A few thoughts from trickblue...

[trickblue]

There is an old saying that if you forget history, you are doomed to repeat it...


Week after week, countless NFL teams repeat history by installing the prevent defense only to lose via the soft zone. We were no different last night.
We dominated this game outside of three plays. The two TD's and the Brunell run on third and long.
Drew Bledsoe still has it.
Flozell is getting an unfair rep as a "holder". Both of those calls against him were very questionable. That being said, he needs to be extra careful.
Was Cortez first FG a miss? it looked like it went straight over the left goal post and they only showed it once. It could have been a bad angle for me.
San Francisco is in trouble next week. A win last night could have made Dallas a bit complacent. This "defeat snatched from the jaws of victory" last night should teach Dallas to finish games.
This team is pretty solid on defense/offense.
Julius would have had around 100 yards had not a few runs been called back.
Tyson Thompson needs more touches
This team will be a tough opponent for any team later this year.
We have things to work on, but we are going in the right direction.
Don't take this defeat too hard, we did the same thing to them in the second game last year. It's ONE loss.
Overall Payton did a good job of calling plays, but like the rooks, he will make some mistakes and needs experience as well.
I try very much to be a realist and I really like the direction this team is moving in.

[Dave_in-NC]

Well said. And we werent playing a low ranking Defense last night either.

[burmafrd]

Agree with most of this; Zimmer and BP made some bad personel calls late in the game- not making sure Moss was covered the critical mistake. Some play calling was bad as well. The holding thing on the Hotel has to be addressed- he needs to be put on the rack. But the O line as a whole played better. We made progress in several areas- but still lost. THAT hurts.

[SultanOfSix]

Nice post. I agree with everything.

[VACowboy]

Both of those holds called on Adams were bogus. The first one, he just pancaked a guy.

I couldn't agree more with you, trick.

[dguinta1]

Agreed.

[BlueStar22]

Is it just me, or did the missed FG look like it went over the top of the upright? I guess that means no good. They only showed the replay once.

[Dallas4ever]

Good post. Glad to see someone that someone else could see the forest. :wink2:

[SteveOS]

Just quoting Trickblue here, along w/ my thoughts.


There is an old saying that if you forget history, you are doomed to repeat it...


Week after week, countless NFL teams repeat history by installing the prevent defense only to lose via the soft zone. We were no different last night.

While I agree, RW should be held responsible for letting Moss get deep TWICE. He is a great run stopper and tackling machine, but his cover skills just don't cut it. He should have picked off that one pass, but to let Moss go by him TWICE, is well....unexusable. RW should know better by now.


We dominated this game outside of three plays. The two TD's and the Brunell run on third and long.

Agreed, but you can't take ANY plays off in a 60 minute game. I'm so frustrated.


Drew Bledsoe still has it.

He does still have it, but he sure does look awful throwing short hops late in the game. If he'd square up and let her rip, instead of throwing off balance, the game would have been over earlier. He didn't step into his throws and it cost us some key first downs.


Flozell is getting an unfair rep as a "holder". Both of those calls against him were very questionable. That being said, he needs to be extra careful.


I'd call those holding calls complete and utter BS, but that's how it goes sometimes. You win some, you lose some.


Was Cortez first FG a miss? it looked like it went straight over the left goal post and they only showed it once. It could have been a bad angle for me.


Yes, it was a miss. Very close, but a miss nonetheless. He scared the hell out of me every time he lined up. If it came down to the last second FG, which it didn't, I had no faith in him making it.


San Francisco is in trouble next week. A win last night could have made Dallas a bit complacent. This "defeat snatched from the jaws of victory" last night should teach Dallas to finish games.


It should help bolster the awareness for the young guys, but honestly, the young guys played great last night. The veterans needed to step up late, and they didn't.


This team is pretty solid on defense/offense.


Pretty solid won't cut it. They need to be SOLID for 4 quarters. I think when Fujita is ready the defense will be even more improved.


Julius would have had around 100 yards had not a few runs been called back.


IMHO, they should have ran a few reverses, fake reverses. That defense is AGGRESSIVE, they should have made them pay for it.


Tyson Thompson needs more touches


He needs more touches on sweeps, he can't do much up the gut. Hell, JJ couldn't do much up the gut last night. That 3rd down call after the timeout to setup a FG was an absolute disgrace.


This team will be a tough opponent for any team later this year.


Agreed.


We have things to work on, but we are going in the right direction.


Agreed. And to lose like that will cause them to work that much harder to get there.


Don't take this defeat too hard, we did the same thing to them in the second game last year. It's ONE loss.


Man, this one is tough. We DOMINATED for 56 minutes. I personally thought it was going to be a shutout, then RW in a COVER 2 let's Moss get by him TWICE!!!!!!! ARGH....I'm still fuming about it.


Overall Payton did a good job of calling plays, but like the rooks, he will make some mistakes and needs experience as well.


Yes, he definitely made mistakes. I thought the play calling was a little too conservative at the end. But that is Parcells football, what can you do. It has won him a ton of games, we just fell short this time.


I try very much to be a realist and I really like the direction this team is moving in.


I'm very confident in this team, it's just 1 game, but it hurts....REALLY REALLY bad.




It's my take, others will disagree, but man....TOUGH loss. :(

[canters]

nice post!

[morasp]

Agree with those thoughts and add one more. We still haven't replaced Darren Woodson.

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Flozell is getting an unfair rep as a "holder". Both of those calls against him were very questionable. That being said, he needs to be extra careful.

I must say after watching a couple weeks of both college and pro football that holding, as we all once knew it, is gone. There is holding on every play. It is called arbitrarily. I think that the general view of the officials is it must be very blatent to ever get a call or they just do not call it. Didn't one of the Flozell calls negate a first down and make it something like 3rd and 20?

[IndianaCowboyFan]

Pretty solid won't cut it. They need to be SOLID for 4 quarters. I think when Fujita is ready the defense will be even more improved.


I noticed he was in on several plays last night and looked good. I think he was a great pickup.

[InmanRoshi]

Parcells and Zimmer deserve no blame for those two TD's. They had the right defensive call. Roy let the guy get behind him twice. Inexcusable.

[Qwickdraw]

My breakdown is as follows:

We played a good game. Not great, but good.
We clearly dominated the game aside from 2 blown plays.
They did not have one sack, one INT, one fumble... nothing.
I usually don't mention officiating but we got the shaft on the Adams holding penalty and a huge roughing the passer call when they were throwing out of their endzone.
We shoulda ran more towards the end of the game.
Cortez sucks... cut him now.

[Doomsday101]

Parcells and Zimmer deserve no blame for those two TD's. They had the right defensive call. Roy let the guy get behind him twice. Inexcusable.

I agree. Safety can't allow the deep man to get behind him and Williams did it twice. Up to that point Williams had a great game going but made a couple of big mistakes at the end.

[31WillHammerU]

Parcells and Zimmer deserve no blame for those two TD's. They had the right defensive call. Roy let the guy get behind him twice. Inexcusable.

So did we have the right defense called for a 25 yard scamper by an OLD Vick-like QB. :laugh2:

My point is.... we should have never been in that positon to begin with.

[CrazyCowboy]

There is an old saying that if you forget history, you are doomed to repeat it...

Week after week, countless NFL teams repeat history by installing the prevent defense only to lose via the soft zone. We were no different last night.
We dominated this game outside of three plays. The two TD's and the Brunell run on third and long.
Drew Bledsoe still has it.
Flozell is getting an unfair rep as a "holder". Both of those calls against him were very questionable. That being said, he needs to be extra careful.
Was Cortez first FG a miss? it looked like it went straight over the left goal post and they only showed it once. It could have been a bad angle for me.
San Francisco is in trouble next week. A win last night could have made Dallas a bit complacent. This "defeat snatched from the jaws of victory" last night should teach Dallas to finish games.
This team is pretty solid on defense/offense.
Julius would have had around 100 yards had not a few runs been called back.
Tyson Thompson needs more touches
This team will be a tough opponent for any team later this year.
We have things to work on, but we are going in the right direction.
Don't take this defeat too hard, we did the same thing to them in the second game last year. It's ONE loss.
Overall Payton did a good job of calling plays, but like the rooks, he will make some mistakes and needs experience as well.
I try very much to be a realist and I really like the direction this team is moving in.


Perfect post....my thoughts exactly......I was just too sad to put in words!

The only point you make that I need to work on is the following:

"Don't take this defeat too hard, we did the same thing to them in the second game last year. It's ONE loss."

[godofwar]

OS, on Moss' first touchdown, RW was covering the slot receiver who was running a post underneath the wide out. RW recognized and turned to help, but didn't get there in time.

I will agree with you on the second one however, that he was too slow in turning around to run with Moss.

[dallasblue05]

Ya know, I have to agree with most of the points Trickblue made, however, I dont really blame Roy for the first TD, it was the corner who got beat by a double move and when roy saw it, he tried to get back there but couldnt.......the 2nd, there is no excuse. I thought overall the play calling was mediocre. We should have attacked them a little more in the first half, they were biting on EVERYTHING, and I think Payton was too nervous to call anything. I bet it was BP that got in is arse at halftime and told him to give us a litlle excitement. I think Derw's arm may have been tired there towards the end of the game, JMO. All in all, I'm happy with how our team played, especially the O-line. We'll get the skins in their house later, they'll wish they didnt have to play us again after that game.

[Danny White]

There is an old saying that if you forget history, you are doomed to repeat it...


Week after week, countless NFL teams repeat history by installing the prevent defense only to lose via the soft zone. We were no different last night.
We dominated this game outside of three plays. The two TD's and the Brunell run on third and long.
Drew Bledsoe still has it.
Flozell is getting an unfair rep as a "holder". Both of those calls against him were very questionable. That being said, he needs to be extra careful.
Was Cortez first FG a miss? it looked like it went straight over the left goal post and they only showed it once. It could have been a bad angle for me.
San Francisco is in trouble next week. A win last night could have made Dallas a bit complacent. This "defeat snatched from the jaws of victory" last night should teach Dallas to finish games.
This team is pretty solid on defense/offense.
Julius would have had around 100 yards had not a few runs been called back.
Tyson Thompson needs more touches
This team will be a tough opponent for any team later this year.
We have things to work on, but we are going in the right direction.
Don't take this defeat too hard, we did the same thing to them in the second game last year. It's ONE loss.
Overall Payton did a good job of calling plays, but like the rooks, he will make some mistakes and needs experience as well.
I try very much to be a realist and I really like the direction this team is moving in.

It's so nice when the adults decide to post. :bravo:

I tried looking at the site last night, but the whining and moaning from the lurker contingent was too much to bear. They come out of the woodwork like Catholics on Christmas.

I was very very bitter about the end of the game last night, but really there are some good things to take away from that game. I thought the game-plan and execution were very solid -- B to B+ material -- right up until those final minutes where the team and coaches checked out and earned a solid "F".

We played a conservative game plan and it worked to perfection until the very end.

It's not often that you have a game where you have 7 or 8 plays, any ONE of which are executed differently, will salt away the game. But that was very true for this game.

Anyway, time to move on. We've won plenty of games like this over the recent years against the Skins and we will win plenty more in the future.

This is a short week, so the team needs to put this behind them and focus on the Niners.

This is a good team and it needs to forget about this game and move on. The NFC is very weak, and there's no reason we shouldn't make the playoffs.

Thanks for the post Trickblue. It's good to read that some still have perspective... although I could have guessed which posters would still be grounded.

[btcutter]

Agree with most of this; Zimmer and BP made some bad personel calls late in the game- not making sure Moss was covered the critical mistake. Some play calling was bad as well. The holding thing on the Hotel has to be addressed- he needs to be put on the rack. But the O line as a whole played better. We made progress in several areas- but still lost. THAT hurts.


This loss will enlighten the coaches to change their nickle philosophy late in the game. We need to match up our CB on WR. I know why Newman is in the slot but our top two CB should be like glues to opponents top WRs esp late in the game instead of Newman on their TE or 4th WR in the slot. Perhaps, Gibbs caught Parcelll with his pants down.

[DWAREZ]

Good post bro :)

[Hollywood Henderson]

Good post trick...
But I have to add, you CAN"T allow the other teams fastest WR to run down the field unchecked...

You CAN'T allow a teams QB to take all the time for that play to develop TWICE...

We had much better planned blitzes then in the past early on...Stunts WERE working, then we go passive arse CRAP again & LOSE...

The 4th 1/4 saw almost all JUST 4 man pass rushing leaving NO doubt where our rush was coming from....

Ware left almost all game to battle against a NFL Vet as a DE...WRONG!

We had old man brunell on the ropes & let him "Rope a DOPE" & knock us out!

I don't know if the blame goes on zimmy or Parcells, but thats not effective or well coached at all on D...

But as Parcells says, the offense had a chance(s) to ice the game too...

I also agree, Thompson should have gotten some carries wide when their D was gassed...

[calico]

Excelllent post Trickblue. I feel the same way about the team and was guilty of looking ahead on the schedule and putting Dallas at 2-0 after Roy's sack...guess the games really are never over.

I was also questioning the missed fieldgoal and wanted another view of it, it reminded me of that one in college a few years ago that was good and called no-good.

I was VERY happy with the offense, the line most of all. Bledsoe had all day to throw the ball. My only complaint was that they did not take more shots down the field before it was too late to try to get the running game freed up a bit.

I laughed to myself when the skins scored their first TD thinking we could never just win one with ease and then that they were going to turn it one us for once. I then knew it was going to happen when Flozzel's iffy holding call negated a key first down and they got the ball back with that much time.

We stole one that they dominated last year and they stole it right back this year. We get another shot at them and still have 14 games left in the season.

I think this will be a key game that Parcells will remind them of all season to challenge them to stay sharp until the final gun. Hopefully the team will show heart after this one and not fold like they did after the Steelers game last year.

[RedskinsFanInTX]

My breakdown is as follows:

We played a good game. Not great, but good.
We clearly dominated the game aside from 2 blown plays.
They did not have one sack, one INT, one fumble... nothing.
I usually don't mention officiating but we got the shaft on the Adams holding penalty and a huge roughing the passer call when they were throwing out of their endzone.
We shoulda ran more towards the end of the game.
Cortez sucks... cut him now.

When you only score 13 points against anybody it's hard to say you dominated the game. Your defense played a solid game against a weak offence. The Redskins may not have had a sack or a turnover, but, other than one big play they kept the Cowboy offence in check. This Redskin defense is a solid unit that played well enough to keep it within reach and give the Redskins a chance to win.

[SultanOfSix]

When you only score 13 points against anybody it's hard to say you dominated the game. Your defense played a solid game against a weak offence. The Redskins may not have had a sack or a turnover, but, other than one big play they kept the Cowboy offence in check. This Redskin defense is a solid unit that played well enough to keep it within reach and give the Redskins a chance to win.



Funny. I hear Redskins fans here in DC saying they dominated the Bears 9-7.

[RedskinsFanInTX]

Funny. I hear Redskins fans here in DC saying they dominated the Bears 9-7.
I'm not in DC. I saw the game against the Bears. Our offense stunk and our defense won the game against the Bears.

[trickblue]

I'm not in DC. I saw the game against the Bears. Our offense stunk and our defense won the game against the Bears.



They sing a different tune at the official board of the Washington Redskins... ;)