Pathetic...

[ka0tik]

I find it kinda pathetic when I read and see people saying: "I will not root for the cowboys if TO is on the team''. how can u give up on your team, or how can you turn your back, just b/c TO?!!! That simply does not fit in my mind!!

yes! he dissed the star! We know hes not wanted here! but CERTAINLY I WILL NOT TURN MY BACK ON THE COWBOYS AS A TEAM!! b/c of T.O!! I WILL ROOT FOR THEM!! even if hes here! doesnt mean you're gonna root precisely for TO.

Just MHO.

[dal0789]

100% right Kowboy!

[ka0tik]

And no this is not a THREAD ABOUT TO IS HE COMING TO DALLAS? this is a Thread about the ''support'' the Team would lose with him being here.

[Future]

he better not come to dallas


but ill still root for them b/c i dont have the cajones to find another team

[ka0tik]

100% right Kowboy!

;) hey, I guess this is a Time when you show loyalty to your team. no matter the circumstances.

[Da Hammer]

Yeah i've said this before on another T.O thread, that to me if you don't root for the Cowboys just because of T.O then to me your not a true fan of the team.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

Its never happening so its not going to have to come down to that

But hypothetically I would definetely root for them still

[ka0tik]

he better not come to dallas


but ill still root for them b/c i dont have the cajones to find another team

yeah, I understand the point about people NOT wanting him here. Thats very clear. But not the other point about turning their back on them.

[MrMom]

Wow, so much TO talk...it's sickening. I pray that we don't sign TO just so we don't have to read all of those threads. Can you imagine it?

[LaTunaNostra]

I would still root for the team, but I'd hope the guy in my signature would put TO out of his misery, pronto.

[Reality]

I will root for the Cowboys no matter who plays on their team. I'm a lifelong fan and don't plan to change that.

[Future]

Wow, so much TO talk...it's sickening. I pray that we don't sign TO just so we don't have to read all of those threads. Can you imagine it?

LOL that would be a site. and the media would have a field day...obviously

[Wolverine]

All these people sayin how the will no longer be Cowboy fans or whatever if T.O. becomes a Cowboy. Yeah right. After T.O. scores a few TDs and our offense is #1 they will come back. Some of them with T.O. shirts and jerseys.

I hope we do get T.O. If we do then every time he scores a TD I will probaly put the taunt he does in my sig.

The REAL Cowboy fans will still be here if we get T.O. or not.

[ka0tik]

All these people sayin how the will no longer be Cowboy fans or whatever if T.O. becomes a Cowboy. Yeah right. After T.O. scores a few TDs and our offense is #1 they will come back. Some of them with T.O. shirts and jerseys.

I hope we do get T.O. If we do then every time he scores a TD I will probaly put the taunt he does in my sig.

The REAL Cowboy fans will still be here if we get T.O. or not.

:bow: Exactly! ...

[Ashwynn]

I have said I wont watch, never said I wont root for em. He would put a majpor downer on the whole Cowboys experience though. Call it what you want, I call it standing on principle.

[TheSkaven]

I will root for the Cowboys no matter who plays on their team. I'm a lifelong fan and don't plan to change that.Truthfully, I have to believe the people saying they would lose interest in the team are blowing smoke. I'm a lifelong fan and (sad as this is) the Cowboys are almost like my favorite hobby/pasttime and there is nothing that would cause me to ever turn my back on this team. I'd imagine most of us feel the same.

[Da Hammer]

All these people sayin how the will no longer be Cowboy fans or whatever if T.O. becomes a Cowboy. Yeah right. After T.O. scores a few TDs and our offense is #1 they will come back. Some of them with T.O. shirts and jerseys.

I hope we do get T.O. If we do then every time he scores a TD I will probaly put the taunt he does in my sig.

The REAL Cowboy fans will still be here if we get T.O. or not.
If he signs here and actually behaves he will probably by far be everyones favorite player on the Boyz. A thing that makes me think he would behave here is 2 reasons, first because since Irvin and him are real close friends i doubt he'll want to let Irvin down by acting up here in Dallas. He has been pretty much he's only vocal supporter from like ESPN. Second i'd like to see him go and try his antics with Parcells here. Parcells is someone who demands respect and thats the type of coach that i think Owens would respect. Parcells would just throw his butt out the door like he did with Bryant if Owens tries to act up.

BTW we have guys here who would actually stand up against T.O vocally like Roy and L.A not like in Philly where the players didn't even back up McNabb and kept to themselves

[ghosttown cowboy]

I hated Deion Sanders, couldn't stand the guy, but as soon as he became a Cowboy I rooted for him. Not all of us remember all the players that helped us to 5 SuperBowl titles, but we have 5 SuperBowl titles, and that is all that matters! I can't stand TWO right now, but if he is a Cowboy I will root for him, I will remember that he stomped on the STAR, but I may forget it if he catches the winning TD in the SuperBowl!

[MarionBarberThe4th]

If he signs here and actually behaves he will probably by far be everyones favorite player on the Boyz

Thats not even close to being true.

[Wolverine]

If he signs here and actually behaves he will probably by far be everyones favorite player on the Boyz. A thing that makes me think he would behave here is 2 reasons, first because since Irvin and him are real close friends i doubt he'll want to let Irvin down by acting up here in Dallas. He has been pretty much he's only vocal supporter from like ESPN. Second i'd like to see him go and try his antics with Parcells here. Parcells is someone who demands respect and thats the type of coach that i think Owens would respect. Parcells would just throw his butt out the door like he did with Bryant if Owens tries to act up.

BTW we have guys here who would actually stand up against T.O vocally like Roy and L.A not like in Philly where the players didn't even back up McNabb and kept to themselves


Hey Hammer. Do you think BP would put up with T.O.s taunts after scores a TD. I think he would but that is as far as T.O. would ever get with BP here.

[ka0tik]

If TO starts scoring TD's and behaves, I can see 90% of Dallas Fans RoOting for him in particular. Now the Team is diff. I expect 100% of the FaNs to RoOt for them.

[JonJon]

If T.O. were to come to Dallas, not only would I root for the Cowboys, I would also root for T.O. to finally "get it" and be a team player. I would hope that Parcells would help clean his tarnished image by retuning T.O. to the humble Terrell Owens that first came to the 49ers. I would root for him to show respect to the coaching staff and all players and show that it not all about him, but about the team and winning. And of course, I will root for Owens to become the best WR in the league for the Cowboys and light up the stat sheets.

[mr.jameswoods]

;) hey, I guess this is a Time when you show loyalty to your team. no matter the circumstances.


Sorry but I never believed in that concept. As far as I'm concerned the Dallas Cowboys and any professional and college sports team owes their fans because without fans, the league doesn't exist. We make this league; they don't make us. Without us, it's a just a stupid little game and nothing more. We pay their bills by purchasing tickets, merchandise, all of the products that pay networks the rights to broadcast.

If I was Jerry Jones, I would care what my fans think and how I represent them. Maybe this is an old concept but in my eyes, there is a distinction between winning and winning with class. I don't want to win at the expense of harboring a pariah and something that stands for selfishness. By signing TO, you are condoning his past actions and are saying that you are okay with it.

I respect your opinon for wanting TO but I haven't written posts stating I think you are pathetic for desiring to win at any cost. That is my right to post that opinon as it is your right to post this thread. You can question my loyalty as a fan all you want, but I will question your character as a human being. I will never question another fan but I will offer a hearty defense such as this if any fan questions my loyalty to a team that I love.

I would still support the team but I wouldn't be happy with the decision as I wasn't when Jerry made Dave Campo the head coach for 3 years.

[mr.jameswoods]

I hated Deion Sanders, couldn't stand the guy, but as soon as he became a Cowboy I rooted for him. Not all of us remember all the players that helped us to 5 SuperBowl titles, but we have 5 SuperBowl titles, and that is all that matters! I can't stand TWO right now, but if he is a Cowboy I will root for him, I will remember that he stomped on the STAR, but I may forget it if he catches the winning TD in the SuperBowl!

You can't compare Deion and TO. Deion was ultimatley a team player. He never complained about playing time or not being put at receiver more. He didn't disrupt chemistry in the locker room. In fact, he was often the peacemaker in the locker room and one who infused energy in the locker room. Yes, he was flamboyant but he wasn't TO.

[nathanlt]

Yeah i've said this before on another T.O thread, that to me if you don't root for the Cowboys just because of T.O then to me your not a true fan of the team.

Or maybe, a deep diehard fan, who's been a fan since he was 7 would not want a cancer like T.O. to have a chance to destroy his team the way he has the 49ers and Eagles.

Or even if the Cowboys won, and won big with T.O. Could you really stand to see him cheer, jeer and become a complete nuisance while wearing a Cowboys uniform? Something along the lines of Barry Switzer's "We did it our way baby, we did it our way!", but a thousand times worse.

I couldn't watch. I'd want to watch the rest of the team do well, but I couldn't watch T.O. and I'd resent Jerry for making it so I couldn't stand to watch the Cowboys anymore, but I'd have no other team to root for.

Finally, to inject a little humor into a situation that's very serious to me...
My reaction would be like Richard Gere in Officer and a Gentleman... right when the drill sergeant has "broken" him and he threatens to give him a DOR.

"I GOT NO PLACE LEFT TO GO!"

[nathanlt]

Sorry but I never believed in that concept. As far as I'm concerned the Dallas Cowboys and any professional and college sports team owes their fans because without fans, the league doesn't exist. We make this league; they don't make us. Without us, it's a just a stupid little game and nothing more. We pay their bills by purchasing tickets, merchandise, all of the products that pay networks the rights to broadcast.

If I was Jerry Jones, I would care what my fans think and how I represent them. Maybe this is an old concept but in my eyes, there is a distinction between winning and winning with class. I don't want to win at the expense of harboring a pariah and something that stands for selfishness. By signing TO, you are condoning his past actions and are saying that you are okay with it.

I respect your opinon for wanting TO but I haven't written posts stating I think you are pathetic for desiring to win at any cost. That is my right to post that opinon as it is your right to post this thread. You can question my loyalty as a fan all you want, but I will question your character as a human being. I will never question another fan but I will offer a hearty defense such as this if any fan questions my loyalty to a team that I love.

I would still support the team but I wouldn't be happy with the decision as I wasn't when Jerry made Dave Campo the head coach for 3 years.

Win at any cost? I completely understand there are some costs too high for winning. T.O. as a Cowboy would completely ruin any Super Bowl run for me. Cowboys with T.O. in the Super Bowl would be worse than anything, because that lame, childish punk would be representing our Dallas Cowboys. This would be the lowest this franchise ever sank if T.O. were a Cowboy, without question.

Some costs are too high!

[Bob Sacamano]

TO's not coming to Dallas

[Chocolate Lab]

I would still root for the team, but I'd hope the guy in my signature would put TO out of his misery, pronto.
:laugh2: You read my mind, Herms!

It will never happen, but the thought of LA giving Owens the beatdown almost makes the thought tolerable. :D

[HTownCowboysFan]

Hey, if he comes, he comes. They are still my team and I'll root just as hard for them as I have over the last 35+ years.

As Seinfeld says, you are actully rooting for clothes anyway. ;)

[WV Cowboy]

As far as Owens coming to Dallas.

The only way Owens comes here is by agreeing to Parcells terms, so if he does come, you won't see the old Owens.

You will see a different Owens, Parcells does that you know.

But most of all, I have been a Cowboys fan since 1967. I am a die hard fan.

My wife of 30 yrs knew nothing of football or the Cowboys when we married, and now she is a knowledgable NFL fan and a Cowboys homer.

Both of my sons are Cowboys fans.

Everyone who knows me well knows I am a Cowboys fan.

Many people told me after the Skins collapse, "Hey I thought of you that night."

My point is this, I am now, and have been for a long time, and will always be a BIG Cowboys fan, ... I love'm.

I WILL NOT let Terrell Owens take that from me.

[1fisher]

If TO starts scoring TD's and behaves, I can see 90% of Dallas Fans RoOting for him in particular. Now the Team is diff. I expect 100% of the FaNs to RoOt for them.


have you taken a poll that leads you to believe 90% would root for him?? I think you would be safe to say A LOT of fans not 90%.........

I pray that he never wears the blue and silver..... unless it's CFL or arena! :laugh2:


NO to TO!!!!

[Champsheart]

I find it kinda pathetic when I read and see people saying: "I will not root for the cowboys if TO is on the team''. how can u give up on your team, or how can you turn your back, just b/c TO?!!! That simply does not fit in my mind!!

yes! he dissed the star! We know hes not wanted here! but CERTAINLY I WILL NOT TURN MY BACK ON THE COWBOYS AS A TEAM!! b/c of T.O!! I WILL ROOT FOR THEM!! even if hes here! doesnt mean you're gonna root precisely for TO.

Just MHO.

I agree 100%! I can not think of anything that would ever make me turn my back on the Cowboys.

Honestly, I never have liked people questioning a person's loyalties to their team, but I must say when I read a comment saying if Dallas does this, or Dallas does that, I will never watch them again....well I definetly dont consider you to be a true fan. How could I?

The Cowboys are in my blood, and have shared all the ups and downs since I knew waht football was (1976).

So IMO if you can jump off the wagon, you where never really on. JMO

[1fisher]

Sorry but I never believed in that concept. As far as I'm concerned the Dallas Cowboys and any professional and college sports team owes their fans because without fans, the league doesn't exist. We make this league; they don't make us. Without us, it's a just a stupid little game and nothing more. We pay their bills by purchasing tickets, merchandise, all of the products that pay networks the rights to broadcast.

If I was Jerry Jones, I would care what my fans think and how I represent them. Maybe this is an old concept but in my eyes, there is a distinction between winning and winning with class. I don't want to win at the expense of harboring a pariah and something that stands for selfishness. By signing TO, you are condoning his past actions and are saying that you are okay with it.

I respect your opinon for wanting TO but I haven't written posts stating I think you are pathetic for desiring to win at any cost. That is my right to post that opinon as it is your right to post this thread. You can question my loyalty as a fan all you want, but I will question your character as a human being. I will never question another fan but I will offer a hearty defense such as this if any fan questions my loyalty to a team that I love.

I would still support the team but I wouldn't be happy with the decision as I wasn't when Jerry made Dave Campo the head coach for 3 years.

post of the day!

[1fisher]

Win at any cost? I completely understand there are some costs too high for winning. T.O. as a Cowboy would completely ruin any Super Bowl run for me. Cowboys with T.O. in the Super Bowl would be worse than anything, because that lame, childish punk would be representing our Dallas Cowboys. This would be the lowest this franchise ever sank if T.O. were a Cowboy, without question.

Some costs are too high!


right on brotha............. :D

[WV Cowboy]

As far as I'm concerned the Dallas Cowboys and any professional and college sports team owes their fans because without fans, the league doesn't exist. We make this league; they don't make us. Without us, it's a just a stupid little game and nothing more.

We would look pretty stupid sitting in the stands, pom poms in hand, faces all painted up, without a game to watch or a team to root for.

Or sitting in front of a TV for 3 hrs watching white snow.

:lmao2:

[Cbz40]

99.9% of the people saying they would no longer be Cowboy fans if TO comes to town are just blowing off steam......talking to hear their head rattle. etc. When push came to shove they would be there rooting for the Cowboys just like they always were.

As for me, being the cranky old bastid I am, I would moan and groan for a week or two, be a pain in the butt on the board, pick a few fights with juke but in the end I would be there rooting for my boyz. The Cowboys have been a big part of life for too long to change alliances now.

[JackMagist]

As I've said before I will still be a Cowboys fan I will root for them and I will support them and I will cheer for all of them Except for TO. But I will not buy any of their products or tickets as long as he is on the team. It will be my own little protest that will go completely unnoticed by the organization (unless there many more out there of like mind than I expect). But I will know and take comfort in the fact that I am not in any way contributing to TO.

[MS17]

Personally, I dont see T.O. coming to Dallas, although Jerry may harbor some secret desire, at some level, to have an explosive player like that on the roster.
As Jimmy Johnson said a few weeks ago on FOX pre-game show, T.O. and his agent are going to now have to accede to a any new team's contract agreement, a one-year deal, small signing bonus, loaded with conditions and escape clauses to jettison him if he repeats his coach-killing, anti-team antics again. Sounds like Jimmah might have this one about right. I still dont see T.O. wearing a star, although stranger things have happened before. :o:

[Ashwynn]

I dont understand how you guys that want him can overlook his 3rd grade attitude and his solid gold image of himself.

Have you guys not seen what he did in SF. Have you guys not seen what he did in Philthy?

If keythrew a fit and would not talk to media, called Parcells an idiot and called beldsoe a *** and told Peytion to not talk to him till he was spoken too, you same guys would be calling for his head.

When it started effecting us and FA leave cause they no longer want to be associated with this stink, FA like D Ware, JJones, M Barber and P Crayton.

If you guys can actually look us pple that know in the face and tell us you actually think Parcells and Roy or Glover or Bledsoe will keep TO in check, I can actually tell you for every one in here that can say that, you are delusional. Reid was thought of as a tough coach before this. Look how it turned out with His best buddy in the whole world on the same team.

TO is all about TO and nothing we do, Parcells does, Glover, or Bledsoe does will change him. He will continue to throw fits if hes not getting hsi way. His way is to be the center of the football universe. Every pass MUST come his way, We need to run less and pass more. We need to score on every pass play. Or we will piss off the mighty TO.

He will ruin this team and send us back to before 5 years ago. You think we are rebuilding now, wait till TO gets finished with this team. You aint seen nothing yet.

[WV Cowboy]

I dont understand how you guys that want him can overlook his 3rd grade attitude and his solid gold image of himself.

Have you guys not seen what he did in SF. Have you guys not seen what he did in Philthy?

If keythrew a fit and would not talk to media, called Parcells an idiot and called beldsoe a *** and told Peytion to not talk to him till he was spoken too, you same guys would be calling for his head.

When it started effecting us and FA leave cause they no longer want to be associated with this stink, FA like D Ware, JJones, M Barber and P Crayton.

If you guys can actually look us pple that know in the face and tell us you actually think Parcells and Roy or Glover or Bledsoe will keep TO in check, I can actually tell you for every one in here that can say that, you are delusional. Reid was thought of as a tough coach before this. Look how it turned out with His best buddy in the whole world on the same team.

TO is all about TO and nothing we do, Parcells does, Glover, or Bledsoe does will change him. He will continue to throw fits if hes not getting hsi way. His way is to be the center of the football universe. Every pass MUST come his way, We need to run less and pass more. We need to score on every pass play. Or we will piss off the mighty TO.

He will ruin this team and send us back to before 5 years ago. You think we are rebuilding now, wait till TO gets finished with this team. You aint seen nothing yet.
Objection your honor, ... speculation.

[1fisher]

As I've said before I will still be a Cowboys fan I will root for them and I will support them and I will cheer for all of them Except for TO. But I will not buy any of their products or tickets as long as he is on the team. It will be my own little protest that will go completely unnoticed by the organization (unless there many more out there of like mind than I expect). But I will know and take comfort in the fact that I am not in any way contributing to TO.

I would put my shirts, caps, flags, cups, mugs, window stickers, license plates and covers, and anything with the star in storage until TO was off the team. I would root for the boys but NOT TO!!!!!!

[Doomsday101]

Objection your honor, ... speculation.

Over ruled now sit down Mr. WV. LOL

[WV Cowboy]

I would put my shirts, caps, flags, cups, mugs, window stickers, license plates and covers, and anything with the star in storage until TO was off the team.

:laugh2: :laugh1: :lmao2:


Even your Emmitt bobble head doll ???

[aikemirv]

Sorry but I never believed in that concept. As far as I'm concerned the Dallas Cowboys and any professional and college sports team owes their fans because without fans, the league doesn't exist. We make this league; they don't make us. Without us, it's a just a stupid little game and nothing more. We pay their bills by purchasing tickets, merchandise, all of the products that pay networks the rights to broadcast.

If I was Jerry Jones, I would care what my fans think and how I represent them. Maybe this is an old concept but in my eyes, there is a distinction between winning and winning with class. I don't want to win at the expense of harboring a pariah and something that stands for selfishness. By signing TO, you are condoning his past actions and are saying that you are okay with it.

I respect your opinon for wanting TO but I haven't written posts stating I think you are pathetic for desiring to win at any cost. That is my right to post that opinon as it is your right to post this thread. You can question my loyalty as a fan all you want, but I will question your character as a human being. I will never question another fan but I will offer a hearty defense such as this if any fan questions my loyalty to a team that I love.

I would still support the team but I wouldn't be happy with the decision as I wasn't when Jerry made Dave Campo the head coach for 3 years.

What he said!

And also, I know that the Cowboys lost a lot of fans with the way Jones treated Landry.

To say we are pathetic when the owner of the team puts winning above team is a bit far fetched. I would say it is pathetic to try to win at any cost!

[Rockytop6]

I get tired of people telling me whether I am a true fan or not. Who has appointed any person on this board to decide who is or who isn't a true fan? Who has appointed anybody on this board to decide the criteria for being a "true fan" of the Cowboys?

I have been a fan since 1960 when the franchise started. I have supported them through good times and bad times. I have supported them when they only won one game and when they won SBs.

I have contacted the American Embassy when I have had to travel through Communist countries, to find out scores on the Cowboys when I wound up being interrogated for it. I suppose because some officials thought I was using some code to contact the American Government.

I don't want some Johnny-come-lately telling me whether I am a true fan or not. Unless you have been a staunch dyed-in-the-wool fan for 45 years then don't try to set any criteria to judge whether I am a "true fan" or not. I think that most who try to impose their definition of a "true fan" on others probably do good to be able to spell "true fan" much less set the criteria for one.

[nathanlt]

One more thing... Not putting up some protest to T.O. would be akin to trading away Randy White for Bill Romanowski, although on a much larger scale!! There's NEVER been a punk in the NFL like T.O.

I'm drawing a line in the sand, let Jerry know having T.O. on our team is not acceptable!! That's all I'm saying.

[Cbz40]

I get tired of people telling me whether I am a true fan or not. Who has appointed any person on this board to decide who is or who isn't a true fan? Who has appointed anybody on this board to decide the criteria for being a "true fan" of the Cowboys?

I have been a fan since 1960 when the franchise started. I have supported them through good times and bad times. I have supported them when they only won one game and when they won SBs.

I have contacted the American Embassy when I have had to travel through Communist countries, to find out scores on the Cowboys when I wound up being interrogated for it. I suppose because some officials thought I was using some code to contact the American Government.

I don't want some Johnny-come-lately telling me whether I am a true fan or not. Unless you have been a staunch dyed-in-the-wool fan for 45 years then don't try to set any criteria to judge whether I am a "true fan" or not. I think that most who try to impose their definition of a "true fan" on others probably do good to be able to spell "true fan" much less set the criteria for one.


Exactly......Excellent post ;)

[Ashwynn]

I never called anyone a non-fan because you guys want TO. I have said anyone that wants TO is stupid and cant see past the nose on his face. I stand by that. You can certainly be a silly fan, I will admit, being silly does not make you not a fan, just a silly fan.

[Ashwynn]

Objection your honor, ... speculation.
Just as yours is speculation he will behave, At least I am going off of past history. We have seen this twice, We have seen your version exactly 0, zero, none, not gunna happen times before.

When makng an educated guess, its best to go by the subjects past history and project his future behavior patterns based off of what hes done in the past. Rarely does a cheatah change his spots. I have never known tthat to be true. But then TO is so Magnanomousthat he can do the impossible right?

[Cbz40]

I never called anyone a non-fan because you guys want TO. I have said anyone that wants TO is stupid and cant see past the nose on his face. I stand by that. You can certainly be a silly fan, I will admit, being silly does not make you not a fan, just a silly fan.

Ummmmmmmmmmmm........ok.........Someone disagrees with you....they are now silly fans. That makes you just as silly as the rest of us. :D

[Ashwynn]

Ummmmmmmmmmmm........ok.........Someone disagrees with you....they are now silly fans. That makes you just as silly as the rest of us. :D
Never said I am not silly. I am far from perfect. But when common sense wont work with these guys, nothing left to do butt walk away shaking your head. Anything you walk away from shaking your head at isn't too smart from your perspective. Thats where I am coming from, my persepctive. I have learnt, when I post something contrary to someones opinion, I am silly, so tit for tat, when someone disagrees with my POV, they must too be silly.

But atleast I know I am right on this one.

[WV Cowboy]

Just as yours is speculation he will behave, At least I am going off of past history. We have seen this twice, We have seen your version exactly 0, zero, none, not gunna happen times before.

When makng an educated guess, its best to go by the subjects past history and project his future behavior patterns based off of what hes done in the past. Rarely does a cheatah change his spots. I have never known tthat to be true. But then TO is so Magnanomousthat he can do the impossible right?
I'm not speculating anything, all I have said is that if Parcells signs off on it, I will support it.

Parcells changed Keyshawns spots, Bryan Cox's spots, Glenn's spots, etc.

I have said I would rather win without him, but if Parcells brings him in, ... it's on !!

I must say that I am :lmao2: when reading posts about people not watching the Cowboys, putting their Dallas hats and calendars away, etc.

I am having fun with all of these TO threads.

[Cbz40]

Never said I am not silly. I am far from perfect. But when common sense wont work with these guys, nothing left to do butt walk away shaking your head. Anything you walk away from shaking your head at isn't too smart from your perspective. Thats where I am coming from, my persepctive. I have learnt, when I post something contrary to someones opinion, I am silly, so tit for tat, when someone disagrees with my POV, they must too be silly.

But atleast I know I am right on this one.


I am not disagreesing with your opinion of TO.....I'm of the same opinion.

Fans have a right to think for themselves and form their own opinions .....if that happens to differ from ours that does not make them any less of a fan.
That's my opinion.

[The30YardSlant]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I would not watch Dallas for TO's duration here. I would still want them to win and wouldnt root for any other team, but I would not watch them. That's how much I dispise TO and what he represents in sports.

[WV Cowboy]

I've said it before, I'll say it again: I would not watch Dallas for TO's duration here. I would still want them to win and wouldnt root for any other team, but I would not watch them. That's how much I dispise TO and what he represents in sports.
Will you try and catch Dallas scores on Sundays ?
Will you watch primetime on ESPN ?
Will you read the papers ?
Will you post here ?

I wouldn't see why you would if you weren't interseted in the Cowboys games.

It will be like the off season for you.

[aikemirv]

Will you try and catch Dallas scores on Sundays ?
Will you watch primetime on ESPN ?
Will you read the papers ?
Will you post here ?

I wouldn't see why you would if you weren't interseted in the Cowboys games.

It will be like the off season for you.

Not only will I not root for them to win, I will hope they lose just to prove a point to Jerry Jones that this type of behavior gets you nowwhere in a team sport environment!!!!

[WV Cowboy]

Not only will I not root for them to win, I will hope they lose just to prove a point to Jerry Jones that this type of behavior gets you nowwhere in a team sport environment!!!!
And thus, the title of this thread !

Which is ... Pathetic :rolleyes:

[Alexander]

I will hope they lose just to prove a point to Jerry Jones

:rolleyes:

[aikemirv]

And thus, the title of this thread !

Title of this thread

"Pathetic"

Definition of pathetic in sports - TO

Calls out a teamate - who with that teammate had combined for 20 TD's in a less than 20 game span - that teammate who was playing with a sports hernia and bruised chest and not complaining one bit or drawing attention to himself.

A sports person who compared himself with because of all the persecution he felt he was getting.

now, that is enough about TO - although there is just so much more:

On to The definition of Pathetic in Fandom:

Someone, who does not care who is on their team as long as they win games.

Does not care about their moral or ethical values as if it has no effect on society as a whole.

Will sacrifice any kind of team ethic for an increased chance to get another SB victory.

TO is an embarrassment - why on earth anyone would want him on their team defies any kind of logic. If you would like to continue to portray people who do not condone this behavior and would like it to be snuffed out in society - then that is your right - but your society will be very Pathetic

[WV Cowboy]

I just meant that I think it is pathetic that a fan would hope his team loses every game because that team doesn't do things the way "said fan" thinks they should.

[DLCassidy]

I think it's funny that people hate TO with so much passion. I wonder if the massive media hype on his antics doesn't ramp up the level of dislike for the guy. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending him or his actions. But I do think Bill Parcells has it right when he refused comment on TO or how the Eagles were handling things saying "I'm not there. In not on the inside of that- I don't know the player and I don't know what led up to what the Eagles did". Yet to read the level of hate from some posters you'd think the guy was Charles Manson and that we as real outsiders know all the facts.

It's true Owens has said some really dumb things, that much we do know. He may not be that bright or maybe he's just nuts, who can say? Listening to Drew Rosenhaus tell him he would get him a new contract was probably his biggest mistake since that set the rest of the events that followed in motion. Would he be as annoying here? Would he be a cancer? Is he just a bad guy? I'll defer to Bill Parcells judgement on that. Because I have great confidence Parcells will look at that situation carefully and get all the facts before he brought him to Dallas. IBWT. If Bill brings him in, then he's got my support.

[aikemirv]

And I think it is pathetic to proceed with a win at all cost mentality!

That is what Philly did and most everyone on this board laughed at them and what most everyone predicted would happen did. But somehow BP, who could not even tame a nobody like Antonio Bryant is going to keep TO in check. Please!!

[Aikmaniac]

I've said in one of the other T.O. threads before that if he is signed here, I will liken the day to the day which Tom Landry was fired. I was very upset that day but still rooted for the Cowboys and was very happy because of the early 90's success. I will visit that frame of mind again if/when Owens signs in Dallas.

Remember the day when this stood on the star...

[DLCassidy]

And I think it is pathetic to proceed with a win at all cost mentality!

That is what Philly did and most everyone on this board laughed at them and what most everyone predicted would happen did. But somehow BP, who could not even tame a nobody like Antonio Bryant is going to keep TO in check. Please!!

Parcells did keep AB in check. He got rid of him. And there is no doubt any contract with Owens would have behavior protection for the Cowboys. If he behaves, he could be a big asset, if he misbehaves he's released.

[Big Country]

I will root for the Cowboys no matter who plays on their team. I'm a lifelong fan and don't plan to change that.


Thanks for the statement el jefe... I feel exactly the same... I didn't jump ship when Deion signed on and I don't plan on doing it if TO winds up here either.

[WV Cowboy]

And I think it is pathetic to proceed with a win at all cost mentality!

That is what Philly did and most everyone on this board laughed at them and what most everyone predicted would happen did. But somehow BP, who could not even tame a nobody like Antonio Bryant is going to keep TO in check. Please!!
Nobody is saying win at all costs.

Do you think Parcells would bring him in here while still thinking or fearing that Owens would bring the organization down ?

Not gonna happen.

If Owens ends up here, he will be under Parcells thumb before he signs the papers.

And I get tired of reading posts that say Parcells couldn't handle AB.
Trust me, Parcells could handle AB, he just decided AB wasn't worth the headache.

He wasn't productive enough on the field to have to put up with his crap.

Relax man, if Parcells thinks he can work with Owens, everything will be ok.
If not, he won't end up here anyway.

[Dallas22]

Without question I would cheer for my 'Boys, even with T.O. We, as fans, can't decide whom Jerry Jones decides to bring on to the Cowboys. So if T.O. ends up playing with us next season, so be it... I won't like it, but what else can I do? If T.O. scores a TD, then I will be VERY happy because our team scored... or because our team won.

You still need a total of 50+ players to help you win games, it's not all on one player. I don't have to like the guy, but I wil always cheer for the Cowboys.

I just hope that no TRUE Cowboy fans would EVEN think about buying T.O.'s jersey if he played with the Cowboys next season.

GO COWBOYS!!!

Dallas22

[Trip]

I think it's funny that people hate TO with so much passion. I wonder if the massive media hype on his antics doesn't ramp up the level of dislike for the guy. Don't get me wrong I'm not defending him or his actions. But I do think Bill Parcells has it right when he refused comment on TO or how the Eagles were handling things saying "I'm not there. In not on the inside of that- I don't know the player and I don't know what led up to what the Eagles did". Yet to read the level of hate from some posters you'd think the guy was Charles Manson and that we as real outsiders know all the facts.

It's true Owens has said some really dumb things, that much we do know. He may not be that bright or maybe he's just nuts, who can say? Listening to Drew Rosenhaus tell him he would get him a new contract was probably his biggest mistake since that set the rest of the events that followed in motion. Would he be as annoying here? Would he be a cancer? Is he just a bad guy? I'll defer to Bill Parcells judgement on that. Because I have great confidence Parcells will look at that situation carefully and get all the facts before he brought him to Dallas. IBWT. If Bill brings him in, then he's got my support.

Exactly.

There's a lot of people armed at the ready to make a stand against TO, and any of the low-life, low-principle fans that would dare suggest he might be a bargain if there was coach that could straighten him out.

Whatever.

The Dallas Cowboys have had a number of CRIMINALS that have played football for the team throughout history. Crimes ranging from exposing one's self to a minor, to inhaling cocaine in front of millions watching on TV have been committed by those we've cheered for, while we've been fans of the team.

TO is a loud mouthed idiot.

You guys ready to make a stand, and not buy any tickets or disown the team can do as you choose, but I'll bet you've unknowingly cheered for, and in many cases forgave a lot worse than TO over the years.

[nathanlt]

If you can't draw the line somewhere as to who you won't root for on your team, then you have no concept of keeping a good team image, and a cohesive locker room atmosphere! This next little sports call is for you.

Sportsline, the Dallas Cowboys have signed and thawed out a cryogenically frozen, and steriod abusing Adolf Hitler, a WR absolutely KILLING over in NFL Europe, with a 4.0 second 40 time, towering at 6'5" and lean cut 240 pounds. He is an absolute talent with some amazing moves and hands. However there are SOME concerns over unnamed off the field issues.

Gameday, Super Bowl Sunday.

First down and ten now, the Cowboys pinned on their 8 yard line. .... Bledsoe drops back..... It's a slant over the MIDDLE!!! CAUGHT, ADOLF!!! He'sbreakingaway253040MIDFIELD!HE'SGOTONEMANTOBEAT !! IT'SAFOOTRACE,HE'SSTREAKINGUPTHESIDELINE!! NOONECANCATCHHIMNOW!! 25,20,10,5,TOUCHDOWN!! ADOLF HITLER!! ADOLF..HIEL...HITLER!! The crowd is chanting now, ADOLF! ADOLF!ADOLF!!ADOLF!!

DEFINITELY ONE OF THE GREATEST DALLAS COWBOYS EVER, SHOULD BE A LOCK FOR THE RING OF HONOR!

:puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph:


Or, maybe character and being a team CANCER does matter.

[Trip]

Funny, but.....TO is a closer match to Keyshawn Johnson than Adolph Hitler I do believe.

[nathanlt]

Funny, but.....TO is a closer match to Keyshawn Johnson than Adolph Hitler I do believe.

I would say T.O. is a closer match to Bill Romanowski, but a lot worse! Most of that previous post is just to blow off a little steam. This is mostly a dead issue now, THANKFULLY!!!

[LaTunaNostra]

If you can't draw the line somewhere as to who you won't root for on your team, then you have no concept of keeping a good team image, and a cohesive locker room atmosphere! This next little sports call is for you.

Sportsline, the Dallas Cowboys have signed and thawed out a cryogencially frozen, and steriod abusing Adolf Hitler, a WR absolutely KILLING over in NFL Europe, with a 4.0 second 40 time, towering at 6'5" and lean cut 240 pounds. He is an absolute talent with some amazing moves and hands.

Gameday, Super Bowl Sunday.

First down and ten now, the Cowboys pinned on their 8 yard line. .... Bledsoe drops back..... It's a slant over the MIDDLE!!! CAUGHT, ADOLF!!! He'sbreakingaway253040MIDFIELD!HE'SGOTONEMANTOBEAT !! IT'SAFOOTRACE,HE'SSTREAKINGUPTHESIDELINE!! NOONECANCATCHHIM!! 25,20,10,5,TOUCHDOWN!! ADOLF HITLER!! ADOLF..HIEL...HITLER!! The crowd is chanting now, ADOLF! ADOLF!ADOLF!!ADOLF!!

DEFINITELY ONE OF THE GREATEST DALLAS COWBOYS EVER, SHOULD BE A LOCK FOR THE RING OF HONOR!

:puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph: :puke: :ralph:


Or, maybe character does matter.
That's flat out hilarious, but come on...we won't have careened out of control down the slippery slope until we start nodding 'yes' to the Carruths and OJs.

TO's a wacko cancer, but he is just too far from genocide to make the Adolph analogy stick. :D I think most folks can still easily draw the morality line between outrageous ego/selfishness and pure evil.

The problem with TO is that we can't be sure if he CAN be handled by a Parcells type coach, or if he is so disturbed, no one could control him, including himself.

I think it's the latter - he is well beyond Bill's capability and willingness range - but I can sure see why others hope it's the former.

[Trip]

Okay,but Romo is a cheater. Criminals and cheaters are best compared to criminals and cheaters.

Is someone who runs his mouth and says stupid things and brags about himself and does dumb little dances in the end zone and sometimes talks bad about his teammates, as bad as criminals and cheaters?

You want to say TO is bad for team chemistry and he could rip the team apart and it's a huge risk to take the guy on, that's fine and I agree, but when someone questions the moral ethics of those that mention it, that's pretty funny.

We're not talking about signing O.J. Simpson.

And you're right, it's a dead issue now. Bring on Denver!

[Juke99]

99.9% of the people saying they would no longer be Cowboy fans if TO comes to town are just blowing off steam......talking to hear their head rattle. etc. When push came to shove they would be there rooting for the Cowboys just like they always were.

As for me, being the cranky old bastid I am, I would moan and groan for a week or two, be a pain in the butt on the board, pick a few fights with juke but in the end I would be there rooting for my boyz. The Cowboys have been a big part of life for too long to change alliances now.

and this is different from now, how? :D

[Cbz40]

and this is different from now, how? :D

Well juke it was like this......I couldn't think of anything else to say....so I told the truth.... :D

[Wolverine]

I would say T.O. is a closer match to Bill Romanowski, but a lot worse! Most of that previous post is just to blow off a little steam. This is mostly a dead issue now, THANKFULLY!!!



Really. T.O. worse then Romanowski. Wow get me the link where he did something worse to a teammate then smashing in the side of his face with 1 hit like Romo did to his teammate.



I have a good idea. Those who say they will not be Cowboy fans if T.O. is signed or not watch or back the team. How about this. If we sign T.O. we just ban them from the forum until T.O. is done in Dallas. Really. If they back their talk they should have no problem with this since they wont be Cowboy fans anymore.

[SuspectCorner]

heck yeah i'm gonna root for TO if he's a Cowboy. that's the easy part.

picturing Parells as being sold on that gold-plated turd? well that's a different story....

[ka0tik]

I have a good idea. Those who say they will not be Cowboy fans if T.O. is signed or not watch or back the team. How about this. If we sign T.O. we just ban them from the forum until T.O. is done in Dallas. Really. If they back their talk they should have no problem with this since they wont be Cowboy fans anymore.

..LMFAO!! Excellent Idea, anyone wanna get temporarily Banned?:laugh1:

[Juke99]

Well juke it was like this......I couldn't think of anything else to say....so I told the truth.... :D


Ok well at least this is different