View Full Version : Not bad for a 7th round pick.
Maikeru-sama
10-07-2005, 10:00 PM
Havent had any time at all this week to analyze Patrick Crayton's numbers. Yeah, I know it is a team deal and we are not playing great right now.
But heck
Tied for 3rd in Receptions
2nd on the Team in Touchdowns
2nd on the Team in Receiving Avg
Some of the other measurables that I dont really know are valid at Snap Stats (http://snap.stats.com/stats/nflinfo/playerstats.asp?id=6975), such as "Passes Dropped" and "Percentage of Passes for a 1st Down" are pretty impressive too.
This guy has nothing but upside. I am a little worried that the huge supporting cast in the Receiving Core helps him out tremendously.
- Mike G.
50cent
10-07-2005, 10:05 PM
Thats what a team is supposed to do for one another. Crayton feeds of of the attention that Key and GLenn get, oh yeah and Witten, but when he gets his chances, he produces. I'll take that anyday. How many Wr did we go through that couldn't get open when Mike was here, and he was being doubled all of the time. Crayton has work to do, but his confidence makes up for his faults right now. He shows a cockiness that needs to rub off on some of our other players. The kid just goes and plays ball. Will he ever make a number one Wr? Who knows, but he will be in the league for awhile. IF HE EVER LEARNS TO RUN LOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maikeru-sama
10-07-2005, 10:13 PM
Thats what a team is supposed to do for one another. Crayton feeds of of the attention that Key and GLenn get, oh yeah and Witten, but when he gets his chances, he produces. I'll take that anyday. How many Wr did we go through that couldn't get open when Mike was here, and he was being doubled all of the time. Crayton has work to do, but his confidence makes up for his faults right now. He shows a cockiness that needs to rub off on some of our other players. The kid just goes and plays ball. Will he ever make a number one Wr? Who knows, but he will be in the league for awhile. IF HE EVER LEARNS TO RUN LOWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nah, I wasnt criticizing him for that. I was just trying to lower my expectations because he has such a great supporting class, I dont know if he is capable of doing great things once he becomes the man, or a guy DCs scheme against.
I hope he can, once he learns the position. Right now, I dont know that teams are scheming to stop him just yet. This guy may catch 50 balls this year. That would be a huge leap in productivity.
- Mike G.
DeWare94
10-07-2005, 10:14 PM
people dont realize that terry glenn was also our 7th round pick
Maikeru-sama
10-07-2005, 10:19 PM
people dont realize that terry glenn was also our 7th round pick
Actually, it was a 6th Round pick, but Terry Glenn was a 1st Round pick at one time, Crayton wasnt. I would say Glenn's expectations were a little bit higher...
- Mike G.
50cent
10-07-2005, 10:23 PM
Nah, I wasnt criticizing him for that. I was just trying to lower my expectations because he has such a great supporting class, I dont know if he is capable of doing great things once he becomes the man, or a guy DCs scheme against.
I hope he can, once he learns the position. Right now, I dont know that teams are scheming to stop him just yet. This guy may catch 50 balls this year. That would be a huge leap in productivity.
- Mike G.
Nah, I knew you weren't criticizing him. I love the kid. I used to coach a kid from his college named Mario Woodson. Mario told me then that he had the best hands he ever saw. He couldn't remember a game that Crayton played where he dropped a ball. Mario also told me Lynn Scott would be in the league for 10 years too. They all went to NE OK St together. Said Lynn Scott used to put people in the hospital every week in college.
Maikeru-sama
10-07-2005, 10:31 PM
Nah, I knew you weren't criticizing him. I love the kid. I used to coach a kid from his college named Mario Woodson. Mario told me then that he had the best hands he ever saw. He couldn't remember a game that Crayton played where he dropped a ball. Mario also told me Lynn Scott would be in the league for 10 years too. They all went to NE OK St together. Said Lynn Scott used to put people in the hospital every week in college.
Hahaha. I wonder if they gave Lynn Scott a Fire Fighter Helment to wear in Practice so people knew where he was so as to avoid him like they use to do with old Cliff Harris.
Yes, that guys' hands are amazing. Parcells said they were the best on the team, but I am still not convinced that his are better than Keyshawn's, I think Keyshawn has some of the best hands in the entire NFL.
I just love how Crayton is coming on. He has some very good hands, exceptional size, and is not a burner, but he has what people call "football speed", that kind that is very deceptive and he can get going once he has the ball.
I was reading some article a while back, and it shed light on just how hard it can be to learn the Receiver position (which I thought would be one of the easiest) and this guy looks like he is picking it up fast.
Parcells really is a genius when selecting players. I dont care what anybody says, the old man still has that talent, and most of the players he picks up, are not just players that are good in his system, but could hold their own on other rosters.
- Mike G.
50cent
10-07-2005, 10:49 PM
Hahaha. I wonder if they gave Lynn Scott a Fire Fighter Helment to wear in Practice so people knew where he was so as to avoid him like they use to do with old Cliff Harris.
Yes, that guys' hands are amazing. Parcells said they were the best on the team, but I am still not convinced that his are better than Keyshawn's, I think Keyshawn has some of the best hands in the entire NFL.
I just love how Crayton is coming on. He has some very good hands, exceptional size, and is not a burner, but he has what people call "football speed", that kind that is very deceptive and he can get going once he has the ball.
I was reading some article a while back, and it shed light on just how hard it can be to learn the Receiver position (which I thought would be one of the easiest) and this guy looks like he is picking it up fast.
Parcells really is a genius when selecting players. I dont care what anybody says, the old man still has that talent, and most of the players he picks up, are not just players that are good in his system, but could hold their own on other rosters.
- Mike G.The fact that he doesn't have burner speed and is strong as an oxe, is what perplexes me. It would seem he should spell Key. I know they want to keep Glenn healthy, but we do have PP, don't we? Crayton has all the makings of a possesion WR and thats what Key plays. I just wonder if BP doesn't want to offend his boy by giving Crayton reps at his position.
ghst187
10-07-2005, 10:52 PM
If Bryant would've worked out for us we'd be GREAT at WR AND YOUNG.
What a shame that was, Bryant had serious talent.
Yeah, I love Crayton's game. It's about time some of our draft picks started working out.
As long as Glenn stays healthy we're okay but I am a little concerned about our deep game. Either our guys can't get deep, or we're just not calling the deep plays, or Bledsoe isn't letting it fly deep until we're down in the 4th.
50cent
10-07-2005, 10:57 PM
If Bryant would've worked out for us we'd be GREAT at WR AND YOUNG.
What a shame that was, Bryant had serious talent.
Yeah, I love Crayton's game. It's about time some of our draft picks started working out.
As long as Glenn stays healthy we're okay but I am a little concerned about our deep game. Either our guys can't get deep, or we're just not calling the deep plays, or Bledsoe isn't letting it fly deep until we're down in the 4th.
Yup, and if Stepfret Williams, Clay Shivers, Pittman, Carver, Greg Ellis, QC, Hutch, Henson, turned into Pro-bowlers, we would have 7 SBs wins. If we had drafted Payton Manning, Ray Lewis, Randy Moss, TO, Ed Reed, and everyother pro-bowl player we would monopolize the NFL. I think there is a way to turn back time and do it too.
Bob Sacamano
10-07-2005, 11:01 PM
"If Bryant would've worked out for us we'd be GREAT at WR AND YOUNG.
What a shame that was, Bryant had serious talent."
OMG, Bryant is doing squat currently in Cleveland, I see people are still blinded by his potential *tisk* *tisk*
Crayton has about 15 more yards on 3 less catches, which is a higher ypc average, 2 TDs to AB's nil, and 4 receptions of 20+ yards to AB's nadda, and that's being a 3rd WR, as opposed to being a #2, Bryant, so, that would put the future Jerry Rice, on our roster, at say...Peerless Price, which means he wouldn't have gotten off the field, in this, his contract year, and wouldn't have received a contract extension, see where this is going?
Seven
10-07-2005, 11:37 PM
or a guy DCs scheme against..
I believe they already are.
This guy may catch 50 balls this year.
- Mike G.
He will.
I was reading some article a while back, and it shed light on just how hard it can be to learn the Receiver position (which I thought would be one of the easiest) and this guy looks like he is picking it up fast.
And contrary to what many want to say on here, NAIA is a very low level of football. The fact that he was able to make that jump at all is pretty impressive.
Zman5
10-08-2005, 12:09 AM
Only beef I have with Crayton is he needs work on his TD dance. What the heck was that he was doing after he scored lastweek? It was pathetic. One of the worst TD dances I've ever seen.
Maybe he can get some pointers from T.O. this Sunday.
Dallas4ever
10-08-2005, 12:12 AM
Maybe he can get some pointers from T.O. this Sunday.
Let's hope not.
Joshmvii
10-08-2005, 12:42 AM
We're not the only team having some 7th round receiver love. T.J. Houshmanzadeh was a 7th rounder for Cincy too. Of course, I think he's better than Crayton by a long shot at this point, but Crayton is coming right along.
Seven
10-08-2005, 09:41 AM
Only beef I have with Crayton is he needs work on his TD dance. What the heck was that he was doing after he scored lastweek? It was pathetic. One of the worst TD dances I've ever seen.
Maybe he can get some pointers from T.O. this Sunday.
I hope you're meaning some form of pre-game training.http://cowboyszone.com/forums/images/icons/icon12.gif
WoodysGirl
10-08-2005, 10:24 AM
Only beef I have with Crayton is he needs work on his TD dance. What the heck was that he was doing after he scored lastweek? It was pathetic. One of the worst TD dances I've ever seen.
Maybe he can get some pointers from T.O. this Sunday.I think he was about to do something and then remembered BP and toned it down...LOL
big dog cowboy
10-08-2005, 11:29 AM
Not bad for a 7th round pick.
Who was cut twice last year. Imagine if he weren't a Cowboy.
Eddie
10-08-2005, 12:13 PM
I'd still like to see Peerless Price on the field more.
Heck a few fly patterns to loosen things up wouldn't be a bad idea ...
Hostile
10-08-2005, 12:17 PM
I'd still like to see Peerless Price on the field more.
Heck a few fly patterns to loosen things up wouldn't be a bad idea ...Brian Dawkins might lossen his helmet too though.
FLcowboy
10-08-2005, 04:28 PM
Crayton's touchdown run last week was also top-notch. I'm surprised there wasn't more discussion of it during the week. He caught the ball in stride, broke a tackle, tightroped the sideline, and got into the end zone. He's not afraid to take a shot to catch the ball either.
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