Be a fan thru thick & thin

[RoboQB]

Count me amongst the longtime loyal Cowboy fans.

I live deep in the heart of Redskin land. Which is also Philly land and the land of any team doing well while the skins have stunk it up in the past few years.

Which brings me to my point. Lose all the negative energy fellas. We will be okay. Its a long season. What, do you want to bring back Campo. How 'bout hiring Wannstedt (sp?). He's doing a bang up job at Pitt. Please :rolleyes:

The team has some much young talent. It takes time. We have a great coach with a big ego. He's determined to keep his name alongside many other greats. This guy's hero is Vince Lombardi. We will be right where we need to be in December. Also, we will be in good shape for several years to come.

Oh, and Cowboys WIN!!! BIG! :)

[jksmith269]

Count me amongst the longtime loyal Cowboy fans.

I live deep in the heart of Redskin land. Which is also Philly land and the land of any team doing well while the skins have stunk it up in the past few years.

Which brings me to my point. Lose all the negative energy fellas. We will be okay. Its a long season. What, do you want to bring back Campo. How 'bout hiring Wannstedt (sp?). He's doing a bang up job at Pitt. Please :rolleyes:

The team has some much young talent. It takes time. We have a great coach with a big ego. He's determined to keep his name alongside many other greats. This guy's hero is Vince Lombardi. We will be right where we need to be in December. Also, we will be in good shape for several years to come.

Oh, and Cowboys WIN!!! BIG! :)

I've been a cowboys fan since 1975 thru it all. We have a good team that appears is still searching for an Identity. Hope we find it soon.

[Mattsdad]

True, loyal fans are there through thick and thin....good and bad.........1-15 or 13-3 and Super Bowl.............count me in as a "true" fan. We are on the right track, but there will be growing pains along the way. I do believe we will be 8-8 this year, but a very strong competitor next year.

GO COWBOYS!!!

[junk]

I don't know that blind optimism is the measuring stick for how big of a Cowboys fan a person is.

I'll criticize coaches, players, etc. I'll debate personnel, strategy and scheme with just about anyone. I'll be negative about the team when it is justified.

However, come Sunday, I cheer for every player out there in a Cowboys uniform (even Tyson Walter when he was here). I think that is probably true of about anyone that takes the time to come here and talk Cowboys.

[DallasDomination]

Ok I'm jumping on the bandwagon.


been a fan since 89

[Alexander]

I don't know that blind optimism is the measuring stick for how big of a Cowboys fan a person is.

It isn't. Although some would love to convince you otherwise.

I'll criticize coaches, players, etc. I'll debate personnel, strategy and scheme with just about anyone. I'll be negative about the team when it is justified.

However, come Sunday, I cheer for every player out there in a Cowboys uniform (even Tyson Walter when he was here). I think that is probably true of about anyone that takes the time to come here and talk Cowboys.

Correct. Which is why laundry-rooters confound me.

[DoomsDayD]

I am a huge fan here in Philly land,but i do not look thru rose colored glasses at every cowboy game. I give my honest opinion about what i think of games but that does not mean i am any less a fan if i think they are going to lose. I am here no matter what happens,i might get pissed and upset but hey it happens. All i am asking is for them to show some signs of improvement.

[windward]

I'd say we are all ,with a few exceptions, passionate Cowboys fans. Some may lack long-term perspective and go emotionally overboard with each win and loss, but doesn't make them any less of a fan

[Jay9508]

yup, i know i'm loyal to the cowboys through the good or the badd seasons

[MichaelWinicki]

Unless you hate everything the Cowboys do you're a "homer". ;)

[Silverstar]

Always have been...always will be.






:starspin

[scottsp]

I don't know that blind optimism is the measuring stick for how big of a Cowboys fan a person is.

I'll criticize coaches, players, etc. I'll debate personnel, strategy and scheme with just about anyone. I'll be negative about the team when it is justified.

However, come Sunday, I cheer for every player out there in a Cowboys uniform (even Tyson Walter when he was here). I think that is probably true of about anyone that takes the time to come here and talk Cowboys.


Exactly. Call 'em like you see 'em and raise a question or two when its appropriate to do so. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Like you, I'd love nothing more than for this team to go 19-0 every year and I'll root 'til my dying breath for this club. Short of that, I have no problem with questioning operations from Bill Parcells down to Tony Bua, as I see fit to do so.

Good stuff, junk.

[Alexander]

Unless you hate everything the Cowboys do you're a "homer". ;)

And if you criticize anything, you are a "hater".;)

[baj1dallas]

Well some people are constantly negative about everything Cowboys, and then give the Eagles all this love...

Everybody has their thing they think the Cowboys need to change. But what they really need is to get some experience on defense and intensity on offense. Blaming somebody different every weekend won't change that.

[Wolverine]

Count me amongst the longtime loyal Cowboy fans.

I live deep in the heart of Redskin land. Which is also Philly land and the land of any team doing well while the skins have stunk it up in the past few years.

Which brings me to my point. Lose all the negative energy fellas. We will be okay. Its a long season. What, do you want to bring back Campo. How 'bout hiring Wannstedt (sp?). He's doing a bang up job at Pitt. Please :rolleyes:

The team has some much young talent. It takes time. We have a great coach with a big ego. He's determined to keep his name alongside many other greats. This guy's hero is Vince Lombardi. We will be right where we need to be in December. Also, we will be in good shape for several years to come.

Oh, and Cowboys WIN!!! BIG! :)



I am not sure why you call it being negative. None of us like being negative but the problem is some of try to be real. As for being true fans I would have to say anyone posting on this forum or any Cowboy forum is a true fan. Some of us are just unhappy with the way things are going and think this team is not being coached right. We think this team can be alot better with the exact players it has now.

Call some of us negative but those of us who are negative think this team can be much better then what we see. I almost never bash the players. I htink we have good players on this team. My prob is with the coaches everyone of them including Parcells.

It sure would be nice for just one game since Parcells has been here...just one game for it to look like the team actually prepared for who they are playing and looked like they actually practiced to.

[dargonking999]

count me as a fan who's been through bad times, unfortunatly jsut bad times. been a "real" fan since 97. When i undestood football and well you know the history, so i'm waiting to see the cowboys win the SB, and i can see it in a very near future.

[Alexander]

Well some people are constantly negative about everything Cowboys, and then give the Eagles all this love...

Results bring the love.

I root for this team with a passion, year in, year out. Even being on a message board should be enough to demonstrate any fan's passion about this team (save the inordinate numbers of Redskin and Eagle trolls that are allowed to exist here).

But that does not mean it should be a lovefest.

Everybody has their thing they think the Cowboys need to change. But what they really need is to get some experience on defense and intensity on offense. Blaming somebody different every weekend won't change that.

You put it rather primatively, but you have a quality point.

[dargonking999]

It sure would be nice for just one game since Parcells has been here...just one game for it to look like the team actually prepared for who they are playing and looked like they actually practiced to.


So beating phili in 2003, doesnt count. Stop being so cynical of the coach. Everything that happens isnt his fault.

[scottsp]

So beating phili in 2003, doesnt count. Stop being so cynical of the coach. Everything that happens isnt his fault.


No. It doesn't count. Not now. At one time, it did. Then.

Not everything is his fault. But there are some issues that must be laid at his feet. The man is not a teflon Don. He makes some serious mistakes. He's like most coaches in that regard. It doesn't take away from his legacy. Actually, it only makes him human.

[dargonking999]

No. It doesn't count. Not now. At one time, it did. Then.

Not everything is his fault. But there are some issues that must be laid at his feet. The man is not a teflon Don. He makes some serious mistakes. He's like most coaches in that regard. It doesn't take away from his legacy. Actually, it only makes him human.

No doubt. He makes mistakes, no coach is perfect, but that doesnt mean that we need to replace him.

[scottsp]

That, I have to agree with, dk.

[justbob]

I'm not sure about replacing parcells--but some coaches match up better and can get more out of certain players. Is Parcells the right kind of coach for the group of young
players that we have. ? Or is he the kind of coach that will have them so afraid of messing up that they paly to cautious and not up to their true potential.
been a fan since the 60's and always will. Doesn't mean I can't gripe

[Alexander]

Is Parcells the right kind of coach for the group of young
players that we have. ? Or is he the kind of coach that will have them so afraid of messing up that they paly to cautious and not up to their true potential.

I could understand the rookies messing up because they are scared to make a mistake, but really they aren't. Players like Ware, Canty, Ratliff and so on are playing aggressively. Petitti is giving all out effort.

It is the veterans, like Roy Williams, Flozell Adams and Larry Allen, that are behaving mechanically. I finally brought myself to watch the Raiders game again and I was amazed at how poor Allen and specifically Adams looked.

[notherbob]

I could understand the rookies messing up because they are scared to make a mistake, but really they aren't. Players like Ware, Canty, Ratliff and so on are playing aggressively. Petitti is giving all out effort.

It is the veterans, like Roy Williams, Flozell Adams and Larry Allen, that are behaving mechanically. I finally brought myself to watch the Raiders game again and I was amazed at how poor Allen and specifically Adams looked.
Alexander, I think you hit a sore spot with that.

Allen and Adams were supposed to be the strength and anchor of the line. To say that they are not is to put it mildly. Their laziness and unmotivatability are a poor example to set for the newcomers. They were both influenced by Erik Williams' stoic stubborness and his refusal to care enough to become passionate about playing. Except for his many penalties, he was utterly mechanical and lethargic in his play. He was not worth either his reputatiohn or the money Jethro paid him and his example has rubbed off on Adams and Allen, who are passing it on the the newer players. Are they ever going to care enough to put forth some effort? Any effort? If the future is a mirror or the past, the answer is no.

Of course, being a fan, I like the team anyway and I always hope they will win but I try not to delude myself into thinking they are better than the results they get on the field. To think that the Boys are always the best team and to believe that they will win every game is not being a fan, it's being delusional. Of course, being delusional makes it easier to be a fan. :rolleyes:

[RoboQB]

Just to clarify. Delusional is a word that would not be used to describe my definition of being a fan. Any fan will criticize their team after a loss.

Watching Larry Allen get manhandled by Warren Sapp, of all people, was surreal. But I don't want to get rid of Larry after one bad game. Parcells should never have went for the fake punt in SF. But if it works, he looks like a genius and the team looks unstoppable. Roy Williams should have stayed in deep coverage instead of looking for the big hit across the middle against Washington. But he's a very good player who noticably improved on that in the following game.(even though they still made Rattay look like Marino for 3 quarters)

All who have responded are knowledgable fans. I look forward to reading your posts often. I guess there are some bad apples everywhere and this forum is no different.
I don't wear rose colored glasses but I am optimistic in that we seem to be able to play with anyone. That gives an oppotunity to win every week. In this league, parity is the defining point. One day there will be a SB Champion with a 9-7 record.

Thank you for listening. (uh, I mean, reading)

And don't forget.......Cowboys WIN BIG!!!

[jazzcat22]

I've been a cowboys fan since 1975 thru it all. We have a good team that appears is still searching for an Identity. Hope we find it soon.

We will find it today with a victory over the egirls.

Take it to the :star:

[blindzebra]

I could understand the rookies messing up because they are scared to make a mistake, but really they aren't. Players like Ware, Canty, Ratliff and so on are playing aggressively. Petitti is giving all out effort.

It is the veterans, like Roy Williams, Flozell Adams and Larry Allen, that are behaving mechanically. I finally brought myself to watch the Raiders game again and I was amazed at how poor Allen and specifically Adams looked.

What made it worse was they were not getting beat by speed, which is their usual downfall, but by power.

[BlueStar22]

I hope the players don't feel like the fans and the media here in Dallas. They're giving Philly too much respect. Excuse my french I(and mods too) F*** Philly! Go Cowboys.

One guy this morning said Philly will hang 31 on us. I'm like, do you not remember the game at Philly last year. Despite our struggles with the deep ball, we're a much better team defensively than last year.

[SA_Gunslinger]

i'm here through and through....and NOBODY has it tougher than us cowboy fans in iggle land.

do it for us!

GO COWBOYS!!!

[Da Hammer]

All i gotta say is that fans should alwayz stick by their team (well except if your a Clippers fan, LOL) no matter what but only true fans do and i think most of us on this board are.

[yesfan]

Count me in for 40+ years now as a loyal fan.

[scottsp]

I could understand the rookies messing up because they are scared to make a mistake, but really they aren't. Players like Ware, Canty, Ratliff and so on are playing aggressively. Petitti is giving all out effort.

It is the veterans, like Roy Williams, Flozell Adams and Larry Allen, that are behaving mechanically. I finally brought myself to watch the Raiders game again and I was amazed at how poor Allen and specifically Adams looked.

This is my biggest complaint as well. I am liking very much what I see out of our kiddoes, but some of these vets are just killing me. Mental errors and, at times, just poor effort.