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50cent
11-17-2005, 12:14 PM
1 Houston - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
2 Tennessee - Jonathan Scott, OT, Texas
3 New York Jets - Reggie Bush, RB, USC
4 Arizona - Matt Leinart , QB, USC
5 San Francisco - AJ Hawk, LB, Ohio State
6 Baltimore - Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn
7 New Orleans - Jimmy Williams, CB/S, Virginia Tech
8 Green Bay - DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
9 Miami - Vince Young, QB, Texas
10 Cleveland - Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
11 Oakland - Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
12 St. Louis - Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
13 Buffalo - Max Jean-Gilles, G/T, Georgia
14 Detroit - Joe Thomas, OT, Wisconsin
15 Minnesota - Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
16 Philadelphia - Lendale White, RB, USC
17 Kansas City - Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
18 New England - Bobby Carpenter, LB/DE, Ohio State
19 Denver (from Washington) - Mario Williams, DE/DT, NC State
20 San Diego - Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State
21 Jacksonville - Charles Gordon, CB, Kansas
22 Chicago - Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
23 Tampa Bay - DeMeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama
24 New York Giants - Eric Winston, OT, Miami
25 Atlanta - Justin Blalock, OT, Texas
26 Dallas - Brady Quinn, QB, Notre Dame
27 Seattle - Haloti Ngata, DT, Oregon
28 Cincinnati - Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
29 Pittsburgh - Davin Joseph, G/T, Oklahoma
30 Denver - Drew Stanton, QB, Michigan State
31 Carolina - Rodrique Wright, DT, Texas
32 Indianapolis - Jeremy Trueblood, OT, Boston College
1 Houston - Jesse Mahelona, DT, Tennessee
2 Tennessee - Ernie Sims, OLB, Florida State
3 New York Jets - Greg Eslinger, C, Minnesota
4 Arizona - Laron Landry, FS, LSU
5 San Francisco - Jason Allen, CB/FS, Tennessee
6 Baltimore - Devin Hester, CB, Miami
7 New Orleans - Daryn Colledge, OT, Boise State
8 Green Bay - Gabe Watson, DT, Michigan
9 Miami - AJ Nicholson, OLB, Florida State
10 Cleveland - Ahmad Brooks, ILB, Virginia
11 Oakland - Darnell Bing, SS, USC
12 St. Louis - Tye Hill, CB, Clemson
13 Buffalo - DeMario Minter, CB, Georgia
14 Detroit - Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
15 Minnesota - Andrew Whitworth, OT, LSU
16 Philadelphia - Hank Baskett, WR, New Mexico
17 Kansas City - Bernard Pollard, SS, Purdue
18 New England - Will Blackmon, CB, Boston College
19 Washington - Ray Edwards, DE, Purdue
20 San Diego - Alan Zemaitis, CB/FS, Penn State
21 Jacksonville - Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
22 Chicago - Elvis Dumervil, DE/OLB, Louisville
23 Tampa Bay - Daryl Tapp, DE, Virginia Tech
24 New York Giants - Greg Blue, FS, Georgia
25 Atlanta - Ashton Youboty, CB, Ohio State
26 Dallas - Jarrett Hicks, WR, Texas Tech
27 Seattle - Mike Hass, WR, Oregon State
28 Cincinnati - Winston Justice, OT, USC
29 Pittsburgh - Jason Avant, WR, Michigan
30 Denver - Nick Mangold, C, Ohio State
31 Carolina - Dominique Byrd, TE, USC
32 Indianapolis - Brian Leonard, FB, Rutgers

AbeBeta
11-17-2005, 12:18 PM
Wow, that's a great draft for us. Only one thing -- how does Brady Quinn -- A legit top 10 talent get all the way down to us?

50cent
11-17-2005, 12:18 PM
No way Brooks falls to the second tho.

50cent
11-17-2005, 12:18 PM
Wow, that's a great draft for us. Only one thing -- how does Brady Quinn -- A legit top 10 talent get all the way down to us?All depends on who really needs a QB.

bobtheflob
11-17-2005, 12:19 PM
I'd be surprised if he declared for the draft this year but I'd sure be happy if we did somehow get him.

Yeagermeister
11-17-2005, 12:21 PM
DeAngelo to GB :(

I don't want to have to root for them :(

tiller77
11-17-2005, 12:34 PM
ESPN reported the other day that Brady Quinn was staying in school for his senior year although that could change after the season

ABQCOWBOY
11-17-2005, 12:39 PM
I'd wet myself if that happened and I don't even like Hicks all that much.

Portland Fanatic
11-17-2005, 12:39 PM
ESPN reported the other day that Brady Quinn was staying in school for his senior year although that could change after the season

If he stays...he hs the potential to put up the same type of number...would make him a top 3 pic...why come out this year?

cobra
11-17-2005, 12:43 PM
Vince Young and Ricky together in Miami. How sweet.


(That being said, I find draft talk during the season to be overwhelming. That kind of thing is what is suppose to get us throught he off-season. If we start now, won't we be burned out on it by draft time?)

doomsday_II
11-17-2005, 12:44 PM
Hicks isn't even the best reciever on Tech. Filiona(?) is almost as tall at 6-2 but much faster and showed good hands this year.

Danny White
11-17-2005, 12:52 PM
Doesn't Devin Hester still have to play one more year? I thought he was a true Sophomore.

Dayton Cowboy
11-17-2005, 12:59 PM
I'm not so certain that neither the Titans or Jets pass on Leinart. Norm Chow as co-ordinator at TN.. and McNair sooner than later is going to retire. I question if Volek is truly a starter(I'm sure I'll get some feedback on this).. The Jets don't really know about Pennington. I'm sure that Leinart would rather go to Zona with their stable of receivers if it came down to the Jets, Titans or Cards.

BrAinPaiNt
11-17-2005, 01:00 PM
Vince Young and Ricky together in Miami. How sweet.


(That being said, I find draft talk during the season to be overwhelming. That kind of thing is what is suppose to get us throught he off-season. If we start now, won't we be burned out on it by draft time?)


Agreed....besides the draft gurus change so much from the end of the college bowl game season to the draft....just imagine the changes before the college regular season and the draft would be.

Rush 2112
11-17-2005, 01:01 PM
Ahmad Brooks has only played in 4-5 games. Has 16 tackles and 1 sack, knee surgery, and character concerns.

Why wouldn't he fall to 2 or lower?

CrazyCowboy
11-17-2005, 01:01 PM
Wow, that's a great draft for us. Only one thing -- how does Brady Quinn -- A legit top 10 talent get all the way down to us?

Because it is a Dallas Cowboy fan doing the drafting.........and nothing wrong with that......since it is fantasy this time of year.

Yeagermeister
11-17-2005, 01:02 PM
Doesn't Devin Hester still have to play one more year? I thought he was a true Sophomore.
He could come out if his HS graduating class has been out 3 yrs.

Verdict
11-17-2005, 01:09 PM
I would REALLY like to see us trade out of the first round this year and down at least once with one of our second rounders (ours plus the trade down pick) and really load up with picks to acquire Adrian Peterson the following year, assuming he's healthy. He might be the next L. Tomlinson.

RW Hitman
11-17-2005, 01:20 PM
first rounder, i see a wr, second round i see an OT

biggest needs in that order anyways (well actually our biggest need is OT, but I never believe in using our first pick on an olineman)

EDIT: actually, your right, we do need to groom a QB, but I think we may need to trade up to get one worth getting... OT second pick, wherever that may be

Billy Bullocks
11-17-2005, 01:24 PM
If Ngata is sitting there, I'd take a serious look at him. The guy is a beast and would be a great player for years to come.

I think going into next years draft we will really have the luxuary to take the BPA. So that's probably what we would base it on. I also think alot of it has to do with teh progress Romo/Henson are making in practice.

Big Country
11-17-2005, 01:32 PM
That draft would be cool, but that mock will change at least a bazillion times before 4/2006...

I don't see how DT Ngata would drop that far... I'd rather not pass on him... Quinn would be an absolute highway robbery if he fell that far also.

I'm not crazy hard up for a WR in #2 either... we need to start stacking the OL next draft.

cowboys#1
11-17-2005, 01:49 PM
49ers take lendale white. david carr sucks texans take leinhart

Billy Bullocks
11-17-2005, 01:59 PM
Even if we draft players who dont start this year, Allen and Rivera aren't getting any younger. Johnson sure hasn't convinced me that he is good enough to really hold down the Center position. Guorode, with all that talent, isn't starting, and I'm sure there's a reason for that. OL wouldn't hurt us, being as though that is probably the most important unit on any team. Mediocre RB's look great behind a good OL. A decent QB with time will kill you at this level.

playit12
11-17-2005, 02:05 PM
Does Quinn come with his coach? ;-)

Honestly though, when was the last time that Texas Tech put out a decent WR? Do they have anyone playing in the league that isn't a Punt Returner?

Recievers and QBs put up great numbers in the gimmick spead offense, but that doesn't make them good NFL players.

VACowboy
11-17-2005, 02:32 PM
Brooks is 6-4, 259 and runs a 4.4 forty. He did NOT have knee surgery. He had a cyst removed from behind his knee. There was no injury whatsoever. He doesn't have "character concerns," either.

It kills me how all this stuff gets started. Brooks missed some games because of the cyst, but because Groh has a no-tell policy when it comes to his team, people speculated everything from ligament damage to personal issues. He prepped a year before starting school, but so what?

My money says Brooks goes top-ten, but if he fell to us at the end of round one he'd be a Cowboy. No way Parcells passes on a guy like that after a talk with Al Groh.

CanadianCowboysFan
11-17-2005, 02:37 PM
How can any mock be worth the paper it's written on when you don't even know the final placings for the NFL teams?

dragon_mikal
11-17-2005, 02:45 PM
Vince Young is supposed to stay for his Senior year.

bbgun
11-17-2005, 03:06 PM
Here's a better, more professional one:

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

They have us taking a safety named "Landry."

http://www.123imagehost.com/uploads/235-611-92034458.jpg

Rush 2112
11-17-2005, 03:08 PM
Brooks is 6-4, 259 and runs a 4.4 forty. He did NOT have knee surgery. He had a cyst removed from behind his knee. There was no injury whatsoever. He doesn't have "character concerns," either.

It kills me how all this stuff gets started. Brooks missed some games because of the cyst, but because Groh has a no-tell policy when it comes to his team, people speculated everything from ligament damage to personal issues. He prepped a year before starting school, but so what?

My money says Brooks goes top-ten, but if he fell to us at the end of round one he'd be a Cowboy. No way Parcells passes on a guy like that after a talk with Al Groh.

So when I read that he was arrested on possession of MJ in 5/03 which Ahmad Brooks are they referring to.

Wouldn't a marijuana arrest qualify as a character concern?

He may be 6-4 259 but he won't/doesn't run a 4.4

He may run a 4.4 at his pro day or combine but not at that weight.

Miss at least half the season and go top 10?

KoRn_BoYz_5
11-17-2005, 03:11 PM
Vince Is staying and so Brady Quinn is stay also, i think the guy just made it up as he went :p: ;)

Taylor_Can_Hit21
11-17-2005, 03:11 PM
Mark my words...Mario Williams from NC State is a complete stud. They say he is the best D-lineman coming out of the draft since Julius Peppers. Also the D'Brackshaw Ferguson guy is getting a ton of hype.

VACowboy
11-17-2005, 03:17 PM
So when I read that he was arrested on possession of MJ in 5/03 which Ahmad Brooks are they referring to.

Wouldn't a marijuana arrest qualify as a character concern?

He may be 6-4 259 but he won't/doesn't run a 4.4

He may run a 4.4 at his pro day or combine but not at that weight.

Miss at least half the season and go top 10?



You're right. I forgot about the weed.

He ran a 4.4 at 249, so you may be correct, but I'd bet he's still the fastest 259-lb. football player in college. He may not go top-ten, but I wouldn't doubt it at all. I'd love to see him fall to us.

Gordon
11-17-2005, 03:19 PM
Only way Quinn leaves early is if he's guaranteed to be a Top 5 pick. Even if he is, he already has said he plans on staying, so I doubt he comes out either way.

There's absolutely no way he leaves early to be a late 1st round pick.

miamicowboy21
11-17-2005, 03:21 PM
If we decide to take a QB i want jay. cutler out of vanderbilt. The guy is a stud whom not many are talking about because vandy isnt that good, trust me someone is going to get a helluva QB. In addition he's played in the toughest conference the last four seasons.

VACowboy
11-17-2005, 03:23 PM
I like Justin Holland of Colorado State. Guy has a real NFL arm. Probably a 5-6th rounder.

Rush 2112
11-17-2005, 03:24 PM
You're right. I forgot about the weed.

He ran a 4.4 at 249, so you may be correct, but I'd bet he's still the fastest 259-lb. football player in college. He may not go top-ten, but I wouldn't doubt it at all. I'd love to see him fall to us.

I'd personally take either Brooks or Parham.....especially in the 2nd round. Top to middle of 2 would be perfect.

Was way higher on Brooks before I found out about the weed and the knee/cyst thing.

Good for Parham's stock that Brooks was out for a while.

1) Carpenter
2) Brooks/Parham

Would be sweet.

BP looks past weed thing on LB of his caliber.

VACowboy
11-17-2005, 03:42 PM
I'd personally take either Brooks or Parham.....especially in the 2nd round. Top to middle of 2 would be perfect.

Was way higher on Brooks before I found out about the weed and the knee/cyst thing.

Good for Parham's stock that Brooks was out for a while.

1) Carpenter
2) Brooks/Parham

Would be sweet.

BP looks past weed thing on LB of his caliber.



You're right about Parham. He leads the ACC in sacks with 7.5 from his MLB spot. 6-3, 253 and athletic. Quintessential 3-4 ILB.

You may be right about Brooks falling, and I'd love to see it. But he's 10000x the prosepect Luis Castillo was, and Castillo went in the mid-20's despite a positive steroid test. I know Castillo wrote the letters and came clean, but I'd bet a chat with Groh would assure Parcells that it was a one-time college kid thing and that Brooks is no Ricky Williams. Could be wrong and if I am, I wouldn't take him early in the first either, but he knows he's gonna be strictly tested at the next level. He won't drop much because of his knee.

The weed thing happened a year ago. It's why he stayed in school. Wanted to clean up his image. I wouldn't be surprised at all to see both he and Parham stay their final year. I hope they do.

Carpenter is my choice at the end of the first, bar none.

Chocolate Lab
11-17-2005, 04:03 PM
If we decide to take a QB i want jay. cutler out of vanderbilt. The guy is a stud whom not many are talking about because vandy isnt that good, trust me someone is going to get a helluva QB. In addition he's played in the toughest conference the last four seasons.
I agree... This guy is going to skyrocket up the boards in April. Might still be available in the late first, but you never know.

Nors
11-17-2005, 04:14 PM
We pass on Ngata at #1 I'm taking out a TV

junk
11-17-2005, 05:01 PM
You're right. I forgot about the weed.

He ran a 4.4 at 249, so you may be correct, but I'd bet he's still the fastest 259-lb. football player in college. He may not go top-ten, but I wouldn't doubt it at all. I'd love to see him fall to us.

I watched Antaaj Hawthorne play a lot of college ball. He was always pushing people into the backfield. I thought he'd go 1 and maybe 2 all season. He dropped like a rock as the draft approached.

Character concerns + injury concerns = bad for the old draft status.

MarionBarberThe4th
11-17-2005, 05:16 PM
A QB Im looking at is Brian Brohm next year. Parcells isnt going to take a QB round 1 this year, Bledsoe is good for now, and Henson hasnt even been given the time anticipated when we initially traded for him

ABQCOWBOY
11-17-2005, 05:21 PM
A QB Im looking at is Brian Brohm next year. Parcells isnt going to take a QB round 1 this year, Bledsoe is good for now, and Henson hasnt even been given the time anticipated when we initially traded for him

I don't know that we wouldn't take a QB this year. I think that if a guy like Quinn came out (which I doubt happens) and we liked that player, we would take him. I like Brohm out of Louisville also but I would not discount the possability of us taking a QB.

MarionBarberThe4th
11-17-2005, 05:26 PM
Just looking at Hensons contract, it shows that Bill didnt expect him to play for a few years at least, so I dont see him taking a QB round 1 when we still have holes and said 1st round QB wouldnt have a solid line, or a young WR.

Bob Sacamano
11-17-2005, 05:28 PM
a Louisville QB? hmmm

Rush 2112
11-27-2005, 11:02 PM
# More woes for top junior LB… An injury-plagued season continued for Virginia junior LB Ahmad Brooks, a potential top 10 prospect if he opts to leave school early, as he was forced to sit out this past weekend’s loss to Miami because of a bad back. Brooks had earlier missed much of the first half of the season after he underwent knee surgery last March; Brooks has also been slowed by a sprained ankle this fall.

Stay in school, get healthy, and we'll take you next year.