words "unmet potential" be attached to him forevermore just as "undisciplined player" is today. Not a bust, but surely a unanimously proclaimed" major disappointment".

Disgrace for the both of them.tell us how you really feel...

[LaTunaNostra]

tell us how you really feel...
Hey 31, you know those "critical moments" in every franchise's history?

You know when a team seems to be so so so close, and just needs that one or two players to get the big dance and win it all?

That's what they THINK the signing of TO means.

What I think it means is another type of critical moment..it's the one they will point to for generations as the biggest mistake they ever made. The cancer that spread thru the locker room, and took Reid and the SB ready team down.

I sure hope so anyway. ;)

[All About the D]

The last three CDs I bought, for example, were Tantric, an old Nina Simone, and yep, Nelly.

You still buy CDs? :D

[LaTunaNostra]

You still buy CDs? :D
Yep.

And with the help of two hearing aids, I can actually listen to them.

[BrAinPaiNt]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

Win ONE NFC championship and ONE superbowl and we can talk.

Freaking posers.


Pssst...they won ONE NFC Championship (Back in Jaworski's days)....however they still need that superbowl.

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

Originally Posted by Skeptic "...Win ONE NFC championship and ONE superbowl and we can talk ... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz."

HEY WAKE UP! :eek:

Dick Vermeil wanted me to remind you that the Eagles already won an NFC Championship; Jaws went to the Super Bowl -- we're still looking for the SB win.

We'll have that discussion soon! Now go back to sleep :p

[BrAinPaiNt]

You serve time in Korea?

I was stationed there in Camp Casey (2nd ID) 89-90.

[ARMAGEDDON EAGLE]

You serve time in Korea?

I was stationed there in Camp Casey (2nd ID) 89-90.

Is Camp Casey the demilitarized zone? If so, I was there for a brief period for "in-country" ground base defense. We shot 50 calibers some vehicles that were on the face of an cliff; shot the bazooka, m-60 (7.62 mm), learned to places charges on mortars. The chow hall had hard macaroni and under cooked hot dogs (we're told was a treat)!

I was Air Force; just visiting Camp Casey (thank goodness) :D

I was stationed at Kunsan; and Kwang-ju Air Bases.

Anna-ha-sha-meeka! :rolleyes:

[BrAinPaiNt]

Is Camp Casey the demilitarized zone? If so, I was there for a brief period for "in-country" ground base defense. We shot 50 calibers some vehicles that were on the face of an cliff; shot the bazooka, m-60 (7.62 mm), learned to places charges on mortars. The chow hall had hard macaroni and under cooked hot dogs (we're told was a treat)!

I was Air Force; just visiting Camp Casey (thank goodness)

I was stationed at Kunsan; and Kwang-ju Air Bases.

Anna-ha-sha-meeka! :rolleyes:


No not on the DMZ....however I have had my trips up there.

I think the only airforce people that were at Casey for any time were weather people. Did not see many smurfs in our neck of the woods.

Either way it seems we have spent time on some of the same ground...and have smelled the lovely smell of in the Summer. :D

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Either way it seems we have spent time on some of the same ground...and have smelled the lovely smell of in the Summer.

Indeed! I thought it was a pre-requisite for the mod squad to have a bowl of Kimche (did I say that Out Loud) :) ?

Smerfs -- yeah, while I was on the DMZ you could hear them on the mega-phones/loud speakers. One day, we were just walking near the no-man's land fence line, and someone just started shooting for No reason. When he stopped firing, we asked him what was he shooting at -- he said he thought he saw something move :cool: It was a free-fire zone also.

I studied Tae Qwon do (Ji-duck qwun), and Tang Soo Do (moo duck Qwon).

[BrAinPaiNt]

Indeed! I thought it was a pre-requisite for the mod squad to have a bowl of Kimche (did I say that Out Loud) ?

Smerfs -- yeah, while I was on the DMZ you could hear them on the mega-phones/loud speakers. One day, we were just walking near the no-man's land fence line, and someone just started shooting for No reason. When he stopped firing, we asked him what was he shooting at -- he said he thought he saw something move :cool: It was a free-fire zone also.

I studied Tae Qwon do (Ji-duck qwun), and Tang Soo Do (moo duck Qwon).


I hated Kimche...man that stuff was rank.

At one time I was assigned a room in the barracks that was also the room used by three Katusa (Korean army attached to USA) soldiers...they were very nice guys and I always thought highly of them...however they would sweat after eating that kimche and stink up the room...sometimes you would see orange stains on their shirts from it.

3 great guys and my humorous nature had to take advantage of the situation sometimes.

Their last names were Lee, Oh and Huh (not making that up).

So sometimes I would say "Lee" and he would ask me what I want and then I would get a perplexed look and say "Huh" (at this Huh would look at me confused) then when Lee would say that it was I who wanted him I would say..."OH" and this would get Oh looking at me....All three would be looking at me perplexed and I would just start laughing.

Oh by the way...when I said smurfs I was not talking about any Koreans (North or South)...Smurfs are what we called people in the Air Force. :)

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Smurfs are what we called people in the Air Force. :)

Hey!

I worked Town Patrol and the main gate (Air Police). The stories I could tell ... no one would believe unless they were there (the stories are all true)! Let me know when you'd like to chat about it more. :)

[QuincyCrusha_LeVar56]

Time for that hearing aid , pops. ;)

There is not much any Washington player has to say at any time in any place that I'll rank high on Must See TV.


Ouch. That hurts.