Don't underestimate Brunell

[bbgun]

Last year, his best game by far was against Dallas. Brunell threw for 325 yards on 25-of-43 passing, with two touchdowns. Nor do I see Bled racking up two big games in a row, since the Skins D is formidable. We gotta shut down Portis and make Brunell and the smurfs beat us.

[dallascowboysfan31]

brunell will not survive our new pass rush

[Funxva]

My grandma could have passed on our secondary last year.

[WV Cowboy]

Don't underestimate Brunell, or the Skins, ... and also don't forget we came within an inch of losing the SD game.

We could be 0-1 very easily.

So while we are all very happy, (and if you watched the game, releived) that we won, let's not get all cocky so fast.

[burmafrd]

Don't underestimate our chances of working Brunnell over a lot more then last year, either. He has a weaker WR cast, and we are better in the secondary. They got open quickly last year- they won't this time. He will have to hold onto the ball longer, and Glover, Ware and company will be ringing his bell.

[scottsp]

Not that I think Dallas is good enough to "look past" any team.

As a fan, I am allowed. I have little respect for what Mark Brunell is at this point of his career. Not to mention, I feel a lot better about the Cowboy defense these days. I don't think I could be any less worried about a game than this one.

[Canadian BoyzFan]

If we don't take them lightly and play even close to our potential....we should win the game by a touchdown.

That's why games are played and not conceded.....still gotta go out and play for 60 mins.

I'm starting to sound like a cliche machine.

[Skins26]

Don't underestimate our chances of working Brunnell over a lot more then last year, either. He has a weaker WR cast, and we are better in the secondary.
:laugh2: @ weaker WR cast
Moss > Coles
Patten > 50/50
Trust me, our WR core has been upgraded.
What he doesn't have however, is the chemistry our WRs were growing with Ramsey. We'll see how all this plays out. If Brunell comes close to last years numbers then...well...it'd be a miracle.





...and miracles happen everyday don't they :)

[Eddie]

Don't underestimate Brunell, or the Skins, ... and also don't forget we came within an inch of losing the SD game.

We could be 0-1 very easily.

So while we are all very happy, (and if you watched the game, releived) that we won, let's not get all cocky so fast.


Words of wisdom and caution ... which I've been preaching all week. Mostly to deaf ears.

The cockiness around here astounds me. Some are predicting we beat the Skins by 40+ points. These were probably the same guys prediction 40+ point Cowboys blowout in the Pickle Bowl.

Let's not get in over our heads. We won one. Enjoy. But we're not quite the elite team everyone now things we are.

Skins can easily beat us. Give them credit and don't overlook them.

[dmq]

Who cares if we are cocky. We don't play the game. Parcells isn't gonna let the players get cocky. I would really be bumbed out if we lost. I watched the Redskins game last week. They aren't very good. I didn't see our game. I just think we will come together as a team and look better week to week. To me it seems like the Redskins are falling apart.

[Eddie]

Who cares if we are cocky. We don't play the game. Parcells isn't gonna let the players get cocky. I would really be bumbed out if we lost. I watched the Redskins game last week. They aren't very good. I didn't see our game. I just think we will come together as a team and look better week to week. To me it seems like the Redskins are falling apart.


What makes you think the Redskins won't come together as a team and look better week to week???

[bbgun]

There is no controversy or divisiveness at Redskins Park this week. Most of the players are in favor of this change and do play better for Brunell. They are not a distracted team.

[Kittymama]

Words of wisdom and caution ... which I've been preaching all week. Mostly to deaf ears.

The cockiness around here astounds me. Some are predicting we beat the Skins by 40+ points. These were probably the same guys prediction 40+ point Cowboys blowout in the Pickle Bowl.

Let's not get in over our heads. We won one. Enjoy. But we're not quite the elite team everyone now things we are.

Skins can easily beat us. Give them credit and don't overlook them.
I don't think anyone is underestimating the Skins. Most importantly--Parcells & his crew aren't. The local broadcasts are showing interviews with the Dallas players, & they sound just like Parcells. "We've got a lot of work to do. We made too many mistakes. We have to improve on special teams." You better believe that Parcells wants to beat Gibbs just as badly as Gibbs wants to beat Parcells. He may not telegraph it as desperately as Gibbs, but BP full well knows that this game is a biggie for Dallas fans & JJ.

[dmq]

I just didn't see much talent on the offensive side of the ball. I think their RB is overrated. Brunnel doesn't really strike fear into me. I am from NY and watch lots of Jets games and am not overly scared of Moss. Oline is pretty average. Cooley is OK, but he is no Witten. Put that all together and add offensive schemes that are so vanila and I see a team that aint going anywhere.

[Duane]

There is no controversy or divisiveness at Redskins Park this week. Most of the players are in favor of this change and do play better for Brunell. They are not a distracted team.
And you know this how?

[Hiero]

yep, last year we had one of the worst pass D's in the league, this year our entire defense is overhauled and much approved, i can guarantee brunell will not have anywhere near the game he did last year. book it.

[wileedog]

:laugh2: @ weaker WR cast
Moss > Coles

Meh, I'd call them equal at best, and only because Coles has had injury issues. Moss is fast but he's traditionally been adverse to the middle and his hands aren't as good.

The Jets know both receivers better than you or I ever and will, and its clear which one they wanted.

Furtheremore, lets not forget this was the game that Pete Hunter went down. Not that he was Deon Jr., but his replacements were two late round/UFA rookies without a clue what they were doing. I don't think its coincidence that Brunnel only threw for 21 in the 1st Q, then in the 2Q after Hunter went down threw for 89, then 225 in the 2nd half.

Lastly, it should be recalled we sacked Brunell 5 times in this game, 2 of those sacks from Canton-bound Tony Dixon. And that 120 or so of Brunells 325 yards came after the Cowboys were up 21-10 with 5 minutes left to go. The team clearly went into coast mode (as they did with the rest of the season).

Brunell might be better this year, but honestly that game doesn't scare me. He completed nothing over 20 yards until the 4th Q and he did against a crappy secondary and the likes of Marellus Wiley rushing him. Joey Harrington put up 255 and 2 TDs on us last year too.

I'm more worried about keeping Bledsoe upright against their defense than anything. If we can do that we'll be ok.

[bbgun]

Because I live in DC and listen to all the radio and TV shows. If there was an insurrection, it would have leaked out by now.

[Sportsbabe]

brunell will not survive our new pass rush

Yeah, that poster needs to recognize, this ain't last years Cowboys. We've got DB's who know how to play the football this time around. I'm scared of Brunnell like I'm scared of the Redskins the past 5 years ... not at all :dissskin:

[Henry]

Your defense certainly looked better last week than it did last year.

Then again, so did our OL. Our pass protection was much better, and our run game was MUCH better. That overrated system back Clinton Portis averaged 5.8 yards a carry, far higher than he averaged in any game last season. Jansen and Rabach are making a big difference so far.

Our defense picked up exactly where it left off, holding the Bears to 2.3 yards per carry. Kyle Orton, who the announcers fawned over all day for keeping his poise and composure and having an ok day amassed a stellar 52.8 passer rating. Bledsoe is obviously a far bigger threat than Orton, but our pass defense is equally far better than San Diego's.

The big question mark (no pun intended) is Brunell. Is he the ghost of his former self we saw last year, or is he the re-energized savvy vet we saw in the pre-season? I think the answer to that question will determine the Redskins' chances on Monday night.

[Skins26]

Meh, I'd call them equal at best, and only because Coles has had injury issues. Moss is fast but he's traditionally been adverse to the middle and his hands aren't as good.
I guess you didn't see the Jets game did you?
Moss' hands are better, no doubt. (even last year Coles had a case of the droppsies <--- is that with one 'p' or 2?)

Oh and Moss' 50+ yarder Sunday, that was a pass over the middle.

[Sportsbabe]

The cockiness around here astounds me

Let's not get in over our heads. We won one. Enjoy. But we're not quite the elite team everyone now things we are.

Skins can easily beat us. Give them credit and don't overlook them.

Why does it pain you so that you sense cockiness on this board. We are fans. It feels real good to win on opening day; to beat a 12-4 team of last year; to beat them at their place; to beat the team with the top rusher in the NFL; to stop them 4 times straight inside the 10 from getting the go-ahead TD.

We've owned the Redskins over the past several years with mediocre teams. We have a vastly improved team and coach from those previous years. They are coming to Texas stadium on Monday Night; the Tripletts are being inducted, etc, etc. You daggone skippy I'm cocky and loving it. :dance:

Don't worry yourself over the enthusiasm in here at this time ... your desires will soon be fulfilled and you can one againe be pleased if/when we lose one and everyone will be crying the blues. Just hold on. :rolleyes:

(P.S. I Ain't Giving the Skins Squat but a Chance in Hades)

[wileedog]

I guess you didn't see the Jets game did you?
Moss' hands are better, no doubt. (even last year Coles had a case of the droppsies <--- is that with one 'p' or 2?)

Oh and Moss' 50+ yarder Sunday, that was a pass over the middle.

Living in the NY area I have seen plenty of both players. Probably more of Moss than you have.

You are extrapolating one game out over their careers, which is simply not a valid comparison. In general, Coles is more likely to make the tough catch over the middle - I don't think that is even arguable, and Coles dropping a pass this weekend and Moss finally daring a crossing route doesn't really change that.

If Coles was still a Redskin and Moss still a Jet, I firmly believe we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But having seen both players I was tickled pink when you were forced to deal Coles for Moss - you can't convince me in any way shape or form that is a deal the Skins would have made if Coles had not forced it on them.

[fiveandcounting]

[QUOTE=Skins26]:laugh2: @ weaker WR cast
Moss > Coles
Patten > 50/50
Trust me, our WR core has been upgraded.
What he doesn't have however, is the chemistry our WRs were growing with Ramsey. We'll see how all this plays out. If Brunell comes close to last years numbers then...well...it'd be a miracle.


No Coles > Moss

[Dallas4ever]

Although history tells his that anything can happen in these types of rivalrys. It's kind of tough not to be cocky when you consider how we've recently owned the Skins. Owned them doing a time when we weren't a very good team. I honestly see us stomping the "Porkskins". Not overconfident in this at all. The Skins situation (team chemistry) is obviously unstable right now and it will surface as soon as things start going wrong.

[Josh90286]

Living in the NY area I have seen plenty of both players. Probably more of Moss than you have.

You are extrapolating one game out over their careers, which is simply not a valid comparison. In general, Coles is more likely to make the tough catch over the middle - I don't think that is even arguable, and Coles dropping a pass this weekend and Moss finally daring a crossing route doesn't really change that.

If Coles was still a Redskin and Moss still a Jet, I firmly believe we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But having seen both players I was tickled pink when you were forced to deal Coles for Moss - you can't convince me in any way shape or form that is a deal the Skins would have made if Coles had not forced it on them.
I definately agree that Coles is better than Moss, when Coles is healthy. Coles wasnt healthy for any of last year, and isn't healthy yet. Toe injuries linger, as you guys know from Deion. Right now, with Coles still hurting, id call them equal. If Coles were healthy, he is easily the choice. He drops a few, but so does TO...He just produces more consistantly than Moss.

[Skins26]

Living in the NY area I have seen plenty of both players. Probably more of Moss than you have.

You are extrapolating one game out over their careers, which is simply not a valid comparison. In general, Coles is more likely to make the tough catch over the middle - I don't think that is even arguable, and Coles dropping a pass this weekend and Moss finally daring a crossing route doesn't really change that.
No Coles dropped two wide open TD passes this weekend. And I was talking about last year as well.
And with Moss, I could care less if he ever goes across the middle again. If Moss has better stats in every single category over Coles, but he never did any crossing routes and Coles did....I fail to see how that makes Coles the better reciever. Wouldn't that be more on the playcalling?

If Coles was still a Redskin and Moss still a Jet, I firmly believe we wouldn't even be having this conversation. But having seen both players I was tickled pink when you were forced to deal Coles for Moss - you can't convince me in any way shape or form that is a deal the Skins would have made if Coles had not forced it on them.
I loved Coles when he was here. I wish him the very best in NY.
If you can guarentee me that Coles will return to his early 2003 form (pre injury), then no we wouldn't be having this conversation. Because then Coles would be > Moss.
As it stands now, until he proves otherwise (which could very well happen). Moss > Coles.

[sporadic]

I think we should be concerned with Brunell...he has an accurate arm...and you can debate all you want about the receivers around him - these guys are all in the NFL and can make plays if the ball is thrown accurately. The key is we cannot give him time to make comfortable throws. And I really liked how we pressured Brees without bringing everyone. It has been a long time since we have had that.

[Wood]

the threw the ball 43 times against the Fraziers of the world. He should have throw for over 500 hundred yards in that game.

[Sportsbabe]

the threw the ball 43 times against the Fraziers of the world. He should have throw for over 500 hundred yards in that game.

:lmao2:
:starspin

[TheHustler]

Our defense picked up exactly where it left off, holding the Bears to 2.3 yards per carry. Kyle Orton, who the announcers fawned over all day for keeping his poise and composure and having an ok day amassed a stellar 52.8 passer rating. Bledsoe is obviously a far bigger threat than Orton, but our pass defense is equally far better than San Diego's.

You're proud of keeping stalwarts Thomas Jones and Kyle Orton in check? Wow.... Congrats... They're uh..... great players... yeah....

We held LT, the consensus best back in the league under 4 yards per carry.

[BEASToftheEAST]

There is no controversy or divisiveness at Redskins Park this week. Most of the players are in favor of this change and do play better for Brunell. They are not a distracted team.

According to what I've read over the last couple of days on the various Skins meltdown posts, Portis, Jansen and Cooley are all on record as supporters of Ramsey. Saying that he is their future and leader and crap. So how is this not a distraction?

[The30YardSlant]

Noodle arm wont last 2 quarters

[scottsp]

Who cares if we are cocky. We don't play the game.

You mean, you're not lining up at cornerback? And I'm not rushing the passer? Damn!

So, as a fan, I can worry more about how much air time ABC gives to the R.O.H. induction ceremony than I do that hack, Mark Brunell?

Outstanding. Because that's how I am approaching this one and it will not cost Dallas a single solitary point on the scoreboard that I am doing so.

[dbair1967]

Last year, his best game by far was against Dallas. Brunell threw for 325 yards on 25-of-43 passing, with two touchdowns. Nor do I see Bled racking up two big games in a row, since the Skins D is formidable. We gotta shut down Portis and make Brunell and the smurfs beat us.

not that we can play poorly and win, but we're alot more talented than the Bears, who the Redskins struggled to beat...Orton and the Bears offense isnt remotely as good as ours is

unless we just have 4 or 5 turnovers and/or totally melt down defensively, we should win

David

[smashmouth]

I really don't care what the deadskins have on offense or defense, I'll let BP and crew worry about that.

But from our side of the ball, I think last year the skins were playing a totally different team - they were playing against a horrible runner, a horrible passer, an average offensive line, a horrible defensive line and scheme, a bad linebacking crew, a secondary that had RW playing out of position, and a second corner who was pathetic.

They are going up against a HUGE defensive line plus Ware who is going to be in Mark B.'s face all day long.

Portis is a good one, I'll give you that. We'll leave him in the hands of RW.

On offense, they may have a better secondary than the Chargers, but you will not be able to stop everything we're bringing at you.

You will need to stop JJ, or Witten, or Key, or Glenn, or Crayton, or Price. - you can't stop them all.

One last thing, if they can't put any kind of decent pressure on DB, or slow down JJ, then I predict we put up 4 TD's and 3 FG.

[PullMyFinger]

I never underestimate an opponent, especially a rival. Thats a bad thing to do.

[Henry]

You're proud of keeping stalwarts Thomas Jones and Kyle Orton in check? Wow.... Congrats... They're uh..... great players... yeah....

We held LT, the consensus best back in the league under 4 yards per carry.

And your boy Bledsoe moved the ball against the second worst pass defense in the league last year. Suddenly that means you're gonna plunk 35 on us.

And I don't hear anyone on this board lamenting the fact that Julius Jones was held to under 4 yards a carry. Somehow he's the future centerpeice of your high-powered offense. Wow ... Congrats. :)

[TheHustler]

And your boy Bledsoe moved the ball against the second worst pass defense in the league last year. Suddenly that means you're gonna plunk 35 on us.

And I don't hear anyone on this board lamenting the fact that Julius Jones was held to under 4 yards a carry. Somehow he's the future centerpeice of your high-powered offense. Wow ... Congrats. :)

Touche!

I never said 35.... maybe 34 ;)

[smashmouth]

And your boy Bledsoe moved the ball against the second worst pass defense in the league last year. Suddenly that means you're gonna plunk 35 on us.

And I don't hear anyone on this board lamenting the fact that Julius Jones was held to under 4 yards a carry. Somehow he's the future centerpeice of your high-powered offense. Wow ... Congrats. :)What a pathetic organization you all have.

JJ was held to 95 yards against a top notch run defense.

We played against a super-bowl caliber team of last year, who hasn't changed much.

We walked into their town, and we took a ton of rookies with us, and we beat them.

I'm thinking that if we could have played better special teams, we could have held them to 2 Touches, and 2 Field goals.

When you guys start scoring touch downs, then maybe you can start beating the 2nd worst team in the NFL, since you just beat the worst last week.

[PullMyFinger]

Henry

At least Julius can hold on to the ball, Id take him over 10 Portis' any day of the week. And SD's run defense isnt as bad as you think. Repost your idiocy on Tuesday after you've lost.

[The30YardSlant]

And your boy Bledsoe moved the ball against the second worst pass defense in the league last year. Suddenly that means you're gonna plunk 35 on us.

And I don't hear anyone on this board lamenting the fact that Julius Jones was held to under 4 yards a carry. Somehow he's the future centerpeice of your high-powered offense. Wow ... Congrats. :)

It was against the second best run defense in football, and he still had 93 yards and a TD

Portis, on the other hand, gained 121 yards and no TDs against the 21st ranked defense in the NFL.

Bye now :lmao2:

[wileedog]

And with Moss, I could care less if he ever goes across the middle again. If Moss has better stats in every single category over Coles, but he never did any crossing routes and Coles did....I fail to see how that makes Coles the better reciever.
Because a crossing route is harder to cover than vertical routes, and Coles doesn't have 1/3 of the field taken away from him because he's not physical enough to make a catch in traffic.

It ultimately means more production, which is the entire point. Santana can be taken out of a game by a physical corner, Coles can't, at least not as easily.

And Moss has never had in any season "better stats in every single category" then Coles. Even last year when Coles was hurt and played half his season with Mark "Pea Shooter" Brunnell in Gibb's 3 yard and a cloud of dust *passing* offense, he still put up more catches and yards.

I loved Coles when he was here. I wish him the very best in NY.
If you can guarentee me that Coles will return to his early 2003 form (pre injury), then no we wouldn't be having this conversation. Because then Coles would be > Moss.
As it stands now, until he proves otherwise (which could very well happen). Moss > Coles.

Coles is physically a better player and has a better track record. I think it makes up for the toe, and hurt they are about equal players. If as you say the toe heals, then its not even a question.

But I haven't seen one shred of evidence to support your statement that Moss > Coles.

*shrug* I guess we'll see.

[smashmouth]

Henry:

Who are you and your deadskins going to draft number one over-all in next years draft?

[The30YardSlant]

Henry:

Who are you and your deadskins going to draft number one over-all in next years draft?

A new owner :lmao:

[smashmouth]

The league is going to feel sorry for your organization and give you the 1st and 2nd overall pick.

[wileedog]

Henry:

Who are you and your deadskins going to draft number one over-all in next years draft?

Nobody. Denver has that pick.

[BEASToftheEAST]

And your boy Bledsoe moved the ball against the second worst pass defense in the league last year. Suddenly that means you're gonna plunk 35 on us.

And I don't hear anyone on this board lamenting the fact that Julius Jones was held to under 4 yards a carry. Somehow he's the future centerpeice of your high-powered offense. Wow ... Congrats. :)


:rolleyes:

Please. You're spewing random stats to try and downplay what the Dallas offense did on Sunday? They scored 28 points against a playoff team on the road. These are the stats that matter.

How about your O?
Home field advantage? check
Terrible opponent? check
Portis running well? check
result? 9 points

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Please try again.

[Cbz40]

I'm sure Bill Parcells is not taking The Redskins , Brunnell, Gibbs, Portis as lightly as some of you are. When a team gets into their brains another team is a pushover.....guess what? they get beat.

Should we beat the Redskins......Heck yes. We are as good or better than they are in almost every aspect of the game, with possibly one exception, ST.


But this game is not and will never be a gimmie. We had better bring our best game to the field Monday Night.

[smashmouth]

Nobody. Denver has that pick.No you didn't hear me, I said the league will feel sorry for the deadskins and GIVE them the number 1 overall pick.

That means Denver gets screwed. :laugh2: :suxskins:

[smashmouth]

I'm sure Bill Parcells is not taking The Redskins , Brunnell, Gibbs, Portis as lightly as some of you are. When a team gets into their brains another team is a pushover.....guess what? they get beat.

Should we beat the Redskins......Heck yes. We are as good or better than they are in almost every aspect of the game, with possibly one exception, ST.


But this game is not and will never be a gimmie. We had better bring our best game to the field Monday Night.Honestly, this is a game where deep down, it makes me nervous just because it's a division rivalry.

We dominate them in just about every aspect.

I just don't think we or the league knows how good this Cowboys team is. I truly think we could possibly be looking at something special here with the Cowboys.

IMO, the only think that will spoil us this year is the lack of experience, bad offensive line play, and KEY injuries.

[JDSmith]

Brunell is shot. He has been for years. Even this year, when Skins fans are talking about his rejuvinated look in preseason, he managed an 85 QB rating. Did he even start a game? I don't think so, I think he compiled his whopping 85 rating in preseason playing against second and third stringers. Tony Romo put up a 93 rating against opposition of similar quality. We will abuse Brunell, he will look like the shell of a QB that he's been over the past few years, and we will crush the Skins. Unless we turn the ball over 5 or 6 times we'll win handily. If we are even in the turnover battle we should win by 14 pts.

The Skins barely beat the Bears. They couldn't score a TD against Chicago. They 'held' a rookie QB who was third on the depth chart two weeks ago to one TD with their super D. The fact that they barely eeked out a win against a team like the Bears, at home, shows exactly how far they've fallen. Against that Bears team Brunell managed a whopping 5 yards per attempt, with a pitiful 70 QB rating.

The Skins are in disarray, from the top of the organization to the bottom. Starting Brunell is just the last desperation move of a man who knows he and his team are one more dunk away from drowning. Gibbs will be gone by the end of the year and he'll take Brunell with him.

[The30YardSlant]

I'm sure Bill Parcells is not taking The Redskins , Brunnell, Gibbs, Portis as lightly as some of you are. When a team gets into their brains another team is a pushover.....guess what? they get beat.

Should we beat the Redskins......Heck yes. We are as good or better than they are in almost every aspect of the game, with possibly one exception, ST.


But this game is not and will never be a gimmie. We had better bring our best game to the field Monday Night.

What the old coot is trying to say is:







































Washington sucks :)

[smashmouth]

What the old coot is trying to say is:







































Washington sucks :)
:lmao2: I second that.

[JDSmith]

And what's all this talk about the Bears D? Did I miss something? Wasn't this the same D we scored 21 pts against last year? Did they do something miraculous in the offseason to turn themselves into a good defense?? I don't remember hearing much about their draft or their free agent acquisitions, could someone fill me in on why they should be much better than last year?

Or could it possibly be that the Bears D isn't great, but the Skins offense is simply pathetic??

[Cbz40]

What the old coot is trying to say is:



WHAT DID YOU CALL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You young rebel rouser.......................................... :( :( :( :( :(















:D :D :D :D























Washington sucks :)[/QUOTE]

No........ They inhale profusely...... ;)

[smashmouth]

I don't feel sorry for anyone in our division. As far as I'm concerned, they all suck.
I have to sit there and listen to this crap when we're losing, and I have to take it.

So when someone comes in this world over here called the great COWBOYSZONE, I have to defend my turf - and I hope that the Cowboys and our fans at Texas Stadium feel the same way come Monday night.

I want our fans to be like the falcons fans were the other night - and I want our defense to send QB Marky B into retirement early.

I want RW to turn their secondary into a burial ground.

I want JJ, to go thru their defense like armored tank, and I want Bledsoe to send fire at that secondary like an M16.

I hate the deadskins, and I can't hide it. Now if we happen to lose, you all might not see me for a weak or so..hahaha

[The30YardSlant]

WHAT DID YOU CALL ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!You young rebel rouser.......................................... :( :( :( :( :(















:D :D :D :D























Washington sucks :)

No........ They inhale profusely...... ;)[/QUOTE]

:lmao2:

Now excuse me as I defile CBZ's yard in an attempt to find my long lost football :D

[Cbz40]

No........ They inhale profusely...... ;)

:lmao2:

Now excuse me as I defile CBZ's yard in an attempt to find my long lost football :D[/QUOTE]


at your own risk.........land mines are in place and the gators are hungry. :D

[The30YardSlant]

at your own risk.........land mines are in place and the gators are hungry. :D

:scream:

[dmq]

Madden is doing our game right? I would love to here Theisman's response after we torch them.

[Bizwah]

And your boy Bledsoe moved the ball against the second worst pass defense in the league last year. Suddenly that means you're gonna plunk 35 on us.

And I don't hear anyone on this board lamenting the fact that Julius Jones was held to under 4 yards a carry. Somehow he's the future centerpeice of your high-powered offense. Wow ... Congrats. :)

San Diego had the league's third best run-defense last year. JJ still put up 93 yards on them.

As one columnist said today, "He got shut down" and still put up 93 yards?

I'll take that.

[Jammer]

I don't care how superior one team is supposedly over the other in this rivalry. All I have to remember is Nov 5, 1989. Remembering that date keeps my feet planted on solid ground.

[Bizwah]

Your defense certainly looked better last week than it did last year.

Then again, so did our OL. Our pass protection was much better, and our run game was MUCH better. That overrated system back Clinton Portis averaged 5.8 yards a carry, far higher than he averaged in any game last season. Jansen and Rabach are making a big difference so far.

I watched your game. You OL did look OK. I have always liked Jansen....shame he was injured last year (honestly).

And although Portis averaged 5.8 yards a carry against the Bears, he did have the aid of a 40 some-odd yard run.....when the Bears obviously were gassed.

Until that run, they had Portis bottled up. But I'll be fair, Portis made a big play when he had to. I honestly can't stand it when people say to take away the big run......but in this case, Portis WAS controlled most of the game.

Our defense picked up exactly where it left off, holding the Bears to 2.3 yards per carry. Kyle Orton, who the announcers fawned over all day for keeping his poise and composure and having an ok day amassed a stellar 52.8 passer rating. Bledsoe is obviously a far bigger threat than Orton, but our pass defense is equally far better than San Diego's.

Now, this is the one area of your team that truly frightens me. Your defense isn't all that talented....especially on the DL....but they scheme well, and play hard together. I have a feeling that you just might rattle Bledsoe into stupid mistakes that will result in easy points for you all.

The big question mark (no pun intended) is Brunell. Is he the ghost of his former self we saw last year, or is he the re-energized savvy vet we saw in the pre-season? I think the answer to that question will determine the Redskins' chances on Monday night.

I've always liked Brunell. I think he's going to be a lot like VT was for us last year. At times he'll put together big time games....other times, he'll look like a 37 year old vet. You're right.....which Brunell will show up?

I don't think this will be a cake-walk for us. I think it'll be a dog-fight the entire way. I think you all have a real chance against us this year. I would not be at all surprised to see you come in and shock us in front of the triplets.......It'll be a homecoming atmosphere......and we're primed for a letdown.

[wileedog]

And I don't hear anyone on this board lamenting the fact that Julius Jones was held to under 4 yards a carry. Somehow he's the future centerpeice of your high-powered offense. Wow ... Congrats. :)

This is so silly.

JJ did exactly what he needed to do - made San Diego keep 8 men in the box...

All. Damn. Day.

THe result?

7 of 11 3rd down conversions, most of them to Crayton open in the middle because of the vacated space. Bledsoe throws 3 TDs. We are 4 for 4 in the red zone.

I see Mr. Portis managed 5.8 YPC. That's great. What did all that running back production net you? 3 FGs? 70 yards passing in 3 quarters once Brunnell came in? 6-16 on 3rd down?

Gee, that's swell.

I'm pretty happy with our "high-powered" offense's performance.

Are you?

[Henry]

I watched your game. You OL did look OK. I have always liked Jansen....shame he was injured last year (honestly).

And although Portis averaged 5.8 yards a carry against the Bears, he did have the aid of a 40 some-odd yard run.....when the Bears obviously were gassed.

Until that run, they had Portis bottled up. But I'll be fair, Portis made a big play when he had to. I honestly can't stand it when people say to take away the big run......but in this case, Portis WAS controlled most of the game.

That arguement was a lot more convincing after the Bucs game last year, when Portis had his 64 yard TD and ran for 148 yards on 29 carries. This year, Portis still average 4.1 yards per carry WITHOUT the big run. They didn't have him bottled up at all.

It's not llike Portis didn't have big runs last year as well. But last year he never brok 100 yards without rushing the ball at least 29 times. On Sunday he rushed it 21 times.

I don't think this will be a cake-walk for us. I think it'll be a dog-fight the entire way. I think you all have a real chance against us this year. I would not be at all surprised to see you come in and shock us in front of the triplets.......It'll be a homecoming atmosphere......and we're primed for a letdown.

The Letdown is what I'm hoping for. You guys just won a huge game, an emotional game ... a last second win over a tough team on the road. You are expecting an easy win this week. It could be a big trap game for you all. Honestly, I'd be more worried if you had lost a close one to the Chargers, because you'd be looking to take out your revenge on someone ... namely us. :)

But now there's that chance for a letdown. And at this point I'll take a win any way I can get one. Our team isn't great, and you all have to favored this week, but we don't get blown out. We stick around and stick around and punch teams in the mouth defensively. If the Cowboys aren't ready for four quarters we might just sneak out with it.

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Because a crossing route is harder to cover than vertical routes, and Coles doesn't have 1/3 of the field taken away from him because he's not physical enough to make a catch in traffic.

It ultimately means more production, which is the entire point. Santana can be taken out of a game by a physical corner, Coles can't, at least not as easily.

And Moss has never had in any season "better stats in every single category" then Coles. Even last year when Coles was hurt and played half his season with Mark "Pea Shooter" Brunnell in Gibb's 3 yard and a cloud of dust *passing* offense, he still put up more catches and yards.

Coles is physically a better player and has a better track record. I think it makes up for the toe, and hurt they are about equal players. If as you say the toe heals, then its not even a question.

But I haven't seen one shred of evidence to support your statement that Moss > Coles.

*shrug* I guess we'll see.
Well yeah, I'm sure we will see. We'll see what we've been seeing the last 4 weeks.

I haven't seen a shred of evidence that discounts my statement.
I know the QB situation with the Jets is enough to make grown men cry, but even if they had a competent QB, there's just no way Coles was going to have a better year than Moss.

All that crap about Coles being a physically better player, or them being equal with Coles hurt, all that is just nonsense.