Redskins: How does it feel?

[The30YardSlant]

How does it feel to have a game completely won, only to have your heart ripped out and lose in the closing seconds?

Suck it Washington :)

[JohnsKey19]

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[BrAinPaiNt]

How does it feel to have a game completely won, only to have your heart ripped out and lose in the closing seconds?

Suck it Washington :)


Do we really need to ask...seeing as it has happened to the Cowboys on a few occasions this year. :(

[SweCowboy]

Hey they should look at it from the bright side. At least Art and company had no problems keeping from cheering today...

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

I dont know...you should be the expert of how it feels. Not us...this is a new experience for me...and it sucks.

[zrinkill]

Yup .... you guys usually win by a miracle ......... or get blown out :laugh1:

[The30YardSlant]

I dont know...you should be the expert of how it feels. Not us...this is a new experience for me...and it sucks.

:lmao2: :lmao: :lmao2: :lmao:

God I hate Washington

[Hoov]

Actually its not nearly the same thing. Washington was losing the whole first half, the second half was back and forth

[followthestar]

first it was the giants game - i was hoarse from screaming and my hand hurt from banging on the bar. then i switched venues to watch the redskins game, and my voice is totally gone and i had to start using the other hand to pound on the table!!! sweetness, oh glorious day - to see our rivals fall!!! bite me, Gibbs & Co...

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Yup .... you guys usually win by a miracle ......... or get blown out :laugh1:

Sean Taylor, and Griffin was a big factor of this loss.

By the way that little laughing thing is the most annoying thing i have ever seen.

[Silverstar]

Do we really need to ask...seeing as it has happened to the Cowboys on a few occasions this year. :(

Yeah, but the Cowboys can blame the first half on Bledsoe learning the offense and the new 3-4 defense learning to play together.

The Deadskins had Gibbs, Brunell, Portis, a decent OL and a solid defense last year. Plus, they have added new weapons like Moss...so no excuses.

We don't have any excuses either after playing 8 games IMO.


It's time to reclaim our throne!

:starspin

[The30YardSlant]

Sean Taylor, and Griffin was a big factor of this loss.

By the way that little laughing thing is the most annoying thing i have ever seen.

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

I hate to break this to you, but no one outside of this division could tell you that Griffin started for Washington

And Taylor is a liability, both on and off the field

[Hostile]

Sean Taylor, and Griffin was a big factor of this loss.

By the way that little laughing thing is the most annoying thing i have ever seen.:laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laug h1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:

[TwentyOne]

Yup .... you guys usually win by a miracle ......... or get blown out :laugh1:

That was a great one!

Love it!!!

[The30YardSlant]

LMAO, bubba at ES is one sad little man, even took the time to make this to prove Alstott was down:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/af3e00d0.jpg

[Cbz40]

:laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::l augh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:



May I join you?


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[Boy's fan in Giant land]

I gotta tell ya', I watched the entire game. Loved the beginning, but it was clear by halftime that the momentum had begun to swing in favor of the Foreskins. Beginning of the 3rd qtr., Cadillac looked like a beat up 40 year old Volkswagon coughing up the ball on Tampa's first posession. DAYUM!!

But Simms kept bringing 'em back. When they gave it up on downs with less than 2 minutes to go & the skins still in the lead, I was SERIOUSLY pissed & changed channels. So I'm watching 'Red zone' & I suddenly see Tampa's down by 1 pt. with like 56 seconds to go. I'm frantically trying to get back to catch the end of the game & now the Buc's are up by a point which they manage to hold onto & win the game. Gotta friggin' love it man.

What a GREAT day for football today was. Both Washington & the Giants lost. If we win tomorrow, we'll be in sole posession of 1st place in our division due to our win over the G-men. This makes tomorrows game even more important than it already was.

I tell you what though. When we play the foreskins again, we had better game plan for Ladell Betts. This guy impressed the heck out of me today.

[Jammer]

I dont know...you should be the expert of how it feels. Not us...this is a new experience for me...and it sucks.
You must be a very new Redskin fan then... :lmao2:

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

:laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1: :laugh1:

I hate to break this to you, but no one outside of this division could tell you that Griffin started for Washington

And Taylor is a liability, both on and off the field

Because he is a DT...not many people know about that position. Doesn't get very many sacks but he gets good pressure.

and if Sean played for Dallas you wouldn't be saying this garbage.

[Billy Bullocks]

I dont know...you should be the expert of how it feels. Not us...this is a new experience for me...and it sucks.

I'd agree with you if we didn't do it to you guys last year.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

You must be a very new Redskin fan then... :lmao2:

I was talking about this season..we normally win close games but not today.

[Billy Bullocks]

Because he is a DT...not many people know about that position. Doesn't get very many sacks but he gets good pressure.

and if Sean played for Dallas you wouldn't be saying this garbage.

I dunno, I give Kris Jenkins props, Corey Simon gets props, you just gotta be good. Most peopleknow about that position actually

[2much2soon]

Sean Taylor, and Griffin was a big factor of this loss.

By the way that little laughing thing is the most annoying thing i have ever seen.


Wow, I thought the refs cost the 'skins the game? :laugh1: :laugh1:

[The30YardSlant]

Because he is a DT...not many people know about that position. Doesn't get very many sacks but he gets good pressure.

and if Sean played for Dallas you wouldn't be saying this garbage.

Maybe not, but Patrick Crayton would:

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/sports/cowboyswinbig.jpg

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Wow, I thought the refs cost the 'skins the game? :laugh1: :laugh1:

They were a factor, but with us turning the ball over like we did in the first quarter we didn't deserve to win. I'd be nervous if they won thinking they can turn the ball over 4 times.

[zrinkill]

He should have done one where they showed the kick returner for a touchdown stepped out of bounds.

Skin fans are such hypocrites.



LMAO, bubba at ES is one sad little man, even took the time to make this to prove Alstott was down:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/af3e00d0.jpg

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Maybe not, but Patrick Crayton would:

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/sports/cowboyswinbig.jpg

Dont forget the hit he put on him to seal the game. Is that like the only catch he got all day?

A big problem with this divsion is their performence away from home.

[MichaelWinicki]

How does it feel to have a game completely won, only to have your heart ripped out and lose in the closing seconds?

Suck it Washington :)


ROFLAO!

I like it!

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

He should have done one where they showed the kick returner for a touchdown stepped out of bounds.

Skin fans are such hypocrites.

Or maybe he should have done the first quarter 'catch'.

[Tio]

By the way that little laughing thing is the most annoying thing i have ever seen.Too bad noone cares huh?

[zrinkill]

Or maybe he should have done the first quarter 'catch'.

So if the refs "messed up" both ways ....how can you skin fans still complain?

[Billy Bullocks]

Dont forget the hit he put on him to seal the game. Is that like the only catch he got all day?

A big problem with this divsion is their performence away from home.

Enjoy your poor man's Roy Williams

[big dog cowboy]

Sean Taylor, and Griffin was a big factor of this loss.

By the way that little laughing thing is the most annoying thing i have ever seen.
One word for ya...........OWNED. In a few weeks you will know what I mean.

[MichaelWinicki]

This is what parity is all about. Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory.

[jem88]

Maybe not, but Patrick Crayton would:

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/sports/cowboyswinbig.jpg Good point. Unfortunately, Santana Moss could make the same one to Roy Williams.

We must win tomorrow. It will be a glorious thing indeed if we take sole posession of first place.

[MichaelWinicki]

The Redskins should have made sure it didn't come down to a ref's decision. That's the ultimate mistake.

[2much2soon]

Dont forget the hit he put on him to seal the game. Is that like the only catch he got all day?

A big problem with this divsion is their performence away from home.

I can't remember for sure but I think he had several catches. Whatever the case, it wasn't a bad performance for a converted college QB playing his first year as a WR.

I'll stop being a smart-aleck and ask a serious question; Aren't you concerned about the 'skins disappearing defense the last two games? They have given up what, 72 points in those games, and they had Taylor for one of them.
And for the record I have to admit Taylor is a fantastic player, even if he is a 'skin...

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

I can't remember for sure but I think he had several catches. Whatever the case, it wasn't a bad performance for a converted college QB playing his first year as a WR.

I'll stop being a smart-aleck and ask a serious question; Aren't you concerned about the 'skins disappearing defense the last two games? They have given up what, 72 points in those games, and they had Taylor for one of them.
And for the record I have to admit Taylor is a fantastic player, even if he is a 'skin...

Our D is not playing well, and we were not overrated last year but this year i think we are. Letting Antonio Pierce go was the biggest mistake we made this offseason.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

So if the refs "messed up" both ways ....how can you skin fans still complain?

I'm not saying they blew the game for us, but in most of the games we play the refs are doing horrible playcalling for each teams....and it's sickening.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

The Redskins should have made sure it didn't come down to a ref's decision. That's the ultimate mistake.

I agree, Gibbs got too conservative.

[calico]

the skins have felt it for years...nothing new today.

[Billy Bullocks]

Hmm, maybe the guy actually has half a brain. Pierce was vital for you guys. I'd also say your offseason moves weren't the most intelligent either. With Walt Harris playing the way he is, and Rogers not even looking worthy of a starting job, dontcha wish ya had Fred Smoot?

Don't even get me started on how moronic your draft was. Merriman was there, Ware was there, in fact there was alot of players who probably could have helped you guys sitting there, and you guys opt to trade next years draft, to take a QB who many had rated as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. When you're a team coming of a 6-10 record, it's usually not a good sign when both of your 1st rounders don't contribute

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Hmm, maybe the guy actually has half a brain. Pierce was vital for you guys. I'd also say your offseason moves weren't the most intelligent either. With Walt Harris playing the way he is, and Rogers not even looking worthy of a starting job, dontcha wish ya had Fred Smoot?

Don't even get me started on how moronic your draft was. Merriman was there, Ware was there, in fact there was alot of players who probably could have helped you guys sitting there, and you guys opt to trade next years draft, to take a QB who many had rated as a 2nd or 3rd rounder. When you're a team coming of a 6-10 record, it's usually not a good sign when both of your 1st rounders don't contribute

Okay...first off, many Redksins are high on Carlos Rogers. He hasn't started yet and is a rookie corner. With his 20 something tackles he has 2 FF. Smoot was only good in our system, outside of our organization he is being exposed.

What pissed me off is when we passed on Chris Canty, and went with a FB instead when we already have Mike Sellers.

[stilltheguru]

rogers is weak, i pray for the day yall start him instead of walt. hes even WORSE!

[The30YardSlant]

2/3 of the world is covered in water, the other 1/3 is covered by Walt Harris :lmao2:

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

rogers is weak, i pray for the day yall start him instead of walt. hes even WORSE!

Thats not possible.

[The30YardSlant]

Thats not possible.

Oh yes, yes it is:

http://www.cowboycards.com/Players/PHunter/02Bowman.jpg

[stilltheguru]

heres to the raiders beating the skins by 20:D

[dbair1967]

He should have done one where they showed the kick returner for a touchdown stepped out of bounds.

Skin fans are such hypocrites.

maybe they show the pic of Jansen yanking Ellis on that first td, only to have the officials ignore it...or maybe they should try to show us a pic of Flozelle Adams holding on what should have been the game clinching first down for us...of course they wont be able to produce that pic, because it didnt happen

David

[Mansta54]

I dont know...you should be the expert of how it feels. Not us...this is a new experience for me...and it sucks.


This isn't new to you... Crayton last year in Dallas with 30 sec. to go gets TD to beat that . Oh, have you forgotten already...

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Oh yes, yes it is:

http://www.cowboycards.com/Players/PHunter/02Bowman.jpg

lol...was he a starter? I'm just saying Rogers can tackle, Walt cant tackle or cover.

And Rogers is a rookie corner with i think 2 starts.

[Billy Bullocks]

Okay...first off, many Redksins are high on Carlos Rogers. He hasn't started yet and is a rookie corner. With his 20 something tackles he has 2 FF. Smoot was only good in our system, outside of our organization he is being exposed.

What pissed me off is when we passed on Chris Canty, and went with a FB instead when we already have Mike Sellers.

Yes, I was a bit confused why you would draft 2 FB's in one draft, especially with the fullback is going the way of the Duckbilled Platapuss in todays NFL.

Again, as high as you are on Rogers, if he was really that good, and I'm sorry, when you are piced 9th overall, the expectation is that you are going to contribute immediately, why doesn't he start. Harris has looked average in coverage, but I think he has this game confused with Flag Football, because his attempts to tackle opposing players are humerous.

Yes, I've read the crying over at ES about Canty. The best part, he plays inyour guys backyard, and you choose Manuel White 12 picks before we grab him. Like you saidm you've got Sellers. Cooley is almost and H-Back. Betts is a good back up...maybe it's because of how much pressure Philip Daniels gets...another great idea, keep your best pass rusher (Arrington) on the sideline through the first half of the season, and from what I've seen, on alot of 3rd downs.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

This isn't new to you... Crayton last year in Dallas with 30 sec. to go gets TD to beat that . Oh, have you forgotten already...

No, but this is a different season.

[dallasfan]

LMAO, bubba at ES is one sad little man, even took the time to make this to prove Alstott was down:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/af3e00d0.jpg

He's actually on top of someone there.

[Billy Bullocks]

There's definately not enough concluseive evidence to prove anything. You can't overturn the call based on the replay. It looked to me he got in.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Yes, I was a bit confused why you would draft 2 FB's in one draft, especially with the fullback is going the way of the Duckbilled Platapuss in todays NFL.

Again, as high as you are on Rogers, if he was really that good, and I'm sorry, when you are piced 9th overall, the expectation is that you are going to contribute immediately, why doesn't he start. Harris has looked average in coverage, but I think he has this game confused with Flag Football, because his attempts to tackle opposing players are humerous.

Yes, I've read the crying over at ES about Canty. The best part, he plays inyour guys backyard, and you choose Manuel White 12 picks before we grab him. Like you saidm you've got Sellers. Cooley is almost and H-Back. Betts is a good back up...maybe it's because of how much pressure Philip Daniels gets...another great idea, keep your best pass rusher (Arrington) on the sideline through the first half of the season, and from what I've seen, on alot of 3rd downs.

We didn't give ST the nod until week 7 last year i believe. He was a much more hyped player coming out of the draft last year than Rogers was this year. Plus our D coordinator doesn't like to start DB's too soon.

I have a feeling in next years draft we are either gonna draft like 3 or 4 D-lineman or 3 Full backs...

[stilltheguru]

taylor started week 3.lol AGAINST DALLAS!



u sure your a skins fan?

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

taylor started week 3.lol AGAINST DALLAS!



u sure your a skins fan?

He didn't start...he just got some playing time.

[Rack Bauer]

Sean Taylor, and Griffin was a big factor of this loss.

By the way that little laughing thing is the most annoying thing i have ever seen.


The Bucs were missing their starting QB and #1 WR. So please, .

[dallasblue05]

I'm not saying they blew the game for us, but in most of the games we play the refs are doing horrible playcalling for each teams....and it's sickening.

CLASSIC SKINS FAN RESPONSE.......the refs my arse buddy, your team is jusst not as good as you thought it would be, funny how the guy in your screen name is one of the biggest liability on your team, lol.....

[dallasblue05]

The Bucs were missing their starting QB and #1 WR. So please, .

:laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1::l augh1::laugh1::laugh1::laugh1:

I wanted to say that so bad, lol, thank you!!!

[Billy Bullocks]

Seriously. Some of the guys at ES are saying that this defense is Super Bowl Caliber. Does a SB caliber defense give up 36 points to 2 differnet 2nd year QB's.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

The Bucs were missing their starting QB and #1 WR. So please, .

Umm...Joey Galloway is definately their #1 reciever. Micheal Clayton was not doing that good this year anyways. Sean Taylor was missed a lot more than Clayton and Griese i'm sure today. So please, STFUDCBF

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Seriously. Some of the guys at ES are saying that this defense is Super Bowl Caliber. Does a SB caliber defense give up 36 points to 2 differnet 2nd year QB's.

We dont have enough talent this year....all i've seen over at ES is thrashing of our overrated D.

[Rack Bauer]

Umm...Joey Galloway is definately their #1 reciever. Micheal Clayton was not doing that good this year anyways. Sean Taylor was missed a lot more than Clayton and Griese i'm sure today. So please, STFUDCBF



That fact that you think Galloway is their #1 WR proves how stupid you are.


Also, the fact that you think that LIABILITY of a FS was missed more then a STARTING QB further proves your idioc.


Now, GFY,T.

[stilltheguru]

whoa now wit the name calling.galloway IS their number 1.


clayton has like 10 catches the whole year.lol

[Rack Bauer]

# of catches doesn't = #1 WR.


Clayton is by far their best WR. Galloway is their most explosive.


And being that Galloway is the ONLY threat the Bucs have it makes their defense look even more pathetic.


ANd Clayton has 25 catches despite injuries. Galloway their #1? :laugh1:

[Billy Bullocks]

don't tell me Sean Taylor is more important to your defense than Brian Griese is to that offense. Griese was going to be this years Rich Gannon. Sean Taylor can be as great as he wants (and I'll admit he's a good player) but when you don't get tot eh QB, it doesn't matter who is sitting back at FS, you're in trouble.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

That fact that you think Galloway is their #1 WR proves how stupid you are.


Also, the fact that you think that LIABILITY of a FS was missed more then a STARTING QB further proves your idioc.


Now, GFY,T.

I'm shocked how dumb you are for aruguing this with me...you truly are an idiot! Galloway has been by far their best reciever this year and Clayton has underperformed...so please screw your head on straight then try to argue with me.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

don't tell me Sean Taylor is more important to your defense than Brian Griese is to that offense. Griese was going to be this years Rich Gannon. Sean Taylor can be as great as he wants (and I'll admit he's a good player) but when you don't get tot eh QB, it doesn't matter who is sitting back at FS, you're in trouble.

I think it might have showed a little bit...ST basically is the secondary. We had one of the top secondaries in the league through week 10...now that he's out look how we get exposed.

Griese was important to that Buc offense but our secondary is just too bad without Sean Taylor...makes me kind of nervous too.

[WoodysGirl]

Guys, it's not necessary to do the name calling... :cool:

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

# of catches doesn't = #1 WR.


Clayton is by far their best WR. Galloway is their most explosive.


And being that Galloway is the ONLY threat the Bucs have it makes their defense look even more pathetic.


ANd Clayton has 25 catches despite injuries. Galloway their #1? :laugh1:

Galloway has 830 yards this season...you sure dont know much.

[Rack Bauer]

I'm shocked how dumb you are for aruguing this with me...you truly are an idiot! Galloway has been by far their best reciever this year and Clayton has underperformed...so please screw your head on straight then try to argue with me.



If I'm an idiot, and you think the Skins missing a FS is bigger then the Bucs missing a QUARTERBACK, then what does that make you, Chico?


Freakin' Troll.

[Rack Bauer]

Galloway has 830 yards this season...you sure dont know much.



I may or may not "know much" but I definitely know more then you're sorry a**, Punk.


Why don't you go to your own board and cry about the officiating like the rest of the sorry a** skins fans?

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

If I'm an idiot, and you think the Skins missing a FS is bigger then the Bucs missing a QUARTERBACK, then what does that make you, Chico?


Freakin' Troll.

I'm not a troll and i haven't burned your team once. So you need to get your facts straight. Did you watch the freakin game? With as crappy as Chris Simms is he had an all-star game. I'm telling you Sean Taylor being out of this game was a bigger factor than Griese being out.

[StevenOtero]

I dont know...you should be the expert of how it feels. Not us...this is a new experience for me...and it sucks.

HAHAHAHAH... You must be like a year old then. Well at least this one has some nuts and doesn't blame it on the refs. Or do you?

[Rack Bauer]

I'm not a troll and i haven't burned your team once. So you need to get your facts straight. Did you watch the freakin game? With as crappy as Chris Simms is he had an all-star game. I'm telling you Sean Taylor being out of this game was a bigger factor than Griese being out.



Yeah I know what you're "telling me" and that's precisely what proves your idiocy.


No way in hell is an overated FS more important then a starting QB. Only a moronic Skins fan would try to make that argument.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

I may or may not "know much" but I definitely know more then you're sorry a**, Punk.


Why don't you go to your own board and cry about the officiating like the rest of the sorry a** skins fans?

I came here to talk football...seeing how much of an bag you can be is quite funny.

The thread says how do you feel now Redskin fans? So i replied.

[jackrussell]

...had the best chance to beat the Deadskins today?
http://www.winncreek.com/files/simms.jpg

Answer: BOTH!

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

HAHAHAHAH... You must be like a year old then. Well at least this one has some nuts and doesn't blame it on the refs. Or do you?

I didn't even see that Dallas game, so it didn't pain me as much as the one i just watched. Plus it's a new season.

[Trip]

Chris Simms may carve out a nice career for himself in the NFL beginning today. He can be a decent QB and I'd take him over either of the previous two Redskins QB's of the future.

Oakland, San Diego, Dallas, NY Giants, Philly, even at St. Louis may turn out to be a tough one for the Skins. They're looking like an 8-8 team to me.

[Rack Bauer]

I came here to talk football...seeing how much of an bag you can be is quite funny.

The thread says how do you feel now Redskin fans? So i replied.



I'm a cowboys fan, Genius, how the f*** do you think I feel about the Skins? :laugh1:



And my point still stands, no way is Taylor more important then Griese.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Yeah I know what you're "telling me" and that's precisely what proves your idiocy.


No way in hell is an overated FS more important then a starting QB. Only a moronic Skins fan would try to make that argument.

He gets no media attention so i do not see how he is overrated. When Sean is out there QB's dont even pass it near him unless they are WIDE open. So you think if Sean was out there instead of Pierson Preilou, that Simms would have done nearly as good? I think you are just too blind and stubburn to see the truth.

[Spurs21Cowboys22]

If I were a skins fan, just thinking about jumping offsides directly relating to losing the game would drive me nuts. I mean, at the time, it didn't seem like much. Then after the game sitting there thinking and thinking "how did we lose?!?!" Only to realize you could have gone into OT or not had 'pressure' on the final drive to win the game there, possibly making it a little easier.

But hey, a loss is a loss. A one point loss just makes the week a lot longer :)

[Rack Bauer]

He gets no media attention so i do not see how he is overrated. When Sean is out there QB's dont even pass it near him unless they are WIDE open. So you think if Sean was out there instead of Pierson Preilou, that Simms would have done nearly as good? I think you are just too blind and stubburn to see the truth.



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[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

I'm a cowboys fan, Genius, how the f*** do you think I feel about the Skins? :laugh1:



And my point still stands, no way is Taylor more important then Griese.

You hate the skins just as i despise the Cowboys. I only come here to talk football with a divsion rival. I dont come here to start fights with anyone, it was your smart little remarks that ticked me off. My point stands as well, with Taylor in the game would have been different. Still might have lost but no way do they score 36 on us...i'd say 21 is more like it.

[THEHEREAFTER]

LMAO, bubba at ES is one sad little man, even took the time to make this to prove Alstott was down:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/bubba9497/af3e00d0.jpg

Bubba @ ES is a funny man! He has an explanation for every skins loss. According to him, the skins have never really "lossed" a game. :laugh1:

[The30YardSlant]

You hate the skins just as i despise the Cowboys. I only come here to talk football with a divsion rival. I dont come here to start fights with anyone, it was your smart little remarks that ticked me off. My point stands as well, with Taylor in the game would have been different. Still might have lost but no way do they score 36 on us...i'd say 21 is more like it.

So Sean Taylor is worth 15 points?

Lawrence Taylor wasnt worth 15 points :rolleyes:

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

If I were a skins fan, just thinking about jumping offsides directly relating to losing the game would drive me nuts. I mean, at the time, it didn't seem like much. Then after the game sitting there thinking and thinking "how did we lose?!?!" Only to realize you could have gone into OT or not had 'pressure' on the final drive to win the game there, possibly making it a little easier.

But hey, a loss is a loss. A one point loss just makes the week a lot longer :)

I think everyone knows our D-line sucks, we create no pressure and got no sacks against a putrid bucs O-line.

[Rack Bauer]

You hate the skins just as i despise the Cowboys. I only come here to talk football with a divsion rival. I dont come here to start fights with anyone, it was your smart little remarks that ticked me off. My point stands as well, with Taylor in the game would have been different. Still might have lost but no way do they score 36 on us...i'd say 21 is more like it.


DIdn't Taylor play when they gave up 36 to the Giants?


And judging by your screen name I think it's obvious you have man-love for Taylor so you're gonna have a bias in the matter. I apologize if I ticked you off. But if you were looking at it w/o Bias you wouldn't blame the loss on a couple of missing players when the Bucs were missing two MORE important players.

[Billy Bullocks]

He gets no media attention so i do not see how he is overrated. When Sean is out there QB's dont even pass it near him unless they are WIDE open. So you think if Sean was out there instead of Pierson Preilou, that Simms would have done nearly as good? I think you are just too blind and stubburn to see the truth.

No, but Griese would have picked apart your defense. Simple as that. Taylor plays FS. His absence isn't the problem facing your team. If you are watching the Skins games, you will notice, there is an extreme lack of pressure put on the opposing QB. Your QB turns the ball over far too often, and that's starting to catch up with you.

As long as you keep drafting Full Backs instead of players like Chris Canty, it doesn't matter how good Sean Taylor gets, it aint gonna help him. Taylor gets a decent amount of media coverage, but Redskins fan overrated him. Cowboys fans have come to terms with the fact that Williams is average at coverage. When he's played in his proper role, he's the best at it in teh game. No Safety is as good against the run, or taking away short routes over the middle because of his hitting.

Your team has run a shotty ship for a long time, and this last draf really didn't do alot to prove you guys are really heading in the right direction. At the end of this year, WR, DE, OL, CB still may need to be addressed. Thats alot of holes to fill in one draft.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

So Sean Taylor is worth 15 points?

Lawrence Taylor wasnt worth 15 points :rolleyes:

I think those pass plays would have been covered and the QB wouldn't have looked his way.

[Rack Bauer]

I think those pass plays would have been covered and the QB wouldn't have looked his way.



One most of the big plays the Bucs got the Skins were blitzing. So that means Taylor either would of been blitzing or in man to man coverage. The guy that got beat, one on one, wasn't Taylor's replacement.

[The30YardSlant]

I think those pass plays would have been covered and the QB wouldn't have looked his way.

No QB is afraid of ST in coverage, they all HOPE to see ST one on one with thier WR because the WR will win almost everytime

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

No, but Griese would have picked apart your defense. Simple as that. Taylor plays FS. His absence isn't the problem facing your team. If you are watching the Skins games, you will notice, there is an extreme lack of pressure put on the opposing QB. Your QB turns the ball over far too often, and that's starting to catch up with you.

As long as you keep drafting Full Backs instead of players like Chris Canty, it doesn't matter how good Sean Taylor gets, it aint gonna help him. Taylor gets a decent amount of media coverage, but Redskins fan overrated him. Cowboys fans have come to terms with the fact that Williams is average at coverage. When he's played in his proper role, he's the best at it in teh game. No Safety is as good against the run, or taking away short routes over the middle because of his hitting.

Your team has run a shotty ship for a long time, and this last draf really didn't do alot to prove you guys are really heading in the right direction. At the end of this year, WR, DE, OL, CB still may need to be addressed. Thats alot of holes to fill in one draft.

I agree with everything but the O-line. What we need with the O-line is consistency. You are right, we create absolutely no pressure. Sean Taylor needs to work on his tackling...i've come to admit that. He goes for the big hit and the reciever or RB will pick up an extra 5-10 yards. We need a back up WR badly...after Moss there is a Grand Canyon dropoff.

[Billy Bullocks]

Sean Taylor isn't Deion Sanders son. He doesn't force the opposing QB to look away. And if you've watched Taylor, in the last 2 game against Dallas, he's been burned for 2 long TD plays. One by Crayton, one by Glenn. He bites too hard on PA to be considered as great as the 'Skins fan base make him out to be. The fact that you think he's worth 15 points discredits any valid argument you may have had. Also, another 2nd year QB torched you guys for 36 WITH Sean Taylor in.

Again, your D gets no pressure, and you're starting QB, despite putting up huge numbers of points sometimes, turns the ball over far too much. Good luck winning when your QB gives u the ball 4 times.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

One most of the big plays the Bucs got the Skins were blitzing. So that means Taylor either would of been blitzing or in man to man coverage. The guy that got beat, one on one, wasn't Taylor's replacement.

Actually we blitzed the corner a lot and left the safety on Galloway on a few of the long pass plays. That was a mistake...since we have no pass rush we have to blitz like 6-7 guys almost every down.

[zrinkill]

These Redskin fans have excuses after every game ...... they are the biggest crybabies in the NFL.

[Spurs21Cowboys22]

The Packers upset the Falcons on the road without their top three RBs and 3 of their top 4 WRs. I don't see why the skins should blame the loss on missing a DT and safety. But hey... maybe Sean Taylor and that DT have just that much more impact on a game than a pro bowl caliber RB and WR in Ahman and Javon, plus their backups.

Anyway, not trying to start something. I just don't like losses being blamed on injuries when clearly both the skins and bucs have their own injury problems to deal with.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Sean Taylor isn't Deion Sanders son. He doesn't force the opposing QB to look away. And if you've watched Taylor, in the last 2 game against Dallas, he's been burned for 2 long TD plays. One by Crayton, one by Glenn. He bites too hard on PA to be considered as great as the 'Skins fan base make him out to be. The fact that you think he's worth 15 points discredits any valid argument you may have had. Also, another 2nd year QB torched you guys for 36 WITH Sean Taylor in.

Again, your D gets no pressure, and you're starting QB, despite putting up huge numbers of points sometimes, turns the ball over far too much. Good luck winning when your QB gives u the ball 4 times.

Maybe not 21 because 14 of those points were caused by our turnovers. But i'm saying the long pass plays would not have been there all day like they were.

Our D is not the same without him.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

The Packers upset the Falcons on the road without their top three RBs and 3 of their top 4 WRs. I don't see why the skins should blame the loss on missing a DT and safety. But hey... maybe Sean Taylor and that DT have just that much more impact on a game than a pro bowl caliber RB and WR in Ahman and Javon, plus their backups.

Anyway, not trying to start something. I just don't like losses being blamed on injuries when clearly both the skins and bucs have their own injury problems to deal with.

Our offense gave them 14 points...we turned it over on our own 5 yard line. Also another one in our territory...Our offense might have put up okay stats but we turn the ball over too much.

[playit12]

Because he is a DT...not many people know about that position. Doesn't get very many sacks but he gets good pressure.

and if Sean played for Dallas you wouldn't be saying this garbage.

Actually he doesn't get good pressure. The Skins are horrible at pressuring the QB and it shows in their complete inability to create turnovers to anyone except Quarterbacks playing their first NFL game.

As for the Taylor comment I certainly don't agree. I can't remember a single Cowboy in recent history that is as completely lacking in intelect as Sean Taylor. His reported (7 or 9) in the wonderlic score is worse than anyone I can bring to mind on the team. I'm sure someone here can correct me if I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt it. Now don't just dismiss that score as one low stat in an otherwise gleaming combine. That is a really, really, bad stat. That's the equivalent of Benching well, doing good in the 3 cones, and then running an 8 second 40 yard dash. A sub 10 score, according to test administers, is not even qualified to work in Garbage Collection. He's a liability when on the field, and even if he wore the star I'd want him out of the league.

[Tio]

He gets no media attention so i do not see how he is overrated. When Sean is out there QB's dont even pass it near him unless they are WIDE open. So you think if Sean was out there instead of Pierson Preilou, that Simms would have done nearly as good? I think you are just too blind and stubburn to see the truth.He didn't seem so intimidating against reggie brown last week...

[Avery]

Enough with the revisionist history. It's embarrasing.

Fact: both defenses sucked today. The Skins did not deserve to win that game today. Neither did the Bucs. Problem is that someone has to win and the Bucs were the ones who did. Lucky call or not, I'm sure you could probably go to any play and make a case that it changed the momentum of the game. Maybe a holding call that wasn't caught, a PI with a flag not thrown, anything to blame the game on the refs except for the simple fact that the defense could not stop the opponent.

If any Skins fans want to play Adobe Photoshop, I suggest you find a picture of the scoreboard and replace 'Washington' under 36 and 'Tampa Bay' under 35.

[Rack Bauer]

Our offense gave them 14 points...we turned it over on our own 5 yard line. Also another one in our territory...Our offense might have put up okay stats but we turn the ball over too much.



The Bucs also turned it over at the 5. Those two plays cancel out 7 points from each side. It goes both ways.

[silverbear]

How does it feel to have a game completely won, only to have your heart ripped out and lose in the closing seconds?

Suck it Washington :)

Skins fans don't seem to be real happy this evening... seems they have issues with the refs...

Gee, THAT'S hardly ever happened before... of course, no mention of how the refs gave them a gift TD on that kickoff return by Betts, when he took like 3 steps on the sideline... not NEAR the sideline, ON the sideline... I would have sworn that was out of bounds... :D

[Skins26]

Look at the replays again buddy. His foot never crosses over the big white line....

Bad calls happen every game, that's a given. And that's not what pisses me off. It's that a bad call directly affected the outcome of the game.

But as it's been said before, it shouldn't have came down to that. If you put up 35 against the number one defense and you have a top 10 defense up against a 20 something ranked offense with an inexperienced QB, you should win the game...

[silverbear]

But as it's been said before, it shouldn't have came down to that. If you put up 35 against the number one defense and you have a top 10 defense up against a 20 something ranked offense with an inexperienced QB, you should win the game...

Seems your top 10 defense ain't really all that... seems this is the second time in 3 games they've given up 36... seems they're allowing an average of 24.7 points per game over their last six games (after opening the season 3-0, and allowing just half that many points)...

A big reason for that, of course, is the utter lack of anything resembling a pass rush... 14 sacks in 9 games projects out to 25 sacks for the entire season... the Boys are currently on pace for 48...

In addition, the highly regarded run defense, which led the league allowing 3.1 yards per carry last year, is now 16th in the league, allowing 4.1 ypc... they're also tied for 24th in the NFL with 11 rushing TDs allowed... at that pace, they'll give up 20 rushing TDs this year... the Cowboys have allowed 2 rushing TDs this year, on pace to allow 4...

Bottom line, the way they're playing right now, they stand very little chance of being a top 10 defense at season's end...

[Skins26]

Astounding!
Your grasp of the obvious is simply amazing silverbear...

[silverbear]

Astounding!
Your grasp of the obvious is simply amazing silverbear...

Would that your ability to grasp the point was equally amazing...

You were the one talking about how good that "top 10" defense is, if you recognized their ranking was a sham why did you go down that road??

[Skins26]

You were the one talking about how good that "top 10" defense is....
Ummm....when? Not once did I talk about how good our defense was. Thanks for playing though.

I simply stated that we have (or had) a top 10 defense and that it was going up against a 20 something ranked offense. We should have had some kind of advantage against such a inferior offense.

[riggo]

How does it feel to have a game completely won, only to have your heart ripped out and lose in the closing seconds?

Suck it Washington :)

huh? um- dallas should know. your point?

[riggo]

Maybe not, but Patrick Crayton would:

http://media.hamptonroads.com/images/sports/cowboyswinbig.jpg

good one.

sincerely,

last year

btw- got any pics of crayton getting blasted by taylor...um...THIS year? i'd like to see that. or better yet- roy getting burned twice by moss. put em up for me. and get me a sammich'.

scoreboard.

[BigDFan5]

good one.

sincerely,

last year

btw- got any pics of crayton getting blasted by taylor...um...THIS year? i'd like to see that. or better yet- roy getting burned twice by moss. put em up for me. and get me a sammich'.

scoreboard.


Hey look everyone a troll!!! ^^^

[Tio]

scoreboard.Division standings.

Hope your still here after our 2nd meeting, but considering your just a troll, I doubt it.

14 out of 16 is nothing to be ashamed of.

[silverbear]

Ummm....when? Not once did I talk about how good our defense was. Thanks for playing though.

I simply stated that we have (or had) a top 10 defense

Which is a de facto claim that said defense is good...

And of course, that defense got torched by an eminently mediocre (at best) offense...

[Cbz40]

Someone left the door open

[SkinsandTerps]

HH, your obsession with Redskins hate is just unfounded.

We are talking current, Redskins are 1-0
We are talking playoffs, 2-0
Streak ? Well, the Redskins were pitiful. But the streak has been broken with a win.


We are talking smack ? Well we both have plenty of options.

I told you guys weeks ago that the Redskins D was not as good as people claimed it to be.

I told you guys that this would be one of those old school seasons, where every NFCE team beats up on each other.

[riggo]

Division standings.

right. a head to head loss means nothing. good one.

Hope your still here after our 2nd meeting, but considering your just a troll, I doubt it.

14 out of 16 is nothing to be ashamed of.

good luck beating the skins at home...especially after needing a pass by mcnabb complete with bows and a christmas card to beat those 'scary' eagles.

will you be here? we shall see.

[Tio]

right. a head to head loss means nothing. good one.



good luck beating the skins at home...especially after needing a pass by mcnabb complete with bows and a christmas card to beat those 'scary' eagles.

will you be here? we shall see.The funny thing is, where were you before your fluke win against us? You just a troll who doesn't have enough confidence in his team to smack it up in the game week. Hope your ready to fall out of the division race soon.

[riggo]

The funny thing is, where were you before your fluke win against us? You just a troll who doesn't have enough confidence in his team to smack it up in the game week. Hope your ready to fall out of the division race soon.

i post regularly in an NFL forum with cowboys fans. didnt see you there either. i guess its safer to stay in your home. i didn't even know about this board til after that game, but if it makes you feel better thinking i was avoiding you scary cowboy fans, carry on.

check my first post and you'll see why i posted initially. it's actually related to your 'fluke win' comment. and i didnt even gloat.

funny- the skins game was a 'fluke' win. what do cowboy fans here call your win over the eagles? 'gutsy'?