Peerless Price????

[picka31]

I Know We Have 3 Great Wr Right Now!!! But We Jj Hurt This Should Be A Good Time To Get Price Involed Does Anybody Agree With Me ????

[Juke99]

Who? :D

Parcells doesn't want to take Copper off the roster because of what he brings to the ST game.

My guess is that if JJ can't go, there won't be a huge drop off in production with Thompson/Thomas/Barber.

[cwbyfan72]

Ivolved in what? OUr recievers are doing quite well. Why mess up that chemistry? All we can hope for is another outstanding performance from out O-Line, and we should be okay at RB, regardless if JJ is in or not.

[lurkercowboy]

When in the past have the Cowboys had enough WR talent to keep a guy like Peerless Price on the bench?

[Ashwynn]

I Know We Have 3 Great Wr Right Now!!! But We Jj Hurt This Should Be A Good Time To Get Price Involed Does Anybody Agree With Me ????

How does JJ's injury help get a receiver on the field. You really should replace a back with a back. I think Jones and Parcells are fine in keeping the wraps on Price till hes needed.

When things are going good, why would you want to break up the receiver set we have and get Price on the field.

I doubt we run any 4 receiver sets often. Suiting Price up for 1-2 plays a game makes little sense. If Crayton fumbles, look for Price. Thats what you use an insurance policy for. You dont take a good piece off the field just cause you have something of relatively equal value. The old adage, 'if it aint broken, dont fix it' would apply here.

[blindzebra]

I Know We Have 3 Great Wr Right Now!!! But We Jj Hurt This Should Be A Good Time To Get Price Involed Does Anybody Agree With Me ????

No.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Price is insurance, and not needed at this point.

[Martice]

If the 'O' line is blocking well, look for Price to make an appearance in a 4 WR set. 'A' train will be in to block to help pass protect for Bledsoe. We tried it once this year and went away from it because the 'O' line was still a little shaky at the time.

If what we saw in the Philly game is for real, we can look to seeing PP in some games coming up. Besides it is one of the only looks that we really haven't shown a lot of this year. This game could be the game to do it.

[dargonking999]

Again, who do you replace?

If you go four wide, you take away witten

if you go 3 wide you take away Crayton.

Price, did not come here to play in every game, he came her if Glenn gets hurt, if Crayton gets hurt, if Key gets hurt. He didnt come to start, dont look at the money, they had to find some way of getting him here, i seriously doubted he was going to take 500,000 dollars to sit on the bench when just last year he was a number 1 WR. (didn't play like one....regradlesss of what you think about Vick). Price is an insurance policy, thats it, please get over him, he is not great, he is not good, he isnt better than anything we are putting out there.

[cwbyfan72]

Again, who do you replace?

If you go four wide, you take away witten

if you go 3 wide you take away Crayton.

Price, did not come here to play in every game, he came her if Glenn gets hurt, if Crayton gets hurt, if Key gets hurt. He didnt come to start, dont look at the money, they had to find some way of getting him here, i seriously doubted he was going to take 500,000 dollars to sit on the bench when just last year he was a number 1 WR. (didn't play like one....regradlesss of what you think about Vick). Price is an insurance policy, thats it, please get over him, he is not great, he is not good, he isnt better than anything we are putting out there.

Right! Or he would be out there already!

[dargonking999]

If the 'O' line is blocking well, look for Price to make an appearance in a 4 WR set. 'A' train will be in to block to help pass protect for Bledsoe. We tried it once this year and went away from it because the 'O' line was still a little shaky at the time.

If what we saw in the Philly game is for real, we can look to seeing PP in some games coming up. Besides it is one of the only looks that we really haven't shown a lot of this year. This game could be the game to do it.


Are you sure, because that would mean, putting a rookie in Pettit, up against strahan, are we that sure he's good. Let's not forget, he wasnt alone against kearse, did a good job, but this isnt kearse, and dont forget, going 4 WR, means takeing away one of the best TE in the game in Witten, is Price really worth that price(pun intended:D )

[Everlastingxxx]

I Know We Have 3 Great Wr Right Now!!! But We Jj Hurt This Should Be A Good Time To Get Price Involed Does Anybody Agree With Me ????

How often are you going to keep asking about Price? New Price thread every 4 days? Just gets annoying when you guys start threads about the same thing(s).

[Martice]

Taking away Witten for a play or two during the game won't hurt us at all. It would give us a different look to the opposing defense. The LB or Safety that would normally be assigned to Witten now has PP to deal with. Most of the times we win that match up. I am not in favor of replacing any of our starters permanently for PP. However, I do believe the more looks we can give a defense without hurting our production, the better.

[dargonking999]

Taking away Witten for a play or two during the game won't hurt us at all. It would give us a different look to the opposing defense. The LB or Safety that would normally be assigned to Witten now has PP to deal with. Most of the times we win that match up. I am not in favor of replacing any of our starters permanently for PP. However, I do believe the more looks we can give a defense without hurting our production, the better.

So your saying, price can get open on a S or a LB, better than Witten, a premier TE? Witten has opened things for Glenn, and Crayton, what will price do? He doesnt have better hands, he doesnt run better routes, okay so he's a little faster, but i think with Glenn and Crayton, you really dont need to worry about that. I'm still not understand the taking away of players who can contribute more (IE ratilff sacking Mcnabb last week), jsut for a few plays. He aint worth it. INsurance policy. Only.

[Martice]

So your saying, price can get open on a S or a LB, better than Witten, a premier TE? Witten has opened things for Glenn, and Crayton, what will price do? He doesnt have better hands, he doesnt run better routes, okay so he's a little faster, but i think with Glenn and Crayton, you really dont need to worry about that. I'm still not understand the taking away of players who can contribute more (IE ratilff sacking Mcnabb last week), jsut for a few plays. He aint worth it. INsurance policy. Only.


Never said that PP was the better player. However PP does have speed that Witten doesn't have. Now suppose our 'O' line is playing well. We went 4 WR and we put PP price in. The threat of PP going deep (and he does) will not just make the running lanes open up but would just be a look that will allow us to do some things that we haven't shown yet. Crayton and Witten seem to patrol the same areas on the field, along with KJ. We only have one deep threat and that is TG. I'm sure that we could squeeze PP in for one of the possession receivers that we have on the field for a play or two.

In addition, replacing Witten is not something that we haven't done before. Campbell has replaced Witten on numerous occasions. I believe in the more looks you can give a defense or D. Coordinators that study us, the harder it is to shut us down.

[LaTunaNostra]

What a great signature, 72...and idea.

Nice work, Juke!

[cwbyfan72]

thank you. I gave the idea......Juke did the rest! I freakin love it!

[ScottCase]

I'd turn him loose on about 5 plays. I'd have 5 Set plays for him - even if he is used as a deep threat decoy. I say this b/c if Tyson Thompson and A- Train split the load - the Jints will cheat up on the LOS. You can run TT out of a 4 WR set b/c of his speed - plus Price is no slouch -not by a longshot. Yes, he's had trouble getting into the squad but that doesn't mean he's a stiff. IMO, he's the most talented WR on the roster ...he's just caught up in a glut , and he can't play ST.

[blindzebra]

And this needed to be a new thread?

How about putting it in the other Price thread started 4 hours before yours?

Hell it's not like it is anything new, too bad he's insurance and the way things are going, we should all hope he stays just that.;)

[Rack Bauer]

I Know We Have 3 Great Wr Right Now!!! But We Jj Hurt This Should Be A Good Time To Get Price Involed Does Anybody Agree With Me ????


No. :star:

[Martice]

I'd turn him loose on about 5 plays. I'd have 5 Set plays for him - even if he is used as a deep threat decoy. I say this b/c if Tyson Thompson and A- Train split the load - the Jints will cheat up on the LOS. You can run TT out of a 4 WR set b/c of his speed - plus Price is no slouch -not by a longshot. Yes, he's had trouble getting into the squad but that doesn't mean he's a stiff. IMO, he's the most talented WR on the roster ...he's just caught up in a glut , and he can't play ST.

I agree totally. Drew already said that he was a player. To suggest that he is not a good receiver is silly and the only reason that I can see him not being in the game is that he doesn't practice well. If that is the case, then it's obvious why we haven't used PP in games. I doubt that he is under performing so why not use him a few plays a game?

I think as the season rolls on we will see him on a few plays especially when we play divisional rivals the second time.

You can bet the farm on that.

[Bob Sacamano]

I Know We Have 3 Great Wr Right Now!!! But We Jj Hurt This Should Be A Good Time To Get Price Involed Does Anybody Agree With Me ????

if Price isn't complaining, why is this still an issue?

[Bob Sacamano]

Are you sure, because that would mean, putting a rookie in Pettit, up against strahan, are we that sure he's good. Let's not forget, he wasnt alone against kearse, did a good job, but this isnt kearse, and dont forget, going 4 WR, means takeing away one of the best TE in the game in Witten, is Price really worth that price(pun intended:D )

Pettiti didn't get an inordinate amount of help, he was one-on-one with Kearse more times than he got help

[gimmesix]

I'd turn him loose on about 5 plays. I'd have 5 Set plays for him - even if he is used as a deep threat decoy. I say this b/c if Tyson Thompson and A- Train split the load - the Jints will cheat up on the LOS. You can run TT out of a 4 WR set b/c of his speed - plus Price is no slouch -not by a longshot. Yes, he's had trouble getting into the squad but that doesn't mean he's a stiff. IMO, he's the most talented WR on the roster ...he's just caught up in a glut , and he can't play ST.

Why would the Giants cheat up on the LOS? Thompson and Thomas haven't proven to be big-time running threats and the Giants have bigger reasons to be concerned with our passing game, particularly with a suspect starting corner and rookie nickel corner playing.

The only way the Giants are going to cheat up on the LOS is if Thompson or Thomas show New York can't stop them with six to seven defenders.

[Martice]

if Price isn't complaining, why is this still an issue?


It's not an issue summerisfunner. It's a debate and/or simple exchange of opinions.

I guess you'd like it if we just left this one alone. :rolleyes:

[Bob Sacamano]

I guess you'd like it if we just left this one alone. :rolleyes:

EGGGGGGGGGGXACTLY

and like numerous others have pointed out, keep it in one Price thread

[Martice]

Why would the Giants cheat up on the LOS? Thompson and Thomas haven't proven to be big-time running threats and the Giants have bigger reasons to be concerned with our passing game, particularly with a suspect starting corner and rookie nickel corner playing.

The only way the Giants are going to cheat up on the LOS is if Thompson or Thomas show New York can't stop them with six to seven defenders.

I agree Gimmiesix. This is why I expect a good game from TT and our run blocking.

[Martice]

EGGGGGGGGGGXACTLY

and like numerous others have pointed out, keep it in one Price thread

Are you a mod SIF? If not, don't get too worked up about how the threads are managed. The mods are doing a fine enough job as it is and if they needed a cub scout to help them out with thread management they surely have plenty of other more worthy people to ask before you.

Good try anyway big guy.

*** Peerless should still see the field a few times a game during the second half of the season and that's with a healthy TG.

[Bob Sacamano]

hey, it's a public forum, meaning, I can say whatever I want and you can't do a thing about it, how you like that little guy?

[BledsoetoWittenfortheTD]

I Know We Have 3 Great Wr Right Now!!! But We Jj Hurt This Should Be A Good Time To Get Price Involed Does Anybody Agree With Me ????

There's got to be something wrong with Peerless health wise (perhaps his documented eye problem) that he's not on the field.

But I will be honest, I'm still amazed that Glenn is doing so well...I did not expect this. I figured that Keyshawn would be the leading receiver (in terms of yardage) and crayton would emerge as the #2 guy. Peerless needs to get involved though and add yet another dynamic to this offense. I can't imagine they will keep him on the bench all season given the money they paid him.

[Martice]

hey, it's a public forum, meaning, I can say whatever I want and you can't do a thing about it, how you like that little guy?

Oh yeah??? So can I!!

:p:

Take that!!!

[Martice]

There's got to be something wrong with Peerless health wise (perhaps his documented eye problem) that he's not on the field.

But I will be honest, I'm still amazed that Glenn is doing so well...I did not expect this. I figured that Keyshawn would be the leading receiver (in terms of yardage) and crayton would emerge as the #2 guy. Peerless needs to get involved though and add yet another dynamic to this offense. I can't imagine they will keep him on the bench all season given the money they paid him.

I don't get it BTWFTTD. People around here think to get PP in the game for a few plays is going to hurt our production. The funny thing is that TG has not played a full year in quite a while, you would think that we would like a talent like PP to get some live action so in the case that TG goes down (which is not a stretch) he has regained any chemistry that he may have had with Drew in the past.

Also, we have 3 possession receivers and only one deep threat. Why not take KJ out for a play here or there? Why not take Crayton out for a play or two through out the game? When TG goes out for a play or two, why not bring in PP?

The only reason is that he PP is not up to par with what we have on the field now and the production drop off would be hurtful to the teams overall offensive output.

[LaTunaNostra]

There is no mystery here whatsoever..and there is no health issue with Price.

The simple fact is Bill currently considers Copper's specials contributions to be more important that another speedster on the field for a handful of plays. Price dresses, someone else doesn't.

That could change tomorrow, but until a HC can dress his entire 53, tough decisions have to be made every week.

[Hostile]

There is no mystery here whatsoever..and there is no health issue with Price.

The simple fact is Bill currently considers Copper's specials contributions to be more important that another speedster on the field for a handful of plays. Price dresses, someone else doesn't.

That could change tomorrow, but until a HC can dress his entire 53, tough decisions have to be made every week.Expect a thread asking the same question next week and the week after...

[LaTunaNostra]

Expect a thread asking the same question next week and the week after...
I'd like to see him play as well. More out of curiosity than any difference I think he could make..we aren't becoming a steady four receiver set O in any case. I'm also at least 50-50 on whether the "can't separate" anymore tag that haunted him in Atlanta was true. Not every flaw can be held on Mike Vick.
And I'd like to see what he's currently got so we'd have a better feeling for what we need in receivers for next year's draft.

BUT we just can't subtract a more major contributor from one unit to play one who could spell a Terry, but is not as smart or as quick or as sure-handed, could spell a Key, but is not a blocker or an over the middle specialist , or could spell a well-rounded developing receiver who also returns punts in Patrick.

I think because Price plays a glamorous position, fantasy football and Madden expectations combine with desire to see the O as diversified as possible. But so long as max protect, and blocking are as critical to our offense, I really don't think Bill is going to be in rush to sit a Ratliff, Copper, or Fowler for Price.
Why? Because WE are curious about his speed?

Price could open Bill's eyes by tearing things up in practice, but something tells me he has not done that. He is probably currently a talent that falls between his good year in Buffalo and his bad ones in Atlanta...but anyone who thinks he's Terry Glenn is mistaken. If Terry does get hurt, knock on wood he doesn't, there is still going to be a falloff. I really think Patrick will pick up more of the slack than Price, if that happens.

[Kilyin]

Not every flaw can be held on Mike Vick.

I disagree. No receiver in Atlanta has ever eclipsed 850 receiving yards in a season since Vick came to town. Not even Alge Crumpler. The only receivers to break the 800 yd receiving mark with Vick are Finneran and Price. You have to be talented to get 800+ receiving yards in a run oriented offense with an obvious handicap to your passing game like Michael Vick.

This has nothing to do with Fantasy Football or Madden. I think most people just want to see what Price can do (myself included), after literally having his career "put on ice" since 2003.

[big dog cowboy]

The answer is simple. We didn't want Price to be a Eagle and he is insurance until/when Glenn gets hurt.

[Natedawg44]

:hammer:
Strategic move thats why they paid him so much.

[PaEagleHater]

Nah. lets not activate him. Why don't we just go and activate Marion "fumbles the third" Barber if Jones is inactive. We could have a few turnovers so the Giants have a chance....

[BledsoetoWittenfortheTD]

I don't get it BTWFTTD. People around here think to get PP in the game for a few plays is going to hurt our production. The funny thing is that TG has not played a full year in quite a while, you would think that we would like a talent like PP to get some live action so in the case that TG goes down (which is not a stretch) he has regained any chemistry that he may have had with Drew in the past.

Also, we have 3 possession receivers and only one deep threat. Why not take KJ out for a play here or there? Why not take Crayton out for a play or two through out the game? When TG goes out for a play or two, why not bring in PP?

The only reason is that he PP is not up to par with what we have on the field now and the production drop off would be hurtful to the teams overall offensive output.

I don't understand it either, the guy has been active in what one game?(washington) and had 1 catch. It makes no sense that a threat like this is not getting playing time. Could you imagine this offense with BOTH glenn and PP running deep routes? This guy was a playmaker in buffalo, especially during his only season with Drew back in 02.

I guess I don't understand the rationale that he can't be dressed unless somebody else sits? SO SIT SOMEBODY AND GET HIM IN THE LINEUP!

[BledsoetoWittenfortheTD]

The answer is simple. We didn't want Price to be a Eagle and he is insurance until/when Glenn gets hurt.

I don't buy it, I mean why would you sign a guy just so another team don't? I never heard he was interested in philly to begin with. I thought New England was the only other aggressive suitor? But he turned them down to be reunited with Bledsoe.

As for Glenn getting hurt, I hope that don't happen given his numbers as of today! I just don't understand what parcells is thinking. He is too old school, he must think he needs to dress 10 linebackers, just sit somebody down and find a way to get PP in the lineup!

[dargonking999]

I don't buy it, I mean why would you sign a guy just so another team don't? I never heard he was interested in philly to begin with. I thought New England was the only other aggressive suitor? But he turned them down to be reunited with Bledsoe.

As for Glenn getting hurt, I hope that don't happen given his numbers as of today! I just don't understand what parcells is thinking. He is too old school, he must think he needs to dress 10 linebackers, just sit somebody down and find a way to get PP in the lineup!


but if he does that, then your screenname wont be happening.

[Kilyin]

but if he does that, then your screenname wont be happening.

Exactly, because the only option we have to get Price on the field is to sit Witten. :rolleyes:

[LaTunaNostra]

I disagree. No receiver in Atlanta has ever eclipsed 850 receiving yards in a season since Vick came to town. Not even Alge Crumpler. The only receivers to break the 800 yd receiving mark with Vick are Finneran and Price. You have to be talented to get 800+ receiving yards in a run oriented offense with an obvious handicap to your passing game like Michael Vick.

This has nothing to do with Fantasy Football or Madden. I think most people just want to see what Price can do (myself included), after literally having his career "put on ice" since 2003.
I wanna see what he can do too....so the speculation can end and he can go the way of Galloway, Bryant, and Morgan.

We've got three fine receivers.

And I still got hope for Copper and Crowder. Tom in particular.

[Kilyin]

but if he does that, then your screenname wont be happening.

Hey dargonking, I'm not one to usually dig up old threads, but I'll make an exception for this.

Remember this?

But see people dont care about winning, all they care about is if he can throw the ball, they dont care that your leaning they dont care what potential you have, they just say you suck as a QB because you only threw for 2,000 yards, and you ran all the time.

Which is why i sit back smile and wait for the end of the season when Vick's number look like this

3200 yrds
31 Td's pass
4 td's rushing
300 yards rushing
and 15 INT's
2 Fumbles

From this thread: http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30809

Still think that's going to happen? Vick is on pace for MORE rushing yards than he had in 04 and LESS passing yards. And if you think Vick will ever post a TD/Int ratio like that (And I mean EVER) you're either on drugs, or you should be. You'll also notice even though I didn't really like Bledsoe back then, I knew Bledsoe was the better QB by a large margin. Still disagree with that?

Maybe we can dig this back up after the season is over too.

[dargonking999]

Hey dargonking, I'm not one to usually dig up old threads, but I'll make an exception for this.

Remember this?



From this thread: http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30809

Still think that's going to happen? Vick is on pace for MORE rushing yards than he had in 04 and LESS passing yards. And if you think Vick will ever post a TD/Int ratio like that (And I mean EVER) you're either on drugs, or you should be. You'll also notice even though I didn't really like Bledsoe back then, I knew Bledsoe was the better QB by a large margin. Still disagree with that?

Maybe we can dig this back up after the season is over too.


well he might not get close to those numbers but i think he will still be as efficent. And he will have over 2500 yards passing. remeber it's only been 5 games, and he was hurtlast game.

[dargonking999]

Exactly, because the only option we have to get Price on the field is to sit Witten. :rolleyes:


well when you go four wide, guess who has to come off the field?

[dargonking999]

Hey dargonking, I'm not one to usually dig up old threads, but I'll make an exception for this.

Remember this?



From this thread: http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30809

Still think that's going to happen? Vick is on pace for MORE rushing yards than he had in 04 and LESS passing yards. And if you think Vick will ever post a TD/Int ratio like that (And I mean EVER) you're either on drugs, or you should be. You'll also notice even though I didn't really like Bledsoe back then, I knew Bledsoe was the better QB by a large margin. Still disagree with that?

Maybe we can dig this back up after the season is over too.


and i bleive Bledsoe is a better Passer than vick, as far as accuarcy, but the threat vick brings, no QB has in the league right now.

And 31 to 15 TD/INt ratio is bassically 2 to 1

he has 4 TD's to 2 INT

am i still on drugs?

[Kilyin]

well when you go four wide, guess who has to come off the field?

Who said anything about 4 wide?

[dargonking999]

Who said anything about 4 wide?

go look throught thread and you'll see.

And BTW i serously doubt Price, who has been here 5 games, is better route runner, faster and or has better hands than crayton, or glenn, who he would have ot replace to only go 3 wide.

[Kilyin]

and i bleive Bledsoe is a better Passer than vick, as far as accuarcy, but the threat vick brings, no QB has in the league right now.

And 31 to 15 TD/INt ratio is bassically 2 to 1

he has 4 TD's to 2 INT

am i still on drugs?

Don't get all sensitive on me. Let's discuss this about week 15 or 16, and see who was right. Hint: it won't be you sir.

[Kilyin]

go look throught thread and you'll see.

And BTW i serously doubt Price, who has been here 5 games, is better route runner, faster and or has better hands than crayton, or glenn, who he would have ot replace to only go 3 wide.

Replace Keyshawn on first downs with Price, call it a speed package. There are a myriad of ways to get Price involved, without going 4 wide. Not that I'm opposed to 4 wide, and while others may have mentioned it, I never did.

[dargonking999]

Replace Keyshawn on first downs with Price, call it a speed package. There are a myriad of ways to get Price involved, without going 4 wide. Not that I'm opposed to 4 wide, and while others may have mentioned it, I never did.

and then once again you are removing a productive and better alll around WR( better route running, and better blocker, hands not sure), just for speed, why? why do you want to do this, we have two guys with speed as it is, why have a third, Mis matches are only good if nobdy knows where theguy is gonna go. you put three speed guys like that out there, and babies no where the play is going. You cant be that predictable

[dargonking999]

Don't get all sensitive on me. Let's discuss this about week 15 or 16, and see who was right. Hint: it won't be you sir.


funny thats what they said in that thread, yet here in week 5 somebody has brought it up. So that tells me i might be right.

[RedskinsOne]

No.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Price is insurance, and not needed at this point.

Perhaps he does have many peers. No, no that's not the reason. Parcells is saving him for the NFC title game in January 06. He'll be tanned, rested and ready.

[LaTunaNostra]

Perhaps he does have many peers. No, no that's not the reason. Parcells is saving him for the NFC title game in January 06. He'll be tanned, rested and ready.
By that date Lavar should be plenty rested too. Tho there won't be any title game for him to play in.

DK? I don't know about you, but I've got the patience to wait for Santonio Holmes. ;)

[Kilyin]

funny thats what they said in that thread, yet here in week 5 somebody has brought it up. So that tells me i might be right.

3200 yrds
31 Td's pass
4 td's rushing
300 yards rushing
and 15 INT's
2 Fumbles

Assuming he doesn't get hurt again, Vick is now on pace for about 1700 yards passing, 14 touchdowns, 7 interceptions, about 780ish rushing yards. If you want to argue about mathematics, that's 1500 less passing yards, 17 less touchdowns, and 8 less interceptions than you predicted. These also match typical Vick numbers. I shouldn't have said ratio, since you seem to be clinging to that now.

And all of this boils down to the Michael Vick experience, which much like it did to Price, can make any receiver in the league look bad on paper and on the field. If your receivers don't have confidence that you can get them the ball, they're going to start getting complacent.

[RedskinsOne]

By that date Lavar should be plenty rested too. Tho there won't be any title game for him to play in.

DK? I don't know about you, but I've got the patience to wait for Santonio Holmes. ;)

Absolutely amazing. On the old DMN forumI remember a user by the name "WRZ" who exceeded 10000 posts. You'll easily get past that milestone soon.

By the way, what is "DK" supposed to mean?

And speaking of Santonio, do you mean waiting for him to return that ball back to the ump so that the Wash Redskins can kick off after another glorious TD?

[dargonking999]

Assuming he doesn't get hurt again, Vick is now on pace for about 1700 yards passing, 14 touchdowns, 7 interceptions, about 780ish rushing yards. If you want to argue about mathematics, that's 1500 less passing yards, 17 less touchdowns, and 8 less interceptions than you predicted. These also match typical Vick numbers. I shouldn't have said ratio, since you seem to be clinging to that now.

And all of this boils down to the Michael Vick experience, which much like it did to Price, can make any receiver in the league look bad on paper and on the field. If your receivers don't have confidence that you can get them the ball, they're going to start getting complacent.


on pace at week 5, thats BS, glenn is on pace to get 15 TD's, will he doubt will. Like you said come back at week 15

[Kilyin]

on pace at week 5, thats BS, glenn is on pace to get 15 TD's, will he doubt will. Like you said come back at week 15

If she doesn't get hurt, sure. I think Glenn is going to show what she can do this year.

You can call it BS, but it's much more likely to happen than what you suggested, based on career averages.

Personally I predict more injuries for Vick... so I'm guessing he won't even put up the pedestrian numbers he's on pace for.

:holmes:

[dargonking999]

If she doesn't get hurt, sure. I think Glenn is going to show what she can do this year.

You can call it BS, but it's much more likely to happen than what you suggested, based on career averages.

Personally I predict more injuries for Vick... so I'm guessing he won't even put up the pedestrian numbers he's on pace for.

:holmes:


time will tell sherlock

[baj1dallas]

I disagree. No receiver in Atlanta has ever eclipsed 850 receiving yards in a season since Vick came to town. Not even Alge Crumpler. The only receivers to break the 800 yd receiving mark with Vick are Finneran and Price. You have to be talented to get 800+ receiving yards in a run oriented offense with an obvious handicap to your passing game like Michael Vick.

This has nothing to do with Fantasy Football or Madden. I think most people just want to see what Price can do (myself included), after literally having his career "put on ice" since 2003.


Would you then be equally excited about getting Brian Finneran on the field if he were a Cowboy?

[Kilyin]

Would you then be equally excited about getting Brian Finneran on the field if he were a Cowboy?

Dunno about that. Finneran has no history with Bledsoe and didn't have a 1000+ yard season with him. Price showed steady progress each year in Buffalo before being shipped to Atlanta. There is really nothing to judge Finneran on besides a mediocre career with Vick as his QB.