Why I think Terell Owens will be a Cowboy.

[Wolverine]

This will be a long post so I hope you read it. I have no proof Owens will be a Cowboy. This is all just my opinion and thoughts. Go ahead and read around and you will see this is MY thinking.

I know we could pass on T.O. His behavior could be one of TWO reasons we do not get him. The other reason could be that Philly will trade him for nothing to make sure T.O. never becomes a Cowboy.


Well first take a look at this post Woodys Girl put up.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39982 (http://)
Read real close what a few Cowboy players and Parcells said. I guess you can get what you want from it but to me I think they are being very careful what the say. And IMO for one reason. They all know we are gonna make a big move for T.O.


Think about this.

Parcells is near the end of his contract. My guess is he extends it another 2 years and then calls it quits for good. He would love to go out winning 1 or 2 more Super Bowl. Terell Owens is the one player that can give this team such a big impact player that it would make us into Super Bowl contenders right away.

Look. We fix our biggest weakness the OL and that can be done. We get T.O. and now we have one of the best 3 WRs in the game. He will give us a huge WR that is a very dangerous deep threat. A WR that can take any catch to the house at any time.

He will open up our running game. He will open up our other WRs to.

Like what Irvin said or not....we do not have a real #1 WR. We have a bunch of #2 WRs.


Glenn and Keyshawn do not give DCs nights where they can not go to sleep. Terell Owens does.


If Owens goes to the Cowboys I think he will behave good. And for 2 reasons

1. Parcells might be the only coach who can control him and that Owens would respect.

2. I do not think Owens would wanna do something to let Michael Irvin down. Oh yeah I know it sounds silly here but who is one of the few people who is defending Owens. It is Irvin. If Irvin tells him to go to Dallas and I bet he does then I think Owens will do good here and behave.


Also. Dont think Parcells does not see what a hard worker Owens is. I can guarentee you BP saw the super hard work Owens put in just to make it back to the Super Bowl. You can bet things like that could make him a Parcells Guy!

Yeah T.O. wants money but he also wants to win. He also wants to win Super Bowls. Dont fool yourself.

I also think Owens would like to be here for some reasons.

1. He sees this team is on the up and he could be a big part in it winning Super Bowls.

2. He hates the Eagles and their fans. What better way to get back at them then to be a Cowboy and win Super Bowls as a Cowboy. And get to taunt them 2 times a year. Oh believe me....Owens knows being a Cowboy would p*ss off Eagle fans more then going to any other team.


We seriously are a big play WR and improved OL away from being maybe a dynasty team. We get Owens and improve that line....well it can be done.


Now think about this. Here is how we give Owens his big contract.

Make it for 3 years.

1st year is guarenteed. each year after is a option. Now the way it works is this. He makes the smallest amount of money his 1st year. Then gets a huge jump in $$$$ year #2 and a bigger jump in year #3. He will get his money IFFFFFF HE BEHAVES!!! And then give him a special bonus for every Super Bowl the Cowboys win.

If he becomes a problem his 1st year here we can cut him and not use the options.

A contract can be done to get him $$$$ and make him a good player here.


I do not know about the rest of you but if we sign T.O. and I think we will. I back the move cuz I know it will be very good for us.


Think about it. BP will be around 3 more years after this at the most. T.O. is a money player that can win him some Super Bowls on his way out. My guess is he is not gonna pass this one up. Maybe I am wrong.....but with this what I bring up you now have to think I have a good point.

[JDSmith]

How bad must it be for your own teammates to hold a vote and then ask management to get rid of you? How bad must it be for that to happen when you are one of the best players in the league at your position? How bad must it be for management to agree with the players?

If the Cowboys sign TO I'll no longer watch the team. It's as simple as that. I won't follow football, I'll just find something else to do with my Sundays. TO is everything that's wrong with sports, condensed into a black hole of ego. He warps the very fabric of space time around him and sucks in any light the team might otherwise generate. His teammates hate him, and would rather try to win without him - even though he's among the best players at his position in the league. They feel they have a better chance if he's sitting home. I agree, and I'm sure Parcells does too. If he doesn't - then the Cowboys will have at least one less fan, because I can not support or root for that piece of ****e no matter what.

[Richmond Cowboy]

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[Fletch]

How bad must it be for your own teammates to hold a vote and then ask management to get rid of you? How bad must it be for that to happen when you are one of the best players in the league at your position? How bad must it be for management to agree with the players?

If the Cowboys sign TO I'll no longer watch the team. It's as simple as that. I won't follow football, I'll just find something else to do with my Sundays. TO is everything that's wrong with sports, condensed into a black hole of ego. He warps the very fabric of space time around him and sucks in any light the team might otherwise generate. His teammates hate him, and would rather try to win without him - even though he's among the best players at his position in the league. They feel they have a better chance if he's sitting home. I agree, and I'm sure Parcells does too. If he doesn't - then the Cowboys will have at least one less fan, because I can not support or root for that piece of ****e no matter what.

Heck, I'll watch for sure. But I doubt the Cowboys offer Owens a contract.

[CactusCowboy]

I don't think so.

[JDSmith]

Heck, I'll watch for sure. But I doubt the Cowboys offer Owens a contract.

I honestly wouldn't. I simply can't root for TO under any circumstances. Luckily you are right and the Cowboys are unlikely to offer him any contract, much less the billions he wants.

[Alexander]

How bad must it be for your own teammates to hold a vote and then ask management to get rid of you?

Is this a fact?

If so, could you provide a link, because this is the first I have heard about the Philadelphia Eagles' version of Tribal Council.

[SupermanXx]

I wouldn't be opposed in the least

what's the worst that could happen?

Bill Parcells straightens him out or he gets cut.

I don't see what the big deal is and I think those who don't want to "taint the image of this 5 Super Bowl ' and America's" team bullcrap are taking it way too far

[Mansta54]

This will be a long post so I hope you read it. I have no proof Owens will be a Cowboy. This is all just my opinion and thoughts. Go ahead and read around and you will see this is MY thinking.

I know we could pass on T.O. His behavior could be one of TWO reasons we do not get him. The other reason could be that Philly will trade him for nothing to make sure T.O. never becomes a Cowboy.


Well first take a look at this post Woodys Girl put up.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39982 (http:///)
Read real close what a few Cowboy players and Parcells said. I guess you can get what you want from it but to me I think they are being very careful what the say. And IMO for one reason. They all know we are gonna make a big move for T.O.


Think about this.

Parcells is near the end of his contract. My guess is he extends it another 2 years and then calls it quits for good. He would love to go out winning 1 or 2 more Super Bowl. Terell Owens is the one player that can give this team such a big impact player that it would make us into Super Bowl contenders right away.

Look. We fix our biggest weakness the OL and that can be done. We get T.O. and now we have one of the best 3 WRs in the game. He will give us a huge WR that is a very dangerous deep threat. A WR that can take any catch to the house at any time.

He will open up our running game. He will open up our other WRs to.

Like what Irvin said or not....we do not have a real #1 WR. We have a bunch of #2 WRs.


Glenn and Keyshawn do not give DCs nights where they can not go to sleep. Terell Owens does.


If Owens goes to the Cowboys I think he will behave good. And for 2 reasons

1. Parcells might be the only coach who can control him and that Owens would respect.

2. I do not think Owens would wanna do something to let Michael Irvin down. Oh yeah I know it sounds silly here but who is one of the few people who is defending Owens. It is Irvin. If Irvin tells him to go to Dallas and I bet he does then I think Owens will do good here and behave.


Also. Dont think Parcells does not see what a hard worker Owens is. I can guarentee you BP saw the super hard work Owens put in just to make it back to the Super Bowl. You can bet things like that could make him a Parcells Guy!

Yeah T.O. wants money but he also wants to win. He also wants to win Super Bowls. Dont fool yourself.

I also think Owens would like to be here for some reasons.

1. He sees this team is on the up and he could be a big part in it winning Super Bowls.

2. He hates the Eagles and their fans. What better way to get back at them then to be a Cowboy and win Super Bowls as a Cowboy. And get to taunt them 2 times a year. Oh believe me....Owens knows being a Cowboy would p*ss off Eagle fans more then going to any other team.


We seriously are a big play WR and improved OL away from being maybe a dynasty team. We get Owens and improve that line....well it can be done.


Now think about this. Here is how we give Owens his big contract.

Make it for 3 years.

1st year is guarenteed. each year after is a option. Now the way it works is this. He makes the smallest amount of money his 1st year. Then gets a huge jump in $$$$ year #2 and a bigger jump in year #3. He will get his money IFFFFFF HE BEHAVES!!! And then give him a special bonus for every Super Bowl the Cowboys win.

If he becomes a problem his 1st year here we can cut him and not use the options.

A contract can be done to get him $$$$ and make him a good player here.


I do not know about the rest of you but if we sign T.O. and I think we will. I back the move cuz I know it will be very good for us.


Think about it. BP will be around 3 more years after this at the most. T.O. is a money player that can win him some Super Bowls on his way out. My guess is he is not gonna pass this one up. Maybe I am wrong.....but with this what I bring up you now have to think I have a good point.

Dude you make very valid points. T.O. has made alot of mistakes and I truely believe this one has hit home. BP can handle with no problem and I bet T.O. would give the RESPECT he demands. Its very possible that he could land here and yes I would back the BOYZ 100%. If we signed him, great and if we didn't, that would be ok too. I don't think he would be the same person with the BOYZ that he was with the Eagles or 49ers. He doesn't wanna be in the negative spot light anymore.

[jumanji]

your question is why you think to will become a cowboy? the answer....you're an idiot...that's why :)

no offense, but its not happening.

[Fletch]

Dude you make very valid points. T.O. has made alot of mistakes and I truely believe this one has hit home. BP can handle with no problem and I bet T.O. would give the RESPECT he demands. Its very possible that he could land here and yes I would back the BOYZ 100%. If we signed him, great and if we didn't, that would be ok too. I don't think he would be the same person with the BOYZ that he was with the Eagles or 49ers. He doesn't wanna be in the negative spot light anymore.

Stranger things have happened. I feel like you do on the subject.

[JDSmith]

Is this a fact?

If so, could you provide a link, because this is the first I have heard about the Philadelphia Eagles' version of Tribal Council.

It was reported after the Hugh Douglas fight. I can't provide a link because I don't care enough to search for one. I heard it, I read it, I remember it - that's enough for me. At first there were reports about management suspending him or making him inactive, then there were reports that the players had actually voted and gone to management to ask for it. There were reports flying around everywhere, so I have no idea where those are.

[dragon_mikal]

I honestly wouldn't. I simply can't root for TO under any circumstances. Luckily you are right and the Cowboys are unlikely to offer him any contract, much less the billions he wants.

You would watch the team and you know it.

Stop blowing hot air.

[Danny White]

Wolverine is bored on a Tuesday night... what, no crowded theaters to yell "fire" in?

[JDSmith]

You would watch the team and you know it.

Stop blowing hot air.

No, I wouldn't. If you would, good for you. I would not root for or watch the team if they signed TO. I would simply stop watching football. You can believe me or not, it matters little to me.

[Alexander]

It was reported after the Hugh Douglas fight. I can't provide a link because I don't care enough to search for one. I heard it, I read it, I remember it - that's enough for me. At first there were reports about management suspending him or making him inactive, then there were reports that the players had actually voted and gone to management to ask for it. There were reports flying around everywhere, so I have no idea where those are.

Can anyone validate this?

[SupermanXx]

I wouldn't be opposed in the least

what's the worst that could happen?

Bill Parcells straightens him out or he gets cut.

I don't see what the big deal is and I think those who don't want to "taint the image of this 5 Super Bowl ' and America's" team bullcrap are taking it way too far

[JDSmith]

Here is a quote from Phil Simms in an article on nfl.com today:

Here is my take: I think everybody can agree that, on the field, Terrell Owens is one of the top two players on the Eagles. I think we can all agree that he's truly one of the top players in the NFL. So for a football team that loves to win -- and they all do -- and for a head coach like Andy Reid who is driven to win, how bad must it have been in that locker room, throughout the organization, for the Philadelphia Eagles to go to such a drastic measure as to suspend him for the rest of the year?

How bad is it, really? It must be much, much worse than any of us can imagine.

Everybody in the NFL is in the business of trying to win, and you'll put up with a lot to win football games and to have success. Because all the other things you strive for -- money, adulation ... it all comes from having success. So it must be an incredible atmosphere for the coaches, front office and players to all have had enough.

I think that says it all.

[Alexander]

No, I wouldn't. If you would, good for you. I would not root for or watch the team if they signed TO. I would simply stop watching football. You can believe me or not, it matters little to me.

That's a pretty juvenile perspective. No offense.

But if the team signs a player I don't like, I am going to flush years of support down the toilet? No sir.

I hated Deion Sanders with a passion. But after coming to grips with the fact that we are cheering for laundry, it did not hurt that much after that.

[tigertrac]

I have all the respect for TO the football player. I have no respect for him as a teammate or a person. He is a me-first guy; totally consumed with self. He is a cancer; locker-room poison. He was sent packing from San Fran and Philly for a reason folks. For ANYONE to want TO to be a Dallas Cowboy after he showed up the Cowboys by standing on the star at midfield, is absolute lunacy. I DONT WANT T.O. ON ANY FOOTBALL TEAM I ROOT FOR!

[THUMPER]

This will be a long post so I hope you read it. I have no proof Owens will be a Cowboy. This is all just my opinion and thoughts. Go ahead and read around and you will see this is MY thinking.

I know we could pass on T.O. His behavior could be one of TWO reasons we do not get him. The other reason could be that Philly will trade him for nothing to make sure T.O. never becomes a Cowboy.


Well first take a look at this post Woodys Girl put up.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39982 (http://)
Read real close what a few Cowboy players and Parcells said. I guess you can get what you want from it but to me I think they are being very careful what the say. And IMO for one reason. They all know we are gonna make a big move for T.O.


Think about this.

Parcells is near the end of his contract. My guess is he extends it another 2 years and then calls it quits for good. He would love to go out winning 1 or 2 more Super Bowl. Terell Owens is the one player that can give this team such a big impact player that it would make us into Super Bowl contenders right away.

Look. We fix our biggest weakness the OL and that can be done. We get T.O. and now we have one of the best 3 WRs in the game. He will give us a huge WR that is a very dangerous deep threat. A WR that can take any catch to the house at any time.

He will open up our running game. He will open up our other WRs to.

Like what Irvin said or not....we do not have a real #1 WR. We have a bunch of #2 WRs.


Glenn and Keyshawn do not give DCs nights where they can not go to sleep. Terell Owens does.


If Owens goes to the Cowboys I think he will behave good. And for 2 reasons

1. Parcells might be the only coach who can control him and that Owens would respect.

2. I do not think Owens would wanna do something to let Michael Irvin down. Oh yeah I know it sounds silly here but who is one of the few people who is defending Owens. It is Irvin. If Irvin tells him to go to Dallas and I bet he does then I think Owens will do good here and behave.


Also. Dont think Parcells does not see what a hard worker Owens is. I can guarentee you BP saw the super hard work Owens put in just to make it back to the Super Bowl. You can bet things like that could make him a Parcells Guy!

Yeah T.O. wants money but he also wants to win. He also wants to win Super Bowls. Dont fool yourself.

I also think Owens would like to be here for some reasons.

1. He sees this team is on the up and he could be a big part in it winning Super Bowls.

2. He hates the Eagles and their fans. What better way to get back at them then to be a Cowboy and win Super Bowls as a Cowboy. And get to taunt them 2 times a year. Oh believe me....Owens knows being a Cowboy would p*ss off Eagle fans more then going to any other team.


We seriously are a big play WR and improved OL away from being maybe a dynasty team. We get Owens and improve that line....well it can be done.


Now think about this. Here is how we give Owens his big contract.

Make it for 3 years.

1st year is guarenteed. each year after is a option. Now the way it works is this. He makes the smallest amount of money his 1st year. Then gets a huge jump in $$$$ year #2 and a bigger jump in year #3. He will get his money IFFFFFF HE BEHAVES!!! And then give him a special bonus for every Super Bowl the Cowboys win.

If he becomes a problem his 1st year here we can cut him and not use the options.

A contract can be done to get him $$$$ and make him a good player here.


I do not know about the rest of you but if we sign T.O. and I think we will. I back the move cuz I know it will be very good for us.


Think about it. BP will be around 3 more years after this at the most. T.O. is a money player that can win him some Super Bowls on his way out. My guess is he is not gonna pass this one up. Maybe I am wrong.....but with this what I bring up you now have to think I have a good point.


How could someone follow the Cowboys for the last couple of years under Parcells and have such a poor read on the team and the HC? Every one of your points is flawed dude as are all of your projections.

Get over it, TO ain't coming to Dallas, ever.

[Alexander]

I have all the respect for TO the football player. I have no respect for him as a teammate or a person. He is a me-first guy; totally consumed with self. He is a cancer; locker-room poison. He was sent packing from San Fran and Philly for a reason folks. For ANYONE to want TO to be a Dallas Cowboy after he showed up the Cowboys by standing on the star at midfield, is absolute lunacy. I DONT WANT T.O. ON ANY FOOTBALL TEAM I ROOT FOR!

There is a distinct difference between saying you would not support the transaction versus saying that if it occurs you stop watching the team or football in general.

I don't know of many fans who would cheer if we signed him. I wouldn't. But I certainly would not stop supporting the team because we decided to sign him.

[Mansta54]

No, I wouldn't. If you would, good for you. I would not root for or watch the team if they signed TO. I would simply stop watching football. You can believe me or not, it matters little to me.


Sorry dude, but that is a really STUPID statement...Ridiculous!!!!!

[zrinkill]

How could someone follow the Cowboys for the last couple of years under Parcells and have such a poor read on the team and the HC? Every one of your points is flawed dude as are all of your projections.

Get over it, TO ain't coming to Dallas, ever.

Thats wolverines M.O. ............

[SupermanXx]

I swear some of you... MAN... how the hell do you seriously quote that huge freakin post?

DON'T DO IT!

[JDSmith]

That's a pretty juvenile perspective. No offense.

But if the team signs a player I don't like, I am going to flush years of support down the toilet? No sir.

I hated Deion Sanders with a passion. But after coming to grips with the fact that we are cheering for laundry, it did not hurt that much after that.

You can consider it a juvenile perspective, but that probably means you just don't understand it. There are certain people that I simply will not root for, even if they are signed by my favorite team. Someone like Deion doesn't fall into that group because he's always been a team player and his teammates love him - and have throughout his career in both baseball and football. Owens' teammates hate him. He is everything that's wrong in today's sporting world. I can not root for him. There is nothing juvenile about it. Maybe you are searching for another word.

[JDSmith]

Sorry dude, but that is a really STUPID statement...Ridiculous!!!!!

No, it's not remotely stupid. It's my position. If you don't agree with it that's fine, but calling it stupid just makes you seem like a .

[JDSmith]

There is a distinct difference between saying you would not support the transaction versus saying that if it occurs you stop watching the team or football in general.

I don't know of many fans who would cheer if we signed him. I wouldn't. But I certainly would not stop supporting the team because we decided to sign him.

I would not root for him. I refuse to support him in any way shape or form. Just because he puts on a Cowboys uniform does not mean I'll suddenly support him. Football is not my life, I will not stop breathing if I stop following the Cowboys. Terrell Owens is everything that's wrong with sports. I would not root for him under any circumstances. I would just do something else with my time. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to grasp the concept that it's possible to do something else on Sundays.

[WoodysGirl]

This will be a long post so I hope you read it. I have no proof Owens will be a Cowboy. This is all just my opinion and thoughts. Go ahead and read around and you will see this is MY thinking.

I know we could pass on T.O. His behavior could be one of TWO reasons we do not get him. The other reason could be that Philly will trade him for nothing to make sure T.O. never becomes a Cowboy.


Well first take a look at this post Woodys Girl put up.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39982 (http:///)
Read real close what a few Cowboy players and Parcells said. I guess you can get what you want from it but to me I think they are being very careful what the say. And IMO for one reason. They all know we are gonna make a big move for T.O.


Think about this.

Parcells is near the end of his contract. My guess is he extends it another 2 years and then calls it quits for good. He would love to go out winning 1 or 2 more Super Bowl. Terell Owens is the one player that can give this team such a big impact player that it would make us into Super Bowl contenders right away.

Look. We fix our biggest weakness the OL and that can be done. We get T.O. and now we have one of the best 3 WRs in the game. He will give us a huge WR that is a very dangerous deep threat. A WR that can take any catch to the house at any time.

He will open up our running game. He will open up our other WRs to.

Like what Irvin said or not....we do not have a real #1 WR. We have a bunch of #2 WRs.


Glenn and Keyshawn do not give DCs nights where they can not go to sleep. Terell Owens does.


If Owens goes to the Cowboys I think he will behave good. And for 2 reasons

1. Parcells might be the only coach who can control him and that Owens would respect.

2. I do not think Owens would wanna do something to let Michael Irvin down. Oh yeah I know it sounds silly here but who is one of the few people who is defending Owens. It is Irvin. If Irvin tells him to go to Dallas and I bet he does then I think Owens will do good here and behave.


Also. Dont think Parcells does not see what a hard worker Owens is. I can guarentee you BP saw the super hard work Owens put in just to make it back to the Super Bowl. You can bet things like that could make him a Parcells Guy!

Yeah T.O. wants money but he also wants to win. He also wants to win Super Bowls. Dont fool yourself.

I also think Owens would like to be here for some reasons.

1. He sees this team is on the up and he could be a big part in it winning Super Bowls.

2. He hates the Eagles and their fans. What better way to get back at them then to be a Cowboy and win Super Bowls as a Cowboy. And get to taunt them 2 times a year. Oh believe me....Owens knows being a Cowboy would p*ss off Eagle fans more then going to any other team.


We seriously are a big play WR and improved OL away from being maybe a dynasty team. We get Owens and improve that line....well it can be done.


Now think about this. Here is how we give Owens his big contract.

Make it for 3 years.

1st year is guarenteed. each year after is a option. Now the way it works is this. He makes the smallest amount of money his 1st year. Then gets a huge jump in $$$$ year #2 and a bigger jump in year #3. He will get his money IFFFFFF HE BEHAVES!!! And then give him a special bonus for every Super Bowl the Cowboys win.

If he becomes a problem his 1st year here we can cut him and not use the options.

A contract can be done to get him $$$$ and make him a good player here.


I do not know about the rest of you but if we sign T.O. and I think we will. I back the move cuz I know it will be very good for us.


Think about it. BP will be around 3 more years after this at the most. T.O. is a money player that can win him some Super Bowls on his way out. My guess is he is not gonna pass this one up. Maybe I am wrong.....but with this what I bring up you now have to think I have a good point.I only did this to piss off SupermanXx.... :cool:

:lmao2:


BTW, that thread you attributed to me, Wolvie doesn't work. I honestly feel like I should take a shower after being mentioned in a post about T.O. coming to Dallas..

[NYCowboy22]

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:hammer:

[StevenOtero]

Well, ya never know. If he is cool and starts to be a team player. I'll take him... but if not. I'll hate him even more.......................

[50cent]

Can anyone validate this?
I can actually say that it was reported. I believe Sal Pal was the one I heard it from after the Washington game. A reporter asked Reid if it were true and Andy Reid said that no such vote happened it was all his decision to boot TO. I for one, think the vote happened and Reid was in spin control, usually reporters don't bring stuff like this up without some sort of validity.

[JDSmith]

I can actually say that it was reported. I believe Sal Pal was the one I heard it from after the Washington game. A reporter asked Reid if it were true and Andy Reid said that no such vote happened it was all his decision to boot TO. I for one, think the vote happened and Reid was in spin control, usually reporters don't bring stuff like this up without some sort of validity.

Simms also alluded to it somewhat in his piece today. He didn't say that management or coaches wanted Owens gone, he said teammates as well.

[lane]

terrell owens sealed his fate when he hired that piece of s&*t rosenhaus as his agent.

there are a hell of alot better receivers in the nfl than terrell owens anyway.

marvin harrison
steve smith
terry glenn
chad johnson
jimmy smith
reggie wayne
andre johnson


to name a few.

[lspain1]

Is this a fact?

If so, could you provide a link, because this is the first I have heard about the Philadelphia Eagles' version of Tribal Council.


Alex, I don't have a link but the guys on Total Access tonight said it was very clear the Eagle players did not want TO back.

[Vinnie2u]

Stranger things have and will happen. I support the uniform not the name on the back of it. Dallas does have a history of bringing in troubled players and trying to rehabiltate them. Thats why Calvin Hill is on the payroll. IE.. Quincy,
Underwood, Leaf, Spelman, Glenn, Keyshawn.

[JDSmith]

Stranger things have and will happen. I support the uniform not the name on the back of it. Dallas does have a history of bringing in troubled players and trying to rehabiltate them. Thats why Calvin Hill is on the payroll. IE.. Quincy,
Underwood, Leaf, Spelman, Glenn, Keyshawn.

I support more than the uniform. I have to support the players on the team as well.

[lspain1]

If you believe in team chemistry, you would say taking TO is a big risk. But, last year we were all thinking that TO was the ingredient McNabb had been missing. A happy TO can make a huge difference to a team. So can an unhappy TO. Anything is possible, but I will bet money right now that the Cowboys pass on TO.

[Alexander]

I can actually say that it was reported. I believe Sal Pal was the one I heard it from after the Washington game. A reporter asked Reid if it were true and Andy Reid said that no such vote happened it was all his decision to boot TO. I for one, think the vote happened and Reid was in spin control, usually reporters don't bring stuff like this up without some sort of validity.

So Reid was lying?

[Alexander]

Alex, I don't have a link but the guys on Total Access tonight said it was very clear the Eagle players did not want TO back.

I have no doubt that most of them don't and are probably glad to see him go. That is not the issue. This idea of a "Survivor Tribal Council" where they took a vote is what I question.

[JDSmith]

I have no doubt that most of them don't and are probably glad to see him go. That is not the issue. This idea of a "Survivor Tribal Council" where they took a vote is what I question.

It was reported, as I said. If you choose not to believe it, fine. Then it never happened.

[Nors]

I Officially Want Nothing To Do With To Wearing A Dallas Uniform.

[Richmond Cowboy]

Is this a fact?

If so, could you provide a link, because this is the first I have heard about the Philadelphia Eagles' version of Tribal Council.

Sorry, couldn't resist:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/monkmonk98/TOtribalcouncil.jpg

[DLCassidy]

This guy has made it abundantly clear he's all about the money. But even a dumb@ss like TO has to grasp that he's not going to get the contract he's been fishing for with the Eagles. So if he's this unhappy with what he's getting now, how likely is it that he will be thrilled for the inevitably much smaller deal he'll be offered after the season? I'd say slim to none and slim just left town. And no matter how he starts off with his new team it's just a matter of time before he stabs his new QB in the back like he did Garcia and McNabb. Pass.

[Alexander]

It was reported, as I said. If you choose not to believe it, fine. Then it never happened.

Sorry you have a problem with me questioning you. No need to get defensive.

You suggested there was a player's "vote". And nobody can verify that. Just some off the cuff comments that "players wanted him gone". Well of course many of the players wanted him gone. That does nothing to validate that there was a "vote", which Reid's comments also deny.

[DezBRomo9]

Our image the last few years was to get away from the Drug using America's Team image of the mid-90's. Yet where has that gotten us? A few playoff appearances and exits. There are other players in the league who have had legal problems (Jamal Lewis, Sean Taylor and Ray Lewis) who havent been critcized and even though it was legal it wasnt blown out of proportion. TO is a bad teammate, plain and simple. But would you cheer for him if he was straightened out like his first few years in the league.
IMO we wont sign him, but if for some reason he is traded/signed by us it will be because BP wants to win and a 1 year deal worth plenty of money in bonuses wouldnt be out of the question. The Eagles wont trade him to us just because BP has the ability to control him. And if he couldnt we would cut him. So, we wont trade for him because we would be losing someone or a DP. We would have to sign him and I think Dallas is somewhere TO wants to go because we are improving. He would make our offseason. IMO if you stop because you hate TO, doesnt that make you a bandwagoner? Anyways, this is an idea that BP wanted us to consider and there is a small chance we will sign him, but we wont trade for him.

[Alexander]

Sorry, couldn't resist:

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d82/monkmonk98/TOtribalcouncil.jpg

:lmao2:

Outstanding.

That is what I envisioned too when it was mentioned this "vote" took place. One by one, the Eagles players marching to drop their piece of parchment with T.O. scrawled on it and then Andy Reid saying "T.O., the tribe has spoken."

[JDSmith]

Sorry you have a problem with me questioning you. No need to get defensive.

You suggested there was a player's "vote". And nobody can verify that. Just some off the cuff comments that "players wanted him gone". Well of course many of the players wanted him gone. That does nothing to validate that there was a "vote", which Reid's comments also deny.

Actually one other person did verify that Sal Pal reported it. The fact that Reid denied it means nothing, head coaches lie to the media all the time. You think Reid always tells the media the truth? Also, if it hadn't been reported why were they asking Reid about it?

[Alexander]

Actually one other person did verify that Sal Pal reported it. The fact that Reid denied it means nothing, head coaches lie to the media all the time. You think Reid always tells the media the truth? Also, if it hadn't been reported why were they asking Reid about it?

And you think the media knows the truth? That might be a first.

The media can also twist and spin nearly anything to make it seem more dramatic.

What is more juicy?

Joe Banner, Andy Reid and Jeffrey Lurie sitting in a room and deciding to suspend Owens?

Or a player's "vote" conducted by torchlight and then the results are then taken to management which then uses that to make their decision?

Owens is the one who needs to lie. I really don't see how lying about this would serve the organization's purpose. Because if it were true, I don't think anyone would fault them for listening to their players.

[THUMPER]

I also heard a report about a team vote (on ESPN) but then Reid denied that it happened or at least that that was not what influenced the decision, which he made alone.

[davidyee]

This will be a long post so I hope you read it. I have no proof Owens will be a Cowboy. This is all just my opinion and thoughts. Go ahead and read around and you will see this is MY thinking.

I know we could pass on T.O. His behavior could be one of TWO reasons we do not get him. The other reason could be that Philly will trade him for nothing to make sure T.O. never becomes a Cowboy.

First, we know nothing about what the off season brings, but unless Philly outright releases T.O. there will be no play for Owens unless someone will take over the contract.


Well first take a look at this post Woodys Girl put up.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39982 (http://)
Read real close what a few Cowboy players and Parcells said. I guess you can get what you want from it but to me I think they are being very careful what the say. And IMO for one reason. They all know we are gonna make a big move for T.O.


Think about this.

Unfortunately the URL is no longer valid. Not your fault. Please give us the Cole's Notes version of the thread.


Parcells is near the end of his contract. My guess is he extends it another 2 years and then calls it quits for good. He would love to go out winning 1 or 2 more Super Bowl. Terell Owens is the one player that can give this team such a big impact player that it would make us into Super Bowl contenders right away.

There are others who may be available that could possibly push this team over the top in both free agency and the draft. I would put OL has the higher priority need before WR and believe that more protection and better run blocking could be the key to more bowls.


Look. We fix our biggest weakness the OL and that can be done. We get T.O. and now we have one of the best 3 WRs in the game. He will give us a huge WR that is a very dangerous deep threat. A WR that can take any catch to the house at any time.

You said it best when you stated what was our biggest need. 3 wrs in Key, T.O and Glenn would leave Witten and Crayton fighting for touches also. It would mean a serious imbalance in our offence. One I don't think anuone including Parcells could fix.


He will open up our running game. He will open up our other WRs to.

Like what Irvin said or not....we do not have a real #1 WR. We have a bunch of #2 WRs.


Glenn and Keyshawn do not give DCs nights where they can not go to sleep. Terell Owens does.

I will grant you the comment that T.O.'s talent does have to be considered, but Terry Glenn can be a problem for some also. What makes a WR good is not only his individual talent, but the fact that an opposing team has to consider the other players on his side. The balance. It's what made the offence of the early 90's so good. If it wasn't Irvin or Smith, then it was Novacek or Johnson.


If Owens goes to the Cowboys I think he will behave good. And for 2 reasons

1. Parcells might be the only coach who can control him and that Owens would respect.

There has been nothing in T.O.'s past that has shown me that he's about nothing less than himself. Parcells couldn't controll Ross, Carter or Davis for that matter. What makes anyone think T.O. is going to be any different for Bill than Andy Reid or Steve Mariucci? T.O.'s humility isn't at that stage yet.


2. I do not think Owens would wanna do something to let Michael Irvin down. Oh yeah I know it sounds silly here but who is one of the few people who is defending Owens. It is Irvin. If Irvin tells him to go to Dallas and I bet he does then I think Owens will do good here and behave.

There has been nothing over the past three years that shows me that Irvin has any influence over how BP or Jones thinks to feed the theory that T.O. would be welcomed here if he came.


Also. Dont think Parcells does not see what a hard worker Owens is. I can guarentee you BP saw the super hard work Owens put in just to make it back to the Super Bowl. You can bet things like that could make him a Parcells Guy!

Last I heard a Parcells guy was a hard working veteran who had proved his stripes while working for him in some other capacity or team. More often than not this was a vet brought in to teach the ropes to younger players. Is this your present opinion of T.O.??? He's far from a Parcells guy in my opinion.


Yeah T.O. wants money but he also wants to win. He also wants to win Super Bowls. Dont fool yourself.

This guy is all about the money. Before the season started how could he know that the Eagles were not going to go back to the big dance? All media pundits were giving the Eagles as good a chance as anybody. T.O.'s issues began in the off season becasue he was more about himself and less about the team. he couldn't live with the fact there were other shining stars on the team other than him. You don't have to look any further than McNabb to see where the envy was targeted.


I also think Owens would like to be here for some reasons.

1. He sees this team is on the up and he could be a big part in it winning Super Bowls.

Can say the same for Indy, Giants, Cincy, SD, Seattle, Atlanta or a number of teams in this post salary cap era.


2. He hates the Eagles and their fans. What better way to get back at them then to be a Cowboy and win Super Bowls as a Cowboy. And get to taunt them 2 times a year. Oh believe me....Owens knows being a Cowboy would p*ss off Eagle fans more then going to any other team.

Same applies for going to the Skins or the Giants.


We seriously are a big play WR and improved OL away from being maybe a dynasty team. We get Owens and improve that line....well it can be done.

If we don't improve the line will T.O. come? Big "ifs" in the way of your opinion. Especially in light of Adams' injury, Rogers' flameout, Allen's bloated contract and Gurode's relegation to second string. No one can say this line is ready to go, especially in light of the moves Parcells has made in the last few weeks to shore it up.


Now think about this. Here is how we give Owens his big contract.

Make it for 3 years.

1st year is guarenteed. each year after is a option. Now the way it works is this. He makes the smallest amount of money his 1st year. Then gets a huge jump in $$$$ year #2 and a bigger jump in year #3. He will get his money IFFFFFF HE BEHAVES!!! And then give him a special bonus for every Super Bowl the Cowboys win.

Considering that Roy almost ripped his ankle out of its socket why would he go through all the aggravation this past few months to lose his salary to take less to enter the playing field and risk his career. I know Rosenhaus is a jerk, but I don't think he is an idiot. The past five months for T.O. is all about money and if you have forgotten "his family needs to eat"!!!!


If he becomes a problem his 1st year here we can cut him and not use the options.

A contract can be done to get him $$$$ and make him a good player here.

This is the single biggest reason why he won't come here. No guaranteed money. The backbone of all contracts negotiated in the NFL because regular salaries are not guaranteed. Terrell will not make contract history in the NFL jsut because he loves the Cowboys. Heck, none of the Cowboys stars, Roy, Newman, or even Witten will sign a contract that undervalues themselves in their prime earning years.


I do not know about the rest of you but if we sign T.O. and I think we will. I back the move cuz I know it will be very good for us.

Think about it. BP will be around 3 more years after this at the most. T.O. is a money player that can win him some Super Bowls on his way out. My guess is he is not gonna pass this one up. Maybe I am wrong.....but with this what I bring up you now have to think I have a good point.

BP is going to target needs with availability holding an eye on value, he's always done that. Why he passed on Berry then signed Henry. I don't think he thinks this a position to break the bank on and I would think he is looking to create a bigger legacy for himslef than to saddle the team with a bloated contract for T.O. Every one can see the mistake that the Eagles have made, why would JJ and BP copy that one?

T.O. isn't coming here on the cheap, and the Eagles are going to try to retain whatever value they can from him. Trade would be the first option, the outright release. When released, T.O. is selling himself to the highest bidder. ONly a complete and humiliating fall from grace would lead to him crawling to such a contract as you propose. If he gets to those lowly depths don't think some other "up and coming" team won't jump at him. Then starts another bodding war for the "humble" version of T.O.

Whew! I'm exhausted! I need a nap!

[The30YardSlant]

TO is a joke, we dont want him, we dont need him.

Take no stock in Wolverine's thoughts. He is a 15 year old who is impressed with flashy players who love the spotlight. This is the reason he thinks Mike Vick is the greatest thing in the NFL. He doesnt grasp the team concept, just the entertainment concept.

[Da Hammer]

This is one issue where i don't know whether i would like T.O on this team. Yes we all know he has been a terrible teammate everywhere he has been, but still he is probably the best WR in football. I do believe Parcells could somewhat control him because he would be probably the first coach that ever demanded respect out of him and Parcells would instantly cut him if T.O couldn't comply with that. And you know you made a great point when you said that he wouldn't want to let Irvin down if he came to Dallas since Irvin is the only person in the media that shows continuous support of Owens and they appear to be great fans. But T.O hasn't showed anything ever that would indicate he would change in a certain situation. So i wouldn't mind if the Cowboys signed Owens but they better be certain that they can at least somewhat get him in control.

[JDSmith]

And you think the media knows the truth? That might be a first.

The media can also twist and spin nearly anything to make it seem more dramatic.

What is more juicy?

Joe Banner, Andy Reid and Jeffrey Lurie sitting in a room and deciding to suspend Owens?

Or a player's "vote" conducted by torchlight and then the results are then taken to management which then uses that to make their decision?

Owens is the one who needs to lie. I really don't see how lying about this would serve the organization's purpose. Because if it were true, I don't think anyone would fault them for listening to their players.

Like I said, it was reported and that's been confirmed. You can choose to believe it or not. You clearly don't want to believe it. You want to pretend that it's just management picking on poor TO - because otherwise it's pretty obvious that TO is a headcase who we wouldn't sign if he was the last player on earth. I never said there was any ballot or anything about torchlight. For all I know when TO walked out of the room after fighting with Douglas someone asked if anyone else was sick of this and people assented - that would be a vote, although it wouldn't feed your survivor dream scenario quite as well.

Vote or no vote, the players on his own team don't want him back. It's been made clear by various sources including many former players - many of whom might just talk to one or two of the Eagles current players. You can spin that any way you want, but the guys on his current team clearly feel that his talent isn't enough to overcome the discord he brings to the team as a whole.

[Alexander]

Like I said, it was reported and that's been confirmed. You can choose to believe it or not. You clearly don't want to believe it.

It was reported that members of the team did not want him back. I am not disputing that. Just this overly dramatic and yet to be verified vote which you claim happened. It was "verified" by Sal Paolantonio, yet denied by the head coach himself. But I am supposed to believe Reid has an agenda and some writer from ESPN who is paid for news/rumor doesn't?

You want to pretend that it's just management picking on poor TO - because otherwise it's pretty obvious that TO is a headcase who we wouldn't sign if he was the last player on earth.

I never have absolved Owens of any responsibility. He made his own bed. But again, the automatic assumption is by laymen (you, me and everyone else) that we would NEVER EVER have anything to do with him. Fact is, we don't know. Chances are we wouldn't. But I have a feeling the only doors being shut are by fans moreso than the organization.

You can spin that any way you want

I am not spinning anything. I am just trying to get to the facts which are few and far between in this soap opera.

[JDSmith]

It was reported that members of the team did not want him back. I am not disputing that. Just this overly dramatic and yet to be verified vote which you claim happened. It was "verified" by Sal Paolantonio, yet denied by the head coach himself. But I am supposed to believe Reid has an agenda and some writer from ESPN who is paid for news/rumor doesn't?


No, the vote was reported. There have been at least 3 people on this thread verifying that the vote was reported. Andy Reid was also asked about the vote, which means there was clearly a report of a vote - see, that's why they asked him. So I claim nothing that isn't true, the vote was reported to have taken place. If you doubt the veracity of the report that's fine, you are entitled to an opinion. But don't pretend that I claim anything and act as if it hasn't been verified.

[cobra]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN WE PLEASE BAN AND DO HURTFUL THINGS TO THE.... PEOPLE... WHO MAKE ASININE "T.O. to Dallas!" THREADS??????

PLEASE PLEASE!

THESE ARE USUALLY THE SAME.... PEOPLE... WHO KEEP SAYING THE BOYS NEED TO BRING BACK QUINCY.

PLEASE PLEASE! BAN THESE... PEOPLE.

(My mother said don't call people names, so I won't. But know that the contempt I have these people is enormous and they are disgrace to the idea of fans of the TEAM).

[JDSmith]

I am not spinning anything. I am just trying to get to the facts which are few and far between in this soap opera.

Fact: Terrell Owens is a world class athlete and one of the best WRs in football.

Fact: His teammates don't want him back and feel that whatever he brings to the table as a receiver isn't worth it.

Those should be all the facts anyone needs. When you are one of the best at your position and your own teammates don't want you around, something is VERY wrong.

[LaTunaNostra]

I heard it too.

The vote took place immediately after a victorious TO taunted "Anyone else want some? Huh! I thought not!", following his thrashing of the oaf-like Hugh Douglas.

None of the craven Eagles were willing to take the valiant warrior up on his challenge, but once the vindicated TO strode confidently from the locker room, the little people crept out and formed a hesitant circle.

"He's crazy", they whispered. "Let's vote him off the island before he comes back and pummels some more of us'. Looking for support to their winded and dry-heaving leader McChunky, who had slunk behind a locker during Braveheart's challenge, the gutless wonders one by one turned their puny thumbs down. McChunkey, soaked in the sweat of his TO fear, voted twice.

Thus was Valiant TO, hero of the 2004 season, exiled from his own tribe, less than a year after his glory. The decision was unanimous, and Momma McChunky made a hearty pot of soup for all.

[DBoys]

Listen guys there are a couple sayings that fit this topic.

Guy takes advantage of you the first time shame on him, a guy takes advantage of you the second time shame on me. This is the second time this has happened 2 different teams, 2 different QB's same results.

As for this thread and the people who wish for him to sign with Dallas...

Ben Franklin said, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

Simply put you guys are insane.

[Alexander]

I heard it too.

The vote took place immediately after a victorious TO taunted "Anyone else want some? Huh! I thought not!", following his thrashing of the oaf-like Hugh Douglas.

None of the craven Eagles were willing to take the valiant warrior up on his challenge, but once the vindicated TO strode confidently from the locker room, the little people crept out and formed a hesitant circle.

"He's crazy", they whispered. "Let's vote him off the island before he comes back and pummels some more of us'. Looking for support to their winded and dry-heaving leader McChunky, who had slunk behind a locker during Braveheart's challenge, the gutless wonders one by one turned their puny thumbs down. McChunkey, soaked in the sweat of his TO fear, voted twice.

Thus was Valiant TO, hero of the 2004 season, exiled from his own tribe, less than a year after his glory. The decision was unanimous, and Momma McChunky made a hearty pot of soup for all.

It sounds to me you copied that from Owens' own secret journal.

[zrinkill]

I heard it too.

The vote took place immediately after a victorious TO taunted "Anyone else want some? Huh! I thought not!", following his thrashing of the oaf-like Hugh Douglas.

None of the craven Eagles were willing to take the valiant warrior up on his challenge, but once the vindicated TO strode confidently from the locker room, the little people crept out and formed a hesitant circle.

"He's crazy", they whispered. "Let's vote him off the island before he comes back and pummels some more of us'. Looking for support to their winded and dry-heaving leader McChunky, who had slunk behind a locker during Braveheart's challenge, the gutless wonders one by one turned their puny thumbs down. McChunkey, soaked in the sweat of his TO fear, voted twice.

Thus was Valiant TO, hero of the 2004 season, exiled from his own tribe, less than a year after his glory. The decision was unanimous, and Momma McChunky made a hearty pot of soup for all.

That made me laugh ...... good stuff

[JDSmith]

It sounds to me you copied that from Owens' own secret journal.

I'm pretty sure if it was from TO's secret journal he would have slayed a dragon in there somewhere. He seems to have a pretty active imagination.

[Dallas31]

I also heard a report about a team vote (on ESPN) but then Reid denied that it happened or at least that that was not what influenced the decision, which he made alone.



I heard that same report.

It was reported but Reid denied it when asked.

[LaTunaNostra]

It sounds to me you copied that from Owens' own secret journal.
Actually, it came from Rosenhaus's.

[zrinkill]

I'm pretty sure if it was from TO's secret journal he would have slayed a dragon in there somewhere. He seems to have a pretty active imagination.

http://www.homestarrunner.com/filmstyle.html

[Wolverine]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN WE PLEASE BAN AND DO HURTFUL THINGS TO THE.... PEOPLE... WHO MAKE ASININE "T.O. to Dallas!" THREADS??????

PLEASE PLEASE!

THESE ARE USUALLY THE SAME.... PEOPLE... WHO KEEP SAYING THE BOYS NEED TO BRING BACK QUINCY.

PLEASE PLEASE! BAN THESE... PEOPLE.

(My mother said don't call people names, so I won't. But know that the contempt I have these people is enormous and they are disgrace to the idea of fans of the TEAM).



How about we ban people who think they no more about running this forum then the mods do. Now slither back in the hole you came out of.

[Alexander]

Actually, it came from Rosenhaus's.

He is another character in this soap opera I don't quite understand.

To me, I think he did more damage to himself today than he did to help Owens any.

His soapbox grandstanding and bellowing at the top of his lungs while Owens panted behind him was comical to say the least.

He reminded me quite a bit of Don King speaking for a pea-brained Palooka Mike Tyson standing behind him.

[Deacon Moss]

I would not root for him. I refuse to support him in any way shape or form. Just because he puts on a Cowboys uniform does not mean I'll suddenly support him. Football is not my life, I will not stop breathing if I stop following the Cowboys. Terrell Owens is everything that's wrong with sports. I would not root for him under any circumstances. I would just do something else with my time. I don't know why it's so hard for some people to grasp the concept that it's possible to do something else on Sundays.

dude dont fool yourself!!!
you'd still watch, you'd be to curious to see how good we look!!!

[Weber]

For 3 million a year...I'll take him...Just please fire that frigin agent first! Anything more than that...fo geta bout it!

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Yeah T.O. wants money but he also wants to win. He also wants to win Super Bowls. Dont fool yourself.

He could care less about that

[Wolverine]

What woulda been so funny is if while Rosenhouse was goin off if T.O. stood up and said to him - ya know just shut up...your fired!!!

[LaTunaNostra]

He is another character in this soap opera I don't quite understand.

To me, I think he did more damage to himself today than he did to help Owens any.

His soapbox grandstanding and bellowing at the top of his lungs while Owens panted behind him was comical to say the least.

He reminded me quite a bit of Don King speaking for a pea-brained Palooka Mike Tyson standing behind him.
Haha, I just caught it now on Total Access. The word 'surreal' was misused as a description, but it quaiifed at least as theatre of the absurd.

Drew had that hammy Rod Steiger pick-your-favorite-film dictator thing goin on. Over the top - he needed just the toga.

Rosenhaus must be really upset about the potential loss of revenue/contracts down the road - his strategy completely backfired - and if there is any tribal vote taking place right now, my guess it's by the Drew Crew beginning to at least question its representation.

[big dog cowboy]

Wolverine - We normally agree. But this time, my brother, you are way off base. Sorry, calling it like I see it.

[Alexander]

What woulda been so funny is if while Rosenhouse was goin off if T.O. stood up and said to him - ya know just shut up...your fired!!!

If he had a brain in his head, he would.

He has a bad reputation and has an affirmed sleaze as his agent.

That is a very bad combination. The only representation he could find that is any more of a turnoff to NFL management types are the Postons.

[Shadowfax]

I remember when we gave a 2nd rounder to the 49ers for Charles Haley. He was supposed to be a locker room cancer. All I remember is that he caused no trouble in Big D and was the final piece to the puzzle in our SB run of the 90s.

Take TO with an incentive laden contract and let Bill handle his personality. Bill would probably have it in his contract that he couldn't talk to the media. :nono2:

[Wolverine]

Wolverine - We normally agree. But this time, my brother, you are way off base. Sorry, calling it like I see it.


No prob BDC. Your coolio with me.

[JackMagist]

As GM I would not offer him any more than we gave Pearless Price and I would hope that he didn't take it. I would not tie up any big money in him because I would expect to have to cut his sorry butt halfway through the season. His status would never be more secure than year to year so that he would never have the upper hand or even think that he did.

As a Cowboys fan if he came here I would still boo his every appearance on the field and would not cheer for his TD catches. It would be a sorry way to follow the Cowboys and I very well might just have to move on and watch Hockey or Basketball or something until he was gone.

[Alexander]

I remember when we gave a 2nd rounder to the 49ers for Charles Haley. He was supposed to be a locker room cancer. All I remember is that he caused no trouble in Big D and was the final piece to the puzzle in our SB run of the 90s.

And as far as I know, Owens has not defecated on the dashboard of an assistant coach's car yet.

[dal0789]

Bring him in see how it goes. But dont realy on him.

[Alexander]

As GM I would not offer him any more than we gave Pearless Price and I would hope that he didn't take it. I would not tie up any big money in him because I would expect to have to cut his sorry butt halfway through the season. His status would never be more secure than year to year so that he would never have the upper hand or even think that he did.

Any GM that signs him will be dealing with the dreaded "loyalty" clause which first came to be when Carl Pickens was being a problem in Cincinnati. I don't know the rules in terms of that as far as the NFLPA is concerned, but I am sure that the team that signs him (and someone will) shall at least attempt to wade into that pool.

As a Cowboys fan if he came here I would still boo his every appearance on the field and would not cheer for his TD catches. It would be a sorry way to follow the Cowboys and I very well might just have to move on and watch Hockey or Basketball or something until he was gone.

That is nice in terms of romance concerning your favorite football team, but I wonder exactly how much many fellows such as yourself would be willing to follow through on it.

If we signed Owens, I would not like it. But I would trust that Coach Parcells knew what he was doing.

You call call me cheap, but I look at Owens like I would a high priced call girl with a impressive body and an attitude. The moral side says no way, but the goods are hard to resist as you dole out the cash. I might hate myself in the morning, but I would have a good time before that.

[silverbear]

This will be a long post so I hope you read it. I have no proof Owens will be a Cowboy. This is all just my opinion and thoughts. Go ahead and read around and you will see this is MY thinking.

Oh, for God's sake, get off TO's jock... I mean, seriously, try thinking about the situation before inflicting this twaddle on us...

Parcells has said he's too old for "thugs and hoodlums"; TO is both... Parcells got rid of Anthony Bryant, now you think he's gonna bring in a player who makes AB look like a choirboy??

And of course, Jerry still has to sign the paycheck, and do you REALLY think he'd be up for throwing megadollars at the guy who desecrated the star??

A snowball stands a better chance in Hades than TO does of ever being a Dallas Cowboy... make your peace with that, and know that your dream is my nightmare...

Though I'm loathe to question your credentials as a Cowboys fan, I can't understand how ANY real Cowboys fan would EVER want that piece of crap wearing the star... it makes my blood boil just reading threads like this one...

[Rack Bauer]

your question is why you think to will become a cowboy? the answer....you're an idiot...that's why :)


:hammer:


Agree 100% with ALL of it.

[silverbear]

Dude you make very valid points.

No, he doesn't...

T.O. has made alot of mistakes and I truely believe this one has hit home.

And why do you believe that?? Because he "apologized"?? Did you SEE that joke of an apology?? There was no genuine contrition shown there...

BP can handle with no problem and I bet T.O. would give the RESPECT he demands.

Owens doesn't respect anybody, and he never will... he's a punk, plain and simple... you're deluding yourself if you believe otherwise, he wore out his welcome in San Francisco, and has quickly worn out his welcome in Philthydelphia...

Its very possible that he could land here

When donkeys fly...

I don't think he would be the same person with the BOYZ that he was with the Eagles or 49ers. He doesn't wanna be in the negative spot light anymore.

I think you're out of your freakin' mind if you believe that...

[Alexander]

Though I'm loathe to question your credentials as a Cowboys fan, I can't understand how ANY real Cowboys fan would EVER want that piece of crap wearing the star... it makes my blood boil just reading threads like this one...

But what would you do if, and I said, IF this occurred.

Would you firebomb Valley Ranch?

Tearfully burn all of your Cowboys merchandise in a bonfire?

Or would your blood just boil?

I have yet to see many advocating for his acquisition. But if it occurred, I have enough faith in the decision makers in the franchise to realize they were attempting to win a championship.

I was not thrilled about the Charles Haley trade. But I understood it and did not go and kick the dog.

I was less than enthused about the Deion Sanders signing. But I did not go postal and go shoot up a fast food establishment.

Some of you take fan passion to extremes. Almost like a child.

[silverbear]

I support more than the uniform. I have to support the players on the team as well.

JD, I loathe Owens with the same white hot passion you do, and if he signed with the Boys, I'd still follow them...

But I'd root for him to sustain a career-ending injury each and every Sunday... I'd cheer if that injury ever occurred...

[silver]

this is an excersize in futility. owens will never play in the nfl again.

[silverbear]

Sorry you have a problem with me questioning you. No need to get defensive.

You suggested there was a player's "vote". And nobody can verify that. Just some off the cuff comments that "players wanted him gone". Well of course many of the players wanted him gone. That does nothing to validate that there was a "vote", which Reid's comments also deny.

And why exactly is that so important to you?? It doesn't change the fact that you cheerfully acknowledge, that the guy is detested by the vast majority of his teammates...

And that being the case, what makes you think the situation will be any different wherever he winds up next?? The guy has always been eager to throw teammates under the bus when it suits his agenda...

[JackMagist]

this is an excersize in futility. owens will never play in the nfl again.Oh that it were only true. Owens will find someone foolish enough or desperate enough to hire him if he is willing to take the deal. I do think he has seen his last big contract offer though.

[silverbear]

It was reported that members of the team did not want him back. I am not disputing that. Just this overly dramatic and yet to be verified vote which you claim happened. It was "verified" by Sal Paolantonio, yet denied by the head coach himself. But I am supposed to believe Reid has an agenda and some writer from ESPN who is paid for news/rumor doesn't?

Again, whether or not an actual vote was ever taken, it seems to me that JD has adequately documented his claim, which is that it was REPORTED that the Iggles' players had conducted a vote...

That being the case, why are you still giving JD a ration of crap?? Are you some kind of TO groupie, on a mission from God to rescue his reputation??



I never have absolved Owens of any responsibility. He made his own bed. But again, the automatic assumption is by laymen (you, me and everyone else) that we would NEVER EVER have anything to do with him. Fact is, we don't know. Chances are we wouldn't. But I have a feeling the only doors being shut are by fans moreso than the organization.



I am not spinning anything. I am just trying to get to the facts which are few and far between in this soap opera.[/QUOTE]

[Alexander]

And why exactly is that so important to you?? It doesn't change the fact that you cheerfully acknowledge, that the guy is detested by the vast majority of his teammates...

You apparently are missing the point.

I just don't have the "white hot" and "boiling" passion for this that you do that I would go off the deep end if for some reason the team decided to sign Owens.

And that being the case, what makes you think the situation will be any different wherever he winds up next?? The guy has always been eager to throw teammates under the bus when it suits his agenda...

I have not defended a thing Owens has done. I just am amused by the emotional reaction he gets. You have fans who have most assuredly followed the team for years literally vowing to to never watch the team again or swear off the sport entirely just because it occurs. In my view, that is a pathetic viewpoint. Moreover, you get some who are holier than thou who want to question another's loyalty as a fan because they disagree. That is asinine.

And like I said, very much like a frustrated child.

[silverbear]

I remember when we gave a 2nd rounder to the 49ers for Charles Haley. He was supposed to be a locker room cancer.

Haley never pulled one tenth of the crap TO has... he also had a reputation as a passionate team leader on the field...

Your comparison doesn't work, and any number of levels...

[silver]

Oh that it were only true. Owens will find someone foolish enough or desperate enough to hire him if he is willing to take the deal. I do think he has seen his last big contract offer though.

i disagree. guys have been banned before. maybe not forever but he'll have to sit a while. i can think of duane thomas and hollywood henderson as two who were not given third or fourth chances anymore. of course their problems were drugs and not attitude. jeff george is another one who comes to mind. after being the 1st pick overall he had to sit out a year at some point. deion sanders had to sit out too. this will be a first as far as TO being at the top of his game and all. but i can bet he won't be playing anywhere in 06.

[Alexander]

Haley never pulled on tenth of the crap TO has... he also had a reputation as a passionate team leader on the field...

Your comparison doesn't work, and any number of levels...

So, defecating on the dashboard of an assistant coach's automobile is less deplorable than stating Brett Favre would be a better QB for your team?

[silver]

Haley never pulled on tenth of the crap TO has... he also had a reputation as a passionate team leader on the field...

Your comparison doesn't work, and any number of levels...

Haley tried to pull the same crap but he encountered meaner dogs in dallas, namely nate newton and mark tuinei who were crazier than him.

[Alexander]

Haley tried to pull the same crap but he encountered meaner dogs in dallas, namely nate newton and mark tuinei who were crazier than him.

He also had a coach in Jimmy Johnson that basically told him the way it was.

On a primitive level, he understood.

And in a way, with the alpha male mentality Owens has, he needs that as well.

[silverbear]

But what would you do if, and I said, IF this occurred.

Would you firebomb Valley Ranch?

Naw, you go to jail for that kind of stuff, and I'm WAY too pretty for jail...

Tearfully burn all of your Cowboys merchandise in a bonfire?

Nope... but I rather doubt that I'd buy any more while he was on the roster...

Or would your blood just boil?

Ding ding ding ding ding... I'd be PISSED OFF... royally pissed off...

I have yet to see many advocating for his acquisition. But if it occurred, I have enough faith in the decision makers in the franchise to realize they were attempting to win a championship.

I have enough faith in the decision makers in the franchise to be confident Owens will never be a Dallas Cowboy...

Some of you take fan passion to extremes. Almost like a child.

Hey, you can do childlike... check out your baiting of JD Smith over his claim that there was a report that the Iggles' players voted to ask management not to bring TO back... you've been worryin' that one like a ****zu at a chew toy...

[Coakleys Dad]

I say give him a contract full of incentives like: if u take a poop on a thursday you get fined 60,000 dollars, burp & not say excuse me fine of 75,000 dollars. U get the point.... put him on a leash.....

[Alexander]

I have enough faith in the decision makers in the franchise to be confident Owens will never be a Dallas Cowboy...

Do I believe that Coach Parcells would do it? No.

But would I totally discount it? Absolutely not. He did not recoil in horror when he was asked the questions today in his press conference. If he wanted to, he would do it and he would control him. I firmly believe that. And if he decided to do it, I would be right behind him. He has the track record with Glenn and Johnson and if he was okay with it, so would I.

Hey, you can do childlike... check out your baiting of JD Smith over his claim that there was a report that the Iggles' players voted to ask management not to bring TO back... you've been worryin' that one like a ****zu at a chew toy...

I am glad to see that you feel compelled to defend JDSmith. He defended himself and I don't think I was attacking. I am fine with his assertions and I really don't necessarily believe them. But the facts don't support the detail of a player "vote". That was my point of contention.

[silverbear]

You apparently are missing the point.

I just don't have the "white hot" and "boiling" passion for this that you do that I would go off the deep end if for some reason the team decided to sign Owens.

Your actions are at odds with your words... you have expended a considerable amount of bandwidth in this thread for somebody who doesn't really care all that much...



I have not defended a thing Owens has done.

Oh, I understand that...

I just am amused by the emotional reaction he gets. You have fans who have most assuredly followed the team for years literally vowing to to never watch the team again or swear off the sport entirely just because it occurs.

Actually, we have a SINGLE fan saying that... and I rather suspect that JD's love of the Cowboys would eventually win out if Owens was signed, that he'd still root for the Boys in spite of his pledge...

But I understand that pledge, it resonates with me... it resonates because I do remember the a****le who desecrated the star, and can't begin to imagine him now playing for the Cowboys... he proved that he doesn't give a crap about the Dallas Cowboys... but more important, it resonates with me because everywhere Owens has gone, he's wound up hurting the team he plays for with his garbage...

The logical question is, why would you (I mean you personally) WANT a player on the team that you KNOW has been destructive everywhere he's played?? Do you secretly hate the Cowboys, and would find amusement in him doing to the Boys what he did to the Niners and Iggles??

[JackMagist]

i disagree. guys have been banned before. maybe not forever but he'll have to sit a while. i can think of duane thomas and hollywood henderson as two who were not given third or fourth chances anymore. of course their problems were drugs and not attitude. jeff george is another one who comes to mind. after being the 1st pick overall he had to sit out a year at some point. deion sanders had to sit out too. this will be a first as far as TO being at the top of his game and all. but i can bet he won't be playing anywhere in 06.Actually Hollywood Henderson was given second and third chances. He was getting yet another chance after some jail time when he broke his neck in training camp with the Dolphins and could not play again.

As for Duane Thomas; I don't think he wanted to play anymore after washing out in San Deigo. I'm sure he could have gotten another chance had he tried. And you can't be serious about Jeff George not getting second chances; he was signed off of FA by the Redskins and the Raiders and I forget who all else after playing in Atlanta. George didn't quit getting jobs until he started to get too old to play.

How many chances did Andre Rison get? He was a lower case TO in his own right but he kept getting chances. The Cowboys gave Keyshawn yet another chance when many around the league were saying much the same things about him that are being said about TO.

No, as much as I would like it to be true I just don't think that we have seen the last of TO.

[silverbear]

So, defecating on the dashboard of an assistant coach's automobile is less deplorable than stating Brett Favre would be a better QB for your team?

First off, you're taking probably the single worst incident in Haley's life, and comparing it to one of the most innocuous in TO's... that's rather disingenuous of you... it surprises me, somebody who claims not to be all that emotionally invested in this issue, resorting that sort of dishonesty in his desperate attempt to make a point...

I'd say a better example of Haley's propensity for being a loose cannon came in the season Emmitt missed the first 2 games in a contract dispute, and the Cowboys lost both... Charles went off in the locker room, smashed a hole or two in the walls with his helmet...

And Emmitt was signed within days... to me, that's an example of a teammate with an attitude using that 'tude for the GOOD of the team... I challenge you to show me any similar examples with Owens...

While what Haley did was upsetting to the coach in question, but not damaging to the team... what TO does destroys his team... so yeah, I'd say that crapping on the dashboard of a car (incidentally, are you sure you're not exaggerating that episode?? I'd heard that urinated on the tires of that coach's car) is somewhat less deplorable than throwing your quarterback under a bus in the media... in fact, many of Haley's teammates probably gave him a quiet, amused "attaboy" for that stunt, while most of TO's teammates were clearly NOT amused...

IOW, your attempts to draw parallels between Haley and TO are bovine fecal matter...

[Alexander]

Your actions are at odds with your words... you have expended a considerable amount of bandwidth in this thread for somebody who doesn't really care all that much...

No, I just react when I see overly emotional outpourings. This is a hot button issue and I appreciate that. What this thread started with was some poster saying why he thought it could happen. It could happen. The chance is slight, but it exists.

Actually, we have a SINGLE fan saying that... and I rather suspect that JD's love of the Cowboys would eventually win out if Owens was signed, that he'd still root for the Boys in spite of his pledge...

Which I agree with, even though I don't know the poster. Would any of us be here in the wee hours if we weren't passionate?

But I understand that pledge, it resonates with me... it resonates because I do remember the a****le who desecrated the star, and can't begin to imagine him now playing for the Cowboys... he proved that he doesn't give a crap about the Dallas Cowboys... but more important, it resonates with me because everywhere Owens has gone, he's wound up hurting the team he plays for with his garbage...

I agree. I don't care for Owens the person one bit. I don't like what he did, I smiled when George Teague layed him out. But I don't think for a millisecond that Coach Parcells views it in such terms as Cowboy loyalty. Jerry Jones might. But if Coach Parcells wanted Owens, he would get him.

The logical question is, why would you (I mean you personally) WANT a player on the team that you KNOW has been destructive everywhere he's played?? Do you secretly hate the Cowboys, and would find amusement in him doing to the Boys what he did to the Niners and Iggles??

Once again, I have never advocated the signing. I have just said that if I happened, I would have to cope. Just like I did with Deion Sanders. Just like I did with Charles Haley.

I certainly would not swear off the Cowboys or stop watching the sport.

[silverbear]

He also had a coach in Jimmy Johnson that basically told him the way it was.

On a primitive level, he understood.

And in a way, with the alpha male mentality Owens has, he needs that as well.

It's naive of you to think that Owens will EVER recognize or respect authority... by now, he's proven pretty conclusively that he's a card-carrying sociopath... if he was 5-10 years younger, I MIGHT be willing to concede the possibility that he'd eventually grow up, but not at this stage of his career...

[Alexander]

First off, you're taking probably the single worst incident in Haley's life, and comparing it to one of the most innocuous in TO's... that's rather disingenuous of you... it surprises me, somebody who claims not to be all that emotionally invested in this issue, resorting that sort of dishonesty in his desperate attempt to make a point...

I'd say a better example of Haley's propensity for being a loose cannon came in the season Emmitt missed the first 2 games in a contract dispute, and the Cowboys lost both... Charles went off in the locker room, smashed a hole or two in the walls with his helmet...

And Emmitt was signed within days... to me, that's an example of a teammate with an attitude using that 'tude for the GOOD of the team... I challenge you to show me any similar examples with Owens...

While what Haley did was upsetting to the coach in question, but not damaging to the team... what TO does destroys his team... so yeah, I'd say that crapping on the dashboard of a car (incidentally, are you sure you're not exaggerating that episode?? I'd heard that urinated on the tires of that coach's car) is somewhat less deplorable than throwing your quarterback under a bus in the media... in fact, many of Haley's teammates probably gave him a quiet, amused "attaboy" for that stunt, while most of TO's teammates were clearly NOT amused...

IOW, your attempts to draw parallels between Haley and TO are bovine fecal matter...

The incident I was speak of occurred in San Francisco as far as I am aware. Not Dallas.

And whether it was defecation or urination, how is that any less disrespectful than saying that you would prefer Brett Favre over Donovan McNabb?

[silverbear]

Do I believe that Coach Parcells would do it? No.

Well then, we at least agree on that much...

But would I totally discount it? Absolutely not. He did not recoil in horror when he was asked the questions today in his press conference. If he wanted to, he would do it and he would control him. I firmly believe that. And if he decided to do it, I would be right behind him. He has the track record with Glenn and Johnson and if he was okay with it, so would I.

Again, not a good comparison... he had history with Glenn and Johnson, so he pretty much knew what he was getting...

I am glad to see that you feel compelled to defend JDSmith. He defended himself and I don't think I was attacking.

Hey, I like the guy, and I tend to stick up for my buddies... it DID seem to me like you were attacking him, but of course the written word is a difficult method of communication, and if you tell me that was not your intent, I have no reason not to take you at your word...

[Alexander]

It's naive of you to think that Owens will EVER recognize or respect authority... by now, he's proven pretty conclusively that he's a card-carrying sociopath... if he was 5-10 years younger, I MIGHT be willing to concede the possibility that he'd eventually grow up, but not at this stage of his career...

It is equally naive of you to assume that you know what another man would or would not do.

Take this advice from Coach Parcells today:

Well, when you aren’t on the inside of a place, you don’t know what happened. I understand, having been a HC for a while, you run into situations that are difficult for everyone.

[Alexander]

Again, not a good comparison... he had history with Glenn and Johnson, so he pretty much knew what he was getting...

Not a comparison. A parallel. There is a difference.

Hey, I like the guy, and I tend to stick up for my buddies... it DID seem to me like you were attacking him, but of course the written word is a difficult method of communication, and if you tell me that was not your intent, I have no reason not to take you at your word...

It happens all the time.

[silverbear]

It is equally naive of you to assume that you know what another man would or would not do.

You can only judge a man on his track record, pal... same as you and the other readers in here judge me on what I write...

I'm content to have my actions (words) represent the "real" me... and I refuse to assume pure motives from a guy who has been a selfish as long as he's been in the public eye...

[The Fonz]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!!!!!!!!!
CAN WE PLEASE BAN AND DO HURTFUL THINGS TO THE.... PEOPLE... WHO MAKE ASININE "T.O. to Dallas!" THREADS??????

PLEASE PLEASE!

THESE ARE USUALLY THE SAME.... PEOPLE... WHO KEEP SAYING THE BOYS NEED TO BRING BACK QUINCY.

PLEASE PLEASE! BAN THESE... PEOPLE.

(My mother said don't call people names, so I won't. But know that the contempt I have these people is enormous and they are disgrace to the idea of fans of the TEAM).

Can we also ban thos who use caps :D

what is wrong with TO coming here? this is not a church team. there are alot of thugs playing in all kind of sports it is about wining .TO wants more money wrong or right I say why not if he can.if he end up in dallas he will be a diffrent man i can grantee u he is not that stupid.I don't love nor I hate players becouse I really don't know them on the personal level I want the team to win regardless who is playing.

[silverbear]

Not a comparison. A parallel. There is a difference.

Yeah, there is... but the "parallels" don't work either, for the exact same reasons-- Parcells had history with Glenn and Johnson, he doesn't with TO...

It happens all the time.

Yes, it does, to all of us... I was glad to hear that I'd misjudged you, and happy that you understand my natural instinct to come to the defense of somebody I like...

[AceofSpades]

Question: Don't we already have 2 WR's who were kicked off/deactivated from their team? Why not a third? ;)

[Chocolate Lab]

It is equally naive of you to assume that you know what another man would or would not do.
Yet in this same thread you tell us the way we would feel if Owens signed here... :rolleyes:

Just because you're only rooting for laundry doesn't mean we all are.

[SuspectCorner]

if i'm bill parcells and i've got a team on the upswing - a team with a pretty unified "one for all - all for one" ethic... do i introduce the antithesis of that ethic in order to get the most physically gifted player at the WR position.

heeeeeeey-ull no.

TO ain't ever gonna be a team player. or FOB material. never ever ever. would ya want him in a foxhole with YOU?

[ZRO]

Terrell Owens whined and begged all off-season to go to Philadelphia, that was the ONLY team he wanted to play for.

He got there, and got a $49 million dollar contract,

Made the pro bowl.

Went to the Superbowl.

STILL COMPLAINED.

He's never going to be happy, the last thing I want is for him to come and tear this team apart.

JUST SAY NO!

[DallasDomination]

I liked the read.


I wouldnt mind having TO as a COWBOY.


This will be a long post so I hope you read it. I have no proof Owens will be a Cowboy. This is all just my opinion and thoughts. Go ahead and read around and you will see this is MY thinking.

I know we could pass on T.O. His behavior could be one of TWO reasons we do not get him. The other reason could be that Philly will trade him for nothing to make sure T.O. never becomes a Cowboy.


Well first take a look at this post Woodys Girl put up.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39982 (http:///)
Read real close what a few Cowboy players and Parcells said. I guess you can get what you want from it but to me I think they are being very careful what the say. And IMO for one reason. They all know we are gonna make a big move for T.O.


Think about this.

Parcells is near the end of his contract. My guess is he extends it another 2 years and then calls it quits for good. He would love to go out winning 1 or 2 more Super Bowl. Terell Owens is the one player that can give this team such a big impact player that it would make us into Super Bowl contenders right away.

Look. We fix our biggest weakness the OL and that can be done. We get T.O. and now we have one of the best 3 WRs in the game. He will give us a huge WR that is a very dangerous deep threat. A WR that can take any catch to the house at any time.

He will open up our running game. He will open up our other WRs to.

Like what Irvin said or not....we do not have a real #1 WR. We have a bunch of #2 WRs.


Glenn and Keyshawn do not give DCs nights where they can not go to sleep. Terell Owens does.


If Owens goes to the Cowboys I think he will behave good. And for 2 reasons

1. Parcells might be the only coach who can control him and that Owens would respect.

2. I do not think Owens would wanna do something to let Michael Irvin down. Oh yeah I know it sounds silly here but who is one of the few people who is defending Owens. It is Irvin. If Irvin tells him to go to Dallas and I bet he does then I think Owens will do good here and behave.


Also. Dont think Parcells does not see what a hard worker Owens is. I can guarentee you BP saw the super hard work Owens put in just to make it back to the Super Bowl. You can bet things like that could make him a Parcells Guy!

Yeah T.O. wants money but he also wants to win. He also wants to win Super Bowls. Dont fool yourself.

I also think Owens would like to be here for some reasons.

1. He sees this team is on the up and he could be a big part in it winning Super Bowls.

2. He hates the Eagles and their fans. What better way to get back at them then to be a Cowboy and win Super Bowls as a Cowboy. And get to taunt them 2 times a year. Oh believe me....Owens knows being a Cowboy would p*ss off Eagle fans more then going to any other team.


We seriously are a big play WR and improved OL away from being maybe a dynasty team. We get Owens and improve that line....well it can be done.


Now think about this. Here is how we give Owens his big contract.

Make it for 3 years.

1st year is guarenteed. each year after is a option. Now the way it works is this. He makes the smallest amount of money his 1st year. Then gets a huge jump in $$$$ year #2 and a bigger jump in year #3. He will get his money IFFFFFF HE BEHAVES!!! And then give him a special bonus for every Super Bowl the Cowboys win.

If he becomes a problem his 1st year here we can cut him and not use the options.

A contract can be done to get him $$$$ and make him a good player here.


I do not know about the rest of you but if we sign T.O. and I think we will. I back the move cuz I know it will be very good for us.


Think about it. BP will be around 3 more years after this at the most. T.O. is a money player that can win him some Super Bowls on his way out. My guess is he is not gonna pass this one up. Maybe I am wrong.....but with this what I bring up you now have to think I have a good point.

[JonJon]

What TO will look like as a Cowboy next year...

http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/223/todallas1kf.jpg

[wesleyc288]

I just simply dont think ANYONE will be able to control this guy......but the first post had me thinking....WHAT IF???? i think that there are simply too many "what ifs" to take a chance, although if we somehow could control him...... we would have one hell of a squad!

[DallasDomination]

What TO will look like as a Cowboy next year...

http://img435.imageshack.us/img435/223/todallas1kf.jpg
lol...Hey im going to share thi pic on my car forum....All rights reserved to you dont worry.

[SkinsandTerps]

TO has ruined his career. He will never get the big payday that he expects.

2 teams had serious interest in this guy less than 2 years ago.

What happens next is beyond me.

[ka0tik]

Look @ it this way:

Its like a office man workin for another kompany, goes to another kompany and disses everybody there! (t.o kame with niners and dissed the sakred star)

now they ''fire'' this guy from his old work place, and u think the kompany he dissed is gonna emplOy him? ...uuUuuuh hell no. :D

PeaCe

[CliffnMesquite]

As long as his contract stipulates he can be cut at any time for cause. I would welcome him with open arms if for no other reason that to taunt the Eagles.

[BHendri5]

I do not care what it isad about T.O., if we were to sign him and I hope we do. I'll root for him as I do everyone else. I have been a Cowboys fan for 40yrs now and just because they sign a malcontent (by the media standards) I will still root for him. He has the talent to help this team even more. So he officially is on my wish list.

anyone that all of a sudden decides not to watch the team because of the signing was just a bandwagon person in the first place.

He is or was the best WR in the league, I'll take him all day long, attitude and all.

[BHendri5]

T.O. will get a big contract. He'll dominate again next season. Sign him Jerry.

[PeeKZ_333]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, cuz I didnt read previous posts due to the length, but I sure as hell havent forgotten what T.O has done to the Cowboys and the incident on THE STAR. No one disrespects us like that and then gets loved by us after!!

[Grevus]

I would love to have TO on this team. I really don't care about the crap he brings with him. I think the Eagles did it all wrong. They let this guy become a cancer. They should have been on top of him every time he did something. They let him get away with crap.

As far as talent, he's got it. With him on the Cowboys, we would immediately become a contender.

[Kendo]

What a bunch of B.S. this whole thread is.....

I think that the majority of people here would agree on a couple of things.

1) Most people do not want T.O. to come to Dallas......ever. Not playing for us and not playing against us. Scary talent : Scary attitude :eek:

2) If for some reason he did sign with the boys, we would support the team regardless. Those that would not support the team are full of it. You can't tell me that the decisions that the management makes about players will sway you from watching the team most of us live and die for. If not, then go find another team to support. :starspin

I personally hope that he does not come to the boys, but if he does I will watch every single move that he does with extra scrutiny hoping that he behaves himself within reason. Ironically enough, I think he talked himself out of the long term contract that he and Rosenhaus so desired. For the rest of his short career I think he will be looking at short term contracts with plenty of "loyalty" clauses.

The idealist would like to believe that T.O. could come to the Cowboys for a reasonable contract, contribute his talent and be happy while we run to a couple of championships. The pessimist would believe that Jerry signs T.O. to a ridiculous contract and the locker room implodes immediately thereafter because there aren't enough mic's for Keyshawn and T.O. at the first press conference. Realistically the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

Let us proceed :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

[Chuck 54]

Dang...I feel like Rip Van Winkle, and I just woke up on April 1.

[DallasDomination]

What ever guys you know damn well if TO became a COWBOy we would all be on his NUTS!.

[silverbear]

Not sure if anyone mentioned this, cuz I didnt read previous posts due to the length, but I sure as hell havent forgotten what T.O has done to the Cowboys and the incident on THE STAR. No one disrespects us like that and then gets loved by us after!!

Some folks have no self-respect, Peek, and those are the guys screaming for us to go out and sign TO...

I'd rather lose with honor than win with that piece of crap... of course, you can still win without TO, in fact I can't recall the last Super Bowl champ that had that putz playing for it...

[silverbear]

What ever guys you know damn well if TO became a COWBOy we would all be on his NUTS!.

Speak for yourself, man... I loathe Terrell Owens with the special loathing I reserve for athlete/punks like Plaxico Burress, Randy Moss and Allan Iverson... that wouldn't change if he donned a Cowboys uniform...

Oh, I'd still be a huge fan of the team, I'd just root for him to have his career ended...

[TruBlueCowboy]

Parcells hates prima donnas, there's only room for one of 'em on the Cowboys, and that's the Tuna himself. ;)

I honestly think the Cowboys would be the #1 offense in the NFL next year if they put TO in. Besides some oline depth, having a go-to #1 receiver who always demands respect from defenses is really the only thing this offense is missing.

But I'd hate having a guy on the team who I know is only one QB bad performance... one injury on the offensive line... one fight with the head coach... away from having a temper tantrum and gradually turning against the team. I also think Cowboys fans in general hate TO because of the star incident and the humble Puritan mindest in Texas. The guy would probably get hissed at from day one. No one really liked Deion Sanders when he was in town either.

Who knows? The Cowboys did win Super Bowls with Duane Thomas and Charles Haley. They're winning right now with Keyshawn Johnson, who was also suspended and supposd to be the bad guy in love with himself. Parcells has a way of commanding respect, but it does backfire sometimes with guys like Antonio Bryant. I'm thinking it's only the young dumb rookies who have problems with him, not the vets.

Now that TO has basically cut himself out of any expensive long-term contract like he wanted, it may be something to look at. There's a lot in this story that we has fans don't know. If Bill and Jerry snoop around the Eagles organization with some "inside sources" maybe they'll discover it wasn't as bad as reported.

The important thing to remember is TO usually has his problems when he's not getting the new contract he wants. Fix the financial problems and you have a guy who is arguably the best receiver in the league.

[yesfan]

I remember when Deion came to Dallas,i really
didn't care for his brand either,however,i had never seen
an entire side of the field not being thrown to,so i
became a fan.T.O.is a cancer,yes he's very talented,
but he undermines an entire team and i think more
than anything else,what coach is going to agree with their
boss,to work with him.

[genlee]

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2000/0925/photo/a_owens_i.jpg

Does this really need to be discussed any further. Either there is a lot of new cowboy fans or a lot of people with short term memory problems.

[TruBlueCowboy]

http://espn-att.starwave.com/media/nfl/2000/0925/photo/a_owens_i.jpg

Does this really need to be discussed any further. Either there is a lot of new cowboy fans or a lot of people with short term memory problems.

I doubt anyone on the current team hates him for that moment. I think it's one of those things that fans who live vicariously through the team take serious, but coaches and players don't lose sleep over. It's still important, though, because if the Cowboys ever decided to pursue TO, I think fans would remind him of that day from game one. Then he'd score 2-3 touchdowns that game and everyone would cheer for him. We're fickle. ;)

[LaTunaNostra]

You call call me cheap, but I look at Owens like I would a high priced call girl with a impressive body and an attitude. The moral side says no way, but the goods are hard to resist as you dole out the cash. I might hate myself in the morning, but I would have a good time before that.
Good analogy if you include the repercussions, like a messy divorce when the wife finds out. The good time has to be VERY good (like leading to a ring), to make it worth it.

If you could just throw TO out of bed in the morning, that would be fine.

But the guy is a home wrecker and any franchise he touches pays the price.

[joseephuss]

I do not care what it isad about T.O., if we were to sign him and I hope we do. I'll root for him as I do everyone else. I have been a Cowboys fan for 40yrs now and just because they sign a malcontent (by the media standards) I will still root for him. He has the talent to help this team even more. So he officially is on my wish list.


Two teams got tired of dealing with him. This is not just a media driven situation. There are some serious problems witht his guy.

[hipfake08]

I would like Adam to reply on this one. ;)

[Compacity]

I hope T.O do sign with the Cowboys... I believe with the Cowboys past at getting free agents or trading for a player, they never had any problems out of free agents or people they traded for, and Keyshawn was in the same situation two years ago in Tampa Bay....

And look at his attitude then and look at it now... I think we could do the same with T.O he just needs to be around the right people...

[yesfan]

I for one can't see Jerry telling Bill.that Terrell
is coming to Dallas.Unless a puppet coach,ie a Campo
type,i just can't see him being tolerated anymore.He's
only going to want to be on a contender.

[Jack Burton]

Look @ it this way:

Its like a office man workin for another kompany, goes to another kompany and disses everybody there! (t.o kame with niners and dissed the sakred star)

now they ''fire'' this guy from his old work place, and u think the kompany he dissed is gonna emplOy him? ...uuUuuuh hell no. :D

PeaCe


Hey man, I'm not trying to be rude, but you need to fix your sig. It's not working and it messes up the margins.

Thanks.

[Dayton Cowboy]

I will definately say that I have NO desire to see Owens in a Cowboy uniform. Do I believe it is within the realm of possibility that Jerry and BP will consider bringing him in if he is indeed released.. Yes.. But at the end of the day I think the chemistry of this team would seriously be destroyed. Cowboys are a very young team at a lot of positions. I'd like to build on that youth in years to come and would much rather try to get a young WR either in the draft or a younger vet WR. We have enough older wr's on the roster already. We've had a lot of complaints that we are old at the position already. TO is 32. So finding a rookie in next years draft class would be a bigger priority to me than signing someone that has had very bad clashes with both his previous teammates and coaches.

[burmafrd]

There is no way that BP wants that cancer on his team. Just NO WAY. And I really thing that JJ feels the same way.

[Hostile]

After mixing it up with Wolverine 2 nights ago I decided to stay out of this one for a while. Well, a while is over.

For all of his talent Terrell Owens has not put a team over the hump to Super Bowl Championships. Even last year the Eagles got to the big game without him.

Terrell Owens = missing piece of Championship puzzle?

I'm sorry but I just don't see the math. Based on what? His talent? Randy Moss is just as talented. Has he played for a Championship?

Talent alone simply doesn't get it done. It never has, and it never will.

The teams that win it all are united in their cause. Anyone who tries to tell me Terrell Owens would be united with the whole team simply isn't paying attention. Again, based on what? The apology yesterday? Watch it again. While Rosenhaus is railing on the Eagles after Terrell's apology you can see him in the background smiling. His apology seemed sincere. At least right up until his spokeman started yapping.

Why would we want that in Dallas?

No doubt about it, the temptation is there because the man is seriously gifted. Like most temptations he isn't worth it.

I hope everyone who played on a football team at any level will chime in on this...

Chemistry matters.

To me there is not much in the world of sports more galling than disrespecting the harmony of the locker room. I played with an All American Tight End. He got into issues that ended up with him being kicked off the team. The mood in the Locker Room changed after he and another player (a very good LB) were shown the door.

That's where I draw the line. He's not worth bringing in at any price. No trash in the locker room. It would be flushing money (and what Parcells and Jones are building) right down the drain.

Not just no, hell no.

I applaud Parcells and Jones for ridding this team of locker room drama queens. Stay on that course.

[dfense]

you are high.

[Yeagermeister]

repeat after me

SAY NO TOO TO
SAY NO TOO TO
SAY NO TOO TO

Yes he is an all world talent but he is also an all world cancer and jackarse :mule:

[joseephuss]

After mixing it up with Wolverine 2 nights ago I decided to stay out of this one for a while. Well, a while is over.

For all of his talent Terrell Owens has not put a team over the hump to Super Bowl Championships. Even last year the Eagles got to the big game without him.

Terrell Owens = missing piece of Championship puzzle?

I'm sorry but I just don't see the math. Based on what? His talent? Randy Moss is just as talented. Has he played for a Championship?

Talent alone simply doesn't get it done. It never has, and it never will.

The teams that win it all are united in their cause. Anyone who tries to tell me Terrell Owens would be united with the whole team simply isn't paying attention. Again, based on what? The apology yesterday? Watch it again. While Rosenhaus is railing on the Eagles after Terrell's apology you can see him in the background smiling. His apology seemed sincere. At least right up until his spokeman started yapping.

Why would we want that in Dallas?

No doubt about it, the temptation is there because the man is seriously gifted. Like most temptations he isn't worth it.

I hope everyone who played on a football team at any level will chime in on this...

Chemistry matters.

To me there is not much in the world of sports more galling than disrespecting the harmony of the locker room. I played with an All American Tight End. He got into issues that ended up with him being kicked off the team. The mood in the Locker Room changed after he and another player (a very good LB) were shown the door.

That's where I draw the line. He's not worth bringing in at any price. No trash in the locker room. It would be flushing money (and what Parcells and Jones are building) right down the drain.

Not just no, hell no.

I applaud Parcells and Jones for ridding this team of locker room drama queens. Stay on that course.


Chemistry matter a lot. I would be very concerned in how Keyshawn and T.O. would interact. That could be a less than desirable situation. I think the Cowboys look into T.O., but I think the chances of him ending up in Dallas are slim.

[Doomsday101]

Chemistry matter a lot. I would be very concerned in how Keyshawn and T.O. would interact. That could be a less than desirable situation. I think the Cowboys look into T.O., but I think the chances of him ending up in Dallas are slim.

I agree. The upside to T.O. is he is one of the best WR in the league but his downside can rip a team apart. No one man is worth that

[Yeagermeister]

Chemistry matter a lot. I would be very concerned in how Keyshawn and T.O. would interact. That could be a less than desirable situation. I think the Cowboys look into T.O., but I think the chances of him ending up in Dallas are slim.
Alot of people keep saying he'll end up in Oakland. If he did, which I can't see happening because they are paying big money to two wrs already, Collins would have to learn to throw two balls at once because Moss and TO would be screaming for the ball on every play.

[WV Cowboy]

If Coach Parcells decides to bring in TO, then I would trust that he feels that he can handle him.

And I would support Parcells.

I will not lose any sleep either way though.

You can bank on one thing, I will ALWAYS be a Cowboys fan, ALWAYS, ... no matter what, no matter who wears the jersey.

:star: :starspin :star:

[Hostile]

If Coach Parcells decides to bring in TO, then I would trust that he feels that he can handle him.

And I would support Parcells.

I will not lose any sleep either way though.

You can bank on one thing, I will ALWAYS be a Cowboys fan, ALWAYS, ... no matter what, no matter who wears the jersey.

:star: :starspin :star:I think all of us will. I'm not talking about abandoning ship if he ends up here.

I simply don't see the logic of bringing him in. He's not a difference maker and he is a distraction.

2 negatives in this case do not make a positive.

[Nors]

After mixing it up with Wolverine 2 nights ago I decided to stay out of this one for a while. Well, a while is over.

For all of his talent Terrell Owens has not put a team over the hump to Super Bowl Championships. Even last year the Eagles got to the big game without him.

Terrell Owens = missing piece of Championship puzzle?

I'm sorry but I just don't see the math. Based on what? His talent? Randy Moss is just as talented. Has he played for a Championship?

Talent alone simply doesn't get it done. It never has, and it never will.

The teams that win it all are united in their cause. Anyone who tries to tell me Terrell Owens would be united with the whole team simply isn't paying attention. Again, based on what? The apology yesterday? Watch it again. While Rosenhaus is railing on the Eagles after Terrell's apology you can see him in the background smiling. His apology seemed sincere. At least right up until his spokeman started yapping.

Why would we want that in Dallas?

No doubt about it, the temptation is there because the man is seriously gifted. Like most temptations he isn't worth it.

I hope everyone who played on a football team at any level will chime in on this...

Chemistry matters.

To me there is not much in the world of sports more galling than disrespecting the harmony of the locker room. I played with an All American Tight End. He got into issues that ended up with him being kicked off the team. The mood in the Locker Room changed after he and another player (a very good LB) were shown the door.

That's where I draw the line. He's not worth bringing in at any price. No trash in the locker room. It would be flushing money (and what Parcells and Jones are building) right down the drain.

Not just no, hell no.

I applaud Parcells and Jones for ridding this team of locker room drama queens. Stay on that course.

Agreed - its not just personell

Good post

[Yeagermeister]

I think all of us will. I'm not talking about abandoning ship if he ends up here.

I simply don't see the logic of bringing him in. He's not a difference maker and he is a distraction.

2 negatives in this case do not make a positive.
I disagree that he's not a difference maker. He can make a huge difference but the problem is it can be good and bad. He'll help you win games but also tear the team apart.

[Doomsday101]

If Coach Parcells decides to bring in TO, then I would trust that he feels that he can handle him.

And I would support Parcells.

I will not lose any sleep either way though.

You can bank on one thing, I will ALWAYS be a Cowboys fan, ALWAYS, ... no matter what, no matter who wears the jersey.

:star: :starspin :star:

I agree with you on that. I may not want to see T.O. in Dallas but that would not change my loyalty to the Cowboys.

[WV Cowboy]

I think all of us will. I'm not talking about abandoning ship if he ends up here.

I simply don't see the logic of bringing him in. He's not a difference maker and he is a distraction.

2 negatives in this case do not make a positive.
I know you weren't Hos, but I do think he is a difference maker.

I would rather win the SB without him though.

All I was saying was that if Parcells meets with him and after that meeting feels he can work with and handle TO, ... then it's on.

[Hostile]

I disagree that he's not a difference maker. He can make a huge difference but the problem is it can be good and bad. He'll help you win games but also tear the team apart.By that I mean that he is not the final piece of a Championship puzzle. If he had that kind of label he'd have rings.

[Hostile]

I know you weren't Hos, but I do think he is a difference maker.

I would rather win the SB without him though.

All I was saying was that if Parcells meets with him and after that meeting feels he can work with and handle TO, ... then it's on.I understand that and would try to feel the same. I'll be honest, if he wears the uniform it won't make me like him. I'll root for the team and be thankful for what he brings that leads to wins, but I'll be a happier man the day he leaves than the day he arrives and any day in between.

[Hostile]

Agreed - its not just personell

Good postNice try.


Whiff.


:hammock:

[Doomsday101]

I understand that and would try to feel the same. I'll be honest, if he wears the uniform it won't make me like him. I'll root for the team and be thankful for what he brings that leads to wins, but I'll be a happier man the day he leaves than the day he arrives and any day in between.

I was brought up to believe respect is not given it is earned having said that if T.O. ever came to Dallas he would have to earn respect and not just as a football player but as a man and a teammate.

[Nors]

Nice try.


Whiff.


:hammock:


haha -

:violin:

[WoodysGirl]

perfect for this thread...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/toidiot.gif

[Hostile]

perfect for this thread...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/toidiot.gifI'm going to print that at home, laminate it, and give it to Shane the Eagles fan at work.

Beautiful.

[Yeagermeister]

perfect for this thread...

http://www.profootballtalk.com/toidiot.gif
I got that in an email yesterday :lmao:

[Cbz40]

That is beautiful......funnyyyyyy

[WV Cowboy]

I understand that and would try to feel the same. I'll be honest, if he wears the uniform it won't make me like him. I'll root for the team and be thankful for what he brings that leads to wins, but I'll be a happier man the day he leaves than the day he arrives and any day in between.

LOL, ... well put !

[WV Cowboy]

I'm going to print that at home, laminate it, and give it to Shane the Eagles fan at work.

Beautiful.
The microphone in TO's picture is in an odd place.

[WoodysGirl]

The microphone in TO's picture is in an odd place.~snicker~

Never even noticed it til u mentioned it.. :p:

[WV Cowboy]

~snicker~

Never even noticed it til u mentioned it.. :p:
I'm embarassed that I noticed it .. :D

[Hostile]

The microphone in TO's picture is in an odd place.Yeah it should be around back since that's where he talks.

[SkinsandTerps]

There is another one that has the # replaced with a Dollar sign that I saw recently.

[JonJon]

I seriously do not understand why some of you are some are so angry about this situation. If TO ever comes to Dallas, you better believe that it will only come after TO visits camp, displays that he can handle Parcells discipline, will be on the same page with the rest of the team, and be a team player. And he would be signed with major contractual stipulation clauses, in the event that he starts "acting the fool" he will be out of here. But in the event that he makes a Keyshawn-like U-turn, it would be all good.

And why all the hate because he stood on the star? Yes, he did it and we all were mad...I was as upset as anyone on this board, but that was years ago...get over it and grow up. Holding grudges for years is something women do. Besides, Roy got his revenge on TO last season for it. With that said, don't forget that Roy Williams is TO's daddy, so if he ever starts acting up in the locker room, Roy will set him straight.

So if TO can come to Dallas and contribute in a positive fashion, I would be all for it and cheer for him to do well. If he comes here an acts up, he is outta here and we move on.

[WV Cowboy]

Holding grudges for years is something women do.
Not all women, ... not mine.

(man I'm glad I didn't say that)

[Yeagermeister]

I seriously do not understand why some of you are some are so angry about this situation. If TO ever comes to Dallas, you better believe that it will only come after TO visits camp, displays that he can handle Parcells discipline, will be on the same page with the rest of the team, and be a team player. And he would be signed with major contractual stipulation clauses, in the event that he starts "acting the fool" he will be out of here. But in the event that he makes a Keyshawn-like U-turn, it would be all good.

And why all the hate because he stood on the star? Yes, he did it and we all were mad...I was as upset as anyone on this board, but that was years ago...get over it and grow up. Holding grudges for years is something women do. Besides, Roy got his revenge on TO last season for it. With that said, don't forget that Roy Williams is TO's daddy, so if he ever starts acting up in the locker room, Roy will set him straight.

So if TO can come to Dallas and contribute in a positive fashion, I would be all for it and cheer for him to do well. If he comes here an acts up, he is outta here and we move on.

The star incident isn't the only reason I don't like him. The main reason is he is a jackarse :mule:

He'll never be a team player because he only believes in I

[CrazyCowboy]

I heard it too.

The vote took place immediately after a victorious TO taunted "Anyone else want some? Huh! I thought not!", following his thrashing of the oaf-like Hugh Douglas.

None of the craven Eagles were willing to take the valiant warrior up on his challenge, but once the vindicated TO strode confidently from the locker room, the little people crept out and formed a hesitant circle.

"He's crazy", they whispered. "Let's vote him off the island before he comes back and pummels some more of us'. Looking for support to their winded and dry-heaving leader McChunky, who had slunk behind a locker during Braveheart's challenge, the gutless wonders one by one turned their puny thumbs down. McChunkey, soaked in the sweat of his TO fear, voted twice.

Thus was Valiant TO, hero of the 2004 season, exiled from his own tribe, less than a year after his glory. The decision was unanimous, and Momma McChunky made a hearty pot of soup for all.

Randy "The Manster" White would of had a hard time saying NO to the challenge!
:lmao:

[Yeagermeister]

Randy "The Manster" White would of had a hard time saying NO to the challenge!
:lmao:
Randy would have kicked his arse long before the situation came to a head.

[sf49rh8r]

Add in his desecration of OUR star....I'm with you...sounds like a lot of Sunday golf to me.

Kyle

[sf49rh8r]

No, I wouldn't. If you would, good for you. I would not root for or watch the team if they signed TO. I would simply stop watching football. You can believe me or not, it matters little to me.
Here, here...I've been a Cowboy fan for over 35 years. The signing of TO would put an immediate stop to that. More Sunday golf.


Cowboy fan in Hawaii

[sf49rh8r]

No, it's not remotely stupid. It's my position. If you don't agree with it that's fine, but calling it stupid just makes you seem like a .
YES!!!

[sf49rh8r]

Our image the last few years was to get away from the Drug using America's Team image of the mid-90's. Yet where has that gotten us? A few playoff appearances and exits. There are other players in the league who have had legal problems (Jamal Lewis, Sean Taylor and Ray Lewis) who havent been critcized and even though it was legal it wasnt blown out of proportion. TO is a bad teammate, plain and simple. But would you cheer for him if he was straightened out like his first few years in the league.
IMO we wont sign him, but if for some reason he is traded/signed by us it will be because BP wants to win and a 1 year deal worth plenty of money in bonuses wouldnt be out of the question. The Eagles wont trade him to us just because BP has the ability to control him. And if he couldnt we would cut him. So, we wont trade for him because we would be losing someone or a DP. We would have to sign him and I think Dallas is somewhere TO wants to go because we are improving. He would make our offseason. IMO if you stop because you hate TO, doesnt that make you a bandwagoner? Anyways, this is an idea that BP wanted us to consider and there is a small chance we will sign him, but we wont trade for him.
Criminal situations are to be handled by the courts. Yes, my hatred for TO is emotional and I'd even take juvenile but it would be the straw. And comparing him to Keyshawn. Come on...the only trait they share is that they both talk too much. Key is and has always been a team player. And who is to say that he wasn't right in NY and TB?


Cowboy fan in Hawaii

[ABQCOWBOY]

Why I don't think Terrill Owens will be a Cowboy:

Simple really. Hell has not yet frozen over.

;)

[sf49rh8r]

Any GM that signs him will be dealing with the dreaded "loyalty" clause which first came to be when Carl Pickens was being a problem in Cincinnati. I don't know the rules in terms of that as far as the NFLPA is concerned, but I am sure that the team that signs him (and someone will) shall at least attempt to wade into that pool.



That is nice in terms of romance concerning your favorite football team, but I wonder exactly how much many fellows such as yourself would be willing to follow through on it.

If we signed Owens, I would not like it. But I would trust that Coach Parcells knew what he was doing.

You call call me cheap, but I look at Owens like I would a high priced call girl with a impressive body and an attitude. The moral side says no way, but the goods are hard to resist as you dole out the cash. I might hate myself in the morning, but I would have a good time before that.
I guess in both cases you'd be f***ed!

[Falcon]

TO is a superb athelete.

TO is a supreme cancer in any organization.

TO would have to be sign to incentive laden deals that entice him to behave.

I do not think TO can behave himself. He has no self control.

TO is not worth the baggage he brings.

[JonJon]

Why I don't think Terrill Owens will be a Cowboy:

Simple really. Hell has not yet frozen over.

;)

http://cool.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/hell_freezing_over.jpg

:D

[Yakuza Rich]

This thread should be entitled "Why I think Yakuza Rich will throw up all over his shoes...."


Rich........

[sf49rh8r]

I do not care what it isad about T.O., if we were to sign him and I hope we do. I'll root for him as I do everyone else. I have been a Cowboys fan for 40yrs now and just because they sign a malcontent (by the media standards) I will still root for him. He has the talent to help this team even more. So he officially is on my wish list.

anyone that all of a sudden decides not to watch the team because of the signing was just a bandwagon person in the first place.

He is or was the best WR in the league, I'll take him all day long, attitude and all.
Satan just called...he wants to buy your soul too....

[ABQCOWBOY]

http://cool.blogs.com/photos/uncategorized/hell_freezing_over.jpg

:D

This sign looks as if it belongs in Minnesota.

Humm............ Minnesota..............

;)

[bsheeern]

You can consider it a juvenile perspective, but that probably means you just don't understand it. There are certain people that I simply will not root for, even if they are signed by my favorite team. Someone like Deion doesn't fall into that group because he's always been a team player and his teammates love him - and have throughout his career in both baseball and football. Owens' teammates hate him. He is everything that's wrong in today's sporting world. I can not root for him. There is nothing juvenile about it. Maybe you are searching for another word.

If one player doesn't make the team then why on earth would you not root for a team that you like based on them signing one player. I could understand if he was convicted of some crime that went against your moral values or something, but he can easily be compared to Key and his attitude. I think this is just a knee jerk reaction from a fan who will come to his sensed later on.

[Seven]

Some folks have no self-respect, and those are the guys screaming for us to go out and sign TO...



Great statement. It is also the folks who have thrived on the mess TO has started in Philly, hoping upon hope it brings the team to it's demise. Yet, to my surprise, they want him here.

It truly isn't a piece of laundry to most, myself included. The star incident should have a very reverberating effect on all who witnessed it. The star is the Dallas Cowboys. This was his PG-14 version of dropping his pants on national television. TO found a way to tell us all "kiss my arse". For those that want him here.....pucker up and bring the chapstick 'cause you'll be needing it.

Someone posted that TO is all that is wrong about sports. I could not agree more.

[Compacity]

T.O. would be a big plus in Dallas... when he gets here and start getting touchdowns, fans going to forget what happen with T.O. in the past..

[HardHittin'Witten]

my money is on the Broncos.

[CrazyMonster]

Sign him up! Although I think he ends up w/ Jax

[JDSmith]

If one player doesn't make the team then why on earth would you not root for a team that you like based on them signing one player. I could understand if he was convicted of some crime that went against your moral values or something, but he can easily be compared to Key and his attitude. I think this is just a knee jerk reaction from a fan who will come to his sensed later on.

He would destroy the team concept. He has undermined whatever team he's been on, and has created discord and strife for everyone. For all his talent, two seperate teams couldn't wait to get rid of him. The scary thing is, he's gotten worse. At least the Niners were able to trade him, the Eagles got to the point midseason that they have to ask him to stay home. And it's not the coaching staff who wants him to stay home, as Keyshawn's situation in TB was (where he was feuding with one person, Gruden). It's the entire team, coaching staff and ownership. He's begging to come back and they want nothing to do with him, to the point that they'll pay him his full salary to sit home. I won't watch him destroy the team, I'd rather just do something else with my Sundays. Luckily, he's not coming here. Parcells is not a stupid man, and he'd have to be a complete idiot to bring in the one guy virtually guaranteed to undo everything he's built while here. We have a team of high character guys who will do anything asked to win together. TO represents exactly the opposite of the guys Parcells has been so careful to draft and sign. He doesn't care about winning, he only cares about TO - he's never been about anything else. And before you go on about how great he was to play in the Superbowl, that was all about TO as well. He just wanted to put himself on the biggest stage, and make himself the center of the universe. Even after they lost the game, instead of being upset or angry all TO could talk about was the fact that he came back when nobody said he could. It's as if he didn't even know they lost, he was so busy talking about himself that he probably didn't notice the score. If he was on the team I wouldn't watch. It's not a knee jerk reaction, I don't do that. Anyone here who's read my posts for years knows I'm not one of the over-reactionary crowd. But I can't bring myself to root for Owens and never will, not in any capacity. Whether the people here think I'm lying about it, or deluded, or that it makes me something less than a true fan is irrelevent to me.

[joseephuss]

T.O. would be a big plus in Dallas... when he gets here and start getting touchdowns, fans going to forget what happen with T.O. in the past..

Wait long enough and he will then remind everyone what he did.

[Yakuza Rich]

This sign looks as if it belongs in Minnesota.

Humm............ Minnesota..............

;)

Why? There's no stripper included. :)

Rich.........

[ABQCOWBOY]

Why? There's no stripper included. :)

Rich.........


Good point Rich.

[deadrody]

your question is why you think to will become a cowboy? the answer....you're an idiot...that's why :)

no offense, but its not happening.
Ah, the stink of self-righteousness. Stinky, ain't it.

[Verdict]

I hate T.O. I dispise T.O. I have even advocated Roy Williams giving him "the business" on this board somewhere. That being said he is a dominant player with not much shelf life left. He has no more than 2 or 3 years of "prime" left.

The original poster got blasted for offering reasons why it might happen. His reasons are reasonable, if not necessarily likely.

Many thought that Keyshawn was a cancer before he came here but he has proven to be a real asset. it is possible, that Owens would be the same way. (I doubt it, but it's possible).

The one thing that leads me to think that T.O. might do OK here is I personally believe he is PURPOSEFULLY antogonizing Philly to get out due to monetary issues. Philly called his bluff, which they had the right to do (and I applaud them for it). The trouble is when you are a superstar, the superstar really holds the cards, not management, so long as the player is able to take the financial hit in the short term for jerking the team around.

T.O. is going to be a headache for most any team that picks him up, but he will undoubtably be less of a headache to that team than Philly who he is intentionally agitating.

[LaTunaNostra]

Ah, the stink of self-righteousness. Stinky, ain't it.
Yeah maybe, but even smellier is the stink of regret. Just ask Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb.

We have a corps of fine young players who are also fine young men, drafted on intelligence, leadership, and responsibility as well as ability to run and catch. Julius Jones, Jason Witten, Terence Newman, Rob Petitti, Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton, and the rest...all of them accountable individuals on which you can build a team that plays like one. Certainly they are not so impressionable that a joke like Terell Owens is going to influence them, but why even make them suffer the 'tude, the strutting, the potential for a meltdown, and even a fistfight.

Last year we rid ourselves of a young receiver with potential who was too selfish to fit in..one drafted a Cowboy...to bring in an aging egomaniac now makes little sense.

We have young stars like JJ who publically proclaim they don't mind sharing the ball with MBIII and TT, vet receivers who refuse to compete with each other for touches, defensive players the quality of Glover and Ellis and Dat who not just got with the rotation program, but are embracing it. We have LA tutoring Tucker, and Marco, Rob. We have Aaron Glenn taking Tnew under his wing.

This team is demonstrating, man to man, more unselfishness than I can remember on any team. And they aren't just paying lip service to 'team', they are living it. This didn't happen overnight - it's taken Bill and Jerry three years now to create the right mix.

It's too good a chemistry to fool with. Folks can and do change, but Owens has done nothing to merit the benefit of the doubt. I don't wanna see this guy within 500 miles of Valley Ranch...not out of self rightousness but out of love of the players we already have.

[yesfan]

Very good post, LTN

[kojak]

Just say


NO!!!!!!!!!!!!


To T.O.

[cobra]

To those who want TO on this team and those who have offered reasons why or suggest the possibility he is going to be on the team:
Could you please include your address when you make such statements about him being a Cowboy so I know where to send the anthrax?

[Yeagermeister]

Yeah maybe, but even smellier is the stink of regret. Just ask Andy Reid and Donovan McNabb.

We have a corps of fine young players who are also fine young men, drafted on intelligence, leadership, and responsibility as well as ability to run and catch. Julius Jones, Jason Witten, Terence Newman, Rob Petitti, Roy Williams, Patrick Crayton, and the rest...all of them accountable individuals on which you can build a team that plays like one. Certainly they are not so impressionable that a joke like Terell Owens is going to influence them, but why even make them suffer the 'tude, the strutting, the potential for a meltdown, and even a fistfight.

Last year we rid ourselves of a young receiver with potential who was too selfish to fit in..one drafted a Cowboy...to bring in an aging egomaniac now makes little sense.

We have young stars like JJ who publically proclaim they don't mind sharing the ball with MBIII and TT, vet receivers who refuse to compete with each other for touches, defensive players the quality of Glover and Ellis and Dat who not just got with the rotation program, but are embracing it. We have LA tutoring Tucker, and Marco, Rob. We have Aaron Glenn taking Tnew under his wing.

This team is demonstrating, man to man, more unselfishness than I can remember on any team. And they aren't just paying lip service to 'team', they are living it. This didn't happen overnight - it's taken Bill and Jerry three years now to create the right mix.

It's too good a chemistry to fool with. Folks can and do change, but Owens has done nothing to merit the benefit of the doubt. I don't wanna see this guy within 500 miles of Valley Ranch...not out of self rightousness but out of love of the players we already have.
:hammer: as usual

[Bullet22]

I guess if TO had when to camp, then said I don't want to play anymore, leaves his teammates high and dry, travel the world smoking pot, retire, get suspended, come back because he don't want to repay his signing bonus, comes back and he is accepted...give me a big mouth TO who shows up to play....

[royhitshard]

Say no to TO!!! He disrespected the star...that is enough for me.

[mr.jameswoods]

I'll be honest, if we won with TO, I wouldn't feel good about it. I don't believe in the idea that you win at any cost. I'm proud that our team isn't like the Raiders or the Eagles. I want us to stay clean. I don't think there is any way in heII that Jerry Jones would succumb to such an act. He could have made an effort to acquire Moss last year and did nothing so I hardly see why he would recruit and even bigger menace in TO.

[ZRO]

Ok, I'm NOT a TO fan, but if the Eagles are forced to cut him within the next week or so, we need to give it a serious look. At least for the rest of this year and maybe next season, NO long-term deal though.

What do you think?

[big dog cowboy]

Why would the Iggles be forced to cut TO? And NO we DO NOT want him. Please people!!!

[KWMIKE]

I would like to add one point. BP loves players that have their backs to the wall. That was his comment when he talked about drafting Clarrett. TO has his back to the wall. The media was saying the same things a about K Johnson before we picked him up and now he is a model player. I believe he is worth the risk.

[Silverstar]

Peter King thinks the Cowboys will sign him next year too.

I'm not a fan of King, but him saying it still scares me anyway.


I just don't want T.O. in a Cowboy uniform.

[Galian Beast]

I'll post the positives and the negatives.

On the plus side, having Keyshawn, Terry, and Terrell would probably create the best offense in the nfl in addition to what would probably be the best defense in the nfl next year.

On the negative side it would simply be stupid. We have a really good amount of chemistry building up, and we don't want trouble makers in our locker room at this point.

The difference with Keyshawn and Terry and Terrell is that Key and terry were Parcells players, and he had previous relationships with both players. He has no relationship with Owens. And the only relationship owens has with the cowboys is disrespect, and probably bitterness between himself and Roy Williams.

[Galian Beast]

Another funny note is that when we got Keyshawn, many people were angry about it.

I was all for getting Keyshawn, but quite frankly I don't want Terrell. If somehow Jones felt we needed him, and signed him. I'd root for him, cheer for him. And expect the best offense in the nfl. I'd have no problem with it, until things became ugly.

[yennor24]

The eagles are not going to let T.O. go to another team this year. They will shelf him and then cut him in the offseason....And I am all for picking up T.O. with strict contract details. So if he acts up just cut him. The man has 3-4 good dominate years left in him. And if any coach can handle him I think Parcells can. I think wide out is the one position if football that you can be selfish, Irvin was, so was Rice, So is Moss hell all the great ones are. Now if he has a good contract that he likes and he still acts a *** then by all means cut him. The problem with sports is the fans (us) try to put our real life into a sports players life...We talk about money, but it's not ours...We talk about how they should act, but none of us Run head on into a 250 pound man every sunday.I'm 6-3 190lbs and there is no way I would get on the field and do that every sunday....Now, I will bust you up in B-Ball. But from what im hearing on the board your basically saying ....No, I dont want the most dominante wide out in the league. Look, he has no public problem, drugs, police etc. Let Big Bill handle the field and let Jerry handle the money and lets sit back and go to 2-3 Super bowls. with our Defense and JJ and T.O and Glenn. Shoot, where do I sign up??????????

[Galian Beast]

You mean like Parcells could handle Antonio Bryant?

I think there is an upside to having T.O. and there is a downside.

Who knows how things would turn out though.

I think Philly asked for the trouble they got with T.O. and I don't think he really came into Philly saying... "you know what, I'm going to tear this team apart from within."

That said, there really isn't any space for him here. You don't even see Peerless Price getting playing time and he is already here.

[Wolverine]

Just think. If T.O becomes a Cowboy I might even get ridda my Zimmer village idiot sig.

Oh and HeavyHitta you dont know anything about football. You really dont.

[BadKarma]

I'm not a big fan of T.O. but how soon we forget the amount of effort he took to quickly rehabilitate so he would be able to help his team in the Superbowl. Even after being advised there was potential for re-injury which could have jeopardized his career, he was willing to take that chance. Pretty gutsy.

[Fletch]

I'm not a big fan of T.O. but how soon we forget the amount of effort he took to quickly rehabilitate so he would be able to help his team in the Superbowl. Even after being advised there was potential for re-injury which could have jeopardized his career, he was willing to take that chance. Pretty gutsy.

SCREW T.O.!!!!

[dontpush]

Hell No Fool

[JDSmith]

I'm not a big fan of T.O. but how soon we forget the amount of effort he took to quickly rehabilitate so he would be able to help his team in the Superbowl. Even after being advised there was potential for re-injury which could have jeopardized his career, he was willing to take that chance. Pretty gutsy.

Go back and listen to some of the clips after the game was over, or read some of the quotes. TO didn't give a rat's *** about his 'team' - he wanted to play on the biggest stage and prove to the world that he could get ready for the game when everyone thought he couldn't. He didn't even seem to notice that they lost, all he could do was talk about how great he was to have come back and played, and how wrong all the doubters were. I found it pretty comical at the time because most people didn't even seem to notice that after the game all TO talked about was TO - as usual.

[Trophy#6]

Laughing at some of you fairweathers..

Some people that sat through Vinny OldVerde for an entire season would hightale it and run if we were to sign a player who very well could (No, hell, would) propell us to the next level.

Here through the shiat and now you're claiming it smells?

I'd seriously take stock if I were some of you. Because if that is the case, then some of you sure are wasting alot of your lives here now talking aboiut a team you'd flee from at the first sign of something you didn't like.

Betting alot of you weren't even here before Bill became coach and don't really have a team.

The only disappointment I could ever have in this team is sitting and continuing to listen to some of you so-called fans. Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING could ever make me stop being a fan, period. You don't believe that, then that is sign #2 that you are not a real fan. Cause anybody who bleeds silver, bleeds silver for their whole life and know that!

I think Campo is waiting in Cleveland to sign a few of you..

[ThEpLyMaKeR88]

Does anyone remember during the draft when parcells said that he's to old to be running around with players who have trouble off the field so why would he bring in TO. plus the reason why Keyshawn was brought here even though of his trouble is that parcells is the one who drafted him and is one of the guys that can keep him inorder

[TX Cowboy]

Laughing at some of you fairweathers..

Some people that sat through Vinny OldVerde for an entire season would hightale it and run if we were to sign a player who very well could (No, hell, would) propell us to the next level.

Here through the shiat and now you're claiming it smells?

I'd seriously take stock if I were some of you. Because if that is the case, then some of you sure are wasting alot of your lives here now talking aboiut a team you'd flee from at the first sign of something you didn't like.

Betting alot of you weren't even here before Bill became coach and don't really have a team.

The only disappointment I could ever have in this team is sitting and continuing to listen to some of you so-called fans. Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING could ever make me stop being a fan, period. You don't believe that, then that is sign #2 that you are not a real fan. Cause anybody who bleeds silver, bleeds silver for their whole life and know that!

I think Campo is waiting in Cleveland to sign a few of you..

I agree it makes me sick to see so many who are all ready waiting to jump
ship, like the many fairweather frauds did when Landry was fired by Jerry
Jones.

[TX Cowboy]

The fact is Bill Parcells is the only head coach I can think of..that can set T.O. on the straight and narrow path, now wether you like Owens or not is not a matter of concern

He shows up wearing a Dallas uniform either this year or next year, I'll still be as
die hard just like I've been doing all along..and I'll support the team because this
is about winning and if T.O. can agree that his goal is to win

Then I say by all means lets get T.O. and start winning some more Lombardi titles