Jets fans are desperate

[bbgun]

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proof

[parchy]

Our slogan around Vinny was more like "Close your eyes and pray"

[CowboyChris]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play

[Texas33]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play
post of the day ! :D

[Sarge]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play


So sad........................and true.

[CliffnMesquite]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play
:hammer:

[Cowboy4ever]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play

GOOD! I don't want Drew to get hurt,,don't take that from my statement. But if we are going to see if we have a future QB on this roster, we need to play them at some point. Besides, with the way the O is being called this year, either one of the young guns could be successful.

[Hostile]

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proofIs that the fans desperation or the Jets' front office?

I got my money on the Management. It's like the acronym says...

Just
End
The
Season

[TobiasEagle77]

I feel sorry for Jets fans. I really thought that team would be good all around, maybe even go deep in the playoffs. There is nothing that hurts a team more than losing their starting QB, and they've lost two.

[Hiero]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play
:laugh2: hilarious, and thankfully true.

[Justis]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play I'd rather have Vinnie than Romo. The fact that Tony's carrying the Babe Laufenberg seal of approval should make everyone nervous.

[Jarv]

Maybe thats why BP wants to keep all of the games close. If we were blowing out an opponent, he might be forced to put in one of the backup QB's. He'd forfiet 1st !

[1fisher]

Is that the fans desperation or the Jets' front office?

I got my money on the Management. It's like the acronym says...

Just
End
The
Season

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[joseephuss]

This could be an exciting season for the Jets. I think there are enough games left for Vinny to set a NFL record.


Most Passes Had Intercepted, Career
277 George Blanda,
268 John Hadl
266 Fran Tarkenton
255 Vinny Testaverde

[DallasKnight]

Would you rather see Vinny? Or Jeff George? (Who is still available, and his name has been brought up a few times on ESPN for going to workouts with certain teams)

[kojak]

I thought vinny done ok for us last year given the cirmustances. Yeah he threw a few interceptions, and yeah Parcells could of played Henson or Romo a little more in games that were already lost.

But, without Vinny at QB. We would of never gotten the chance to establish some key positions.

TE-Witten.
WR-Crayton
RB-Jones

IMO, these positions here would of suffered somewhat with rookie QB's. Who would of thought Crayton would of emerged as a clutch receiver. Vinny found this out during the washington game last year as did alot of us fans. Only two catches but both were HUGE and game deciding at that.

I wish Vinny the best with the Jets I really do. I think his season really got overshadowed last year with all of the injuries that plagued our receivers.

[kartr]

I feel sorry for Jets fans. I really thought that team would be good all around, maybe even go deep in the playoffs. There is nothing that hurts a team more than losing their starting QB, and they've lost two.

Got news for you, they didn't even have one starting caliber qb before the injuries. Pennington was all but finished after playing hurt last year. He played like crap before getting injured and has never played a full season anyway. Fiedler has been healthy only 1 of the last 6 years and hasn't gotten a team to the playoffs in almost as many and with their schedule, it wasn't likely they would have made the playoffs anyway. The only reason they made the playoffs last year was cause of Lamont Jordan, Kareem McKenzie and QC. Without those guys they were doomed from the beginning.

[blindzebra]

Got news for you, they didn't even have one starting caliber qb before the injuries. Pennington was all but finished after playing hurt last year. He played like crap before getting injured and has never played a full season anyway. Fiedler has been healthy only 1 of the last 6 years and hasn't gotten a team to the playoffs in almost as many and with their schedule, it wasn't likely they would have made the playoffs anyway. The only reason they made the playoffs last year was cause of Lamont Jordan, Kareem McKenzie and QC. Without those guys they were doomed from the beginning.

A new high in ridiculous.

[Vertigo_17]

A new high in ridiculous.
QC led them to the playoffs, yet he's still available. Go figure.

[Kilyin]

I thought vinny done ok for us last year given the cirmustances. Yeah he threw a few interceptions, and yeah Parcells could of played Henson or Romo a little more in games that were already lost.

But, without Vinny at QB. We would of never gotten the chance to establish some key positions.

TE-Witten.
WR-Crayton
RB-Jones

IMO, these positions here would of suffered somewhat with rookie QB's. Who would of thought Crayton would of emerged as a clutch receiver. Vinny found this out during the washington game last year as did alot of us fans. Only two catches but both were HUGE and game deciding at that.

I wish Vinny the best with the Jets I really do. I think his season really got overshadowed last year with all of the injuries that plagued our receivers.

That's pretty much the same way I feel about Vinny. If it weren't for Purcells seemingly glaring need to have him on the field at all times, I really wouldn't mind having him as a backup. You gotta give Vinny some credit for the Seahawks comeback and sweeping the 'Skins.

[gbrittain]

Got news for you, they didn't even have one starting caliber qb before the injuries. Pennington was all but finished after playing hurt last year. He played like crap before getting injured and has never played a full season anyway. Fiedler has been healthy only 1 of the last 6 years and hasn't gotten a team to the playoffs in almost as many and with their schedule, it wasn't likely they would have made the playoffs anyway. The only reason they made the playoffs last year was cause of Lamont Jordan, Kareem McKenzie and QC. Without those guys they were doomed from the beginning.

I gotta give you credit. You are QCs biggest fan. I dont think even Colts fans think more highly of their QB than you do of QC.

[Vertigo_17]

If I remember correctly, Vinny looked pretty darn good in the beginning of the season and then slowly went downhill. Almost like he ran out of gas.

Agree, Vinny's a good option as a backup QB who's not expected to play for an extended part of the season.

[joseephuss]

If I remember correctly, Vinny looked pretty darn good in the beginning of the season and then slowly went downhill. Almost like he ran out of gas.

Agree, Vinny's a good option as a backup QB who's not expected to play for an extended part of the season.

Did you read where Keyshawn thought Vinny was better the 2nd half of the season than the first? Pretty funny stuff.

[Dave_in-NC]

Got news for you, they didn't even have one starting caliber qb before the injuries. Pennington was all but finished after playing hurt last year. He played like crap before getting injured and has never played a full season anyway. Fiedler has been healthy only 1 of the last 6 years and hasn't gotten a team to the playoffs in almost as many and with their schedule, it wasn't likely they would have made the playoffs anyway. The only reason they made the playoffs last year was cause of Lamont Jordan, Kareem McKenzie and QC. Without those guys they were doomed from the beginning.

When you say QC you cant be talking about the druggie who couldnt stay out of rehab long enough to finish the season, can you?

[Vertigo_17]

Did you read where Keyshawn thought Vinny was better the 2nd half of the season than the first? Pretty funny stuff.

didn't see that...do you have a link to the article? Maybe Keyshawn thought Vinny played better once Glenn went down = more balls being thrown his way?

[kartr]

A new high in ridiculous.

Even Herm Edwards admitted they couldn't have made the playoffs without QC.
Without him they would have won only 8 games which was one less than Baltimore and Buffalo which would have disqualified them for the playoffs. You see Brooks Bollinger has been replaced after one start he was so bad. QC had a qb rating of 98 in the games he played, so you're saying that wouldn't help a team to win. You QC Haters are the ones who are rediculous and drug problem or not, he can play better than a third of the starting qb's in the NFL and the coaches that don't bring him deserve to get fired when their teams don't make the playoffs. That's really smart, cutting off your nose to spite you face. There are other players and qbs who have substance abuse problems who are allowed to play. As for missing Lamont Jordan, he looked pretty good Sunday and without him and Kareem McKenzie, the Jets can't run the ball with Curtis Martin on the downside. How's that for analysis?

[Vertigo_17]

[QUOTE=kartr]You QC Haters are the ones who are rediculous and drug problem or not, he can play better than a third of the starting qb's in the NFL and the coaches that don't bring him deserve to get fired when their teams don't make the playoffs.[QUOTE]

Uh, OK? The bottom line is that he's unemployed now and 32 GM's and HC's in this league don't see it your way.

[Doomsday101]

[QUOTE=kartr]You QC Haters are the ones who are rediculous and drug problem or not, he can play better than a third of the starting qb's in the NFL and the coaches that don't bring him deserve to get fired when their teams don't make the playoffs.[QUOTE]

Uh, OK? The bottom line is that he's unemployed now and 32 GM's and HC's in this league don't see it your way.

But they are all fools and don't understand football or the QB position. LOL

[kartr]

QC led them to the playoffs, yet he's still available. Go figure.

Teams that have drug-free qbs that can't play are shunning a qb who can play, but has a drug problem that's not overwhelming(never missed a regular season game because of it). When those coaches lose they're jobs at seasons end, they might be second-guessing themselves.

[Doomsday101]

Teams that have drug-free qbs that can't play are shunning a qb who can play, but has a drug problem that's not overwhelming(never missed a regular season game because of it). When those coaches lose they're jobs at seasons end, they might be second-guessing themselves.

He didn't? is that why he blew town during the playoffs last year? Sorry you did say regular season game. LOL

[LaTunaNostra]

Teams that have drug-free qbs that can't play are shunning a qb who can play, but has a drug problem that's not overwhelming(never missed a regular season game because of it). When those coaches lose they're jobs at seasons end, they might be second-guessing themselves.
"Never missed a regular season game because of it" - what sophistry.

How many times need it be pointed out in the PLAYOFFS the man was nowhere to be found? Carter justified Bill and Jerry's judgment that he could not be trusted and kicked in the teeth the two men who foolishly gave him a second chance - Herm Edwards and Terry Bradway, who if reports are correct, didn't even consider bringing Q back to burn 'em again.

Yes, Quincy is 100 times the QB Bollinger is, and even stoned out of his gourd probably at least Vin's equal these days (no big kudos - VT being on the cusp of 42 and having no offseason/preseason rigorous level of readiness to draw on this week).

But if you want to see full force "desperation", in an NFL fanbase or an FO, just imagine one even contemplating entrusting Quincy Carter with as much as water boy duties again. The man proved in NY he cannot be trusted to stay straight.

I'd prefer to see the clueless Bollinger who values both his membership in the elite club of the NFL and his green and white uni under center than Carter, who TWICE threw away the chances of a lifetime.

Believe it, no one, no HC or GM, is gonna lose his job because he failed to sign Quincy Carter. (especially in NY, where the double whammy of losing Penny and Fiedler on the same day mitigates even future coaching errors this season - when it comes to the hot seat, Herm got taken OFF when he lost his 1 and 2 QBs. Now a .500 record is gonna look like phenomenal coaching)

Whatever upgrade Q would represent on the field is more than overcome by his unreliability, dishonesty, ingratitiude, poor influence, and general lack of character.

When Mother Teresa Edwards gives up on a player, he is a sad case. Herm is a master of tough love with cookies. Take into consderation the Jets support of post-Titans Josh Evans thru his drug problems, signing a guy one step away from a 'permanent' ban. Evans was both contrite and publically fighting his addiction, but still slipped in NY, twice filing and once winning a false test battle...every step of the way the Jets organization was supportive of both the player and the man...with Josh's rehabilitation as important a goal as his bolstering the D. It was pure social work in many aspects , and very few teams will take the time or have the inclination to 'save' a player who is not a front line star.

But then again, for all his drug problems, Evans was an on the field leader, beloved by team mates and fans. Carter most certainly had no such locker room or field presence.

The Jets not wanting Q back speaks much more of Carter's level of desperation than the teams'. As for the fanbase, there are still enough fanatical VTers stuck back in '98 to once again move easily from desperation to delusion.

[Vertigo_17]

Teams that have drug-free qbs that can't play are shunning a qb who can play, but has a drug problem that's not overwhelming(never missed a regular season game because of it). When those coaches lose they're jobs at seasons end, they might be second-guessing themselves.

...unemployed because they didn't sign Quincy Carter?

are you for real?

[FolsomCowboy]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play

I dont know about that, I hear Ray Lucas is available

[HardHittin'Witten]

I dont know about that, I hear Ray Lucas is available

dear God, NO!

[LaTunaNostra]

dear God, NO!
LOL

Don't worry.

Ray's gone into broadcasting.

And even if he hadn't gone to the booth, his back is screwed up bigtime, so there's one old Parcells Guy whose spectre you need not fear.

[HardHittin'Witten]

ok, good. a close friend of mine is a Jets fan and he would cuss like crazy when Lucas would have to play. of course, he's torn up about Pennington gone and Vinny being back.

[kartr]

"Never missed a regular season game because of it" - what sophistry.

How many times need it be pointed out in the PLAYOFFS the man was nowhere to be found? Carter justified Bill and Jerry's judgment that he could not be trusted and kicked in the teeth the two men who foolishly gave him a second chance - Herm Edwards and Terry Bradway, who if reports are correct, didn't even consider bringing Q back to burn 'em again.

Yes, Quincy is 100 times the QB Bollinger is, and even stoned out of his gourd probably at least Vin's equal these days (no big kudos - VT being on the cusp of 42 and having no offseason/preseason rigorous level of readiness to draw on this week).

But if you want to see full force "desperation", in an NFL fanbase or an FO, just imagine one even contemplating entrusting Quincy Carter with as much as water boy duties again. The man proved in NY he cannot be trusted to stay straight.

I'd prefer to see the clueless Bollinger who values both his membership in the elite club of the NFL and his green and white uni under center than Carter, who TWICE threw away the chances of a lifetime.

Believe it, no one, no HC or GM, is gonna lose his job because he failed to sign Quincy Carter. (especially in NY, where the double whammy of losing Penny and Fiedler on the same day mitigates even future coaching errors this season - when it comes to the hot seat, Herm got taken OFF when he lost his 1 and 2 QBs. Now a .500 record is gonna look like phenomenal coaching)

Whatever upgrade Q would represent on the field is more than overcome by his unreliability, dishonesty, ingratitiude, poor influence, and general lack of character.

When Mother Teresa Edwards gives up on a player, he is a sad case. Herm is a master of tough love with cookies. Take into consderation the Jets support of post-Titans Josh Evans thru his drug problems, signing a guy one step away from a 'permanent' ban. Evans was both contrite and publically fighting his addiction, but still slipped in NY, twice filing and once winning a false test battle...every step of the way the Jets organization was supportive of both the player and the man...with Josh's rehabilitation as important a goal as his bolstering the D. It was pure social work in many aspects , and very few teams will take the time or have the inclination to 'save' a player who is not a front line star.

But then again, for all his drug problems, Evans was an on the field leader, beloved by team mates and fans. Carter most certainly had no such locker room or field presence.

The Jets not wanting Q back speaks much more of Carter's level of desperation than the teams'. As for the fanbase, there are still enough fanatical VTers stuck back in '98 to once again move easily from desperation to delusion.

Once again, the bottom line is winning and Carter has done that. Most NFL players have their warts(see Ray Lewis and Leonard Little), yet are allowed second,third and even fourth chances. Many teams, the Jets included started out the season with horrific qb situations(the Jets,Ravens,Dolphins,Bears,Cardinals,etc). If you don't have nothing at qb to begin with, bringing in Carter who will give you a fighting chance even with his warts is a better option than not having on the team. If he fails to stay clean or is ineffective you've only paid him the league minimum anyway and since you wouldn't have won without him, it's worth the chance. If he stays clean and is effective, you saved your job. I don't hear much outrage about the other players who've done much worse than Carter and don't hear much outrage about other people in our society who work in more important fields than sports being given more opportunities. How is it that Q's transgressions get more hate than others that have done so much more wrong. This team was 13-10 in his last 23 starts here, but only 8-12 without him since his departure, that says volumes about where this team is headed.

[Doomsday101]

Once again, the bottom line is winning and Carter has done that. Most NFL players have their warts(see Ray Lewis and Leonard Little), yet are allowed second,third and even fourth chances. Many teams, the Jets included started out the season with horrific qb situations(the Jets,Ravens,Dolphins,Bears,Cardinals,etc). If you don't have nothing at qb to begin with, bringing in Carter who will give you a fighting chance even with his warts is a better option than not having on the team. If he fails to stay clean or is ineffective you've only paid him the league minimum anyway and since you wouldn't have won without him, it's worth the chance. If he stays clean and is effective, you saved your job. I don't hear much outrage about the other players who've done much worse than Carter and don't hear much outrage about other people in our society who work in more important fields than sports being given more opportunities. How is it that Q's transgressions get more hate than others that have done so much more wrong. This team was 13-10 in his last 23 starts here, but only 8-12 without him since his departure, that says volumes about where this team is headed.


Well then go cheer for the team Carter is currently playing on. No one want a QB with a drug problem leading their team.

[kartr]

...unemployed because they didn't sign Quincy Carter?

are you for real?

He's a qb with a winning record and a playoff qb at that. Neither Bledsoe or Vinny have winning records and they haven't taken a team to the playoffs in more than half a decade. And that is the 'real' truth, like it or not. Carter also beat both Vinny and Drew head to head in 2003, plus McNabb,Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins, plus first round qbs Joey Harrington and Patrick Ramsey.
Is that real enough for you?

[blindzebra]

Even Herm Edwards admitted they couldn't have made the playoffs without QC.
Without him they would have won only 8 games which was one less than Baltimore and Buffalo which would have disqualified them for the playoffs. You see Brooks Bollinger has been replaced after one start he was so bad. QC had a qb rating of 98 in the games he played, so you're saying that wouldn't help a team to win. You QC Haters are the ones who are rediculous and drug problem or not, he can play better than a third of the starting qb's in the NFL and the coaches that don't bring him deserve to get fired when their teams don't make the playoffs. That's really smart, cutting off your nose to spite you face. There are other players and qbs who have substance abuse problems who are allowed to play. As for missing Lamont Jordan, he looked pretty good Sunday and without him and Kareem McKenzie, the Jets can't run the ball with Curtis Martin on the downside. How's that for analysis?

The bar has been raised, kudos.:rolleyes:

What part of this don't you understand? No team will touch him, why?

Denny Green was rumored to have Carter on his draft board, Warner goes down and does he call Carter? Nope, he picks up Davey.

The Jets don't loose one QB, but two QBs with starting experience and all they have left is Bollinger, but do they call Quincy? Nope, it's Vinny T to the rescue.

Hell, people are talking to Jeff George and Ryan Leif and nobody is calling Carter, hmmm.

You want to know why? Carter was facing a 4 game suspension because of what he pulled with NY. Quincy's brilliant plan, I'll retire. Well the NFL sees through such things and counts that as another strike, so now the great Quincy Carter is facing a year suspension.

Carter's NFL career is likely over. It is not some elaborate scheme concocted by racist haters that ended his career, either.

You want to no who is to blame? Quincy Carter.

I suppose we could hold all those that put him on that pedestal and always held him blameless and without fault as feeding his self-destructive ways.;)

[LaTunaNostra]

Once again, the bottom line is winning and Carter has done that.

Once again the bottom line is in order to win you need to be able to count on your QB NOT going AWOL during a playoff run, especially when your starter has had to be rushed back from a serious injury. Which of course raises a whole new question - if a rhetorical one - why was Pennington allowed to even throw late last year if not for the lack of faith the CS had in either Quincy's game, ability to stay clear headed, or both?

Most NFL players have their warts (see Ray Lewis and Leonard Little), yet are allowed second,third and even fourth chances.

Ray Lewis is a poor example of unreliability. He'd be the first guy I knew I could depend on on game day. 'Warts' come with the territory, but QBs abandoning their teams during the playoffs have to rank with the mountainous ones, not the molehillish. There is also degree of substance abuse to consider, and all signs point to the Mother of All Monkeys sitting astride Quincy's back.

Has it ever occured to you it is not even in QC's interest to be under the pressure of NFL football right now? That not playing this year, or next, or even retiring for good, might be the best thing that could happen to the man, simply because the pressure fuels his need to 'escape'?

Many teams, the Jets included started out the season with horrific qb situations(the Jets,Ravens,Dolphins,Bears,Cardinals,etc). If you don't have nothing at qb to begin with, bringing in Carter who will give you a fighting chance even with his warts is a better option than not having on the team.

Horrific by your lights maybe, but a recovering Pennington backed by a former starter in Fiedler did not constitute a particularly scary situation a month, or even two weeks ago. The Ravens too were felled by injury to their starter. And despite what anyone thinks of Boller, Billick was giving him another year to prove himself, and Wright as a backup makes a lot more sense than Carter
as he has far less baggage.

Were I Nick Saban, the freaking LAST thought I would entertain as a rookie HC
would be briging in another famous drug/head case, when I had my own much more talented one to rehabilitate in Ricky.

Chicago has suffered an endless whirlwind of years w/o a viable QB, but again, they started the season with Grossman. Lovey Smith is smart enough to know you don't add a drug problem to an already sticky mix. You can be forgiven a Hutch not working out, but what HC with Smith's team talent level has time for Carter's potential nonsense..which is suspension close down the pike? Big help he'd be.

If he fails to stay clean or is ineffective you've only paid him the league minimum anyway and since you wouldn't have won without him, it's worth the chance. If he stays clean and is effective, you saved your job.

You don't seem to get that taking chances based on talent and miscalculating is something all coaches can survive at one time or another, but playing Russian Roullete with AWOLers is something neither press nor fan will forgive. I also doubt Q is any longer looked at by the players as the victim he MAY have been considered after he was released in Dallas. Not after what he pulled in NY.

I don't hear much outrage about the other players who've done much worse than Carter and don't hear much outrage about other people in our society who work in more important fields than sports being given more opportunities. How is it that Q's transgressions get more hate than others that have done so much more wrong. This team was 13-10 in his last 23 starts here, but only 8-12 without him since his departure, that says volumes about where this team is headed.

That cry falls on deaf ears here because many of us, myself included, gave Carter every benefit of the doubt, only to discover later he didn't deserve it.

Q probably wouldn't have done much worse than Vinny in the light of the JJ and Glenn injuries last year, and of course, the QB's best friend (his D) that he had in 03, wouldn't have been around to carry him in 04, but Bledsoe is so superior a quarterback, even with his flaws, that the issue is entirely beggered now.

[dbair1967]

best thing about Vinny being signed to the jets is, in the unfortunate case that Bledsoe goes down, BP will not be able to bring Vinnie back, thus one of our younger QB's will have to play

I'd rather just not see anything happen to Bledsoe...

if Romo or Henson has to play, we're even more sunk than we already are

David

[dbair1967]

He's a qb with a winning record and a playoff qb at that. Neither Bledsoe or Vinny have winning records and they haven't taken a team to the playoffs in more than half a decade. And that is the 'real' truth, like it or not. Carter also beat both Vinny and Drew head to head in 2003, plus McNabb,Jake Delhomme and Kerry Collins, plus first round qbs Joey Harrington and Patrick Ramsey.
Is that real enough for you?

you have some serious problem with this Quincy Carter garbage

what part of "suckarse quarterback" do you not get?

for crying out loud man, the guy cant even get a job as a 3rd QB in a league with 32 teams, with QB's getting injured left and right

David

[Vertigo_17]

Quincy is also allowed a 3rd chance once he serves his 4 game suspension. He's free to sign with any team he chooses. The part you keep missing is that no team wants to sign him

[dbair1967]

Got news for you, they didn't even have one starting caliber qb before the injuries. Pennington was all but finished after playing hurt last year. He played like crap before getting injured and has never played a full season anyway. Fiedler has been healthy only 1 of the last 6 years and hasn't gotten a team to the playoffs in almost as many and with their schedule, it wasn't likely they would have made the playoffs anyway. The only reason they made the playoffs last year was cause of Lamont Jordan, Kareem McKenzie and QC. Without those guys they were doomed from the beginning.

you say Pennington was basically finished and played like crap, yet they didnt think twice about putting him back out there in place of Quincy Carter did they?

and you say the only reason they made the playoffs was because of Carter, Jordan and Kareem Mckenzie? ? did you not notice Curtis Martin leading the league in rushing, or the Jets having one of the top defenses in football? How many games did Carter play in again?

you should have, because its the only reason the Jets won the two games Carter started...they simply put almost no offense out there in the games he QB'd

David

[WoodysGirl]

just something to spike the punch...

Snippet from Lenny P. Tipsheet Punts which was also reported by Mort..




For some reason, former Dallas starting quarterback Quincy Carter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5500), who played for the Jets in 2004, filed his retirement papers with the league Sept. 1. The mysterious move may have been a reaction to the bipolar disorder Carter is said to be battling. The upshot is, though, that Carter could be sanctioned by the NFL if he attempts to unretire during a 12-month period because of his repeat violations of the substance-abuse policy. ...

Tipsheet (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2183376&num=0)

Mort also said he had chemical dependency from depression related to the bipolar disorder. Or something to that effect. The full article is in the NFL Zone.

[blindzebra]

Quincy is also allowed a 3rd chance once he serves his 4 game suspension. He's freee to sign with any team he chooses. The part you keep missing is that no team wants to sign him

Actually, according to Mort on ESPN, he is facing a one year suspension.

A team might be willing to take a chance on a quarter of a season, if the QB can be there in TC and play in preseason...ala Ricky...but nobody is going to sign a guy in season, wait 4 weeks, and hope for the best.

Add 12 more games to that and, well, Carter's career is over.

[Vertigo_17]

Interesting, I thought it was just a 4 game suspension, but if it's a year...

Also, this just in - according to kartr, QC's well worth the wait. Sign him up this year and you're guarenteed playoffs the next year.

Wonder why no other GM has thought about this?

[dbair1967]

Carter's career is over.

nah maybe not....

he could be coming soon to an arena league or canadian team near you!

David