One thing about today that I consider a big positive

[JDSmith]

We won this game without Julius Jones. Now there have been quite a few people who think JJ hasn't been playing as well or that he's struggled more than last year. But I don't agree. I think he's been doing terrific any time he's had a hole. Unfortunately our blocking hasn't been great. Today we went with a RB by committee and averaged a whopping 2.4 yards per carry over 38 rushes. Winning a game when you run 38 times and still don't break 100 yards as a team is no minor accomplishment. The Giants run D is not terrible, but nothing special IMO. If we had JJ I fully expect he would have run for more than 100 yards by himself. So in that light we played a pretty good game on offense, overcoming the loss of a major contributor like JJ.

Then on the other side of the ball, we played without Dat. Shanle seems to be playing well, but he's probably not as good as Dat or he'd be starting.

[Nors]

Nice baseless bash on Shanle.

Fact is our D has missed nothing in Dats absence in 2 big games if you need to do that.

[JDSmith]

How is it a baseless bash of Shanle? He's the backup and Dat is the starter. You assume the starter is better, that's not baseless - it's based on the fact that he's STARTING. If Bill felt that Shanle was better he'd be the starter already.

[dargonking999]

Nice baseless bash on Shanle.

Fact is our D has missed nothing in Dats absence in 2 big games if you need to do that.



But here's the question

is it because WAre has been a bigger force, and our D has grown together getting immense pressure

or because the D stepped up without Dat knowing they had to make up for him being there.


Shanle is not bad, but he is not better than Dat, or Dat would have been traded. (remeber cockley)

[AsthmaField]

Nice baseless bash on Shanle.

Fact is our D has missed nothing in Dats absence in 2 big games if you need to do that.

He wasn't bashing anyone... merely saying that we were missing two starters and still won. Let go of your agenda's for a bit Nors.

The D may not have missed anything in Dat's absence... but I don't think it's gained anything in that absence either.

[Bob Sacamano]

LMFAO! at Nors

[Nors]

Or Maybe Shanle has played stellar and we stuffed Eagles and Giants.... LOL

[dargonking999]

Or Maybe Shanle has played stellar and we stuffed Eagles and Giants.... LOL


Show me where he did something to make them play better.

Did he get the sacks?

Did he get all the presure's

Did he knock down passes in the endzone

Did he stop TO?


Accept the fact that Dat is starting and Shanle will only start (like your boy Price) when somebody gets hurt.

[JDSmith]

Or Maybe Shanle has played stellar and we stuffed Eagles and Giants.... LOL

I don't know if he's played stellar. I don't know enough about the D to be sure one way or the other. That's why I said he SEEMS to be playing well. But then again I'm not nearly as mental as you and I don't take the most innocuous comment as a knock on my pet theories. Nor will I defend those theories as if they are my children.

[Eskimo]

We almost gave up 5 yards per carry today on 19 carries. The only thing that saved our bacon was that the Giants fell in love with their passing attack and did not try to establish their running game.

Next week is going to be a problem without Dat playing Alexander - the Hawks will not let our questionable run D off the hook that easily.

I really hope Dat is back because we will really need him next week.

[Nors]

I don't know if he's played stellar. I don't know enough about the D to be sure one way or the other. That's why I said he SEEMS to be playing well. But then again I'm not nearly as mental as you and I don't take the most innocuous comment as a knock on my pet theories. Nor will I defend those theories as if they are my children.
Dude - no need to call me mental - thats pushing the limit.

Its totally rationale to see that the D without Dat hasn't skipped a beat and Shanle replaced Dat.

Shanle is a player - SEE bp'S pc this week..... :starspin

[JDSmith]

Dude - no need to call me mental - thats pushing the limit.

Its totally rationale to see that the D without Dat hasn't skipped a beat and Shanle replaced Dat.

Shanle is a player - SEE bp'S pc this week..... :starspin

I think it's pushing the limit on being mental when you take what I said, and accuse me of baseless bashing as a result of it. I said he seems to be playing well, but Dat is the starter... and you jumped into the thread with both feet looking for an argument. I'd say that sort of beligerence is kinda mental.

[Nors]

I think it's pushing the limit on being mental when you take what I said, and accuse me of baseless bashing as a result of it. I said he seems to be playing well, but Dat is the starter... and you jumped into the thread with both feet looking for an argument. I'd say that sort of beligerence is kinda mental.

Keep the slander going! lol

Back to the topic - Shanle has filled in for DAT and our defense has not missed a beat. Inf act playing better without Dat and Shanle starting.

[BigDFan5]

Keep the slander going! lol

Back to the topic - Shanle has filled in for DAT and our defense has not missed a beat. Inf act playing better without Dat and Shanle starting.


You love all the backups it seems nors but here in the real world Dat >>> Shanle

[Nors]

maybe - but Shanle has stepped in and we are 2-0.

Nothing missed = fact.

[Bob Sacamano]

Shanle doesn't kick FGs and doesn't play on offense

we're 2-0 cuz we scored 33 points and JOse Cuervo kicked the game-winner, not because Shanle stepped in for Dat and played his part

[BigDFan5]

maybe - but Shanle has stepped in and we are 2-0.

Nothing missed = fact.



So Shanle is the enitre defense now? Did he shut down the Eags? Did he shut down the Giants?


He has had 3 tackles and 1 assist in 2 weeks Shanle has NOTHING to do with how well the D is playing if Dat was there same thing would have happened although Dat would have probably had more tackles

[wesleyc288]

Shanle has done a nice job, but you cant say that if dat were playing we would have went 1-1, or 0-2..... but i will say that shanle has played very well....

[DanTanna]

Dat averages 8 tackles a game - does Shanle do that? Nuff said.

[Nors]

Again - how many points has Shanle's army given up in 2 games? :)

[dargonking999]

Nors let me help you out

Dat> Shanle

Shanle playing with Dat hurt has NOTHING to do with the D, he does not play CB, S or DL, he is one player, and when Dat comes back our D will stillbe dominant and will still be shutting peopledown. Bottom line, you lose game over.

[Nors]

Again - How many points has Shanle's army given up in 2 games?


You'd be killing him if we lost. Fact is we are rocking without Dat.

[dargonking999]

Fact is we are rocking because our DL is getting pressure, becuse Ware has been a force, because our CBs have been holding teams down, Shanle has done NOTHING, to hurt or help the D...get over your infaction for bench warmers, thats all they are.

[Danny White]

maybe - but Shanle has stepped in and we are 2-0.

Nothing missed = fact.
For what it's worth, we're also 2-0 since I bought my Bledsoe Jersey.

Could it be that this purchase has spurred the defense to play lights out?

I see no other option!

P.S. I think this defense is growing up, is getting better every week, and will be only better once Dat is healthy... depth and options. Everyone, including Shanle, has a role to play and I hope he continues to play it. Dat is a bona fide playmaker, though, and I hope to see him back soon.

[WV Cowboy]

Last time I looked Dat was a Cowboy, and Shanle was a Cowboy, .. I'm glad I don't feel the need to choose.

The Cowboys are 4-2.

[Nors]

Hey - Shanle is 2-0 as a starter -

Be carefull what you wish for.

[blindzebra]

Again - How many points has Shanle's army given up in 2 games?


You'd be killing him if we lost. Fact is we are rocking without Dat.

It is posts like this one, and the ones about Price and Bledsoe too, that become so annoying that life long fans actually find themselves having a difficult time not pulling for certain players to fail just to shut you up.

That is some skill you have that fans of 30 plus years are conflicted and can't just sit back and enjoy a win.

You should be proud.:rolleyes:

[Ring Leader]

Hey - Shanle is 2-0 as a starter -

Be carefull what you wish for.

Anthony Thomas is 1-0 as a starter. JJ now on the trading block. :rolleyes:

[Chocolate Lab]

Hey JD --

I thought you made a very good point before someone hijacked your thread. :rolleyes:

[JDSmith]

Hey JD --

I thought you made a very good point before someone hijacked your thread. :rolleyes:

Thanks, unfortunately the hijacking came in reply number 1. I still think it's pretty impressive that we were able to win without our starting RB and while averaging under 3 yards per carry.

[Murph80]

Shanle is better suited for our defense. He is bigger than Dat. Dat is a warrior alot of heart but I believe Shanle is the better start. Anyways it is a real nice problem to have either way. Both can play.

[silverbear]

Fact is we are rocking because our DL is getting pressure, becuse Ware has been a force, because our CBs have been holding teams down, Shanle has done NOTHING, to hurt or help the D...get over your infaction for bench warmers, thats all they are.

Ahhh, but our DL is only getting pressure because the devastating force known as Shanle is back there to cover for their mistakes... with Dat, they had to play more conservatively, because he's clearly not the force that Shanle is...

Demarcus Ware has only been a force because he has that dynamo known as Shanle beside him, forcing other teams to double him, thereby leaving Ware with a single blocker to beat...

And the CBs, well, the CBs are free to focus on tight man coverage because they know they don't have to worry about making any tackles in the running game, with the powerhouse known as Shanle patrolling sideline to sideline...

Face it, the coaches are idiots for not recognizing the all-World talent of Shanle, and making him the centerpiece, the key cog, of their defense right from the start... he's clearly FAR superior to Dat, and is in fact the ONLY reason the Cowboys' defense has played better the last two games...

This reading has been taken from the Gospel According to Nors, the Book of Shanle... can I get an Amen from the congregation??

We will now turn our hymnals to page 23, and sing "(Scott) How Great Thou Art"...

[JDSmith]

Ahhh, but our DL is only getting pressure because the devastating force known as Shanle is back there to cover for their mistakes... with Dat, they had to play more conservatively, because he's clearly not the force that Shanle is...

Demarcus Ware has only been a force because he has that dynamo known as Shanle beside him, forcing other teams to double him, thereby leaving Ware with a single blocker to beat...

And the CBs, well, the CBs are free to focus on tight man coverage because they know they don't have to worry about making any tackles in the running game, with the powerhouse known as Shanle patrolling sideline to sideline...

Face it, the coaches are idiots for not recognizing the all-World talent of Shanle, and making him the centerpiece, the key cog, of their defense right from the start... he's clearly FAR superior to Dat, and is in fact the ONLY reason the Cowboys' defense has played better the last two games...

This reading has been taken from the Gospel According to Nors, the Book of Shanle... can I get an Amen from the congregation??

We will now turn our hymnals to page 23, and sing "(Scott) How Great Thou Art"...

Amen.

Go in peace. Nors be with you.

[silverbear]

Amen.

Go in peace. Nors be with you.

From now on, whenever a poster says something silly, for the sake of stirring the fecal matter, we should just say "the Nors is strong in that one"... ;)

[Manster68]

We won this game without Julius Jones. Now there have been quite a few people who think JJ hasn't been playing as well or that he's struggled more than last year. But I don't agree. I think he's been doing terrific any time he's had a hole. Unfortunately our blocking hasn't been great. Today we went with a RB by committee and averaged a whopping 2.4 yards per carry over 38 rushes. Winning a game when you run 38 times and still don't break 100 yards as a team is no minor accomplishment. The Giants run D is not terrible, but nothing special IMO. If we had JJ I fully expect he would have run for more than 100 yards by himself. So in that light we played a pretty good game on offense, overcoming the loss of a major contributor like JJ.

Then on the other side of the ball, we played without Dat. Shanle seems to be playing well, but he's probably not as good as Dat or he'd be starting.

You know, I was wondering how Dallas would fare without Julius Jones. We found out. Dallas became a little more one dimensional relying on the pass.

If you remember two weeks ago, after the Oakland debacle, I was highly critical of the Cowboys (like calling them spineless pansies). I was especially critical of the inside linebackers (namely Dat, James and Shanle).

Apparently, I wasn't the only one challenging the Cowboy's manhood. Even though I seriously doubt any inside linebacker will make the Pro Bowl anytime soon, they have stepped their game up.

However, keep this in mind:

The Eagles and Giants featured their passing games moreso than their running games. So the play of the inside backers will be much more crucial against the Seahawks (Alexander 141 yds, 4 TDs).

Hopefully, Dallas will bring a much better defense than Houston (boy, do they stink).

[JDSmith]

From now on, whenever a poster says something silly, for the sake of stirring the fecal matter, we should just say "the Nors is strong in that one"... ;)

Oh, I like that a lot.