View Full Version : !!!!!!!!!This Is A Team!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LaTunaNostra
10-16-2005, 03:19 PM
This one proved even more than last week, imho, that the 2005 Dallas Cowboys are a team to be reckoned with.
It wasn't dominating, wasn't glamorous, and sure wasn't a sure thing..but it is exactly the kind of game you have to fight your way out of to be a contender.
A stupendous defensive effort, and battling - not back- but through our own offensive blunders.
When the QB throws a pick and fumbles twice, when the center bad snaps and draws a costly penalty, when the possession receiver fumbles, vet guard or rookie tackle with miscues…..but the same players right their own ships and persevere…that's a TEAM.
The JJ substitutes - all of 'em - inched out every yard they could, (these kids are inspiring!) Keyshawn redeemed himself with a never-give- up-on yourself or teammates performance….that's a TEAM.
The defensive players playing SMART, heads up ball..Anthony Henry intercepting at the ONE, forcing a fumble, Fergy recovering it, Tnew around the ball, Ware with pressure, Glover sacking and Ellis recovering, Spears in pursuit of Manning to null the shotgun, the D tiring but not wavering, and stopping that final Giant red zone by forcing a fumble on the goal line….whether it was a rookie or not, hey Roy……...you always get to play both hero and goat, huh babe...that's a TEAM.
And when the D does wilt in 100 degree heat and let the Tuna Disser Shockey strut his self, who comes back in OT and engineers the winning drive but the error-ridden O..hanging the win on the foot of none other than Jose Cortez. Only going to show that in the clutch, execution can be counted on....because the Dallas Cowboys are playing, FINALLY, like a TEAM!!!
Cbz40
10-16-2005, 03:21 PM
The good teams finds a way to win........even if they do have bad day.
diehard2294
10-16-2005, 03:22 PM
LTN while I agree with alot of your points, it gave me a redskin feeling all over again. I mean we lock Shockey up all game and then all of a sudden we forget to pay attention to him :banghead:
The30YardSlant
10-16-2005, 03:22 PM
We've won 3 games like this....
Hostile
10-16-2005, 03:22 PM
They're going to give me a heart attack this year.
Bizwah
10-16-2005, 03:22 PM
This one proved even more than last week, imho, that the 2005 Dallas Cowboys are a team to be reckoned with.
It wasn't dominating, wasn't glamorous, and sure wasn't a sure thing..but it is exactly the kind of game you have to fight your way out of to be a contender.
A stupendous defensive effort, and battling - not back- but through our own offensive blunders.
When the QB throws a pick and fumbles twice, when the center bad snaps and draws a costly penalty, when the possession receiver fumbles, vet guard or rookie tackle with miscues…..but the same players right their own ships and persevere…that's a TEAM.
The JJ substitutes - all of 'em - inched out very yard they could, (these kids are inspiring!) Keyshawn redeemed himself with a never-give- up-on yourself or teammates performance….that's a TEAM.
The defensive players playing SMART, heads up ball..Anthony Henry intercepting at the ONE, forcing a fumble, Fergy recovering it, Tnew around the ball, Ware with pressure, Glover sacking and Ellis recovering, Spears in pursuit of Manning to null the shotgun, the D tiring but not wavering, and stopping that final Giant red zone by forcing a fumble on the goal line….whether it was a rookie or not, hey Roy……...you always get to play both hero and goat, huh babe...that's a TEAM.
And when the D does wilt in 100 degree heat and let the Tuna Disser Shockey strut his self, who comes back in OT and engineers the winning drive but the error-ridden O..hanging the win on the foot of none other than Jose Cortez. Only going to show that in the clutch, execution can be counted on....because the Dallas Cowboys are playing, FINALLY, like a TEAM!!!
I think we did dominate........for about 55 minutes again.....
The greatest positive we can take from this game--We played poorly, but still won the game.
We made plays when we had to.
I give the Giants credit....they came to play....All the people that thought we would destroy them should now realize that the NFC East will be an old-fashioned fist-fight.
Martice
10-16-2005, 03:23 PM
This one proved even more than last week, imho, that the 2005 Dallas Cowboys are a team to be reckoned with.
It wasn't dominating, wasn't glamorous, and sure wasn't a sure thing..but it is exactly the kind of game you have to fight your way out of to be a contender.
A stupendous defensive effort, and battling - not back- but through our own offensive blunders.
When the QB throws a pick and fumbles twice, when the center bad snaps and draws a costly penalty, when the possession receiver fumbles, vet guard or rookie tackle with miscues…..but the same players right their own ships and persevere…that's a TEAM.
The JJ substitutes - all of 'em - inched out every yard they could, (these kids are inspiring!) Keyshawn redeemed himself with a never-give- up-on yourself or teammates performance….that's a TEAM.
The defensive players playing SMART, heads up ball..Anthony Henry intercepting at the ONE, forcing a fumble, Fergy recovering it, Tnew around the ball, Ware with pressure, Glover sacking and Ellis recovering, Spears in pursuit of Manning to null the shotgun, the D tiring but not wavering, and stopping that final Giant red zone by forcing a fumble on the goal line….whether it was a rookie or not, hey Roy……...you always get to play both hero and goat, huh babe...that's a TEAM.
And when the D does wilt in 100 degree heat and let the Tuna Disser Shockey strut his self, who comes back in OT and engineers the winning drive but the error-ridden O..hanging the win on the foot of none other than Jose Cortez. Only going to show that in the clutch, execution can be counted on....because the Dallas Cowboys are playing, FINALLY, like a TEAM!!!
Hmm... That is one way of looking at it...... I'll see how I feel in the morning.
kojak
10-16-2005, 03:24 PM
The good teams finds a way to win........even if they do have bad day.
I agree. I know it wasn't pretty but when you turn the ball over 4 times and your defense steps up like they did and we pull it off in the end. I will take that anyday.
Good game defense. :starspin
Martice
10-16-2005, 03:25 PM
I think we did dominate........for about 55 minutes again.....
The greatest positive we can take from this game--We played poorly, but still won the game.
We made plays when we had to.
I give the Giants credit....they came to play....All the people that thought we would destroy them should now realize that the NFC East will be an old-fashioned fist-fight.
We should have destroyed them. It was a messy game but we didn't give up and despite all of the errors, I wasn't frustrated like I've been in the past.
LTN, I think I am leaning towards your way of thinking but still, I will let you know in the morning. ;)
Texas33
10-16-2005, 03:25 PM
just win baby ! 4-2
Cbz40
10-16-2005, 03:26 PM
They're going to give me a heart attack this year.
Well Hos I've had 5 in 4games..... :)
zagnut
10-16-2005, 03:26 PM
I'm extremely happy with the Defensive effort. The guys came up big when they needed to, esp. Henry and Ellis. Great efforts by both of them.
TwentyOne
10-16-2005, 03:26 PM
They're going to give me a heart attack this year.
Man for sure. But if they go all the way like that i'll take it.
I am just curious what ranking we have after that win!
Asklesko
10-16-2005, 03:27 PM
They're too inconsistent to consider themselves a legitimate contender. They have to get better.
Juke99
10-16-2005, 03:27 PM
I'm too old for this.
I can only wonder how Cbz feels. :D
LaTunaNostra
10-16-2005, 03:30 PM
We should have destroyed them. It was a messy game but we didn't give up and despite all of the errors, I wasn't frustrated like I've been in the past.
LTN, I think I am leaning towards your way of thinking but still, I will let you know in the morning. ;)
Haha, Martice!
But when you wake up tomorrow, I think you will feel that this type of game can only be won when some individuals STEP UP while others are fumbling..that we now have ENOUGH positive impact to counteract our mistakes (and it could be we have to counteract bad calls, or fluke bad luck next week, or an injury..whatever it is), and the essence of TEAM work is being competent enough to make up for a less than perfect performance elsewhere.
That's a game we wouldn't have won a year ago.
Heck, that's a game we wouldn't have won a month ago.
This defense can PLAY.
Cbz40
10-16-2005, 03:30 PM
I'm too old for this.
I can only wonder how Cbz feels. :D
I took three purple pills......Since that's all I had. I feel 119 yrs old after tht one, :)
DezBRomo9
10-16-2005, 03:31 PM
Well Hos I've had 5 in 4games..... :)
Well Ive had 6 in 5 games, besides Philly and we have won 3, so my math tells me if I have one we win 60% of the time. That percentage could be worse. :)
bbgun
10-16-2005, 03:32 PM
String together two convincing wins in a row and get back to me.
dargonking999
10-16-2005, 03:35 PM
This team finds a way to win every week, and when you can do that, you can always have a winning season,
fiveandcounting
10-16-2005, 03:36 PM
We've won 3 games like this....
and lost 2
Hostile
10-16-2005, 03:37 PM
Well Hos I've had 5 in 4games..... :)Can you hook a pal up with some nitro?
ShiningStar
10-16-2005, 03:38 PM
I took three purple pills......Since that's all I had. I feel 119 yrs old after tht one, :)
i cant say 119 myself...but im feeling a lot closer to 50
The Fonz
10-16-2005, 03:42 PM
Well said LaTunaNostra it is not the same team who lost close games it is a team with heart and they showed it not every game we gonna win it by 40 points beside playing after last game big win and at home the preasure was on the cowboys bravo for them let's see about next week a win will me it even sweeter
Martice
10-16-2005, 03:43 PM
I took three purple pills......Since that's all I had. I feel 119 yrs old after tht one, :)
I took one blue pill and now my wife is in trouble!!
;)
Cbz40
10-16-2005, 03:45 PM
i cant say 119 myself...but im feeling a lot closer to 50
Dam youngun :laugh1:
Hostile
10-16-2005, 03:46 PM
I took one blue pill and now my wife is in trouble!!
;)Git 'r done.
MikeD17
10-16-2005, 03:47 PM
Im with Hostile , Im going to get a heart attack watching this team. I mean when the giants scored I got sick in the stomach, i was almost was going to go to the bathroom to see if i should puke.
Good team win, they battled, the d got tired in the end but they played well today against a good Offense.
4-2 first place ....I like it.
Cbz40
10-16-2005, 03:48 PM
I took one blue pill and now my wife is in trouble!!
;)
Funny mine are purple....I took three :D
Martice
10-16-2005, 03:54 PM
Funny mine are purple....I took three :D
Don't hurt yourself CBZ. We need you around these parts.
CrazyCowboy
10-16-2005, 03:56 PM
This one proved even more than last week, imho, that the 2005 Dallas Cowboys are a team to be reckoned with.
It wasn't dominating, wasn't glamorous, and sure wasn't a sure thing..but it is exactly the kind of game you have to fight your way out of to be a contender.
A stupendous defensive effort, and battling - not back- but through our own offensive blunders.
When the QB throws a pick and fumbles twice, when the center bad snaps and draws a costly penalty, when the possession receiver fumbles, vet guard or rookie tackle with miscues…..but the same players right their own ships and persevere…that's a TEAM.
The JJ substitutes - all of 'em - inched out every yard they could, (these kids are inspiring!) Keyshawn redeemed himself with a never-give- up-on yourself or teammates performance….that's a TEAM.
The defensive players playing SMART, heads up ball..Anthony Henry intercepting at the ONE, forcing a fumble, Fergy recovering it, Tnew around the ball, Ware with pressure, Glover sacking and Ellis recovering, Spears in pursuit of Manning to null the shotgun, the D tiring but not wavering, and stopping that final Giant red zone by forcing a fumble on the goal line….whether it was a rookie or not, hey Roy……...you always get to play both hero and goat, huh babe...that's a TEAM.
And when the D does wilt in 100 degree heat and let the Tuna Disser Shockey strut his self, who comes back in OT and engineers the winning drive but the error-ridden O..hanging the win on the foot of none other than Jose Cortez. Only going to show that in the clutch, execution can be counted on....because the Dallas Cowboys are playing, FINALLY, like a TEAM!!!
My only concern after 5 games.......is our 2 min DEFENSE!
Hostile
10-16-2005, 03:57 PM
My only concern after 5 games.......is our 2 min DEFENSE!I'd agree with you but I don't think we have one.
JDSmith
10-16-2005, 04:01 PM
This one proved even more than last week, imho, that the 2005 Dallas Cowboys are a team to be reckoned with.
It wasn't dominating, wasn't glamorous, and sure wasn't a sure thing..but it is exactly the kind of game you have to fight your way out of to be a contender.
A stupendous defensive effort, and battling - not back- but through our own offensive blunders.
When the QB throws a pick and fumbles twice, when the center bad snaps and draws a costly penalty, when the possession receiver fumbles, vet guard or rookie tackle with miscues…..but the same players right their own ships and persevere…that's a TEAM.
The JJ substitutes - all of 'em - inched out every yard they could, (these kids are inspiring!) Keyshawn redeemed himself with a never-give- up-on yourself or teammates performance….that's a TEAM.
The defensive players playing SMART, heads up ball..Anthony Henry intercepting at the ONE, forcing a fumble, Fergy recovering it, Tnew around the ball, Ware with pressure, Glover sacking and Ellis recovering, Spears in pursuit of Manning to null the shotgun, the D tiring but not wavering, and stopping that final Giant red zone by forcing a fumble on the goal line….whether it was a rookie or not, hey Roy……...you always get to play both hero and goat, huh babe...that's a TEAM.
And when the D does wilt in 100 degree heat and let the Tuna Disser Shockey strut his self, who comes back in OT and engineers the winning drive but the error-ridden O..hanging the win on the foot of none other than Jose Cortez. Only going to show that in the clutch, execution can be counted on....because the Dallas Cowboys are playing, FINALLY, like a TEAM!!!
I'll have to make sure I reread this tomorrow, because right now I'm just not feeling it. To me this feels like a loss. Hopefully I'll be able to share your positive position later.
Tuna Helper
10-16-2005, 04:07 PM
This is much ado about nothing. The NFL's contenders have been winning these types of close games the past 5 years. Look at New England. They have been winning close games for the past 5 years, including their Super Bowls. The only reason why we know who Adam Vinatieri is, is simply because he has had the game winning field goal over and over again, including Super Bowls.
I am not convinced in this theory that we must blow everyone out to be a contender.
I like our chances this year, as I feel that we are New England gone south. We are winning in the same fashion.
LaTunaNostra
10-16-2005, 04:07 PM
I'll have to make sure I reread this tomorrow, because right now I'm just not feeling it. To me this feels like a loss. Hopefully I'll be able to share your positive position later.
It feels like a loss to me in one sense too.
Patrick.
But I've already seen that grave loss blamed on everything from Al Johnson's fumble to Bill's "gutlessness", because we lost PC in OT. I suppose Drew or Roy or Key could take the blame as well.
But we can't look at it that way.
All we can do is wish him the speediest recovery and let him know we miss him.
Hostile
10-16-2005, 04:08 PM
This is much ado about nothing. The NFL's contenders have been winning these types of close games the past 5 years. Look at New England. They have been winning close games for the past 5 years, including their Super Bowls. The only reason why we know who Adam Vinatieri is, is simply because he has had the game winning field goal over and over again, including Super Bowls.
I am not convinced in this theory that we must blow everyone out to be a contender.
I like our chances this year, as I feel that we are New England gone south. We are winning in the same fashion.Great post.
Cbz40
10-16-2005, 04:09 PM
This is much ado about nothing. The NFL's contenders have been winning these types of close games the past 5 years. Look at New England. They have been winning close games for the past 5 years, including their Super Bowls. The only reason why we know who Adam Vinatieri is, is simply because he has had the game winning field goal over and over again, including Super Bowls.
I am not convinced in this theory that we must blow everyone out to be a contender.
I like our chances this year, as I feel that we are New England gone south. We are winning in the same fashion.
:hammer:
JDSmith
10-16-2005, 04:17 PM
It feels like a loss to me in one sense too.
Patrick.
But I've already seen that grave loss blamed on everything from Al Johnson's fumble to Bill's "gutlessness", because we lost PC in OT. I suppose Drew or Roy or Key could take the blame as well.
But we can't look at it that way.
All we can do is wish him the speediest recovery and let him know we miss him.
I happen to think that we did lose Patrick to gutlessness because we were clearly playing for FGs on our last two trips into the redzone. You'd think that Parcells would have learned after the Skins loss, but he hasn't. So he allowed the Giants to stay within 7 simply because he couldn't pull the trigger on anything but 2 yard passes and runs. I don't blame the players, they were out there doing their best. Key made some great plays to go along with any mistakes he made. Roy forced and recovered a fumble at the goal line in addition to blowing the coverage on Shockey. I just can't stand that kind of conservative, close to the vest, let's all pray we don't lose this game (as opposed to going out and actually winning it) play that I see - and I see it coming from the coaches. Last week was great, because we did exactly what we DIDN'T do today. We were aggressive all day long.
I have to be honest, lining up and not going for the 4th down was IMO demoralizing to the team on both sides. You were basically telling the O that you don't have any faith in them to move the ball 6 inches. You were also telling the D that you don't have any faith in them to keep the Giants from going 97 yards to score the go ahead TD. Sorry, but when I've seen some of the stupid decisions to go for it when we're in the first quarter and not even mid field, then to see them do that today just looks gutless. It's easy to make that call when there is nothing on the line, it takes a brass pair to make it when the game has come down to the wire.
Tuna Helper
10-16-2005, 04:18 PM
String together two convincing wins in a row and get back to me.
Sure pal. You must be the type of fan that would pout over a Super Bowl that is WON by only 1 point.
You are living in the past. This is the new NFL, and most Cowboy fans are not used to it. Close games are the norm. You see them all around the league. You see close Super Bowls these days also.
Bill Parcells has modeled this team after the New England Patriots, because they win...and win CLOSE GAMES almost every single week.
If you can't take close games, then either don't watch or go buy a defibrillator.
Its amazing we are 4-2 with no rushing game - None.
Great win, Bledsoe leadership took us down the field. Coaching getting conservative the bane of this team late in games. Gonna bite us.
What I loved about Johnson and 90's cowboys. They had the chance - they ended games aggressively. We are doing 180....
4-2 Life is good!
Bizwah
10-16-2005, 04:34 PM
Yes, good teams should find a way to win close games.
But they shouldn't have close games every single time. Even the Patriots know how to handle a team they should destroy.
I'm not complaining about our team.....to me, a win is a win. But I think a good team wins big against teams that are obviously inferior.
Good teams don't turn the ball over four times. Good teams don't force four TOs and come away with three points. Good teams put other teams away when the opportunity is there.
So far, we nearly gave a game to the hapless Niners. We gave one away to a Redskin team we dominated for 55 minutes, and we've been the lone win for the Raiders.
I'm pleased with big victories over the Chargers and Eagles, and now with the Giants. But we're not there (contender) just yet.
I think we have a lot of growing to do (as does NY). I think we're gonna be tough to beat late in the year.
SA_Gunslinger
10-16-2005, 04:40 PM
good chance to be 6-2 at the bye week.
Eskimo
10-16-2005, 04:58 PM
good chance to be 6-2 at the bye week.
It is tough to win in Seattle. Our offense will need to put up some points because we aren't going to hold Seattle and Alexander in check the way we have the Eagles and Giants.
LeonDixson
10-16-2005, 05:01 PM
I happen to think that we did lose Patrick to gutlessness because we were clearly playing for FGs on our last two trips into the redzone. You'd think that Parcells would have learned after the Skins loss, but he hasn't. So he allowed the Giants to stay within 7 simply because he couldn't pull the trigger on anything but 2 yard passes and runs. I don't blame the players, they were out there doing their best. Key made some great plays to go along with any mistakes he made. Roy forced and recovered a fumble at the goal line in addition to blowing the coverage on Shockey. I just can't stand that kind of conservative, close to the vest, let's all pray we don't lose this game (as opposed to going out and actually winning it) play that I see - and I see it coming from the coaches. Last week was great, because we did exactly what we DIDN'T do today. We were aggressive all day long.
I have to be honest, lining up and not going for the 4th down was IMO demoralizing to the team on both sides. You were basically telling the O that you don't have any faith in them to move the ball 6 inches. You were also telling the D that you don't have any faith in them to keep the Giants from going 97 yards to score the go ahead TD. Sorry, but when I've seen some of the stupid decisions to go for it when we're in the first quarter and not even mid field, then to see them do that today just looks gutless. It's easy to make that call when there is nothing on the line, it takes a brass pair to make it when the game has come down to the wire.
I wouldn't blame the injury to Patrick on the coaches, but I totally agree with you that the play calling in the situations you mention were gutless. Absolutely. And your point about learning nothing after the Skins game is spot on as well.
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