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Nors
09-12-2005, 09:48 PM
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17050&page=1&pp=15&highlight=billy+cundiff


I know I posted this and Adam had more stats in another thread. His poor leg was a myth - Hangtime and depth paramount.


Cortez kickoffs sux, our coverage sux. We miss Hoffman and Billy the kid.
Smith22
09-12-2005, 10:00 PM
For once, I agree with you Nors.
Nors
09-12-2005, 10:13 PM
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27878&page=2&pp=15&highlight=cundiff


Adams stats - We were top 5 pinning Kickoff returns last year. Maybe the Kid, Billy was not as bad as some thought. Combination of Cortez kicks and coverage sux.


http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27878&page=2&pp=15&highlight=cundiff
WoodysGirl
09-12-2005, 10:17 PM
Nors, do you have any numbers on Cortez? I'm an amateur of course, but the kicks looked fine to me. I thought the coverage sucked more than his kicks. And twice Cortez made some big TD-saving tackles. Real good form tackles, too.
Nors
09-12-2005, 10:22 PM
Nors, do you have any numbers on Cortez? I'm an amateur of course, but the kicks looked fine to me. I thought the coverage sucked more than his kicks. And twice Cortez made some big TD-saving tackles. Real good form tackles, too.



I'll try and look up tomorrow - Maybe Adam can do his majick. His kicks seems short and line drive. Cundiff's kicks had hangtime and allows ST to get down there and cause more damage. Yes, our coverage was suspect too.

When our Kicker is best tackler on KR we have failed!
Dayton Cowboy
09-12-2005, 10:55 PM
I thought the expertise of Cortez was suppose to be his kick-offs? Does anybody know how Todd France or the kid on the PS compares to Cortez??
big dog cowboy
09-12-2005, 11:02 PM
Cortez was kicking them to the goal line or into the end zone during the preseason. Draw your own conclusions.
Nors
09-12-2005, 11:03 PM
Cortez was kicking them to the goal line or into the end zone during the preseason. Draw your own conclusions.



He did NOT do that yesterday.....
gollum
09-12-2005, 11:45 PM
Nors, do you have any numbers on Cortez? I'm an amateur of course, but the kicks looked fine to me. I thought the coverage sucked more than his kicks. And twice Cortez made some big TD-saving tackles. Real good form tackles, too.

Hope this thread helps WG
http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33821
Smith22
09-13-2005, 02:52 AM
From NFL.com play by play:

J.Cortez kicks 62 yards from DAL 30 to SD 8. E.Parker to SD 24 for 16 yards (L.Polite).

J.Cortez kicks 58 yards from DAL 30 to SD 12. D.Sproles to SD 32 for 20 yards (L.Polite).

J.Cortez kicks 70 yards from DAL 30 to SD 0. D.Sproles to SD 49 for 49 yards
(J.Cortez, M.Barber).

J.Cortez kicks 64 yards from DAL 30 to SD 6. D.Sproles to DAL 48 for 46 yards (M.Barber).

J.Cortez kicks 67 yards from DAL 30 to SD 3. D.Sproles to SD 34 for 31 yards (S.Shanle).
Smith22
09-13-2005, 02:55 AM
Looks like his short kicks worked better for us than the long ones, but I know our coverage was blown way too many times. 2 off the top of my head: a fake reverse that seemed to make everyone hesitate and the other was a blown tackle by Fowler.
Rack Bauer
09-13-2005, 03:04 AM
It's more important to have hang time on your kickoffs then distance. If you have both, great, but hangtime is better then distance, unless you can kick them through the endzone every time.

Cundiff didn't get great distance on his kickoffs, but he had good hangtime, and that allows your kickoff team to get down field and defeat their blocks. Long line drive kicks w/no hangtime works to the return teams advantage.

But I think the reason our coverage was so bad was a combination of poor hangtime from Cortez' kicks and that actual coverage being bad.