View Full Version : Calling Out the Price haters.
DallasDomination
10-31-2005, 04:34 PM
Since the begginging I've had this feeling that BP doesnt like Peerelss price. I dont see anything happening that involves him in the game plan.
How are we ever going to find out wht we have with him if we dont give him a chance?
BP is a selfish guy...His guys play and that's it. Lets be honest this was a JJ move and BP wasnt 100% for it.
Well what ever the reason may be I'm not happy with how their treating Price. The guy has courage in his eyes, he wants to play and better yet he really thnks he can help this offense.
I dont know if you guys remember his last season with DB but the guy was not just good he was real good. The seperation problem he according to this had in ATL was non existant. The guy would make his move and get big time seperation giving his QB a good easy target. Kind of like we saw in Seattle for his one and only play.
I guarantee if our offense allows it he will be deadly, maybe even more than Crayton.
Mike 1967
10-31-2005, 04:35 PM
Since the begginging I've had this feeling that BP doesnt like Peerelss price. I dont see anything happening that involves him in the game plan.
How are we ever going to find out wht we have with him if we dont give him a chance?
BP is a selfish guy...His guys play and that's it. Lets be honest this was a JJ move and BP wasnt 100% for it.
Well what ever the reason may be I'm not happy with how their treating Price. The guy has courage in his eyes, he wants to play and better yet he really thnks he can help this offense.
I dont know if you guys remember his last season with DB but the guy was not just good he was real good. The seperation problem he according to this had in ATL was non existant. The guy would make his move and get big time seperation giving his QB a good easy target. King od like we saw in Seattle for his one and only play.
I guarantee if our offense allows it he will be deadly, maybe even more than Crayton.
I'm confused....I thought Bledsoe was the one throwing the passes.
DallasDomination
10-31-2005, 04:36 PM
I'm confused....I thought Bledsoe was the one throwing the passes.
Bledsoe cant make a pass if he's not involved in the game plan or even lined up.
CowboysFan28
10-31-2005, 04:40 PM
He's not even close to being as valuable or as good as Crayton. It's a huge dropoff from Patrick to Price. To believe anything else, is to lie to yourself.
Mike 1967
10-31-2005, 04:40 PM
Bledsoe cant make a pass if he's not involved in the game plan or even lined up.
How many plays has he been lined up in ?
DallasDomination
10-31-2005, 04:45 PM
Ok guys think what ever you want....Just dont start riding his you know what after he breaks out.
DallasDomination
10-31-2005, 04:47 PM
You guys are all the same.......
I remember everyone was on TT bandwagon over one game....But in the dark i was chanting MArion BArbers name.
And now look what happened?
Mike 1967
10-31-2005, 04:54 PM
You guys are all the same.......
I remember everyone was on TT bandwagon over one game....But in the dark i was chanting MArion BArbers name.
And now look what happened?
Are you on medication ?
DallasDomination
10-31-2005, 04:55 PM
Are you on medication ?
you're not getting mad are you?
I have this vibe you just cant wait to insult me.
AbeBeta
10-31-2005, 04:58 PM
Wow, another "BP hates this player and doesn't want him to succeed post" - BP wants to win -- if a player can contribute in the context of his offense he'll play.
In the short time I've been around this board, I haven't really noticed any "Price haters". A lot of people seem to think Crayton is better, because of his blocking and the stuff he can do on third downs, etc..
I haven't seen anyone saying Price is worthless, or washed up... maybe I missed it???
CUPPA COFFEE
10-31-2005, 05:07 PM
there's a reason atlanta released him. there's also a reason buffalo traded him. price is just here as a safety valve in case of injury.
silver
10-31-2005, 05:14 PM
i sometimes chant players names in the dark too.
usually follow the players name with "the precious"
Mike 1967
10-31-2005, 05:15 PM
you're not getting mad are you?
I have this vibe you just cant wait to insult me.
nope...just concerned
blindzebra
10-31-2005, 05:20 PM
Boo freaking who.
It is really simple, Price was brought in as insurance for Glenn getting hurt. He does not fit into our offense, unless he is in Glenn's spot, and guess what?
He is not in that spot. Nor will he bring as much to our offense as Crayton was bringing. As it is he is option number 6 in our offense, which is exactly where he should be.
Juke99
10-31-2005, 05:26 PM
Just stopping into this thread to say, it's ok so far...but it seems like it has potential to turn personal, and we don't want that now then, do we? :)
blindzebra
10-31-2005, 05:45 PM
Just stopping into this thread to say, it's ok so far...but it seems like it has potential to turn personal, and we don't want that now then, do we? :)
Says you, I'm feeling kinda frisky.:)
lspain1
10-31-2005, 05:46 PM
there's a reason atlanta released him. there's also a reason buffalo traded him. price is just here as a safety valve in case of injury.
Hmmmmm.....there was a reason the Patriots traded Bledsoe, and there was a reason Buffalo released him...
How did that work out for the Cowboys?
Mike 1967
10-31-2005, 05:49 PM
Just stopping into this thread to say, it's ok so far...but it seems like it has potential to turn personal, and we don't want that now then, do we? :)
Have you read the title of this thread ?
fortdick
10-31-2005, 05:53 PM
It is real simple. Price is going to have to earn his role. Evidently he hasn't shown wnough in practice to get into the spot to be a factor. Gotta earn your shot, so to speak. If he is that good, he will get a chance, then he has to make the most of it. That can only be good for the team.
Right now, Key, Terry and Witten are getting it done.
Juke99
10-31-2005, 05:58 PM
Says you, I'm feeling kinda frisky.:)
*LMAO*
....funny even though a bit frightening...the last person how said that to me was Winicki and I don't even want to begin to tell you what he tried to do to me after he said it. :eek:
Juke99
10-31-2005, 05:59 PM
Have you read the title of this thread ?
It's the new me....I'm being more lenient. :)
But...I just wanted to remind everyone to play nice...
blindzebra
10-31-2005, 06:06 PM
It's the new me....I'm being more lenient. :)
But...I just wanted to remind everyone to play nice...
You are such a tease.
First you show revulsion at my friskiness and now this blatant come on.;)
Juke99
10-31-2005, 06:07 PM
You are such a tease.
First you show revulsion at my friskiness and now this blatant come on.;)
It was just the vision of Winicki in his Barney boxers that set me off...
Mike 1967
10-31-2005, 06:42 PM
It's the new me....I'm being more lenient. :)
But...I just wanted to remind everyone to play nice...
So...if someone kicks me in the groin I am supposed to play nice :bang2:
Juke99
10-31-2005, 06:45 PM
So...if someone kicks me in the groin I am supposed to play nice :bang2:
I didn't notice your name mentioned in the title of the thread.
In addition, I was simply saying that as things were in this thread, I was ok...But I wanted to remind people to not escalate beyond this.
I am not directing anything toward you.
Hostile
10-31-2005, 06:47 PM
Who are the Price haters?
I haven't seen one single Price hater on this forum.
Editing the title too.
Mike 1967
10-31-2005, 06:52 PM
Who are the Price haters?
I haven't seen one single Price hater on this forum.
Editing the title too.
Perfect !
If he had started with that title the replies would have been fewer and much different ! :)
ghst187
10-31-2005, 06:52 PM
Who are the Price haters?
I haven't seen one single Price hater on this forum.
Editing the title too.
I, also, haven't heard nor remember any Price haters. I think the vast majority here were all supportive of the signing, esp with Glenn's documented fragility. The only apprehension I even remember being posted was that several worried Price would take time from Crayton. I definitely like Price a lot and look for him to get more catches also. However, he's the 4th best passing option we have when he's on the field...after Key, Glenn, and Witten. And when Crayton is healthy, Price is our 4th best WR. I think that much is all pretty clear.
Crayton better compliments our offense right now and Price needs some time to get comfy and the offense comfy with him in order to get more touches.
DallasDomination
11-01-2005, 02:28 AM
Hmmmmm.....there was a reason the Patriots traded Bledsoe, and there was a reason Buffalo released him...
How did that work out for the Cowboys?
The man has a point.
:laugh2:
I love the theory that Parcells won't play a guy because he 1) isn't his guy 2) doesn't like him 3) didn't scout him or pick him.
Ridiculous. I am pretty sure Parcells would outfit his grandma with shoulder pads and send her out if he thought it would get him a win.
Parcells doesn't play guys because either there are better guys in front of them or they will make mistakes that lead to losses.
AbeBeta
11-01-2005, 11:56 AM
:laugh2:
I love the theory that Parcells won't play a guy because he 1) isn't his guy 2) doesn't like him 3) didn't scout him or pick him.
But isn't it so much more fun to think BP has it in for some guys?
Some folks here think BP is an idiot. Of course, they are just projecting their own IQ onto BP.
DCBoysfan
11-01-2005, 12:16 PM
Bledsoe cant make a pass if he's not involved in the game plan or even lined up.
I think since Flozell's injury Dallas is not doing as much 3 - 4 WR sets. I think he will be more involved once we come off this bye.
Mike 1967
11-01-2005, 12:33 PM
I didn't notice your name mentioned in the title of the thread.
I'm not a Price fan.
So I would be one of those "Price Haters"
ABQCOWBOY
11-01-2005, 12:35 PM
This sucks. How bout a thread for the "Price couldn't give a crappers?"
ABQCOWBOY
11-01-2005, 12:37 PM
I hate the PRICE of gas
I hate the PRICE we pay for good tickets.
Hostile
11-01-2005, 12:50 PM
I'm not a Price fan.
So I would be one of those "Price Haters"Similar to yesterday's debate on Zimmer. How would I know you felt you were being called out by the thread author? Minus a signature line detailing your beliefs on every coach or player, I don't see how anyone can assume you and your stances are being addressed.
ravidubey
11-01-2005, 12:52 PM
I've come to trust Parcells' judgement on many things except when it comes to using WR's to open up the passing game. You can talk about needing WR's who can block, needing a roster spot for this or that special teams role-player, etc.-- but the bottom line is BP just does not work WR's into his game plan.
Terry Glenn you'll argue. Well if you'll recall Terry Glenn was essentially forced down BP's throat. He wanted no part of Terry during the 1996 draft, and the circumstances behind Glenn's selection were a major part of why BP left the Patriots.
Keyshawn Johnson, you'll argue. Nope. Played him two seasons in a limitred role as a glorified TE and then traded him for two first round picks used to grab two of Shaun Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington, and Anthony Becht. Let's analyze these selections-- they passed on Plaxico Burress who they liked to take 3-4 End, 3-4 End/LB hybrid, Limp Puppet "decision-making" QB, and blocking TE-- sounds like ball control and defense to me. Oh yeah, they drafted Laverneous Coles in the third round and got lucky because they found a guy who could run the cross-- the only play a BP "game managing" QB can throw-- and turn it into big yardage.
BP passed at times New England because he had no running game and because Drew Bledsoe demanded it-- but he did not pursue "marquee" receivers. Michael Timpson, Ultimate Brisby, Troy Brown-- these were the utility guys Bledsoe had to work with. Bledsoe and Parcells squared off repeatedly on opening up the passing game. Heck he still is doing that. Bledsoe even ditched play calls from Parcells to heave the ball 50 yards downfield and make completions-- which he succeeded at far more than BP liked. I also think Bledsoe was a part of why Bill left New England-- he couldn't control him. I like how Bledsoe has matured and how BP has learned to trust Terry Glenn.
But adding a "non-BP" guy like Galloway or Price? No way-- they make far better decoys and bench-warmers. Sheesh, under Gruden, Galloway has 12 TDs in twelve games (counting his PR) and is running every kind of pattern under the sun and is 39/648 for a 16.6 average. This is with Brian Griese and Chris freaking Simms. Price had 1200+ yards and nearly a 100 catches as a Bill when they actually let him play.
Not going to happen here, I wondered why they even bothered.
Mike 1967
11-01-2005, 12:55 PM
Similar to yesterday's debate on Zimmer. How would I know you felt you were being called out by the thread author? Minus a signature line detailing your beliefs on every coach or player, I don't see how anyone can assume you and your stances are being addressed.
There is no way you would know....only I would know that.
I am not a Price Fan....this guy was calling out people who don't think Price is a major contributor.
I also made a personnal comment when I made the post stating "are you on medication".
Juke rightfully reminded everyone to keep it from getting personal....which I was already guilty of.
I was banging my head because this guy already made it personal...before you changed the title :)
Juke was not specifically pointing me out...nor was the originator of the thread. But in both cases, I fell within the target audience.
Same with the other post you are mentioning....I fell within the target audience. Last year I was upset about the defense...wanted a major change..and was projecting that frustration on Zimmer.
Lastly...I frequent these forums because I like to argue/debate.
And there is no better opportunity for debate than when somebody makes a strong "call-out" on a position that you hold to or have argued in favor of. Which is the other similiarity behind these posts.
But...if people are not comfortable with that...then they should not paint with such a broad brush when they start a thread slamming an opposing view.
But the ironic thing is....at the end of the day....most of the major contributors are here because they also like to argue. It is the nature of the beast.
blindzebra
11-02-2005, 01:37 PM
I've come to trust Parcells' judgement on many things except when it comes to using WR's to open up the passing game. You can talk about needing WR's who can block, needing a roster spot for this or that special teams role-player, etc.-- but the bottom line is BP just does not work WR's into his game plan.
Terry Glenn you'll argue. Well if you'll recall Terry Glenn was essentially forced down BP's throat. He wanted no part of Terry during the 1996 draft, and the circumstances behind Glenn's selection were a major part of why BP left the Patriots.
Keyshawn Johnson, you'll argue. Nope. Played him two seasons in a limitred role as a glorified TE and then traded him for two first round picks used to grab two of Shaun Ellis, John Abraham, Chad Pennington, and Anthony Becht. Let's analyze these selections-- they passed on Plaxico Burress who they liked to take 3-4 End, 3-4 End/LB hybrid, Limp Puppet "decision-making" QB, and blocking TE-- sounds like ball control and defense to me. Oh yeah, they drafted Laverneous Coles in the third round and got lucky because they found a guy who could run the cross-- the only play a BP "game managing" QB can throw-- and turn it into big yardage.
BP passed at times New England because he had no running game and because Drew Bledsoe demanded it-- but he did not pursue "marquee" receivers. Michael Timpson, Ultimate Brisby, Troy Brown-- these were the utility guys Bledsoe had to work with. Bledsoe and Parcells squared off repeatedly on opening up the passing game. Heck he still is doing that. Bledsoe even ditched play calls from Parcells to heave the ball 50 yards downfield and make completions-- which he succeeded at far more than BP liked. I also think Bledsoe was a part of why Bill left New England-- he couldn't control him. I like how Bledsoe has matured and how BP has learned to trust Terry Glenn.
But adding a "non-BP" guy like Galloway or Price? No way-- they make far better decoys and bench-warmers. Sheesh, under Gruden, Galloway has 12 TDs in twelve games (counting his PR) and is running every kind of pattern under the sun and is 39/648 for a 16.6 average. This is with Brian Griese and Chris freaking Simms. Price had 1200+ yards and nearly a 100 catches as a Bill when they actually let him play.
Not going to happen here, I wondered why they even bothered.
This has nothing to do about how Parcells feels about Price.
It is about two things:
1. Price was brought in as insurance for Glenn getting hurt.
2. Parcells is attempting to control the bad Drew, and putting two deep threats on the field, that he has played with before, makes that a lot harder.
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