Raider fans expect to destroy Dallas.....WOW

[DallasDomination]

SO according to them we'll lose by 30+......Over confident little turds.



Go visit some of their forums and read some of the cocky ignorant comments they have to say.

Idiots > Raider fans

[Sarge]

SO according to them we'll lose by 30+......Over confident little turds.



Go visit some of their forums and read some of the cocky ignorant comments they have to say.

Idiots > Raider fans

Is this the 0-3 Raiders you're talking about?

Just checking.

;)

[Billy Bullocks]

0-3 yes...bad, no. They lost to all good teams so far. Suspect defense. We better throw on em all day.

[Sarge]

0-3 yes...bad, no. They lost to all good teams so far. Suspect defense. We better throw on em all day.

Bad? Yes. They have NO defense whatsoever - none. They give up A TON of points a game and have for a while now.

Can they beat us? Absolutely, but that doesn't mean they're good. They have one of, if not the, worst defenses in the league.

Having said all that, they DO score points on offense. Therein lies the danger.

[dbair1967]

the 0-3 Raiders coached by Norv Turner

Turner's coached against Mike Zimmer twice...in those two games we've given up like 900 yds of offense and 72 pts...we made Doug Flutie and Jay Fiedler look like hall of fame QB's in their prime

we're probably going to lose bad in Oakland...I just cant see this defense being able to do anything with their offense...the only reason it might not be a total arse whipping on the scoreboard is our offense should be able to move the ball and score on them...but I wont be surprised of Oakland hangs 35+ on this defense

David

[Sarge]

the 0-3 Raiders coached by Norv Turner

Turner's coached against Mike Zimmer twice...in those two games we've given up like 900 yds of offense and 72 pts...we made Doug Flutie and Jay Fiedler look like hall of fame QB's in their prime

we're probably going to lose bad in Oakland...I just cant see this defense being able to do anything with their offense...the only reason it might not be a total arse whipping on the scoreboard is our offense should be able to move the ball and score on them...but I wont be surprised of Oakland hangs 35+ on this defense

David

Admittdly - I don't like the matchup either. Anytime we face Moss, I don't like the matchup but L. Jordan scares me just as much.

We'll have to be on top of our game on BOTH sides of the ball. We can't be monkeyfarting around like we did this weekend.

[Scotman]

I'm less concerned about Turner than I am Moss. Moss steps it up against us like no other player we face. He has eaten us alive many times.

But I do not believe in discounting the record. No excuses for losses or wins. They have lost 3 games because everyone they have played has outscored them. Period. There are no what-ifs, no coulda, no shoulda, and no woulda. I said the same thing last week whne we lost to the Skins. When you lose, you lost. You were not good enough to overcome whatever it was and therefore, you get an "L".

Further, there's no "luck" in a win. You did enough to keep the other team from scoring more points. Anything said to the contrary is just fodder. We were no more lucky yesterday that Washington was last week. We scored more points so we get the "W" this week.

We are 2-1 and they are 0-3. I don't know if we'll win, but we are winning more than they are right now.

They're fans and they can see some holes in our game. The holes they see just happen to be in the areas that they have some serious talent. That talent I'm talking about tears us a new one everytime he plays us. But they are also assuming that all of their holes will all be fixed by the time they play us. It's what fans do.

We'll know next weekend.

[Woods]

Maybe we'll get a bit lucky in that the Raiders confidence may be soft after starting the year 0-3?

The problem is that if the Raiders go 0-4, they also know their season is over. (That said, I don't see the Raiders making any waves this year anyway.)

We have to sort out our defense quickly.

[DallasDomination]

I cant wait for the game.



We almost laid an Egg today, but I'm confident we raise our game play to another level against the gayders.

[Dallas4ever]

Admittdly - I don't like the matchup either. Anytime we face Moss, I don't like the matchup but L. Jordan scares me just as much.



Sarge if I had to pick my poison it would definitely be Jordan. Moss running up and down the field catching balls is very demoralizing for any defense and ignites the fans. You can bet that Oakland will throw it deep early and often. We have a good enough offense to control the ball and keep Moss and co. off the field. I hope that's the plan.

[DoomsDayD]

This is an extremely scarey game against Oak. The way we are letting the deep balls get by us i am having nightmares about MOSS.

[Sarge]

Sarge if I had to pick my poison it would definitely be Jordan. Moss running up and down the field catching balls is very demoralizing for any defense and ignites the fans. You can bet that Oakland will throw it deep early and often. We have a good enough offense to control the ball and keep Moss and co. off the field. I hope that's the plan.

Can't disagree with that. My point is though, if we can't stop Jordan, we'll have to put more guys in the box, then...........................Moss.

We have to stop Jordan w/out loading up, up front.

[Tio]

Put newman on moss all game, and have a safety keep an eye on him too. THat is the best and only answer we can provide imo.

[SteveOS]

I don't expect Dallas to lose by 30, but I am certainly not as confident about winning this game as I was 2 weeks ago. If this team wins a squeaker against the 9'ers, it could be very scary w/ the deep ball threat of the 2 - headed combo of Porter and Moss. Moss ALWAYS kills Dallas, it could very well be a shootout, they won't lose by 30 tho, lol.

[bigcrob]

Lamont Jordan is overrated, we will stop the run and finally get a win against Randy Moss. The blitz is the key to getting to Kerry Collins. Remember when Norv coached against Zimmer; Zim was using the 4-3 defense that Norv use to practice against with Troy, Emmitt and Mike. So, basically Norv knew the weakness. We are a 3-4 team now. I like the fact that Sean Payton knows Kerry Collins weakness to help Zimmer and the defense. We win by at least 10.

[MichaelWinicki]

Admittdly - I don't like the matchup either. Anytime we face Moss, I don't like the matchup but L. Jordan scares me just as much.

We'll have to be on top of our game on BOTH sides of the ball. We can't be monkeyfarting around like we did this weekend.


The matchup sucks Sarge.

Remember what we said prior to the Minny game last year?

We could take a hellacious beating if we don't do something about our coverages.

Morning BTW. :)

[Sarge]

The matchup sucks Sarge.

Remember what we said prior to the Minny game last year?

We could take a hellacious beating if we don't do something about our coverages.

Morning BTW. :)

Morning Winks. Yep - I do remember what we said last year and we were right.

Once again, bad matchup. Let's hope we're wrong (but we never are). ;)

G-morning.

:)

[Sarge]

Lamont Jordan is overrated, we will stop the run and finally get a win against Randy Moss. The blitz is the key to getting to Kerry Collins. Remember when Norv coached against Zimmer; Zim was using the 4-3 defense that Norv use to practice against with Troy, Emmitt and Mike. So, basically Norv knew the weakness. We are a 3-4 team now. I like the fact that Sean Payton knows Kerry Collins weakness to help Zimmer and the defense. We win by at least 10.

I disagree with that. - L. Jordan is hardly overrated. If anything, IMO, he is underrated. We best not overlook him when prepping for Moss or you'll find out how right I am.

JMO/FWIW.

[Phoenix-Talon]

Certainly the 3-headed monster in Collins, Moss, and Jordan are elements that must be dealt with to establish a basic strategy in the Cowboys versus Raiders
battle next week.

The team with fewer mistakes on both sides of the ball will emerge early leaders, but defense will ultimately decide who walks away victoriously. Cowboys must not get behind like in the 9ers game -- Raiders will capitalize. This may turn out to be one of the hardest fought games you'll have this year.

Good hunting.

[Dallas4ever]

Lamont Jordan is overrated, we will stop the run and finally get a win against Randy Moss. The blitz is the key to getting to Kerry Collins. Remember when Norv coached against Zimmer; Zim was using the 4-3 defense that Norv use to practice against with Troy, Emmitt and Mike. So, basically Norv knew the weakness. We are a 3-4 team now. I like the fact that Sean Payton knows Kerry Collins weakness to help Zimmer and the defense. We win by at least 10.

Lamont Jordan is a good runner and he can hurt you big time. The 10 point win sounds good but did you watch the game yesterday? We've got problems covering people and we're on the road against Randy Moss and Joey Porter. We can hope to outscore them but they will make plays against us. They'll make them running and passing because offensively their a very dangerous team, playing at home and haven't won yet. :cool:

[BulletBob]

I cant wait for the game.



We almost laid an Egg today, but I'm confident we raise our game play to another level against the gayders.

:muttley:

[Martice]

The fact that we faced the Chargers with LT and the fact that the Raiders use Jordan in a similar way, could serve as a good blueprint on how to contain him. The real test of this game is if the front four can get pressure on Collins. Also if the defense can keep the running game in check without having to pull the safeties up for support. If we can't stop the running game with the defensive front seven, we are in trouble when trying to contain Porter and Moss.

[kmd24]

The key is getting to the QB. Collins, like Culpepper, will turn the ball over under pressure. Moss had some big games (statistically) in Minn and they still lost because of turnovers.

[chicago JK]

If I was a Raider fan, I would be pretty confident as well. Lets be honest, we will probably be the worst opponent Oakland has played thru the first four weeks of the season (if you consider KC for real). Oakland is a stupid and weak minded team but they are due for a solid game. I think the key for the raider game is ball control offense by us and smart, discplined play throughout the game. The Raiders kill themselves with stupid penalties and turnovers all the time. If we can keep the game close in the 4th quarter, maybe we can get one of those breaks and run with it.

I think it will be a very difficult game to win and expect a similar charge the winless Chargers got last night at home. Withstanding the opening high is also important. We can't get behind two scores like we did against the Niners.

[Alexander]

I don't expect Dallas to lose by 30, but I am certainly not as confident about winning this game as I was 2 weeks ago. If this team wins a squeaker against the 9'ers, it could be very scary w/ the deep ball threat of the 2 - headed combo of Porter and Moss. Moss ALWAYS kills Dallas, it could very well be a shootout, they won't lose by 30 tho, lol.

Moss has always killed the Cowboys, and I have no doubt he will do so again.

But I don't fear Porter. Either they are utilizing him wrong or he just is running sloppy patterns. He consistently misses the sticks and is not a threat after the catch. Jordan looks like what he was with the Jets--a backup. Their TE looks pretty good and we have always struggled against good TEs, especially in the redzone.

I expect a very close game. These are the 2005 Cowboys. We should be very tired of close games very soon.

[Champsheart]

SO according to them we'll lose by 30+......Over confident little turds.



Go visit some of their forums and read some of the cocky ignorant comments they have to say.

Idiots > Raider fans

I know a lot of Raider Fans, a lot.

There is one thing you have to know about them, they always think they will win. They could be 0-14 tand hey will believe they will destroy the next team they play. That is just how they are. In their minds they are always the best team.

[Derinyar]

I think its simple, don't go crazy on offense and control the tempo of the game. Don't panic if the Raiders hit a long play just come back and play the offense we want to. We should be able to run the ball down their throat almost all day and their secondary is bad other than Woodson.

[Redball Express]

SO according to them we'll lose by 30+......Over confident little turds.



Go visit some of their forums and read some of the cocky ignorant comments they have to say.

Idiots > Raider fans

Randy Moss.

He's killed us every game he's ever played against us.

He's got our number and don't think for a minute that a team that is 0-3 and desparate to get a win won't throw the ball to him 30 times in a game to get it done on us.

I have to tell you, I have no idea how we are going to win this game.

Logic would say we are going to have to put on track suits to win this. It's liable to be another long distance scoring race this week to the finish. I'm not sure we can do that every week and get away with it.

I'm sure that BP is going to want to run the ball 40 times on Sunday to try to play ball control and run the clock to keep Moss on the sidelines.

Somebody needs to give JuJo some pickle juice before this game. He's going to need it.

:eek:

parcellswaterboy

[pgreptom]

You know, I don't exactly think we'll hang with them, especially with Randy Moss, Porter, Jordan...

I don't think we'll win it; and I don't think it'll be pretty. I don't blame them.

[Cowboy Junkie]

I also think Jordan is over rated . I watched the Raider game yesterday and Jordan looks like he is running up hill in mud. there were plenty of holes for him to hit and he was just too slow to get there.

On the Moss thing if memory serves correct. Didn't we shut him down last time we faced him?

I think this will be a tough game and could result in a loss.
They do have an excellent passing game and if we give Collins time he will take advantage.
Courtney Alexander is the one I worry about the most .Guy is like 6'7" and looks like a reciver out there. I just don't know what Linebacker we have that can cover him.

Raiders defense stinks with little hope of improving.
Bledsoe should have all day.


Dallas 31
Raiders 27

[VACowboy]

I don't expect Dallas to lose by 30, but I am certainly not as confident about winning this game as I was 2 weeks ago. If this team wins a squeaker against the 9'ers, it could be very scary w/ the deep ball threat of the 2 - headed combo of Porter and Moss. Moss ALWAYS kills Dallas, it could very well be a shootout, they won't lose by 30 tho, lol.


I think if the first three weeks of this NFL season have proven anything it's that this week is no predictor for next.

[Asklesko]

Yeah, that'd happen if they stopped getting called back on every touchdown for holding or some stuff like that, but that's not going to happen.

[lspain1]

Can't disagree with that. My point is though, if we can't stop Jordan, we'll have to put more guys in the box, then...........................Moss.

We have to stop Jordan w/out loading up, up front.


You might have pick your poison in this game Sarge. What would you like, Moss with 8 catches for 135 yards and 2 TDs or Jordan with 125 yards and 2 TDs? I think I'd take Jordan in this game and some improved secondary play.

[CowboyManDan]

Double Moss all day. Bump him, make him adjust his routes, and have someone helping all the time. He'll still have a good game I'm sure, but let just not let Moss beat us himself. I'd rather take my chances with one less in the front against Jordan with our rotating defensive front.

[31smackdown]

I think Bp will try to play ball control, keep it close and try to win it on turnovers. The issue we run it to when BP plays it this way is that we have an 11 play 70 yard drive and take 7 minutes off the clock and then the Raider will have a two play 80 yard drive that takes 1 minute off the clock. This team with Moss reminds me a lot of the Vikings a few years ago. The only saving factor here is that Kerry Collins can turn into complete trash in a hurry and his deep ball isn't as lofty as it should be for Moss, allowing the db to make a play.

We will definitely need to improve on our tackling out in the flat, because they love to swing it out to Jordan to get him outside with some momentum. I think Wittn has a chance to have a big game in the middle.

[dbair1967]

The key is getting to the QB. .

which Zimmer has proven without question he cant do

Collins threw for a bunch of yards yesterday against a good defense and a great coordinator...he is going to tear this defense a new one

and everyone keeps mentioning Moss and Jordan, but they keep forgetting Jerry Porter...he's better than Santana Moss and anyone the Niners have, and we couldnt cover any of them

Norv isnt much as a head coach, but as an offensive coordinator he is a HUGE mismatch against Zimmer

David

[Alexander]

Norv isnt much as a head coach, but as an offensive coordinator he is a HUGE mismatch against Zimmer

David

I don't know if you are thinking of Norv with Michael, Troy and Emmitt or the Norv that coached the Raiders yesterday.

From what I saw after a great opening drive was pretty poor playcalling. The Raiders could have easily put the Eagles away several times early in the game, but kept running an ineffective Jordan and never took shots with Moss. The Eagles were on the ropes until the 6:00 minute mark of the first half and they were allowed to come back. Norv has not had a killer instinct with either Washington or Oakland, so I fail to see how he is a huge mismatch for Parcells--I mean Zimmer.

[Hollywood Henderson]

I agree Cowboymandan...
I would have Henry man up with Moss & bump & run him with S coverage over the top...Newman can single his guy...

David is also right, if we don't make changes they will kill us deep...

Our zimmy nickle D passive & predictable 4 man rush confuses no one and Collin's has the arm strength & speed at WR to kill us if we don't change things up...

[dbair1967]

I don't know if you are thinking of Norv with Michael, Troy and Emmitt or the Norv that coached the Raiders yesterday.

From what I saw after a great opening drive was pretty poor playcalling. The Raiders could have easily put the Eagles away several times early in the game, but kept running an ineffective Jordan and never took shots with Moss. The Eagles were on the ropes until the 6:00 minute mark of the first half and they were allowed to come back. Norv has not had a killer instinct with either Washington or Oakland, so I fail to see how he is a huge mismatch for Parcells--I mean Zimmer.

I guess you forgot the games where with lesser offensive talent (San Diego, Miami) he tore us to shreds...72 pts, 900 yds...

like I said, Turner vs Zimmer is a HUGE mismatch

David

[Alexander]

I guess you forgot the games where with lesser offensive talent (San Diego, Miami) he tore us to shreds...72 pts, 900 yds...

like I said, Turner vs Zimmer is a HUGE mismatch

David

I guess you forgot the defensive talent in those two games as well.

[Hoov]

I agree Cowboymandan...
I would have Henry man up with Moss & bump & run him with S coverage over the top...Newman can single his guy...

David is also right, if we don't make changes they will kill us deep...

Our zimmy nickle D passive & predictable 4 man rush confuses no one and Collin's has the arm strength & speed at WR to kill us if we don't change things up...

yeah, but when henry misses his bump, we are screwed for a deep td, Moss and our FS who ever that will be, going for a jump ball - forget it.

[Idgit]

Moss isn't close to the same player on grass as he is on turf.
If this team plays like it did for 3 quarters of the SD game, and for 3 1/2 quarters of the Skins game, we'll beat the Raiders handily.

I don't care about how good (or bad) the Niners were yesterday. Our star CB gave me flashbacks to last season, and we weren't sticking tackles anything like we did the first two weeks. We weren't as careful with the football. Those things will beat us against any ordinary team. I'm more concerned with those details than I am with the matchup this week.

That said, I could easily see us playing our most complete game of the year, after winning the rebound game this week.

[Hollywood Henderson]

Hoov: Good point, Henry was beaten once when he whiffed on his bump yesterday...But its still a better option then letting him free deep into his routes, at least the timing will still be off and we still have S help deep...

Moss doesn't like contact...Any...Henry will also have to tackle better then he did yesterday...I think he will..

[aceware94]

Anthony Henry needs to bump hard and get Moss out of his rythem(he shows up big against big playersie:TO.) and have S help deep. Leave Newman manned on the other side all day. He's way more confident this year and will keep the cathes to a minimum. The key to the whole ball game will be defensive pressure. If Zimmer sits back and gives Collins time in the pocket we lose big. If he throws in a a blitz about every 3-4 plays and they get to the QB I see a couple pics and some errant throws. The LB's will have to come up big, Oaklands's TE aint no joke. He may have a big game considering Norv's past w/ TE's. It's either a cowboy win 27-24ish or a Oakland win big 42-17.

[Vertigo_17]

I hope they don't put TNEW on Moss because Moss is like a foot taller than him. We need Henry on him to at least check him at the LOS. TNEW plays too far off and you can't let Moss get on his route uncontested.

It's going to be a long day no matter who we put on him.

[Hoov]

Hoov: Good point, Henry was beaten once when he whiffed on his bump yesterday...But its still a better option then letting him free deep into his routes, at least the timing will still be off and we still have S help deep...

Moss doesn't like contact...Any...Henry will also have to tackle better then he did yesterday...I think he will..

yeah, tackling was so bad, we gave them first downs on missed tackles so many times.

Iis probably easier to bump moss than cover him in space with a cushion, we just need to be ready cause with his height and lankiness he could jump past Henry with a swim move and be gone. Henry's not gonna win all those battles so someone better be there to pick up moss when he blows by henry.

I like that Henrys a physical guy and plays right on the wr, cause thats how i play db, but if you miss that first bump you better grab and hold moss or he's gone, Henry wont have the speed to catch up.

[dguinta1]

Our D has to go back to Tackling 101.

[TheSkaven]

Sorry guys, I'm usually a bright eyed optimist but we just don't match up well against this team. This very well could be a blow out.

The only positive note is that the line is Raiders -3 (which is for home field), so obviously the book makers think we stay in the game.

[Wolfpack]

Going to have to bring some different defesive looks for sure but I would bring heat up the middle hoping to keep Collins from stepping into those deep throws. The OLBs cover the quick slant and play contain on the ends. Lock up moss with Henry (Tn doesnt have the height) and play a mix of cover 2/3 while praying someone gets in the QBs face in about 4 seconds.

[GTiRacer06]

they're one of the best 0-3 teams i've seen in awhile.

with our defensive problems i'm affraid of seeing randy moss with 150+yds and 2tds by the end of the game...who knows, maybe more. If lloyd can light us up like he did, who knows what randy moss can do.

[Wolverine]

SO according to them we'll lose by 30+......Over confident little turds.



Go visit some of their forums and read some of the cocky ignorant comments they have to say.

Idiots > Raider fans


They wont win by 30 points. The game will come down to who has the ball last in a high scoring shoot out. No way our Defense can hold them to under 40 points. Mike Zimmer will make sure the Raiders get 40+. But the Raiders do not have a good pass defense.

Do not be surprised if the final score of this game is something like 52-49 or something like that.

I think if we can get at least 56 to 60 points on the board there might a chance our defense can hold out and we win the game.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

My prediction...it could go either way. Oakland has played 3 very good teams so far. They are not a bad team and they hung around with all those teams.

24-21 Oakland

[Canadian BoyzFan]

I like us to win in a shoot out......38-28. I am usually pretty conservative with my predictions, but have a good feeling about this game.

[ravidubey]

Lamont Jordan is not a franchise back-- repeat three thousand times. Oakland depends too much on intermediate to deep pass routes which suits their talent. One Dimensional == beaten in today's NFL.

[chinch]

lamont is mediocre.

our OC coached/rehabbed kerry collins

moss will beat us a few times, but we'll reciprocate.

"destroy" is laughable.

[DLCassidy]

I love reading predictions- some are right but usually the reasons are way off base. Having said that here's mine. The defense played a poor game yesterday. I blame some of that on the short week and the long trip west. We just looked slow out there. Poor tackling is a sign of fatigue so I think staying out there was a brilliant idea. The MNF game, other than 2 devastating plays, was a terrific defensive performance. And after watching the Bolts drop over 40 points on a solid Giants D I think our game 1 defensive performace was pretty darn good. I expect the D to bounce back this week. Moss will get his yards but make no mistake the pressure is squarely on the 0-3 team at home to win. We should be the looser team. I like the cardiac Cowboys again this week 27-24.

[GTiRacer06]

They wont win by 30 points. The game will come down to who has the ball last in a high scoring shoot out. No way our Defense can hold them to under 40 points. Mike Zimmer will make sure the Raiders get 40+. But the Raiders do not have a good pass defense.

Do not be surprised if the final score of this game is something like 52-49 or something like that.

I think if we can get at least 56 to 60 points on the board there might a chance our defense can hold out and we win the game.

I mean...are you kidding or actually being serious? 56-60 points??? maybe our defense can hold out??? the day that we score 56-60 points and hope that our defense can "hold out" is the day that we waive every defensive player on the team and bring up the practice squad.