Is CHutch done?

[Nightshade]

Someone on another thread brought this up, but what's going to be the plan with Chutch? We could have released him already. There's only a limited number of snaps in camp, so why take him to TC?

All hope of trade value vanished in Europe. Even if we just dumped chutch now, what team if any would talk to him?

At this point I'm not sure if he'd be anything more than a third string or practice squad QB.

[My Problem Is Obvious]

All I know is Hutch fumbles more than Julia Childs playing flag football with a frozen turkey at the Crisco Company Picnic.

[calico]

I would not be surprised if Dallas hold onto him during traning camp. Someone might get injured or some other team with injuries might come calling for him. I think he still has some value.

[Maikeru-sama]

Man, I am not Certain. We have Carter, Testeverde, Henson and Tony Romo. The fact that the staff kept Romo here to be closer to the Coaching Staff says that he may have the inside track in keeping a roster spot.

Last time I heard, he was in Arkansas getting some treatment on his shoulder I beleive. Maybe the final decision will come in Training Camp, but man, I just dont see 3-4 guys getting all that much work in Oxnard.

Like Bill Parcells said in one of his PCs "It will be hard to keep four of em".

- Mike G.

[dstew60105]

Someone on another thread brought this up, but what's going to be the plan with Chutch? We could have released him already. There's only a limited number of snaps in camp, so why take him to TC?

All hope of trade value vanished in Europe. Even if we just dumped chutch now, what team if any would talk to him?

At this point I'm not sure if he'd be anything more than a third string or practice squad QB.


Probably keep him for part of TC. We have a roster exemption for him so why not use it and see if someone wants to trade for him.


Don

[MS17]

One of the last reports had it that Hutch was rehabbing his shoulder injury, from NFLE this spring, in Birmingham, Al with one of the Cowboys' athletic injury specialists. Say he's ready for TC July 31, what then?

[My Problem Is Obvious]

I would not be surprised if Dallas hold onto him during traning camp. Someone might get injured or some other team with injuries might come calling for him. I think he still has some value.

Hutch couldn't even play in NFL Europe!!!

There has to be a point when you just have to say a guy can NOT play in the NFL. Hutch passed that point a long time ago. Sure he can toss a nice one once in a while, but all you have to do is look at the guy wrong and the football comes skittering out accross the field like a Mexican jumping bean on crack.

It's bad enough throwing interceptions, but the quarterback fumbling the ball every time he takes a hit is just plain unacceptable at the professional level. He's had YEARS to correct the problem yet he continues to put the ball on the ground.

Hutch is about as valuble as that dog who fetches the kicking tee after the kickoff.....except the dog only wants a freaking BONE after the game.

[Maikeru-sama]

Thanks for that MS17, I thought he was in Arkansas :).

- Mike G.

[Maikeru-sama]

Hutch couldn't even play in NFL Europe!!!

There has to be a point when you just have to say a guy can NOT play in the NFL. Hutch passed that point a long time ago. Sure he can toss a nice one once in a while, but all you have to do is look at the guy wrong and the football comes skittering out accross the field like a Mexican jumping bean on crack.

It's bad enough throwing interceptions, but the quarterback fumbling the ball every time he takes a hit is just plain unacceptable at the professional level. He's had YEARS to correct the problem yet he continues to put the ball on the ground.

Hutch is about as valuble as that dog who fetches the kicking tee after the kickoff.....except the dog only wants a freaking BONE after the game.

Please tell us what you really think :D !!!

- Mike G.

[AdamJT13]

Whether we trade him or release him, it's pretty much a guarantee that Hutchinson will be on some team's roster this season.

[starfrombirth]

Hutch couldn't even play in NFL Europe!!!

There has to be a point when you just have to say a guy can NOT play in the NFL. Hutch passed that point a long time ago. Sure he can toss a nice one once in a while, but all you have to do is look at the guy wrong and the football comes skittering out accross the field like a Mexican jumping bean on crack.

It's bad enough throwing interceptions, but the quarterback fumbling the ball every time he takes a hit is just plain unacceptable at the professional level. He's had YEARS to correct the problem yet he continues to put the ball on the ground.

Hutch is about as valuble as that dog who fetches the kicking tee after the kickoff.....except the dog only wants a freaking BONE after the game.

Did anyone ever see even 1 game of him in nfle? That man was running for his life on every play. Worse even that Troy's 1-15 year. And when he did have the chance to throw he was dead on accurate. I think it's a mistake to let him go before we see what he can do with more than 2 seconds to throw. :D

[SALADIN]

All I know is Hutch fumbles more than Julia Childs playing flag football with a frozen turkey at the Crisco Company Picnic.

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and this time a year ago he (Chutch) was our savior

Anything but the 'dumb', the 'togue', the 'bus driver'

As long as he fits the image. I can't believe that this is 2004. :confused:

[aikemirv]

Did anyone ever see even 1 game of him in nfle? That man was running for his life on every play. Worse even that Troy's 1-15 year. And when he did have the chance to throw he was dead on accurate. I think it's a mistake to let him go before we see what he can do with more than 2 seconds to throw. :D

Better prospect than ROMO in my opinion. Had over 60% completion, more TD's than Int's and really did not fumble much over there for the number of sacks he took.

I would keep him over Romo and try to give him another year in Europe next year. They have invested a good bit into him.

[BrAinPaiNt]

All I know is Hutch fumbles more than Julia Childs playing flag football with a frozen turkey at the Crisco Company Picnic.

LOL

Oh I do not think hutch is done yet...I think he still has a few more minutes in Julia's pressure cooker...while she takes a few more nips off the bottle. :p

[Bluefin]

Someone on another thread brought this up, but what's going to be the plan with Chutch? We could have released him already. There's only a limited number of snaps in camp, so why take him to TC?

Doesn't Dallas have to hold onto Chad Hutchinson until a certain date to receive the roster excemption for camp or something?

It seems like I read about something like that.

Other than that, perhaps Dallas is hoping to elicit a future conditional draft choice from a team willing to spend the necessary to develop Hutch and wanting to keep him off the open market.

Hutchinson isn't ready to play right now, but if placed in the right system and given time to learn the position, he may yet become something.

[jay cee]

Hutch couldn't even play in NFL Europe!!!

There has to be a point when you just have to say a guy can NOT play in the NFL. Hutch passed that point a long time ago. Sure he can toss a nice one once in a while, but all you have to do is look at the guy wrong and the football comes skittering out accross the field like a Mexican jumping bean on crack.

It's bad enough throwing interceptions, but the quarterback fumbling the ball every time he takes a hit is just plain unacceptable at the professional level. He's had YEARS to correct the problem yet he continues to put the ball on the ground.

Hutch is about as valuble as that dog who fetches the kicking tee after the kickoff.....except the dog only wants a freaking BONE after the game.

I don't see how you can guarantee that some team can't work with Hutchinson for the next 2-3 years and work out his weaknesses. I think he could do ok with the right circumstances.

[blindzebra]

Doesn't Dallas have to hold onto Chad Hutchinson until a certain date to receive the roster excemption for camp or something?

It seems like I read about something like that.

Other than that, perhaps Dallas is hoping to elicit a future conditional draft choice from a team willing to spend the necessary to develop Hutch and wanting to keep him off the open market.

Hutchinson isn't ready to play right now, but if placed in the right system and given time to learn the position, he may yet become something.

We got two exemptions each for Hutchinson and Volk. We assigned the extra exemptions to Newman and Witten on June 14th, the day we could have released him and kept the extra exemption.

[jobberone]

QC starts. Henson stays, Vinny is backup unless QC self destructs or is injured, and Romo is the PS guy or gets cut as well. Personally I keep Romo until the last cut and try to put him on the PS assuming he's eligible. This is assuming the other three make it out of training camp without injury. He's only one season ending snap away from being on the squad and two away from likely being the starter. If Carter and Vinny went down I would think Romo starts over Henson not on talent but knowledge and experience. It's not terribly unusual for the third guy to end up the starter at some point in the season.

Hutch self destructed. Someone may pick him up and I would not be surprised for him to hang around awhile. He could even turn it around on another team although I wouldn't put any money on it.

I don't think the roster exemption is going to help him. There are not enough snaps so even if he's here he's costing money and taking snaps from the others who either have a known role or a future here.

[ChrisFul]

Hutch is basically mr. Irrelevant at this point. I don't think he makes it through TC on the cowboys roster. He'll either be released and swiftly picked up by another team or traded away for some future consideration. There's simply no room for him here, not with Henson and Vinny.

[Hostile]

The Cowboys received two roster exemptions for Hutch and Dave Volk, I think. Once June 14th arrived Dallas could release both of them and keep the roster exemptions. JJT wrote an article explaining this date as the likely last day of Hutch's time as a Cowboy. Apparently wishful thinking on JJT's part because Dallas has done nothing yet.

Perhaps they want to know more about hsi shoulder. If they put him on IR he can't play in 2004 anyway, but they don't lose their investment in him. It might be something they are considering given Vinny is a 1 year solution or option.

I doubt we go into TC with 5 QBs. I just think the team is exhausting all options before it moves.

Even if it does drive JJT nuts. :D

[blindzebra]

The Cowboys received two roster exemptions for Hutch and Dave Volk, I think. Once June 14th arrived Dallas could release both of them and keep the roster exemptions. JJT wrote an article explaining this date as the likely last day of Hutch's time as a Cowboy. Apparently wishful thinking on JJT's part because Dallas has done nothing yet.

Perhaps they want to know more about hsi shoulder. If they put him on IR he can't play in 2004 anyway, but they don't lose their investment in him. It might be something they are considering given Vinny is a 1 year solution or option.

I doubt we go into TC with 5 QBs. I just think the team is exhausting all options before it moves.

Even if it does drive JJT nuts. :D

I've thought the IR was possible ever since Hutchinson hurt his shoulder.

We did not send Romo to NFLE mainly because it would expose him to other teams a lot more than limited preseason playing time would and greatly increase the chance of losing him off the PS.

We are paying Hutchinson whether we release him or keep him, so why not put him on IR?

[hockix]

The Cowboys received two roster exemptions for Hutch and Dave Volk, I think. Once June 14th arrived Dallas could release both of them and keep the roster exemptions. JJT wrote an article explaining this date as the likely last day of Hutch's time as a Cowboy. Apparently wishful thinking on JJT's part because Dallas has done nothing yet.

Perhaps they want to know more about hsi shoulder. If they put him on IR he can't play in 2004 anyway, but they don't lose their investment in him. It might be something they are considering given Vinny is a 1 year solution or option.

I doubt we go into TC with 5 QBs. I just think the team is exhausting all options before it moves.

Even if it does drive JJT nuts. :D

I really don't see any other reason why Hutch is still with the boys.
I guess he will be on IR and keep him.

One of my friends saw him play in a couple of games in Germany and he couldn't beleive how bad an Oline he had in front of him. Most of the times that he had more then 2 seconds, the ball was right on target. He had to run for his life most of the time. I don't think the kid is done yet...

[LaTunaNostra]

I really don't see any other reason why Hutch is still with the boys.
I guess he will be on IR and keep him.

One of my friends saw him play in a couple of games in Germany and he couldn't beleive how bad an Oline he had in front of him. Most of the times that he had more then 2 seconds, the ball was right on target. He had to run for his life most of the time. I don't think the kid is done yet...

You are correct, Hockix. NFLE olines are notoriously bad, but this one was, well, special. There was a particularly adept human turnstyle at LT.

Maybe Hutch will qualify for IR because he has an injury serious enough to warrent it.

Maybe the team will stash him there and the injury doesn't warrent it.

But if keeping him is even on Bill and Jerry's agenda, the right thing to do now is to let Hutch himself make the decision as to whether he wants to hang around on a team where he's lost the starting job, and where a potential franchise QB has been brought in, or find a place that will more highly value his potential.

Chad is what? 27? If his shoulder injury isn't anything more than a minor one, it will hurt him to stay inactive for a full season.

He needs to play, or at least get some reps.

I really hope at this point doing the 'right' thing (whatever that may be) for the player himself is the major consideration.

[hockix]

You are correct, Hockix. NFLE olines are notoriously bad, but this one was, well, special. There was a particularly adept human turnstyle at LT.

Maybe Hutch will qualify for IR because he has an injury serious enough to warrent it.

Maybe the team will stash him there and the injury doesn't warrent it.

But if keeping him is even on Bill and Jerry's agenda, the right thing to do now is to let Hutch himself make the decision as to whether he wants to hang around on a team where he's lost the starting job, and where a potential franchise QB has been brought in, or find a place that will more highly value his potential.

Chad is what? 27? If his shoulder injury isn't anything more than a minor one, it will hurt him to stay inactive for a full season.

He needs to play, or at least get some reps.

I really hope at this point doing the 'right' thing (whatever that may be) for the player himself is the major consideration.

You are right, I'm just surprised nothing is done yet?
Do they wait and see how the shoulder respond to the traitement or what?
I just wonder what's going on cause it is just plain and simple that they won't keep 5 QBs for training camp.

[Hostile]

You are right, I'm just surprised nothing is done yet?
Do they wait and see how the shoulder respond to the traitement or what?
I just wonder what's going on cause it is just plain and simple that they won't keep 5 QBs for training camp.
I wish we'd get some news on it.

Let's say for arguments sake we release Hutch, and place Romo on the Practice Squad where we lose him to a team that is injured at QB.

Vinny is a 1 year band aid. That means we go from 5 QBs in 2004 to 2 in 2005.

It could happen.

[Skeptic]

Yes, yes he is. Stick a fork in him and trade him to GB for a 7th.

[LaTunaNostra]

I wish we'd get some news on it.

Let's say for arguments sake we release Hutch, and place Romo on the Practice Squad where we lose him to a team that is injured at QB.

Vinny is a 1 year band aid. That means we go from 5 QBs in 2004 to 2 in 2005.

It could happen.
If the intention is to release him, doesn't he first have to pass an exit physial OR be given an injury settlement?

If the intention is to trade him, he has to be healthy enough to pass the new team's physical.

The waiting makes sense in light of the shoulder injury.

We've just never heard how bad or minor it is.

[Hostile]

If the intention is to release him, doesn't he first have to pass an exit physial OR be given an injury settlement?

If the intention is to trade him, he has to be healthy enough to pass the new team's physical.

The waiting makes sense in light of the shoulder injury.

We've just never heard how bad or minor it is.
'Tis a very worthy point M'Lady.

[hockix]

If the intention is to release him, doesn't he first have to pass an exit physial OR be given an injury settlement?

If the intention is to trade him, he has to be healthy enough to pass the new team's physical.

The waiting makes sense in light of the shoulder injury.

We've just never heard how bad or minor it is.

So another wait and see... :(

[hockix]

I wish we'd get some news on it.

Let's say for arguments sake we release Hutch, and place Romo on the Practice Squad where we lose him to a team that is injured at QB.

Vinny is a 1 year band aid. That means we go from 5 QBs in 2004 to 2 in 2005.

It could happen.

I understand your fear, but we have to rely on Carter and Henson for now.
I'm not really comfortable with Vinny in Dallas, I just don't get it.
And who knows about Romo?

An improved offense will just make Carter better or at least look better and we will see if Henson develop as the real deal or not.

If we get to 2 QB then we'll get one in FA or late rd draft next year.

[aikemirv]

I wish we'd get some news on it.

Let's say for arguments sake we release Hutch, and place Romo on the Practice Squad where we lose him to a team that is injured at QB.

Vinny is a 1 year band aid. That means we go from 5 QBs in 2004 to 2 in 2005.

It could happen.

Very good point, You almost have to keep the 4th QB on the active roster if you want to be assured he's there next year.

[Hostile]

I understand your fear, but we have to rely on Carter and Henson for now.
I'm not really comfortable with Vinny in Dallas, I just don't get it.
And who knows about Romo?

An improved offense will just make Carter better or at least look better and we will see if Henson develop as the real deal or not.

If we get to 2 QB then we'll get one in FA or late rd draft next year.
Romo on the Practice Squad is an invitation to losing him. Waiving Hutch or trading him the same. Vinny's age alone is an invitation.

Now maybe people will understand why I advocated Kerry Collins. A whole lot less shaky than what we have right now.

I'll let others rely on Carter. I'll root for him and rely on Henson being equal to the task and hype.

I am already wondering which veteran QBs might be available in 2005. I just prefer that to another draft selection. I don't even have any faith in Hutch or Romo but I still don't want just 2 signal callers next off season if Vinny (hopefully) hangs em up.

[blindzebra]

I wish we'd get some news on it.

Let's say for arguments sake we release Hutch, and place Romo on the Practice Squad where we lose him to a team that is injured at QB.

Vinny is a 1 year band aid. That means we go from 5 QBs in 2004 to 2 in 2005.

It could happen.

Actually, after two years of this QB crap, would that be such a bad thing? :D

[Nightshade]

Actually, after two years of this QB crap, would that be such a bad thing? :D

Two years?
I'd say we've been in QB purgatory for at least 4 years, if you count the uncertainty we had in Aikman's last year or so with all the concussions.

Even though alot of other teams (Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Washington etc.) have been going through this alot longer, when they signed Henson, I could swear I saw a little light at the end of this sewer pipe.

[blindzebra]

Two years?
I'd say we've been in QB purgatory for at least 4 years, if you count the uncertainty we had in Aikman's last year or so with all the concussions.

Even though alot of other teams (Pittsburgh, Chicago, Detroit, Washington etc.) have been going through this alot longer, when they signed Henson, I could swear I saw a little light at the end of this sewer pipe.

I'm talking QB wars, Nightshade. ;)

This problem started in 94-96 when we should have been drafting QBs to groom.

We should have been using the GB approach, but we kept signing FAs like Kosar and Cunningham and had a #3 QB/coach type with Garrett.

We were completely unprepared for Aikman's retirement.

[aikemirv]

Romo on the Practice Squad is an invitation to losing him. Waiving Hutch or trading him the same. Vinny's age alone is an invitation.

Now maybe people will understand why I advocated Kerry Collins. A whole lot less shaky than what we have right now.

I'll let others rely on Carter. I'll root for him and rely on Henson being equal to the task and hype.

I am already wondering which veteran QBs might be available in 2005. I just prefer that to another draft selection. I don't even have any faith in Hutch or Romo but I still don't want just 2 signal callers next off season if Vinny (hopefully) hangs em up.

I agree on the Collins thing, it would have really solidified our QB position for the next few years if QC and Henson just don't work out.

Did he just sign a one year deal?

[Doomsday101]

I would have to say it does not look good for Chad right now, it is ashame we have to give up on him after only 9 starts but sometimes that is the way things go in this league. I do think he will get another oppertunity in the league it just won't be here.