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Nors
11-18-2005, 01:42 PM
If we can get out of Dodge with a win Sunday we are 7-3

Thats not shabby at all!

SteveOS
11-18-2005, 01:45 PM
Go Bears and 49'ers! We'll be tied for HFA. :)

AbeBeta
11-18-2005, 01:47 PM
This I see as a must win game.

Detroit is pretty much the last weak team we face (ok maybe the Rams -- but who knows how they'll be playing at season's end). A good showing over the last 6 games would be 3-3 -- but worse is not out of the question.

We've got to have this game.

31smackdown
11-18-2005, 01:50 PM
Damnit.. I thought this was a home game... making us play in friggin Dodge... first the Giants get an additional homegame and now this! The whole NFL is against us...! I know the whole Dodge vs Ford thing is probably real big in Texas, but this is taking it a bit too far!.. :rolleyes:

hendog
11-18-2005, 01:50 PM
This I see as a must win game.

Detroit is pretty much the last weak team we face (ok maybe the Rams -- but who knows how they'll be playing at season's end). A good showing over the last 6 games would be 3-3 -- but worse is not out of the question.

We've got to have this game.


Agreed - in this league you have to win the games you're "supposed" to win to have a shot at the playoffs. Usually that is.

Danny White
11-18-2005, 01:53 PM
I don't care what our record is...

just so long as we're ranked highly in the Power Rankings!

;)

dargonking999
11-18-2005, 02:07 PM
Damnit.. I thought this was a home game... making us play in friggin Dodge... first the Giants get an additional homegame and now this! The whole NFL is against us...! I know the whole Dodge vs Ford thing is probably real big in Texas, but this is taking it a bit too far!.. :rolleyes:

huh???

DallasDW00ds0n
11-18-2005, 02:11 PM
lions will not be a pushover, their offense can be very effective with WR Roy Williams back.

lurkercowboy
11-18-2005, 02:14 PM
Damnit.. I thought this was a home game... making us play in friggin Dodge... first the Giants get an additional homegame and now this! The whole NFL is against us...! I know the whole Dodge vs Ford thing is probably real big in Texas, but this is taking it a bit too far!.. :rolleyes:

Don't worry. Marshall Dillon will keep everything honest.

AtlCB
11-18-2005, 02:15 PM
This I see as a must win game.

Detroit is pretty much the last weak team we face (ok maybe the Rams -- but who knows how they'll be playing at season's end). A good showing over the last 6 games would be 3-3 -- but worse is not out of the question.

We've got to have this game.The Chefs hadn't looked real good lately either. We should be heavy favorites against the Lions, Chefs, and Lambs.

31smackdown
11-18-2005, 02:16 PM
huh???

Dude... joke... Nors was saying if we can get out of Dodge... so I... ehh.. nevermind.. let me know if you need more help.

Maybe you need your mittens back... there seems to be a disconnect between the chair and the keyboard...

Kilyin
11-18-2005, 02:24 PM
Let's hope the bigger therefore more capable LB Fujita steps up his game this weekend. I know little Al Singleton's shoes are hard to fill, but if anyone can, it's the larger, built for the 3-4 Fujita. I mean, how did we give up so many rushing yards with the hulking giant Fujita in there instead of the obviously undersized, gets blown up on every play bum Al Singleton?

Let's also hope Shanle doesn't look like a lost puppy again when he's in there for tiny Dat on Sunday.

Obviously these were aberrations, everyone knows bigger means better.

Hostile
11-18-2005, 02:29 PM
Go Bears and 49'ers! We'll be tied for HFA. :)We would need to finish 1 game ahead of Seattle since they won the head to head match

WoodysGirl
11-18-2005, 02:30 PM
Dude... joke... Nors was saying if we can get out of Dodge... so I... ehh.. nevermind.. let me know if you need more help.

Maybe you need your mittens back... there seems to be a disconnect between the chair and the keyboard...Gotta defend Mittens here. It was pretty lame...

Sorry. :D

junk
11-18-2005, 02:30 PM
I don't care what our record is...

just so long as we're ranked highly in the Power Rankings!

;)


:lmao2:

junk
11-18-2005, 02:31 PM
Let's hope the bigger therefore more capable LB Fujita steps up his game this weekend. I know little Al Singleton's shoes are hard to fill, but if anyone can, it's the larger, built for the 3-4 Fujita. I mean, how did we give up so many rushing yards with the hulking giant Fujita in there instead of the obviously undersized, gets blown up on every play bum Al Singleton?

Let's also hope Shanle doesn't look like a lost puppy again when he's in there for tiny Dat on Sunday.

Obviously these were aberrations, everyone knows bigger means better.

:laugh2:

You guys are killing me in this thread.

The linebackers didn't play too well, but I think the DL probably played worse IMO. I hope they step it up as well.

SteveOS
11-18-2005, 02:51 PM
We would need to finish 1 game ahead of Seattle since they won the head to head match

Yup. What a great year if we can still talk about possible HFA! :)

Hostile
11-18-2005, 02:54 PM
Yup. What a great year if we can still talk about possible HFA! :)I think it is achievable.

Nors
11-18-2005, 03:05 PM
The road to Detroit is going to go through Dallas

Fletch
11-18-2005, 03:26 PM
The road to Detroit is going to go through Dallas

Are you predicting that the Cowboys will secure homefield advantage? It is not entirely out of the question. I just don't think that will happen this year. But I would love it if we somehow pulled it off.

Nors
11-18-2005, 03:31 PM
Are you predicting that the Cowboys will secure homefield advantage? It is not entirely out of the question. I just don't think that will happen this year. But I would love it if we somehow pulled it off.


Its a possibility if we keep winning games.

We get to 7-3 - beat Giants. Then we have some winnable games down stretch. As Drew said - this team is going to play better down the stretch. I believe that too.

Fletch
11-18-2005, 03:52 PM
Its a possibility if we keep winning games.

We get to 7-3 - beat Giants. Then we have some winnable games down stretch. As Drew said - this team is going to play better down the stretch. I believe that too.

I know that the media this week barely gave us any credit for our win in Philly, but good teams find ways to win. You rarely heard the media talk about all of those close and "lucky win" games the Patriots pulled out of their a**es over the tenure of their Super Bowl runs. They just credited Bellichick for his genius system and the players for their gutsy performances. But not the Cowboys... just lucky and should be thanking our lucky stars that they won. :rolleyes:

But anyway, we are finding ways to win, and that game in Philly with our backs to the wall for over 55 minutes just goes to show that we hung in there and made enough plays to snatch yet another "W".

So I can definitely see this team getting better down the stretch. I would love to have the road to Detroit go through the Cowboys.

TheSkaven
11-18-2005, 04:18 PM
This team will be 7-3 when we wake up Monday morning. This game is a lock. And no, Nors, it ain't to shabby at all. Suffice it to say even the optimists among us here had this team at no better than 6-4 at this point that point in the season, and others.. well had us a lot worse.

If the G-Men lose this weekend, things might start to come off at the seams in NY. I expect Philly to play them tough this weekend, then they have a tough road game against Seattle. I win in NY in a few weeks may just be the game that makes the Cowboys' uncatchable in the East.

DMX690
11-18-2005, 04:48 PM
This team will be 7-3 when we wake up Monday morning. This game is a lock. And no, Nors, it ain't to shabby at all. Suffice it to say even the optimists among us here had this team at no better than 6-4 at this point that point in the season, and others.. well had us a lot worse.

If the G-Men lose this weekend, things might start to come off at the seams in NY. I expect Philly to play them tough this weekend, then they have a tough road game against Seattle. I win in NY in a few weeks may just be the game that makes the Cowboys' uncatchable in the East.

No games our locks in the NFL, ask The Giant and Falcons last week. If the Cowboys has this type of attitude then were in trouble this week.

Billy Bullocks
11-18-2005, 04:57 PM
Bad teams will pull miracles out of their *** against a good team, then lose 2 against "bad" teams. Good teams beat the teams they "should" beat, and most of the other ones too.

Champsheart
11-18-2005, 05:13 PM
We would need to finish 1 game ahead of Seattle since they won the head to head match

Unless, Seattle, Dallas, and Carolina finshed with the same record. Then it would go to different tie breakers, I think. Please correct me if I am wrong.

big_neil
11-18-2005, 05:21 PM
If we can get out of Dodge with a win Sunday we are 7-3

Thats not shabby at all!

Definitely playoff level. Double it and you get 14-6, which is 10-6, a wild card, 4-0 in the playoffs and a Super Bowl!

Nors
11-18-2005, 05:34 PM
Just an aside

Bledsoe was 9-3 to end last year and now 6-3. Thats playing at a 15-6 clip.

I'm researching interesting stat on playoffs and will post later.

MichaelWinicki
11-18-2005, 05:39 PM
I'm thinking we lose more two games the rest of the season... you pick the 2.

Hostile
11-18-2005, 05:41 PM
Unless, Seattle, Dallas, and Carolina finshed with the same record. Then it would go to different tie breakers, I think. Please correct me if I am wrong.We need to beat Carolina. If I am not mistaken if we've lost to both teams we're tied with we are out of the picture for HFA.

Cbz40
11-18-2005, 05:48 PM
NFL Tiebreaking Procedures
(March 20, 2002) -- With the NFL realigning into eight four-team divisions to accommodate the arrival of the Houston Texans, the league adopted new tiebreaking rules.


Common opponents will now be the third tiebreaker within a division after head-to-head games and division record because each of the four teams will have 14 common games in the 16-game schedule. The owners also moved the strength-of-victory tiebreaker ahead of the strength-of-schedule tiebreaker.

The six postseason participants from each conference will now be seeded as follows:
1. The division champion with the best record.
2. The division champion with the second-best record.
3. The division champion with the third-best record.
4. The division champion with the fourth-best record.
5. The Wild Card club with the best record.
6. The Wild Card club with the second-best record.

The following procedures will be used to break standings ties for postseason playoffs and to determine regular-season schedules.
NOTE: Tie games count as one-half win and one-half loss for both clubs.

TO BREAK A TIE WITHIN A DIVISION
If, at the end of the regular season, two or more clubs in the same division finish with identical won-lost-tied percentages, the following steps will be taken until a champion is determined.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated during any step, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of the two-club format).
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games among the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.

TO BREAK A TIE FOR THE WILD-CARD TEAM
If it is necessary to break ties to determine the two Wild-Card clubs from each conference, the following steps will be taken.
1. If the tied clubs are from the same division, apply division tie breaker.
2. If the tied clubs are from different divisions, apply the following steps.

Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head, if applicable.
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
4. Strength of victory.
5. Strength of schedule.
6. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
7. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best net points in conference games.
9. Best net points in all games.
10. Best net touchdowns in all games.
11. Coin toss.

Three or More Clubs
(Note: If two clubs remain tied after third or other clubs are eliminated, tie breaker reverts to step 1 of applicable two-club format.)
1. Apply division tie breaker to eliminate all but the highest ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. The original seeding within a division upon application of the division tie breaker remains the same for all subsequent applications of the procedure that are necessary to identify the two Wild-Card participants.
2. Head-to-head sweep. (Applicable only if one club has defeated each of the others or if one club has lost to each of the others.)
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games, minimum of four.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in conference games.
10. Best net points in all games.
11. Best net touchdowns in all games.
12. Coin toss

When the first Wild-Card team has been identified, the procedure is repeated to name the second Wild-Card, i.e., eliminate all but the highest-ranked club in each division prior to proceeding to step 2. In situations where three or more teams from the same division are involved in the procedure, the original seeding of the teams remains the same for subsequent applications of the tie breaker if the top-ranked team in that division qualifies for a Wild-Card berth.

OTHER TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURES
1. Only one club advances to the playoffs in any tie-breaking step. Remaining tied clubs revert to the first step of the applicable division or Wild-Card tie breakers. As an example, if two clubs remain tied in any tie-breaker step after all other clubs have been eliminated, the procedure reverts to step one of the two-club format to determine the winner. When one club wins the tie breaker, all other clubs revert to step 1 of the applicable two-club or three-club format.
2. In comparing division and conference records or records against common opponents among tied teams, the best won-lost-tied percentage is the deciding factor since teams may have played an unequal number of games.
3. To determine home-field priority among division titlists, apply Wild-Card tie breakers.
4. To determine home-field priority for Wild-Card qualifiers, apply division tie breakers (if teams are from the same division) or Wild-Card tie breakers (if teams are from different ivisions).

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SELECTION MEETING
If two or more clubs are tied in the selection order, the strength-of-schedule tie breaker is applied, subject to the following exceptions for playoff clubs:

1. The Super Bowl winner is last and the Super Bowl loser next-to-last.
2. Any non-Super Bowl playoff club involved in a tie shall be assigned priority within its segment below that of non-playoff clubs and in the order that the playoff clubs exited from the playoffs. Thus, within a tied segment a playoff club that loses in the Wild-Card game will have priority over a playoff club that loses in the Divisional playoff game, which in turn will have priority over a club that loses in the Conference Championship game. If two tied clubs exited the playoffs in the same round, the tie is broken by strength of schedule.

If any ties cannot be broken by strength of schedule, the divisional or conference tie breakers, whichever are applicable, are applied. Any ties that still exist are broken by a coin flip.

Nors
11-18-2005, 06:19 PM
Chicago 6-3 Carolina, TB, Atlanta
Carolina 7-2 Chicago, Atlanta, TB, Atlanta
Atlanta 6-3 TB, Carolina, Chicago, Tampa, Carolina
Tampa 6-3 Atlanta, Chicago, Carolina, Atlanta
Seattle 7-2 NY, Philly,

Dallas 6-3 3-1 Giants, Wash, Carolina
Wash 5-4 2-1 Dallas, Giants, Philly
Giants 6-3 1-1 Philly, Seattle, Philly, Wash
Philly 4-5 0-3 Giants, Seattle,Giants, Wash


That equals 4 guaranteed losses in NFC East for our foes.

We virtually own all tiebreakers in NFC East -3-1 record

Seattle has two games in NFC East = Win Win Seattle wins they are knocking out Giants, Eagles

Other than Seattle all the other 6-3 and 7-2 play each other a lot - more guaranteed losses.