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trickblue
10-04-2005, 01:56 PM
I was listening to Steve Czaban on Fox Sports Radio earlier today and he had Don Banks of SI on...

Banks said the Marvin Lewis told him that "LaVar Arrington most undisciplined player I have ever coached"...

Lewis said that he would practice fine and stay within the scheme but that on gameday he free-lanced the whole game. He also said he was frustrated as he felt Arrington was expected to play from the higher-ups.

Banks said that Arrington is physically fine and has definitely been benched. He also said the Redskins will likely cut him next season.
InmanRoshi
10-04-2005, 01:58 PM
Would I sign him on the cheap to play in the 3-4? In a second. Especially if he's got an axe to grind with the Redskins. They said the same thing about Bryan Cox.
Chocolate Lab
10-04-2005, 02:00 PM
Would I sign him on the cheap to play in the 3-4? In a second. Especially if he's got an axe to grind with the Redskins. They said the same thing about Bryan Cox.
He would need a serious attitude adjustment, though... Cox had a rep as a wild man and bad guy, but I don't think he had the Hollywood Syndrome that Arrington has...
Hiero
10-04-2005, 02:02 PM
ya it would take a special situation to come here. most likely a cheap contract, and the realization, that he isnt a superstar and never was. if youve ever even seen the guy play, you can tell he just freelances whatever he wants to do, and im not sure that fits into our scheme.
burmafrd
10-04-2005, 02:02 PM
Arrington is a bust. Without discipline he just becomes another AB or Ross.
Lots of POTENTIAL but never reaches it.
JohnsKey19
10-04-2005, 02:05 PM
If the Skins cut him, Lavar will surely sign with the Steelers. He's a huge fan and I'm sure the Steelers could use him as a rush 3-4 end.
Zman5
10-04-2005, 02:34 PM
He is from Pittsbugh.
Rack Bauer
10-04-2005, 02:36 PM
But how can this be? According to 99% of all Skins fan, Arrington is the best OLB in the NFL! Even if he is on the bench.


:D
joseephuss
10-04-2005, 02:44 PM
Would I sign him on the cheap to play in the 3-4? In a second. Especially if he's got an axe to grind with the Redskins. They said the same thing about Bryan Cox.

What is cheap? I don't think you have to go too cheap to sign him. It will cost some money, but if he isn't looking for a big time contract, I would look into it. Perhaps a change of scenery will change Arrington's approach. Something to keep an eye on. I doubt Pittsburgh dishes out a big contract to get him, but there are teams that will.
Eddie
10-04-2005, 03:11 PM
I'd trade Dexter Coakley and a 4th rounder for Arrington. :)
DCBoysfan
10-04-2005, 03:12 PM
He would need a serious attitude adjustment, though... Cox had a rep as a wild man and bad guy, but I don't think he had the Hollywood Syndrome that Arrington has...

Arrington has been humbled through his entire ordeal..
DCBoysfan
10-04-2005, 03:14 PM
But how can this be? According to 99% of all Skins fan, Arrington is the best OLB in the NFL! Even if he is on the bench.


:D

That just shows their knowledge of the game of football..LOL...
Hiero
10-04-2005, 03:17 PM
Arrington has been humbled through his entire ordeal..
if he truly has, and is willing to play at least somewhat disciplined, we gotta take a look at him. his talent level is huge, he just needs to fully apply himself and focus. im sure he would have some big games against the redskins, and imo would be a good pickup. play him and ware as olb, then slide burnett to the middle with dat, thats one hell of a lb corps.
Manster54
10-04-2005, 06:02 PM
They made a big mistake letting the true leader of their defense, Champ Bailey, go. Portis is decent but just isn't a Gibbs style grinder.
Hiero
10-04-2005, 06:04 PM
Ya I agree, but they had to let him go, he demanded a trade. I dont mind Lavar or Bailey for being disgruntled though. What a hellhole that organization was the past 6 years.
Yeagermeister
10-04-2005, 06:08 PM
No way Parcells would stand for a freelancing player. That's one reason AB is gone.
AbeBeta
10-04-2005, 06:48 PM
For some reason I think we might give Lavar a look -- the freelancing is problematic -- especially given the excellent defensive coaches Lavar has had in Wash. Lavar clearly is a talent though -- if you could get him to play within a system he'd be excellent. If BP sees a little Bryan Cox in him, he might end up here. He's got a little of the swagger we need on the D.

Lavar's problem may be the expectations and the big contract -- guys who freelance often do so because they know they can get away with it -- most coaches won't bench a high #1 pick who is making huge $$. The only reason he isn't playing now is that the Skins know they have to release him and are letting the coaches finally give him some discipline.

This one is at least partially on Snyder - his fingerprints are all over Lavar's poor performances.
dragon_mikal
10-04-2005, 06:49 PM
No way Parcells would stand for a freelancing player. That's one reason AB is gone.


Wasn't LT sort of a freelancer?

I never saw him play, but I've heard that he didn't always do what the coaches wanted him to do.
Mansta54
10-04-2005, 06:53 PM
Ya I agree, but they had to let him go, he demanded a trade. I dont mind Lavar or Bailey for being disgruntled though. What a hellhole that organization was the past 6 years.



Its still a "Hellhole", nothing has changed. Their lil "LUCKY" of winning is about to end and then you will hear the grumbling again. They really aren't good at all...
Hiero
10-04-2005, 06:55 PM
This one is at least partially on Snyder - his fingerprints are all over Lavar's poor performances.

ya i agree, if he had gone to a different team, he would have had more discipline, and had a much better chance to realize his full potential. Now he's suing the Redskins and getting benched.
Yeagermeister
10-04-2005, 07:02 PM
Wasn't LT sort of a freelancer?

I never saw him play, but I've heard that he didn't always do what the coaches wanted him to do.
Probably at times but Arrington is no LT
dragon_mikal
10-04-2005, 07:03 PM
Probably at times but Arrington is no LT

I know Arrington is no LT, but he is pretty damn talented.
Hiero
10-04-2005, 07:07 PM
arrington's still only 27. After such a big problem in Washington who knows what kind of market there would be for him, or if anyone would even want to sign him. If we could steal him in a situation like that at a discount price it would be a big impact to our D, because Arrington although he freelances, is a big time playmaker when hes healthy.
notherbob
10-04-2005, 07:58 PM
When you train a person over and over to react a particular way under certain conditions and he still reverts to his own during stress, he's either not really paying attention or isn't really learning and maybe even doesn't think it pertains to him.
In any event, he hasn't really made any changes and cannot be said to have learned.
Brave
10-04-2005, 08:18 PM
They made a big mistake letting the true leader of their defense, Champ Bailey, go. Portis is decent but just isn't a Gibbs style grinder.
Where, exactly , is this mistake evident?

Washington is playing better defense over the last season and a quarter without Bailey (and largely without Arrington) then they have played in many years.

It's obvious that Greg Williams in the prime reason. There is no single player more important thant the scheme as a whole. Washington has lost Antonio Pierce, Champ Bailey, Fred Smoot and has been without Arrington over the last year+. The result? 2nd or 3rd ranked defense last year and just about the same spot so far this year.
WoodysGirl
10-04-2005, 08:26 PM
Does anybody remember how players were calling Arrington "Can't Get Right" cuz he was struggling learning Marvin Lewis' defense. Says alot to me that he's done so well just on athletic ability alone. In Norv's regime, he did his own thing. With the past two DC's, he's had problems adjusting to their schemes.

Methinks he has trouble learning. Combine that with a suspect attitude and you have disgruntled player.

Personally, I wouldn't him as a Cowboy.
Brave
10-04-2005, 08:34 PM
Arrington's time in DC appears to be coming to an end. I would not be surprised at a trade or for him to be cut during the off season.

The last year has shown that his is not a leader, not a positive force in the locker room and not a disciplined player. His cap hit is huge next year and his play and character simply don't justify keeping him.
Maikeru-sama
10-04-2005, 08:41 PM
Lavar Arrington is an exceptional linebacker that needs to get on a team that has a coach that can fire him up and get through his thick head.

I would love to see him wearing a Cowboys Jersey. Him and Ware tearing up on Sundays in Texas Stadium would be the bomb.

And I am sure Lavar Arrington could care less what his ex-coach said about him, if he said it at all.

- Mike G.
Mansta54
10-04-2005, 08:46 PM
Does anybody remember how players were calling Arrington "Can't Get Right" cuz he was struggling learning Marvin Lewis' defense. Says alot to me that he's done so well just on athletic ability alone. In Norv's regime, he did his own thing. With the past two DC's, he's had problems adjusting to their schemes.

Methinks he has trouble learning. Combine that with a suspect attitude and you have disgruntled player.

Personally, I wouldn't him as a Cowboy.


He's a skin, I would NEVER want him... I just don't like mixing the two clubs, seems unnatural.. You know!!!!!