*** Cowboys vs Raiders Game Thread***

[Jammer]

Now we have to be careful to score, but not too soon
Agreed. We need to leave about 2 seconds on the clock for the Raiders.

[BigDFan5]

1st down JJ

Flag Down

offsides Oak

Play stands

[ZenItRam]

against the raiders!!!

[TruBlueCowboy]

Did they get the Raiders? or that the cowboys?

[irishwaste]

I saw we score as soon as we can. We cant be conservative like we usually are, or we'll end up without any points.

[Dallas4ever]

Now we have to be careful to score, but not too soon

Are you kidding?

[BigDFan5]

JJ gain of 7

we are on the 5

[ZenItRam]

JJ ... finally a good cut and hard run!!

[dragon_mikal]

We are going to win this game.

[Draegerman]

Guys, I believe that we're officially in 4 down territory here.

Let's hope it doesn't come down to that.

[Cogan]

Bledsoe is TERRIBLE today. #1 rated passer in the NFC? Hardly.

Come on, man. Get behind your team. Dude has played great ball all year, & you blast him for one bad game. When was the last time you were perfect?

[Jimz31]

If we do score too soon...they will go to Moss.

Forget it...just score.

[ajk23az]

JJ for the td, i know it........we hold the raiders next drive and win by 1

[Westcoasthabsfan]

Pound it in Julius.....

[Windmill]

Are you kidding?

They still have Moss, even if it doesn't look like it.

[ZenItRam]

2 minute warning ... so, even if we score, can we hold moss??

[Cbz40]

OH Gawd....................................Lord help me.

[Silverstar]

Everybody pray man!!!


It works!!


:pray2:

[Jimz31]

Come on, man. Get behind your team. Dude has played great ball all year, & you blast him for one bad game. When was the last time you were perfect?

This is the NFL....we are playing not to lose....he can't afford to have a bad game at ANY point this year.

I am behind them. He is just looking TERRIBLE today.

[TruBlueCowboy]

What a dilemma, I want them to run out the clock, but the offense has been so shaky the whole game, I feel like they should go for that TD ASAP and not waste the minutes in case it takes them too many plays.

[ajk23az]

even tho everyone is thinking jj is runnin like crap today, he is pretty much at his avergae for the seaosn......

[Cbz40]

Run clock & score.....................

[Westcoasthabsfan]

I am glad to see the Boys using Glenn its about time

[lurkercowboy]

Let's run on this first play following the 2-minute warning. What do you say? It will run some clock if no TD.

[Jammer]

This is why the NFL is the best game on the planet (but only if the Cowboys pull this game out).

[fortdick]

Everybody pray man!!!


It works!!


:pray2:

It does! I am!

[PrimeTime22]

I'm as big a Bledsoe hater as anyone, but I can't place the blame entirely on him for this game. The offensive line's play has been atrocious.

[Silverstar]

Our Father thou art in heaven....


:pray2:

[ajk23az]

keyshawn has no become more absent then glenn....one catch for 16 yards.....

[irishwaste]

Biting my nails over here......

[fortdick]

Let's run on this first play following the 2-minute warning. What do you say? It will run some clock if no TD.

Bledsoe on a bootleg. No one would expect it!

[TSquare]

This is the NFL....we are playing not to lose....he can't afford to have a bad game at ANY point this year.

I am behind them. He is just looking TERRIBLE today.

Yet he has us coming back from 2 td's on a couple big time pass plays when he's been getting killed all day.

[ZenItRam]

horrible ...

[dragon_mikal]

Uh oh. 3rd down. Why didn't we throw that?

[ajk23az]

philly game is over....green threw another int........:(:(

[Dallas4ever]

Why does it seem like the Raiders have the #1 run defense.

[Jammer]

Biting my nails over here......
You still have nails to bite?

[Put Henson In]

Come On Cowboys!!!!

[ajk23az]

ahhhhhhhhhhh this is killing me.......no one can run the ball, what do we do???????

[ZenItRam]

horrible !!!! again

[Mash]

we can do it!

[dragon_mikal]

Oh hell...

We need a 1st down.

[Windmill]

Game is decided here.

[Jimz31]

Yet he has us coming back from 2 td's on a couple big time pass plays when he's been getting killed all day.
11/24.....

Some terrible throws....not seeing the open man (Glenn in the 2nd qtr, and he did that against Wash).

I'm behind him, but to say that he's remotely had a good game is not true.

[TruBlueCowboy]

All comes down to one play.

[Westcoasthabsfan]

Have to go for it..... how about a play action pass

[Put Henson In]

worst call ever? Has my vote.

[Draegerman]

You still have nails to bite?

I'm working on my fingers now. ;)

[Rude]

Dang, they wasted a timeout, wish they would have held it incase

[Windmill]

Game.

[Mr Cowboy]

Game over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ZenItRam]

done ... we're done ....

[Put Henson In]

our offensive coordinator is AWFUL!!!! AWFUL!!!! AWFUL!!!! AWFUL!!!! PLEASE DIE PAYTON!!!!

[dragon_mikal]

Crap.

[Jimz31]

Heck of a pass.

[Jammer]

I'm ashamed at the playcalling the last couple of plays.

[Windmill]

I can't believe they lose with all those friggin penalties by the Raiders. We are beyond suck. Oh boy are the Eagles and Giants gonna shred us appart.

[TruBlueCowboy]

Bledsoe sucks. Witten is open so often and he keeps looking to Key (and Glenn sometimes).

[Jimz31]

Witten is furious and well should be.

[ajk23az]

can oakland run out the clock now???

[Windmill]

BP is soft. The Raiders didn't even need Moss to beat us.

[Jimz31]

Who was the anemic team today?

[dragon_mikal]

That's the game.

[JohnsKey19]

Nice job. Witten should be furious!!!! Did we even look his way????

[Mr Cowboy]

Why didn't we pass earlier? We could have beat them by a lot if we had tried to pass early and often

[Dallas4ever]

We're starting to get an idea of what kind of team we have.

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Law of averages catches up to us again. Too many close games.

[justbob]

worst possible play calling ---raider mistakes were the only reason we were in the game
We have potential and will get better ,but I,m not sure we will under this set of coach

[Put Henson In]

I cannot watch this garbage coaching anymore. Call me when we hire someone competent.

[Jimz31]

O...V...E...R...

Witten....the forgotten man today.

[JohnsKey19]

On top of that we blew a timeout for a terrible play call

[Silverstar]

You don't win games by scoring just 13 points.


Our running game is simply not getting it done this season.


:(

[Draegerman]

I didn't mind winning both of our games this year as they came down to the wire, but when you're on the losing end of one like we are today...it really sucks. :(

[Dallas4ever]

Why didn't we pass earlier? We could have beat them by a lot if we had tried to pass early and often

Not a good game plan. Give the Raiders credit....they came to play today.

Norv had a better plan than Bill.

[Jimz31]

Why didn't we pass earlier? We could have beat them by a lot if we had tried to pass early and often

26 passes...Bledsoe could'nt do squat today.

[mrecktid]

Why do we INSIST on throwing SHORT of every place we need to be.

3rd & 8, throw a 3yd route.

4&4 from the 6yd line. Throw it to the 1.

Sigh.

[kingwhicker]

We're starting to get an idea of what kind of team we have.

What's that, a hunk of sh**??

[diehard2294]

Jordan shredded us today

[Mash]

Oh well .....good game....they all even out.....if we continue to play like this.....its a 8-8 team....you need to be aggressive from the get go......make the other team afraid of you....set the tempo.......all are games are play not to lose and hope we can pull it off in the end.

Good game.....we could be 0 and 4 or 4 and 0 this season......but...as things tend to even out....were 2-2........the problem with this philosophy....when u play a very good team......they will put you away.

I wasn't happy with Campo playing this style.....and Im not sure happy with this kind of style with Bill.......I rather have one of the worst records in football then consistantly be 8-8.

[Gaede]

this team is seriously stressing me out!

[Cogan]

These first four games came out about like I figured....better really. I'm really excited about the future. Our rookies are coming on, our QB had a bad game, but he'll be back. Hey, give the Raiders their due. They were hanging by a thread, and they came out like a desperate team should, angry.
Don't dispair, Cowboy fans. This season will get better. We have taken every team we've played down to the wire...with a bunch of rookies on defense trying to learn a new system, and a new QB on offense. The only thing I'm disappointed about is the offensive line. They should be blocking better by now.
Good thing there's a mess of OTs available in next years' draft.

[Jimz31]

Coaches need to go back and read "Coaching for Dummies".

Bledsoe needs to read "Passing for Dummies."

Terrible all around today.

Hopefully next week will be better.

[Jammer]

C'mon, did anyone really think the game woud be this low scoring? I can't believe we lost the game on downs that close to the endzone

[Put Henson In]

our playcalling was designed for us to lose.

[Cbz40]

Just need one question answered.....Why did we not throw to Witten more?

[PrimeTime22]

I just can't get over how bad this O-line has played, there's no way JJ can get any yardage if the holes keep closing as fast as they have been so far.

[vicjagger]

Lost to a winless team. We suck.

[Brave]

Oakland

13 penalties for 85 yards

[Windmill]

Time to watch the Eagles leave us behind in the dust of the NFC East.

[Thick 'N Hearty]

I am so tired of BP's conservative offense. DB never threw the ball down field until we were in the fourth quarter. I hate that style of play. It doesn't attack. It plays not to lose. It'd be great if we had a coach who coached to win, not to lose. We will never go anywhere with him. Period.

[mrecktid]

The Eagles? We're 2-2, the Skins are 3-0, the Giants are 3-1. EVERYONE will be leaving us behind in the dust.

[Put Henson In]

There's always next year. 8-8 at best this year. We have the players to win 10 but the coaching to win 6.

[Mash]

we could be the worst team in our division......and one without a young QB (sorry Henson) with potential.

[TwentyOne]

Now we all know where we going this season!

We have a good team. Our Defence is coming together. But our team is not so good to overcome bad coaching (playcalling) on both sides of the ball.

This is it. Seasons over. Get the young guns some experience and a high draft pick. Get rid of this Zimmer-guy. I can't stand him anymore and let Payton have an earfull of BP!

I am so depressed right now!!!!!!

[Gaede]

I really don't like what Payton's doing with this offense.

Or Zimmer. I think we probably have the wussiest 3-4 in the history of time . not seriously, but a blitz would be more than welcome

On the plus side, our rookies look good (already) and pass defense didn't get shredded

[Windmill]

That's what I meant. Before today we were tied with the Eagles and they are the last team to leave us behind.

[marchetta]

I'm pissed! We continue to enter every game with the same LOUSY CONSERVATIVE "play not to lose style." Instead of designing our O to attack our opponents weakness, we play to our opponent's strengths. Everyone knows the Raiders are tough to run inside against, and are vulnerable on sweeps and passes. So, what do we do? We do the same thing we've been doing all year, playing the same old conservative style of ball that always costs us the game. How many games do we have to lose until BP realizes that our best chance of winning comes from being aggressive, and attacking our opponents weaknesses. We have the weapons! We should of activated Price and attacked the Raider's secondary all day, and used the pass to back off the safeties for JJ. We are pathetic, but I don't blame the players, I blame BP for failing to change with the times, and realize that our best chance of winning comes from attacking and being aggressive. I really believe that if the Raiders secondary starters were all out injured, and we were facing backups in their secondary, we still would be running JJ between the tackles for 1 yard gains! !!!

[Hollywood Henderson]

I agree with you guys, you have to dictate some attitude...
Yep the offense is predictable...
Just like our nickle D...

[Cowboy4ever]

you guys are depressing me!

[31WillHammerU]

I agree with you guys, you have to dictate some attitude...
Yep the offense is predictable...
Just like our nickle D...

What defense? :)

[Windmill]

OMG Moss didn't get a TD against us for the first time! It almost feels like a win. Sad.

[Mash]

Bill was passive with the Giants....he didn't have complex blitz packages.....it was all LT....he was a man amoung boys.

Bellichek is more aggressive and actually game plans against the O.....he actually tries to set the tempo.

We don't and still wont make half time adjustments.........can u actually tell me....did anyone see anything different in this game that we havent seen in others.....except the trick plays......so we stayed over there so we can watch film quiker....yet we come out of the gates and leave Moss one on one on the second play of the game.

[Hollywood Henderson]

Well, I think were about as far along as I thought we would be as a team, but I really wanted a new attitude on D, one that attacks & kills QB's...

Just like we need to learn to do on offense...Attack & go for the throat/jugular!

We still have a promising team, and should only get better on both sides of the ball..

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Like I said, we won't get anywhere with BP. He is old school and that's great. But, the old doesn't mix with the new. I honestly hope we don't make the playoffs so hopefully the idiot will retire and someone with fresh, new ideas will come in and light it up.

[ChldsPlay]

Bill sure brought in the players, now if he and the coaching staff would buy a clue and learn how to use them, we might have something. Both of losses this year were 100% due to piss poor coaching, and playcalling.

[Cowboy4ever]

Like I said, we won't get anywhere with BP. He is old school and that's great. But, the old doesn't mix with the new. I honestly hope we don't make the playoffs so hopefully the idiot will retire and someone with fresh, new ideas will come in and light it up.

My biggest fear is Payton taking over for BP as HC once he leaves.

[Cowboy4ever]

Lost to a winless team. We suck.

They were the best team without a win,, much like the Deadskins are the worst team without a loss. The raiders are a pretty decent team. I would have liked to see us more aggressive on O and I would have liked drew to hit glen in the chest on that last throw, but I wouldn't say we suck,, not yet.

[marchetta]

Playing not to lose sucks! Instead of designing our O gameplan to attack the opponents Defensive weaknesses, we stick to our conservative play not to lose style. Teams don't even need to game plan against us, since they already know we are not going to take any chances to exploit any particular weakness of our opponent. They know, that no matter what deficencies they have on defense, we are not going to alter our play calling to take advantage of it. We were facing a very tough run defense and lousy pass defense team, and what do we do? We continued to try to establish the run between the tackles. DUH!!! Why didn't we just attack their weakness and throw the ball? Simple, because we don't alter our game plan according to our opponent. We used the same game plan against the Raiders that we used against the Chargers, Redskins, and 49ers. Which is, establish the run, don't take chances, keep it close, and play not to lose, and hope our D can hold down our opponents. Problem is, it NEVER works!!!

[Mash]

Playing not to lose sucks! Instead of designing our O gameplan to attack the opponents Defensive weaknesses, we stick to our conservative play not to lose style. Teams don't even need to game plan against us, since they already know we are not going to take any chances to exploit any particular weakness of our opponent. They know, that no matter what deficencies they have on defense, we are not going to alter our play calling to take advantage of it. We were facing a very tough run defense and lousy pass defense team, and what do we do? We continued to try to establish the run between the tackles. DUH!!! Why didn't we just attack their weakness and throw the ball? Simple, because we don't alter our game plan according to our opponent. We used the same game plan against the Raiders that we used against the Chargers, Redskins, and 49ers. Which is, establish the run, don't take chances, keep it close, and play not to lose, and hope our D can hold down our opponents. Problem is, it NEVER works!!!


It works if your looking for a .500 season....

Bill will leave here as a .500 coach.......collect his millions....and save his face by blaming stupid players and then get voted in the HOF.

I think Bill does have a eye for certain positions.....like RB's and LBs....but as a coach.....not the external stuff but as a coach preparing players to play the game....I think it has passed him by......but then again.....maybe his assistants are problem......he use to have some very good ones with the Giants...Pats and Jets......and maybe the ones he is relying on now....are just not cutting it.

[Waffle]

Well, I think were about as far along as I thought we would be as a team, but I really wanted a new attitude on D, one that attacks & kills QB's...

Just like we need to learn to do on offense...Attack & go for the throat/jugular!

We still have a promising team, and should only get better on both sides of the ball..

I totally agree HH. I want to see QBs flattened and I think we'll eventually get there. This team gives me more hope than any we've fielded since the late 90s, and that includes the 2003 team who wasn't anywhere near as good as their 10-6 record might indicate.

After reading some threads today, way too many people want to jump ship because of a couple of tough losses.