How to use Drew Bledsoe

[TSquare]

I've watched him with NE and Buffalo(yes, I'm from NE, and a Pats fan, and also want to see this guy succeed, because he deserves it and he's fun to watch play) and I know there are several tricks to his success. A few rules:
1) Tight End. Pre-determined slants and quick look-ins. Not as a 3rd read.
2) No Huddle. Throw it in at weird times, not just when the situation demands it. He gets in a zone, and stops thinking, and just frickin slings it.
3) Mix a little draw or even QB keeper in there. He's not slow, just immoble when he sets up to pass. He likes running too. I suspect he likes running more when it's by design. He's a big physical guy and likes mixing it up (when he's initiating the contact.)
4) Mix up your series. Let him wing it in the no-huddle for a series or 2, then grind the running game. Don't let them pin their ears back and come at him.
5) Run a reverse or 2 early, and give him an opportunity on the crack back block. No joke. His first game with Buffalo he laid out a DE and later said that that totally fired him up for the game (he threw about 400 yards, but buff lost to Minn on 2 Kick returns for TDs in a row.)
6) And this isn't a slam... don't ask him to carry the team more than 2 weeks in a row, especially against good defenses. If they know he's dropping back, and the line can't be trusted, he's dead.

Go Cowboys.

[Rack Bauer]

Excellent post, TSquare. I agree 100%.

[Nors]

I've watched him with NE and Buffalo(yes, I'm from NE, and a Pats fan, and also want to see this guy succeed, because he deserves it and he's fun to watch play) and I know there are several tricks to his success. A few rules:
1) Tight End. Pre-determined slants and quick look-ins. Not as a 3rd read.
2) No Huddle. Throw it in at weird times, not just when the situation demands it. He gets in a zone, and stops thinking, and just frickin slings it.
3) Mix a little draw or even QB keeper in there. He's not slow, just immoble when he sets up to pass. He likes running too. I suspect he likes running more when it's by design. He's a big physical guy and likes mixing it up (when he's initiating the contact.)
4) Mix up your series. Let him wing it in the no-huddle for a series or 2, then grind the running game. Don't let them pin their ears back and come at him.
5) Run a reverse or 2 early, and give him an opportunity on the crack back block. No joke. His first game with Buffalo he laid out a DE and later said that that totally fired him up for the game (he threw about 400 yards, but buff lost to Minn on 2 Kick returns for TDs in a row.)
6) And this isn't a slam... don't ask him to carry the team more than 2 weeks in a row, especially against good defenses. If they know he's dropping back, and the line can't be trusted, he's dead.

Go Cowboys.



Bledsoe needs to be used earlier in games - he can do even more than he's shown for Dallas. He's already started to win over Dallas fans - time to take it to the next level!

[TSquare]

Totally agree. True success in the passing game requires attacking early and in situations that aren't necessarily passing situations. Gotta mix it up though. More than ever, a DB offense needs to KEEP THE D HONEST.

[Wolverine]

Bledsoe needs to be used earlier in games - he can do even more than he's shown for Dallas. He's already started to win over Dallas fans - time to take it to the next level!


:hammer:

[Hostile]

I've watched him with NE and Buffalo(yes, I'm from NE, and a Pats fan, and also want to see this guy succeed, because he deserves it and he's fun to watch play) and I know there are several tricks to his success. A few rules:
1) Tight End. Pre-determined slants and quick look-ins. Not as a 3rd read.
2) No Huddle. Throw it in at weird times, not just when the situation demands it. He gets in a zone, and stops thinking, and just frickin slings it.
3) Mix a little draw or even QB keeper in there. He's not slow, just immoble when he sets up to pass. He likes running too. I suspect he likes running more when it's by design. He's a big physical guy and likes mixing it up (when he's initiating the contact.)
4) Mix up your series. Let him wing it in the no-huddle for a series or 2, then grind the running game. Don't let them pin their ears back and come at him.
5) Run a reverse or 2 early, and give him an opportunity on the crack back block. No joke. His first game with Buffalo he laid out a DE and later said that that totally fired him up for the game (he threw about 400 yards, but buff lost to Minn on 2 Kick returns for TDs in a row.)
6) And this isn't a slam... don't ask him to carry the team more than 2 weeks in a row, especially against good defenses. If they know he's dropping back, and the line can't be trusted, he's dead.

Go Cowboys.Wow, very nice post. That was a clinic.

:welcome:

[Nors]

Wow, very nice post. That was a clinic.

:welcome:



Some called this in advance -

many dissed this clinic the whole time.... I could archive a storm of doubters...... :cool: :cool: :cool: dare me? ;)

[Dogstar]

There are dyed in the wool Drew haters going on and on about this and that but they forget that all that matters is this year. This year!

I truly hope they mixit up and are not so predictable on Offense! Go Drew!

[Nors]

There are dyed in the wool Drew haters going on and on about this and that but they forget that all that matters is this year. This year!

I truly hope they mixit up and are not so predictable on Offense! Go Drew!


Go Drew - and at the end of the day tomorrow - he is the guy that can beat the Eagles. Something we have not done much of last 6 years.....We need a fiery offense to put points up..... Will coaches allow that?

[LaTunaNostra]

Some called this in advance -

many dissed this clinic the whole time.... I could archive a storm of doubters...... :cool: :cool: :cool: dare me? ;)
The season's not over yet.

Things started pretty cool in Buffalo too.

Let's also keep in mind Bledsoe's 'retraining' means Bill had to go so far as to make him make his reads bottom-up, so at least part of the so-called conservative game calling is due to Drew's own flaws. Makes it real nice for the receivers who can get downfield when the coaches don't trust the QB to go to them first. When a vet with that much experience is not allowed to open things up because the CS lacks faith in his ability to read the whole field, we're all the losers.

I don't like only racking up 13 lame points vs the Skins and Raiders, and part of the configuration for that reality lies at Drew's past door.

Tsquare, nice post. And also nice to see at least one Pats fan who has not gotten Brady inspired amnesia and revised Bledsoe's entire career in NE as a flop.

[Martice]

Bledsoe needs to be used earlier in games - he can do even more than he's shown for Dallas. He's already started to win over Dallas fans - time to take it to the next level!

Hi Nors. You seem to have a lot of confidence in Drew. I have no problem with that but I will say this though. The more you have Drew "take it to the next level", the more chance you run of him going back to his turnover prone ways. We have seen Drew play four games with us but his long history suggests that he can't be trusted with the keys to the bus. For all of his throwing ability, it's what's going on between the ears that concerns me.

There is more documented history that suggests that if given too much flexibility, Drew will give up the ball at the worst time. I'm not suggesting he is a bad QB but time has shown that the main difference between Brady and Drew is what is going on between the ears and that is decision making.

Brady takes care of the ball better than Drew period. One understands that taking what is available is not always a bad thing and one tends to force the issue and usually at the worst time. Even if we subtract Brady from this scenario, the fact stands that Drew has habits that are not favorable for a QB and if you give this guy the keys to the bus or allow him to "take things to the next level", he will break our hearts like he has done to many fans over his career.

In short, I need more than 4 weeks to be convinced that Bill has broken Drew of these key bad habits.

Only time will tell and I hope my clock is off and I'm wrong.

[Slyster]

Is Bledsoe " really " turnover prone? He doesnt throw many interceptions but I guess he does fumble a bit.. I think that is mainly because of him getting blind-sided in Buffalo so many times. I dont think I have ever seen anyone take that much of a beating and still be able to produce with a crappy line.

I guess Buffalo fans are now finally figuring out that QBs need protection ( Buffalo fan here but also a Drew fan ).

[followthestar]

i'm with you guys - i think Drew has the right stuff and is head and shoulders above the quality we've gotten used to at QB here in Dallas. with decent protection, Drew can put up 30 points on anyone.

make that "if given the chance"...

[MichaelWinicki]

The season's not over yet.

Things started pretty cool in Buffalo too.

Let's also keep in mind Bledsoe's 'retraining' means Bill had to go so far as to make him make his reads bottom-up, so at least part of the so-called conservative game calling is due to Drew's own flaws. Makes it real nice for the receivers who can get downfield when the coaches don't trust the QB to go to them first. When a vet with that much experience is not allowed to open things up because the CS lacks faith in his ability to read the whole field, we're all the losers.

I don't like only racking up 13 lame points vs the Skins and Raiders, and part of the configuration for that reality lies at Drew's past door.

Tsquare, nice post. And also nice to see at least one Pats fan who has not gotten Brady inspired amnesia and revised Bledsoe's entire career in NE as a flop.

Well said Barb. I guess I'm not surprised Nors is chest-thumping about this being some sort of huge success when he (Bledsoe) didn't look good against the Redskins and flat out stank against Oakland.

I suppose in "Nor's World" being able to toss for over 300 yards against perhaps the worst team in the NFL is something to crow about.

The fact is that you're 100% correct on your post. Our conservative play calling has as much to do with the lack of confidence in Bledsoe as it does anything else. You put him in a position where the defense knows that he's throwing virtually every down and the results will be catastrophic.

[Phoenix-Talon]

[QUOTE=TSquare]I've watched him with NE and Buffalo(yes, I'm from NE, and a Pats fan,

There aren't too many teams I actually dislike -- the Patriots is on that short list. But that certainly has nothing to do with you personally! Welcome to this message board. If you stay around, we will most definitely have some interesting dialogue -- but never disrespectful.

Now regarding the subject at hand ...are talking about the "statue?" Don't you think that some QBs are better matched agaist some defensive schemes than Others? Bledsoe could Be better utilized by moving him out of the pocket every once in a while. Kearse and company are chomping at the bit to get to Bledsoe because of His statuesque type profile. Pressure is coming all day log -- in your opinion and history with Bledsoe's method of Qb-ing, how does he hold up under that type of pressure?


By the way, would you say that the window between the Patriots and the rest of the NFL Is closing rapidly; and if so, why -- if not why?

[Martice]

[QUOTE]

Now regarding the subject at hand ...are talking about the "statue?" Don't you think that some QBs are better matched agaist some defensive schemes than Others? Bledsoe could Be better utilized by moving him out of the pocket every once in a while. Kearse and company are chomping at the bit to get to Bledsoe because of His statuesque type profile. Pressure is coming all day log -- in your opinion and history with Bledsoe's method of Qb-ing, how does he hold up under that type of pressure?


In addition, this is why we will see more of the running game and also more quick passes instead of the 'drop back and let it rip' style some may want to see. Also, Bill has a QB to protect and how do you protect your "statuesque" QB when you are playing a blitz happy team like the Eagles? Simple....

YOU RUN THE BALL!!!!!!!

****One thing extra. We were expecting to see a lot of blitzes from the Readskins but we didn't. I guess they respected the passing game and trusted that their front four could apply enough pressure on the QB.

It would be great to have Philly take the same approach as the Skins although I doubt it.

[Phoenix-Talon]

[QUOTE=Phoenix-Talon]

In addition, this is why we will see more of the running game and also more quick passes instead of the 'drop back and let it rip' style some may want to see. Also, Bill has a QB to protect and how do you protect your "statuesque" QB when you are playing a blitz happy team like the Eagles? Simple....

YOU RUN THE BALL!!!!!!!

****One thing extra. We were expecting to see a lot of blitzes from the Readskins but we didn't. I guess they respected the passing game and trusted that their front four could apply enough pressure on the QB.

It would be great to have Philly take the same approach as the Skins although I doubt it.

Noted!;)

[Alexander]

I've watched him with NE and Buffalo(yes, I'm from NE, and a Pats fan, and also want to see this guy succeed, because he deserves it and he's fun to watch play) and I know there are several tricks to his success. A few rules:
1) Tight End. Pre-determined slants and quick look-ins. Not as a 3rd read.
2) No Huddle. Throw it in at weird times, not just when the situation demands it. He gets in a zone, and stops thinking, and just frickin slings it.
3) Mix a little draw or even QB keeper in there. He's not slow, just immoble when he sets up to pass. He likes running too. I suspect he likes running more when it's by design. He's a big physical guy and likes mixing it up (when he's initiating the contact.)
4) Mix up your series. Let him wing it in the no-huddle for a series or 2, then grind the running game. Don't let them pin their ears back and come at him.
5) Run a reverse or 2 early, and give him an opportunity on the crack back block. No joke. His first game with Buffalo he laid out a DE and later said that that totally fired him up for the game (he threw about 400 yards, but buff lost to Minn on 2 Kick returns for TDs in a row.)
6) And this isn't a slam... don't ask him to carry the team more than 2 weeks in a row, especially against good defenses. If they know he's dropping back, and the line can't be trusted, he's dead.

Go Cowboys.

Interesting observations.

Thanks for posting.

[BlueWave]

The season's not over yet.

Things started pretty cool in Buffalo too.

Let's also keep in mind Bledsoe's 'retraining' means Bill had to go so far as to make him make his reads bottom-up, so at least part of the so-called conservative game calling is due to Drew's own flaws. Makes it real nice for the receivers who can get downfield when the coaches don't trust the QB to go to them first. When a vet with that much experience is not allowed to open things up because the CS lacks faith in his ability to read the whole field, we're all the losers.

I don't like only racking up 13 lame points vs the Skins and Raiders, and part of the configuration for that reality lies at Drew's past door.

Tsquare, nice post. And also nice to see at least one Pats fan who has not gotten Brady inspired amnesia and revised Bledsoe's entire career in NE as a flop.

The reason it went south in Buffalo, is the team changed offenses, and failed to resign O-Lineman and WR's that helped in his success. They left the cupboard bare.

[Future]

How to use Drew Bledsoe


THROW THE BALL DOWN THE DAMN FIELD

[Hostile]

Some called this in advance -

many dissed this clinic the whole time.... I could archive a storm of doubters...... :cool: :cool: :cool: dare me? ;)Hold on everyone. Nors is upset that a new poster made a good post on Bledsoe and got some credit. He needs a cookie.

Or is it a medal?

A Brownie button?

I confess, I have no idea what you need in the way of acclimation.

Dude, that was sad. Do you need attention that bad that you need to take a new poster's thunder? Then if we give you the attention you're going to whine about attacks.

[TSquare]

[QUOTE]

There aren't too many teams I actually dislike -- the Patriots is on that short list. But that certainly has nothing to do with you personally! Welcome to this message board. If you stay around, we will most definitely have some interesting dialogue -- but never disrespectful.

Now regarding the subject at hand ...are talking about the "statue?" Don't you think that some QBs are better matched agaist some defensive schemes than Others? Bledsoe could Be better utilized by moving him out of the pocket every once in a while. Kearse and company are chomping at the bit to get to Bledsoe because of His statuesque type profile. Pressure is coming all day log -- in your opinion and history with Bledsoe's method of Qb-ing, how does he hold up under that type of pressure?


By the way, would you say that the window between the Patriots and the rest of the NFL Is closing rapidly; and if so, why -- if not why?

first, on Bledsoe. If he is dropping back predictably and they come at him relentlessly as you said, he's dead without the best possible line. That said, the point of my post is that the 'boys need to mix that in with "keep em honest" running, etc. He's had a couple OC's that have been seduced by their big gun, and fell into the trap of passing way too much, and setting him up as a sack target.

On the pats (off topic, but you asked...) I think the gap IS closing rapidly, but do not underestimate the ability of Belichick to re-invent this team in a matter of weeks. He did it in 2001 (the first year after their 1st SB) after they started slow. Don't count them out.

[LaTunaNostra]

Well said Barb. I guess I'm not surprised Nors is chest-thumping about this being some sort of huge success when he (Bledsoe) didn't look good against the Redskins and flat out stank against Oakland.

I suppose in "Nor's World" being able to toss for over 300 yards against perhaps the worst team in the NFL is something to crow about.

The fact is that you're 100% correct on your post. Our conservative play calling has as much to do with the lack of confidence in Bledsoe as it does anything else. You put him in a position where the defense knows that he's throwing virtually every down and the results will be catastrophic.
Mike, I just want a QB before I die, specially if he's a vet, that our own HC doesn't have to scheme for as much as the opposing DC.

Is it too freaking much to ask that even a BUS DRIVER not limit the offensive game plan to a pre-school level?

[Martice]

Mike, I just want a QB before I die, specially if he's a vet, that our own HC doesn't have to scheme for as much as the opposing DC.

Is it too freaking much to ask that even a BUS DRIVER not limit the offensive game plan to a pre-school level?


Agreed! Nuff said!

[MichaelWinicki]

The reason it went south in Buffalo, is the team changed offenses, and failed to resign O-Lineman and WR's that helped in his success. They left the cupboard bare.


You are absolutely wrong on this assertion...

You or anyone can go back to the mid-point of the 2002 season to find that it was then the "worm turned".

Bledose did extremely well the first 8 games of that season... just outstanding. Even a supposed "hater" like myself we assert that the "Drew Bledsoe" of the first 8 games of 2002 was just flat-out terrific!

BUT, the final 8 games of that season brought Bledsoe-mania to its knees in Orchard Park and across western NY state. You see what happened had nothing to do with "not resigning wide receivers or offensive lineman", but it had everything to do with opposing defenses switching their tactics and doing two things that has frustrated Bledsoe since that mid-way point of 2002.

#1. They took away the deep passes. TD's and passing yards took a big plunge and Ints went up. Defenses took away what Drew Bledsoe does best-- and they continue to do so.
#2. They began to increase the amount they blitzed Bledsoe-- specifically up the middle.

Cupboard bare my rear-end. Sheez.

[MichaelWinicki]

Mike, I just want a QB before I die, specially if he's a vet, that our own HC doesn't have to scheme for as much as the opposing DC.

Is it too freaking much to ask that even a BUS DRIVER not limit the offensive game plan to a pre-school level?


Beautifully said. :)

I admit Barb I'm spoiled. My team has had some outstanding quarterbacks. Even the much maligned Danny White was a fanatastic passer.

I'm sick to death of bus-driver types.

[TSquare]

What we are seeing today is not a "Bus Driver."

[LaTunaNostra]

What we are seeing today is not a "Bus Driver."
That is true, and if Bledsoe plays a second half even close to his first half, he deserves to have Bill take off every semblance of the leash Tuna has had him on.

[TSquare]

That is true, and if Bledsoe plays a second half even close to his first half, he deserves to have Bill take off every semblance of the leash Tuna has had him on.

Not so fast, grasshopper... read points 1 through 6 of my original post!

Especially points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

:)

[LaTunaNostra]

Not so fast, grasshopper... read points 1 through 6 of my original post!

Especially points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

:)
LMAO.

Ok, the choke collar can stay.

But no need to tug on it every minute. :laugh1:

[Hostile]

Not so fast, grasshopper... read points 1 through 6 of my original post!

Especially points 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6.

:)I like this guy.

:grin:

[Dogstar]

I think Pacells must have read your post, either that or he was the original one to know how to use Bledsoe and went back to it!