View Full Version : is Julius an average back?
Bob Sacamano
09-18-2005, 07:07 AM
some idiot on another forum is trying to tell me that Julius is an average back, because he racked up his yards and Tds against porous run Ds, then he goes onto say that he gets too much pub for, "not really doing anything"
what an IDIOT!! maybe he doesn't deserve to be called a great back, but he sure as hell aint average
MichaelWinicki
09-18-2005, 07:13 AM
some idiot on another forum is trying to tell me that Julius is an average back, because he racked up his yards and Tds against porous run Ds, then he goes onto say that he gets too much pub for, "not really doing anything"
what an IDIOT!! maybe he doesn't deserve to be called a great back, but he sure as hell aint average
At this point after 9 games in his pro-career I think giving him any label is a bit unfair, "Great", "Averge", "Good"-- whatever. I think it can be said the guy is potentially outstanding-- potentially. But he has a long way to go to cement that position. He has the tools, that I think he's proven but he has to do it on the field week after week for at least a couple seasons before we give him the title of "great".
Bob Sacamano
09-18-2005, 07:16 AM
areed 100%, just think terms such as "average" and "not doing really anything" is a bit untrue, he did enough to make people excited about him
big dog cowboy
09-18-2005, 07:23 AM
Well that is something not many people would agree with. He may not be in the LT or Priest Holmes class yet, he certainly isn't chop liver either.
jterrell
09-18-2005, 07:47 AM
If you watch Jones and see his vision, quickness, speed and strength you can tell he is a special player.
Right now he is an average pass catcher and blocker but the rest of his game is top 10 in the league at his position.
He's a better player than Clinton Portis for instance because he is stronger, with better vision.
dargonking999
09-18-2005, 09:59 AM
For those dont see JJ and dont watch him on a every game basis theywould call him average, all theysee his 150+ games aginst poor def, we shoudlnt get mad about innocent fool
Grizz
09-18-2005, 10:10 AM
If you watch Jones and see his vision, quickness, speed and strength you can tell he is a special player.
:hammer:
We have a winner.
JJ has great stats for a "first" year back (he's only really played 8 games). But it's the qualities he shows as a running back that has everyone labeling him as great when he hasn't actually reached that level yet.
After this year I suspect there will be no doubt about how good a back he really is.
The30YardSlant
09-18-2005, 10:49 AM
Well, he ran for 93 yards and a TD against the 2nd best run defense in football. If he did that every game, he will still end up with 1,488 yards and 16 TDs. I'll take thatr all day, every day.
Future
09-18-2005, 10:54 AM
the bears defense wasnt terrible either
burmafrd
09-18-2005, 10:55 AM
as regards RUNNING JJ is right there in the top 10 NOW. Its the rest of the package that needs more work, and he is improving both as a blocker and as a receiver. I do not think he will ever be as good as LT or Priest as a receiver, but he will be just as good at everything else. Once he gets a crack at some of the weaker D's he will certainly rack up the yds, but getting 80-90 against TOP D's consistently- which he is ALREADY doing- THAT is the mark of the top backs. Now I am waiting for him to light up one of the TOP D's and that will be his official welcome to the great backs area.
ihatedallas.com
09-18-2005, 10:55 AM
I'd say he's better than average w/ the potential to be very good.
dargonking999
09-18-2005, 11:03 AM
I'd say he's better than average w/ the potential to be very good.
i'm hoping that name of yours is a joke......it is right?
roughneck266
09-18-2005, 11:14 AM
It ain't no joke have a look see at the link in his sig.
dargonking999
09-18-2005, 11:15 AM
It ain't no joke have a look see at the link in his sig.
Wow, and he said something good about it, surprising.
ihatedallas.com
09-18-2005, 11:24 AM
Just b/c I'm not a Cowboys fan - doesn't mean I can't be objective. Frankly, when you guys picked up JJ last year - I thought the Tuna was off his rocker.
Now, I believe he made a good pick. JJ has looked good. He's the real deal and has good potential.
You want to know who I'm really scared of? That Ware kid. He's a freak. Maybe that is why Gibbs pulled Ramsey - Ware would have smushed him in the pocket.
....as for my name - I grew up as a Redskin fan in Arlington, TX for 11 years......elementary thru college. I have issues.
Hope for a good game on MNF - no injuries.
Natedawg44
09-18-2005, 11:26 AM
If you watch Jones and see his vision, quickness, speed and strength you can tell he is a special player.
Right now he is an average pass catcher and blocker but the rest of his game is top 10 in the league at his position.
He's a better player than Clinton Portis for instance because he is stronger, with better vision.
Ill drink the Kool Aid as much as the next guy. I hate to give a Redskin props either. But lets let Julius get a 1000 yard season under his belt before we say he's better than a 1500 yard back in his prime like Portis.
dargonking999
09-18-2005, 11:27 AM
Just b/c I'm not a Cowboys fan - doesn't mean I can't be objective. Frankly, when you guys picked up JJ last year - I thought the Tuna was off his rocker.
Now, I believe he made a good pick. JJ has looked good. He's the real deal and has good potential.
You want to know who I'm really scared of? That Ware kid. He's a freak. Maybe that is why Gibbs pulled Ramsey - Ware would have smushed him in the pocket.
....as for my name - I grew up as a Redskin fan in Arlington, TX for 11 years......elementary thru college. I have issues.
Hope for a good game on MNF - no injuries.
Well you have to understand we dont run across alot of skin fans who are civil over here, i thinkthere are maybe 2 or 3, but great to have you here
ihatedallas.com
09-18-2005, 11:32 AM
Thank you kindly. The few times I've stopped in - people have been more than cordial....even w/ my obnoxious name.
Off to root for the 9ers pulling off an upset over the Iggles - I'm sure we can all agree on that one.
adbutcher
09-18-2005, 11:36 AM
Health will be the determining factor in the end but his tools screams elite RB, time will tell.
joseephuss
09-19-2005, 07:52 AM
To me, the most impressive game for Julius was against Balitmore. That defense stuffs the run. His stats weren't great, but he gave the team a semblence of a running game and that was without any support from the passing game.
Someone already mentioned it, but the Bears have a good defense and he went for 150 against them.
I was impressed with last weeks game against another top run defense. His running opened up the passing game. He had a couple of good runs called back on penalties.
ravidubey
09-19-2005, 08:11 AM
At this point after 9 games in his pro-career I think giving him any label is a bit unfair, "Great", "Averge", "Good"-- whatever. I think it can be said the guy is potentially outstanding-- potentially. But he has a long way to go to cement that position. He has the tools, that I think he's proven but he has to do it on the field week after week for at least a couple seasons before we give him the title of "great".
Stop being so cautious; JJ is a very good running back. You can usually tell right away; just look as Willis McGahee-- has hit 100+ yards something like 9 of 13 games played. Sorry, but the kid is special.
Ditto Cadillac Williams-- there was a reason he was starting at Auburn.
Doomsday101
09-19-2005, 08:14 AM
Stop being so cautious; JJ is a very good running back. You can usually tell right away; just look as Willis McGahee-- has hit 100+ yards something like 9 of 13 games played. Sorry, but the kid is special.
Ditto Cadillac Williams-- there was a reason he was starting at Auburn.
I agree with you. It is not hard to tell that Jones is one of the top backs in the NFL today
VACowboy
09-19-2005, 08:23 AM
Right now he is an average pass catcher and blocker but the rest of his game is top 10 in the league at his position.
JJ may not be a great receiver yet but he is great in blitz pickup.
Other than his quickness and the instinctiveness with which he runs, I think Julius' finest attribute as a runner is patience. The way he sets up blockers can be beautiful to watch.
Intrepid
09-19-2005, 08:24 AM
JJ needs 88 yards to get his first 1,000 yards. Hopefully this will be the first milestone of many to come. If he can get more involved in the passing game and continue to block well, he'll be a complete back. Also, the kid is stronger this year, so he'll break more tackles and avoid injuries. Come on, Cowboy fans, smile!!
VACowboy
09-19-2005, 08:27 AM
Stop being so cautious; JJ is a very good running back. You can usually tell right away; just look as Willis McGahee-- has hit 100+ yards something like 9 of 13 games played. Sorry, but the kid is special.
Ditto Cadillac Williams-- there was a reason he was starting at Auburn.
I couldn't agree more. You don't even have to look at stats to see it. Anyone watching Julius making DBs look silly knows he's got "it." Download "Hotstepper," watch it and be objective. (shrug)
chicago JK
09-19-2005, 08:38 AM
I have no issue with ranking Julius as the 4th best back in the division right now...only because he hasn't proven he can do it for a full year yet. With that being said i wouldn't trade him for any other back in the division right now (Especially when you consider Portis' large salary and Tiki's age). I would guess most Dallas fans would agree with me.
Funxva
09-19-2005, 08:39 AM
From Extremeskins.com
julius jones has the potential.. i hate the word potential!!! its over rated cause its unproven....everybody has potential if they give it all there might!!! julius jones is not close to clinton.. clinton right now is the closest to barry sanders.. but noone is even close to sanders.. lets just say clinton marks his own name...
Oh good lord.
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