View Full Version : Bledsoe is carrying this team so far
BledsoetoWittenfortheTD
09-26-2005, 10:39 PM
I don't care what anybody says, but without Bledsoe we could very well be 0-3. I remember when all these Bills trolls were telling me he can't win on the road either. Funny but last time I checked he's gone 6-0 posting some very gaudy numbers dating back to last season with the Jills.
I'm sick of hearing about him patting the ball and staring down receivers too, and that defenses are going to catch up to that...BS I don't buy it.
Bottom line 65%, 850 yards, 7 TD's including 1 rushing.....I honestly didn't think he was going to do this well, but if he keeps it up he's well on his way to yet another probowl. He should add at least 300 more this week in oakland against another hapless secondary.
The defense need to get better fast, we can't play 'cardiac cowboys' type of games every week...eventually it will catch up to us.
Justis
09-26-2005, 11:25 PM
I agree, Bledsoe has been the reason we won football games, I expect Julius to take up the load once teams start worrying more about Bledsoe.
texan by birth
09-27-2005, 12:28 AM
I was wrong about Drew.I was not very happy when we signed him.Thank goodness i am not the gm.He is by far the best qb we have had since Troy.Give Drew time and he will chew a defense up.A great pick up.
stiletto
09-27-2005, 10:08 AM
I think Drew is playing outstanding football right now but the homerism is blinding around here. It's week FREAKIN 3 people. Let's see what he's done at Week 10 or 11 and then start penciling him in as the starter of the Pro-Bowl.
WV Cowboy
09-27-2005, 10:15 AM
:thumbup: I think Drew is playing outstanding football right now but the homerism is blinding around here. It's week FREAKIN 3 people. Let's see what he's done at Week 10 or 11 and then start penciling him in as the starter of the Pro-Bowl.
That's right, it's week 3, ... that's all anyone is saying, that after three weeks Bledsoe is playing very well.
Let'em enjoy it !!
We'll deal with week 10 or 11 when they get here.
But for now, Bledsoe has been a pleasant surprise. :thumbup:
BayArea Cowboy
09-27-2005, 10:17 AM
Good Thoughts on Bledsoe. I was at the 49ers game and I'll have to admit, he takes some getting used to with the patting of the ball and some of his seeminly conservative decisions as opposed to going down field, especailly against the niners. He pulled out the win, which is always bottom line, but it would have been a ton easier without the two costly picks. Drew handed the Niners 14 points. However, I'm certainly willing to give him the time he needs to gain timing and feel for his receivers. In my mind, the mistakes on Sunday are the only difference between him and a Tom Brady.
Doomsday101
09-27-2005, 10:21 AM
Good Thoughts on Bledsoe. I was at the 49ers game and I'll have to admit, he takes some getting used to with the patting of the ball and some of his seeminly conservative decisions as opposed to going down field, especailly against the niners. He pulled out the win, which is always bottom line, but it would have been a ton easier without the two costly picks. Drew handed the Niners 14 points. However, I'm certainly willing to give him the time he needs to gain timing and feel for his receivers. In my mind, the mistakes on Sunday are the only difference between him and a Tom Brady.
Brady made mistakes last week as well, all QB's make mistake it is how some overcome them that is the differance. As for going deep Bledsoe does that very well and knows what he is looking at and what the play is the fan in the stands have no clue to this
Doomsday
09-27-2005, 10:25 AM
Its amazing what a good QB can do when he is given time to throw. Buffalo couldnt protect him and he got killed in the pocket.
austintodallas
09-27-2005, 10:32 AM
I would say Bledsoe and Keyshawn are carrying this team so far.
BayArea Cowboy
09-27-2005, 10:33 AM
Fair response, Brady's got rings though and I want number 6 so bad I'd give my first born. (kidding ofcourse) I'm less concerned about our offense and more concerned about our Defense having a solid game. What a treat for me this year (BayArea fan) as I will be at the Raiders game too! I'm excited to get another look at the Boys against the best 0-3 team in the NFL.
Doomsday101
09-27-2005, 10:36 AM
Fair response, Brady's got rings though and I want number 6 so bad I'd give my first born. (kidding ofcourse) I'm less concerned about our offense and more concerned about our Defense having a solid game. What a treat for me this year (BayArea fan) as I will be at the Raiders game too! I'm excited to get another look at the Boys against the best 0-3 team in the NFL.
Brady has the rings because he plays on an overall very good team Brady is not winning these games sinlge handed, Pats provide very good defensive play, special teams and offense but the main thing I see with the Pats is how they play as an entire team, they check their ego at the door and play great football as an entire team
Portland Fanatic
09-27-2005, 10:48 AM
I gotta tell you guys...I watched the game on Tivo last night since seeing it live and talk about a different feeling, or perception of the game. I've been to many games and usually after watching it on TV I have the same gut feel about it...not this one for some reason. On TV...other then the two pix Drew looked like a stud. One thing I really noticed is that I can not see any of the other receivers at all down field on the plays he dumps off..that is the huge difference. Most of the time I will have side seats...this game we had a straight on shot from the end zone...I see things you really don't from other angles.
I will whole heartedly admit after the 3rd qtr I was thinking Bledsoe is not the answer...thank goodness for some heart and soul and guts he had a great 4th.
Yesterday I talked about how often Glenn was open and beating his man all over the field...I could not see that on TV...at all. At the game it was obvious as he11...
Anyways...not trying to beat a deadhorse or anything...this is just my opinion and what I saw. On TV...he had a he11 of a game! At the game or not he had a GREAT 4th qtr and he sucked it up when it counted!
TheHustler
09-27-2005, 11:05 AM
Bledsoe is playing very well. Easily the best QB we've had since Troy.
bigneil
09-27-2005, 11:38 AM
Drew handed the Niners 14 points...
One of the two interceptions was a deflected ball that the defender made a controverial yet unbelievable (and valid) catch. That following Parcells going for it on 4th and a fumble. Those things happen when you fire 98 passes through a sea of 46 hands.
Drew is on a pace for 32 TDs 10 Ints. He is on a pace to get 4500 yards, matching a career (and Mannings' career) high (4555, 4557 respectively).
For everyone who says he shouldn't do xyz and he'd be better, what they are saying is "why is he only 8th all time in the NFL? Can't he be 6th or 5th in fewer games than the other greats?" No, he can't. Only Marino could, and to this point (halfway in his career vs Marino) Manning.
bigneil
09-27-2005, 11:41 AM
Bledsoe is playing very well. Easily the best QB we've had since Troy.
No one will ever compare to Troy to Cowboys fans, but he only had 32,000 career yards. He's clinging to the #19 spot before he won't be on any top 20 charts. However Brady could do the same and make the HOF, and both deserve it on account of Super Bowls.
bigneil
09-27-2005, 11:45 AM
"I gotta tell you guys...I watched the game on Tivo last night since seeing it live and talk about a different feeling, or perception of the game"
That might be the beer. Funny that no articles, announcers or news mentioned your discovery that Bledsoe actually played poorly.
stiletto
09-27-2005, 11:46 AM
No one will ever compare to Troy to Cowboys fans, but he only had 32,000 career yards. He's clinging to the #19 spot before he won't be on any top 20 charts. However Brady could do the same and make the HOF, and both deserve it on account of Super Bowls.
Bus drivers throw for yards. Guys like Aikman, Brady, Montana, they win Super Bowls. Big difference in my opinion. Who cares about yards...? the ultimate goal is championships. I guess I just have different standards than some....
Portland Fanatic
09-27-2005, 11:48 AM
One of the two interceptions was a deflected ball that the defender made a controverial yet unbelievable (and valid) catch. That following Parcells going for it on 4th and a fumble. Those things happen when you fire 98 passes through a sea of 46 hands.
Drew is on a pace for 32 TDs 10 Ints. He is on a pace to get 4500 yards, matching a career (and Mannings' career) high (4555, 4557 respectively).
For everyone who says he shouldn't do xyz and he'd be better, what they are saying is "why is he only 8th all time in the NFL? Can't he be 6th or 5th in fewer games than the other greats?" No, he can't. Only Marino could, and to this point (halfway in his career vs Marino) Manning.
Can someone explain to me why Bledsoe has become imortal all of a sudden? I'm just curious. He is playing well...helping us win games. He has made some mistakes, which is to be expected because he's HUMAN! So when someone who did see with their own eyes that he gave the Niners 14 points ...it's not ok to talk about here. We are calling out his 6TD's and 2 pix (Which by the way is GREAT)...he is the best QB since Troy...HANDS DOWN, BUT the simple fact is...he did give the Niners 14 points! PERIOD!
His second pick should not have been thrown (Go look at TIVO)....fine...he's human and will make mistakes. I'm just saying...HE MADE ONE!
Lighten up...he's playing well and winning games....BUT he gave the Niners 14 points....GET OVER IT!
In my mind it's erased because he showed guts and ability to forget and move on and pull the win out in the 4th...that's HUGE.
Portland Fanatic
09-27-2005, 11:50 AM
"I gotta tell you guys...I watched the game on Tivo last night since seeing it live and talk about a different feeling, or perception of the game"
That might be the beer. Funny that no articles, announcers or news mentioned your discovery that Bledsoe actually played poorly.
Nobody asked for bigneil to take my point of view...btw...I don't drink.
It's my opinion...have your own..not asking you to take mine....just sahring my thoughts on the game.
Doomsday101
09-27-2005, 11:58 AM
Bus drivers throw for yards. Guys like Aikman, Brady, Montana, they win Super Bowls. Big difference in my opinion. Who cares about yards...? the ultimate goal is championships. I guess I just have different standards than some....
An unrealistic standard, those QB's who have won SB did it because they played on great teams, it was never the Dallas Aikmans or the San fran Montanas QB's no doubt get the spot light but TEAMS wins championships. You could be the greatest QB of all time but it still takes the entire team to win it all. As important as the QB is he can still only do so much
stiletto
09-27-2005, 12:00 PM
An unrealistic standard, those QB's who have won SB did it because they played on great teams, it was never the Dallas Aikmans or the San fran Montanas QB's no doubt get the spot light but TEAMS wins championships. You could be the greatest QB of all time but it still takes the entire team to win it all. As important as the QB is he can still only do so much
Hahaha, tell that to Roger Staubach and John Elway.
Doomsday101
09-27-2005, 12:05 PM
Hahaha, tell that to Roger Staubach and John Elway.
You mean Roger who played on a team with the Doomsday Defense who did their part to win many games by coming up with the big defensive play or the same Roger who had guys like Dorsett and some of the all time great O-Lineman around him. Same could be said for Elway he did not win a SB until he was at the end of his career and had Davis who carried a big load for the Broncos. I agree the QB is a very important position on a team but no QB has won a SB without a lot of the other part around him. I was a big fan of Roger but as good as he was Dallas was not going to the SB every year he was there and Roger had his bad days just like any other QB
stiletto
09-27-2005, 12:40 PM
You mean Roger who played on a team with the Doomsday Defense who did their part to win many games by coming up with the big defensive play or the same Roger who had guys like Dorsett and some of the all time great O-Lineman around him. Same could be said for Elway he did not win a SB until he was at the end of his career and had Davis who carried a big load for the Broncos. I agree the QB is a very important position on a team but no QB has won a SB without a lot of the other part around him. I was a big fan of Roger but as good as he was Dallas was not going to the SB every year he was there and Roger had his bad days just like any other QB
Important? Try most important. Yes of course it helps to have a great team around you but if you don't have a QB that can get the job done you will not win. Don't give me crap about the Ravens and Dilfer, that was the exception to the rule. Let's hope Bledsoe continues to prove he is more than just driving the bus because we are going to need it to be anything better than 8-8.
BayArea Cowboy
09-27-2005, 12:44 PM
Bledsoe has a real oportunity to step up on Sunday against the Raider Nation. The run defense will be tough, but word has it the Raider's secondary be easy pickings.
Hey Portland Fanatic, Can your wife teach my wife how to use the stinkin Tivo! I mean, how hard can it be? Send a copy of the game buddy. Blind BayArea Cowboy
Doomsday101
09-27-2005, 12:44 PM
Important? Try most important. Yes of course it helps to have a great team around you but if you don't have a QB that can get the job done you will not win. Don't give me crap about the Ravens and Dilfer, that was the exception to the rule. Let's hope Bledsoe continues to prove he is more than just driving the bus because we are going to need it to be anything better than 8-8.
I would agree it is very important but don't give me this crud about it is just the QB it is the Team that wins the SB. I guess that is why all the members get rings not just the QB. Fact is I never saw Roger stop a RB in short yardage or pick off a pass to save a game. Teams win championship not just QB's I know many even in the media who judge a QB by rings but that is not even close to the reality because as you mention Dilfer I could add to that guys like Doug Williams as well as some others who were decent QB but not great by any means who played on championship teams.
BledsoetoWittenfortheTD
09-27-2005, 12:45 PM
Bus drivers throw for yards. Guys like Aikman, Brady, Montana, they win Super Bowls. Big difference in my opinion. Who cares about yards...? the ultimate goal is championships. I guess I just have different standards than some....
There's no doubt those guys are all great QB's....but you have to give credit where credit is do....Bledsoe is a hall of fame calibur QB despite what the critics may say....this guy makes players around him better, plain and simple. People keep saying the Bills defense and Mcgahee carried them...this is not true, Bledsoe's leadership and gritty play is what kept that team from being downright terrible the last few years. Going further back to 93 when Bledsoe came into the league he took a horrible New England franchise and single handedly made them a contender ultimately paving the way for Brady and company to do what they did. You can argue that if Bledsoe never got hurt we wouldn't even know who Tom Brady is...whether or not Drew would have won 3 championships is pure speculation, but given the fact Bellechek created the ultimate TEAM who knows.
Championships are a very good resume item...but there are many great players like Jim Kelly or Dan Marino that are empty handed as well. I really hope Drew caps off his great career with a championship or two here in Dallas.....anything is possible and we have to believe this team can make a serious run once the defense improves in the second half
Givincer
09-27-2005, 12:46 PM
Bus drivers throw for yards. Guys like Aikman, Brady, Montana, they win Super Bowls. Big difference in my opinion. Who cares about yards...? the ultimate goal is championships. I guess I just have different standards than some....
actually what a bus driver does is hand the ball off and off of play action pick up a first down once in a while. Bus drivers don't throw up gaudy statistics. This infatuation you have with Quarterbacks winning superbowls is pathetic. You believe that the Quarterback has more influence on the superbowl wins than he actually does and that is all there is too it. The Quaretback is the most important position on the field but it is not more important then ANY two positions together. If you surround a quarterback with wide receivers who create separation and an offensive line that gives the quarterback time to throw and a running threat - a quarterback with a big arm will deliver. I would say Aikman Brady and Montana all BENEFITED from the situations they were in more than adding to the situations they were/are in.
ravidubey
09-27-2005, 12:54 PM
Comeback player of the year so far.
DLCassidy
09-27-2005, 12:56 PM
An unrealistic standard, those QB's who have won SB did it because they played on great teams, it was never the Dallas Aikmans or the San fran Montanas QB's no doubt get the spot light but TEAMS wins championships. You could be the greatest QB of all time but it still takes the entire team to win it all. As important as the QB is he can still only do so much
True. Just ask Dan Marino.
Portland Fanatic
09-27-2005, 12:58 PM
Bledsoe has a real oportunity to step up on Sunday against the Raider Nation. The run defense will be tough, but word has it the Raider's secondary be easy pickings.
Hey Portland Fanatic, Can your wife teach my wife how to use the stinkin Tivo! I mean, how hard can it be? Send a copy of the game buddy. Blind BayArea Cowboy
I would but she does not know how either...however, I can send Zach..my 5 year old...he knows how too. hehe
ravidubey
09-27-2005, 12:58 PM
Bus drivers throw for yards. Guys like Aikman, Brady, Montana, they win Super Bowls. Big difference in my opinion. Who cares about yards...? the ultimate goal is championships. I guess I just have different standards than some....
Bus drivers are care-takers who throw just enough not-to-lose. Think Bob Griese. Bus drivers don't throw 40+ and 50+ deep passes in the clutch like Bledsoe did Sunday.
Great passers throw for big yards-- Marino, Moon, Bledsoe. True, big career yardage doesn't translate into championships (certainly not yet for those three), but it certainly does not reflect driving a bus!
Doomsday101
09-27-2005, 01:00 PM
True. Just ask Dan Marino.
Best example out there as well as Dan Fouts, these guys could put scores on the board but they also played on teams that were not championship caliber. I think great QB's can do enough to get their teams to the playoffs but to take it the rest of the way you better have a solid team on both sides of the line. I'll also never confuse guys like Dilfer,Doug Williams,Brad Johnson and Phil Simms as some of the all time greats like Marino
BledsoetoWittenfortheTD
09-27-2005, 01:05 PM
Bus drivers are care-takers who throw just enough not-to-lose. Think Bob Griese. Bus drivers don't throw 40+ and 50+ deep passes in the clutch like Bledsoe did Sunday.
Great passers throw for big yards-- Marino, Moon, Bledsoe. True, big career yardage doesn't translate into championships (certainly not yet for those three), but it certainly does not reflect driving a bus!
Don't forget about the frauds like Brad Johnson, Trent Dilfer, etc who only won a superbowl out of pure luck because they had phenomenal defensive and special team units that carried them.
Neither of those clowns are half the QB Bledsoe is
AmericasTeam31
09-27-2005, 01:11 PM
New to the board, so HI everyone. Bledsoe is playing great football and IMO if they would've opened the playbook a little more we'd be 3-0. I hope that the development of the passing game continues so JJ can have some room to run a little more.
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