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trickblue
11-29-2005, 08:49 AM
Link (http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/sports/football/nfl/carolina_panthers/13279578.htm)

Sparks from Specter in the T.O. case
The senator says the NFL and the Eagles may have violated antitrust laws in punishing the wide receiver.
By Amy Worden and Larry Eichel

Sen. Arlen Specter, ardent Eagles fan and chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, yesterday accused the NFL and its Philadelphia franchise of potentially violating antitrust laws in their treatment of Terrell Owens.

Speaking at a news conference in Harrisburg, Specter (R., Pa.) said he was investigating the matter and might refer it to the Senate panel's antitrust subcommittee.

The senator said the league and the Eagles had effectively blacklisted the all-pro wide receiver by forbidding him from playing and by banning other teams from talking to him. He called such treatment "vindictive and inappropriate."

"It's a restraint of trade for them to do that, and the thought crosses my mind, it might be a violation of antitrust laws," Specter said. "The NFL can have whatever rules it wants on authorizing suspension or keeping you on the team for the balance of the year, but they can't violate the law."

Several legal experts consulted yesterday didn't see it that way. They noted that courts generally have held that collective-bargaining agreements - such as the one under which Owens was disciplined - take precedence over antitrust laws on terms of employment.

"As much as I hate to disagree with the esteemed senator, I don't see an antitrust claim here," said Matthew J. Mitten, director of the National Sports Law Institute at Marquette University. "We're in the labor arena, not antitrust."

On Nov. 5, the Eagles suspended Owens for four games without pay for conduct "detrimental to the team." The team also made clear its intention to deactivate him with pay after the suspension ended, as it did this past Sunday.

Last week, arbitrator Richard Bloch upheld the team's right to do all of that, saying those steps were in keeping with the labor agreement between the league and the NFL Players Association.

An NFL spokesman commented yesterday that it was "difficult to see" how antitrust laws might have been violated.

Said league spokesman Greg Aiello: "The arbitrator's decision is consistent with our collective-bargaining agreement, and it simply enforced the terms of the player's contract."

Specter said his interest in the antitrust issue was piqued by news yesterday that the Eagles had filed a complaint with the NFL against Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones.

The complaint accused Jones of "tampering" with Owens' contract by making comments suggesting that the Cowboys might consider signing him.

"I am madder than hell at what he [Owens] has done in ruining the Eagles' season, or doing his utmost to ruin the season," Specter said. "I think he's in flagrant breach of his contract, and the Eagles would be in their rights to not pay him another dime, perhaps even sue him for damages they have sustained.

"But I do not believe, personally, it is appropriate to punish him. He's not committed a crime; he's committed a breach of contract."

Specter added that the NFL has only a limited exemption from antitrust laws, one that allows member teams to share revenues.

But the law professors who study antitrust law and its relation to sports said they were hard-pressed to see what those statutes might have to do with the Owens case.

"To have an antitrust violation, you have a contract or conspiracy in restraint of trade," said Robert McCormick, a law professor at Michigan State University. "The Eagles would have to collude with the 31 other teams to make sure that no one would hire Terrell Owens. And we're not there yet."

If an antitrust issue did exist, the experts said, the contract still would almost surely trump it - under what the courts have established as the "non-statutory labor exemption" to the antitrust laws.

That exemption was at the heart of the federal court decision last year in the case of Maurice Clarett, a former Ohio State University running back who challenged the NFL's rule about when a player is old enough to enter the draft. The court disallowed Clarett's challenge on the grounds that the league and union had established the rule through collective bargaining.

Michael McCann, a sports-law expert at Mississippi College Law School, said the ambiguity of the NFL's collective-bargaining agreement - in not specifying any detailed meaning of conduct "detrimental to the team" - might allow antitrust laws to apply.

The Eagles had no comment on Specter's remarks. Owens and his agent, Drew Rosenhaus, were not available for comment.

Richmond Cowboy
11-29-2005, 08:58 AM
I knew we would all pay for the TO saga eventually, what worthwhile use of our tax dollars...:rolleyes:

kartr
11-29-2005, 09:29 AM
Specter is absolutely right. The Eagles are trying have their cake and eat it too. We have right to work laws in this country. If your employer has a problem with your work, they have the right to suspend you temporarily before restoring you to your duties or terminating you out right. They have no right to prohibit you from working indefinitely for them or anyone else. They are reinforcing to me why they have never won a superbowl and never will. They are petty, greedy and cheap and creating a contentious and unfriendly environment for their employees. It would not surprise me if a mass exodus of good players from that organization occurred. I don't support everything that TO has said and done, but he is not all wrong and they're not all right either. Many players in the organization who are 'quality people' support TO and Cory Simon and Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent are good guys that they played hard ball with and it will cost them dearly.

joseephuss
11-29-2005, 09:34 AM
Specter is absolutely right. The Eagles are trying have their cake and eat it too. We have right to work laws in this country. If your employer has a problem with your work, they have the right to suspend you temporarily before restoring you to your duties or terminating you out right. They have no right to prohibit you from working indefinitely for them or anyone else. They are reinforcing to me why they have never won a superbowl and never will. They are petty, greedy and cheap and creating a contentious and unfriendly environment for their employees. It would not surprise me if a mass exodus of good players from that organization occurred. I don't support everything that TO has said and done, but he is not all wrong and they're not all right either. Many players in the organization who are 'quality people' support TO and Cory Simon and Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent are good guys that they played hard ball with and it will cost them dearly.

He will be paid. As long as he is paid, then the employer has every right to keep him away from the office. The employer has a right to do what his best for the business. Paying a single employee to stay away is not out of line. People get suspended with pay quite often in the business world.

I do agree that the Eagles do some things that will keep them from winning it all, but they also do some things that have kept them near the top of the NFL the last several seasons.

burmafrd
11-29-2005, 09:40 AM
Good God. this is not a day laborer here- this guy MAKES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR. EVEN NOW. He is getting his money- he is just being prevented from messing up the TEAM - remember that - then he already has.
Not suprised our Q man lover would support TO.

rcaldw
11-29-2005, 09:53 AM
Is it just me, or is anyone else tired of the guys we pay to run the country as our representatives spending their time in the sports arena?

Leave baseball alone
Leave football alone
Leave hockey and basketball alone

And stay in the realm of politics please.

I swear I think these guys must get bored or something.

conner01
11-29-2005, 09:55 AM
spector is an idiot. how is it an anti trust violation if they are paying him? t.o. gets paid the same thing he would have gotten if he was playing. if you don't take away the money then there is no violation. the last thing we need is stupid politician getting involved in sports.i wish i could get suspened from work but still get paid.

wileedog
11-29-2005, 09:56 AM
We have right to work laws in this country.

:lmao2:

Owens is being paid millions of dollars to stay home.

I'd like to have a legal right to that kind of work.

And BTW, if Owens really concerned about "putting food on the table for his family", there is absolutely nothing stopping him from flipping burgers for the next couple months until the season ends.

Rack Bauer
11-29-2005, 09:57 AM
:lmao2:

Owens is being paid millions of dollars to stay home.

I'd like to have a legal right to that kind of work.


:hammer:


Can I get an 'Amen'?

Hiero
11-29-2005, 10:04 AM
Nice a taste of their own medicine. I hope they fire Reid.

NotReally
11-29-2005, 10:12 AM
Soooooo, if my employer says "Go home and I'll pay you your regular salary for doing no work whatsover" that's not only PUNISHING ME, but rises to the level of an anti-trust violation???? LOL! What a joke!!!

kartr
11-29-2005, 10:37 AM
Soooooo, if my employer says "Go home and I'll pay you your regular salary for doing no work whatsover" that's not only PUNISHING ME, but rises to the level of an anti-trust violation???? LOL! What a joke!!!

You're missing the point. If your employer would pay you for no work, which he wouldn't, so it's a moot point. But you could just resign and go work for someone else and do the work you want to do. By not allowing him to play NFL football period, they are in effect blacklisting him from an industry. If he had gambled or stole or some kind of criminal offense especially pertaining to the industry, then they would have justification. They are in effect 'blacklisting' him because they don't like his attitude, not his work. That's the difference.

kartr
11-29-2005, 10:40 AM
:lmao2:

Owens is being paid millions of dollars to stay home.

I'd like to have a legal right to that kind of work.

And BTW, if Owens really concerned about "putting food on the table for his family", there is absolutely nothing stopping him from flipping burgers for the next couple months until the season ends.

You're just a regular guy, your boss could replace you in a heart beat. Owens is an elite athlete. You can't compare yourself to him, that's the real joke. Less than 2000 people in the country are professional athletes and Owens is considered a top ten NFL player, that's a big difference.

kartr
11-29-2005, 10:46 AM
Good God. this is not a day laborer here- this guy MAKES MILLIONS OF DOLLARS A YEAR. EVEN NOW. He is getting his money- he is just being prevented from messing up the TEAM - remember that - then he already has.
Not suprised our Q man lover would support TO.

Your Q man lover crack is out of whack. Mariuchi got his walking papers yesterday because he didn't have a decent QB on his team. QC played twice against Mariuchi's teams and had qb ratings over 100 both times, so he could have helped save Mariuchi's no-coaching butt, and Mariuchi will be joined by more coaches getting the ax because of faulty qb play, and they all will deserve it.

kartr
11-29-2005, 10:48 AM
He will be paid. As long as he is paid, then the employer has every right to keep him away from the office. The employer has a right to do what his best for the business. Paying a single employee to stay away is not out of line. People get suspended with pay quite often in the business world.

I do agree that the Eagles do some things that will keep them from winning it all, but they also do some things that have kept them near the top of the NFL the last several seasons.

Under the circumstances, TO should have the right to resign his position as you or I would and go work somewhere else. It's not all about getting paid.

blindzebra
11-29-2005, 11:19 AM
But were Owens and Rosenhaus brought down by a single bullet or was Jerry shooting from the grassy knoll.:D

Jarv
11-29-2005, 11:35 AM
Under the circumstances, TO should have the right to resign his position as you or I would and go work somewhere else. It's not all about getting paid.

You can't rsign from a position when you have a contract. Thats different from working a MacDonalds where you are hired but do not get a "Contract"...Different situations.

Now, TO signed a contract for x amount of years at a certain salary each year. He was also given a 7 figure bonus to supplement the salary over the x amount of years.

I don't know the exact numbers, but for example it lets say it was 10 million over 5 years for the bonus.

Thats 2 million a year. He played last year and the Eagles will pay him for this year.

So, I he wants to resign AFTER getting the signing bonus, then I think he should have every right also. Just give back the remaining 6 million for the 3 years left on your contract (2 million/year x 3 years).

I'm sure the Eagles would let him resign if he did that. Of course, that would still hurt the Eagles on the cap numbers.

Everyone knows TO wants to get released and keep the 6 million, that is the problem.

StanleySpadowski
11-29-2005, 11:44 AM
But were Owens and Rosenhaus brought down by a single bullet or was Jerry shooting from the grassy knoll.:D


I think that the ultimate answer is "not proven".

VACowboy
11-29-2005, 12:07 PM
Owens IS working. He's just doing it from home. The Eagles want him to sit on his couch. He's being well-paid to do so.

TruBlueCowboy
11-29-2005, 12:10 PM
Boy.... Ralph Nader tried to get involved, Jesse Jackson showed up for the party, and now Senator Spector is grabbing the headlines. They went crazy about steroids in baseball too. If only our political leaders could take real issues this serious. We could have world peace tomorrow if leaders thought their team's success was at stake.

burmafrd
11-29-2005, 12:20 PM
TO wants to keep all his bonus- that is the big rub. The piece of scum should be tossed out and FORCED to pay back the bonus.

rickwil61
11-29-2005, 12:24 PM
I vote that we tell the politicians to stay home. Heck I'd even consider giving them their salary if they would just keep their nose out of things they don't belong in. Seriously, the government does not need to get involved in sports. There is no national security issue here although we must admit that a Cowboy win is good for the country. ;-) The only reason they are concerned is that there is an opportunity for a spotlight and photo op.

bbgun
11-29-2005, 01:25 PM
Specter is nuts if he thinks his constituents are pining for TO's reinstatement.

joseephuss
11-29-2005, 01:35 PM
Under the circumstances, TO should have the right to resign his position as you or I would and go work somewhere else. It's not all about getting paid.

Like you hinted at earlier. The NFL isn't the real world. He has the right to resign from his team. Any player has that right. It is called retirement. You know why players can't just resign from their teams ike the real world. They agreed in the collective bargaining agreement. All sports leagues have the same system. It would be pretty ridiculous if any and all players could just quit the team they are on and go to the next franchise and play for them. It is something that has to be put in place to make sports work. All the players know this when they enter the league.

Perhaps it is an exception to the real world, but at the same time the real world uses it as well. There are clauses in contracts of every day people that allow them to quit their jobs as long as they don't go to a competive company in their industry until a certain amount of time has gone by.

And by the way, you would waste the Cowboys 2006 season if you cut all three QBs and signed Quincy and Joey. Quincy couldn't play because he would be suspended. Joey would have to start and learn a new system. A system that is geared to a QB with a strong arm, which Joey does not have. And there would be no back up. I respect that you are a Quincy homer, but let a little dose of reality seep in when you are evaluating what is best for the team next season.

blindzebra
11-29-2005, 01:39 PM
I think that the ultimate answer is "not proven".

Which magic bullet are we reffering to, Philly or JFK?

Specter got the first one right.:D

trickblue
11-29-2005, 01:52 PM
Which magic bullet are we reffering to, Philly or JFK?

Specter got the first one right.:D

What would you suspect from a "One Gunman" theorist on the Warren Commission... ;)

conner01
11-29-2005, 02:57 PM
if a player who did'nt like not being a starter, or the playing time he gets could resign then contracts would mean nothing. t.o. signed a contract for X amount of dollars for X amount of time. it says nowhere in his contract he will start,be active, or even have the right to show up for games. it gives him X amount of dollars for X amount of time.your theory would totally destroy pro sports if player had the right to just resign and go free

kartr
11-29-2005, 02:58 PM
Like you hinted at earlier. The NFL isn't the real world. He has the right to resign from his team. Any player has that right. It is called retirement. You know why players can't just resign from their teams ike the real world. They agreed in the collective bargaining agreement. All sports leagues have the same system. It would be pretty ridiculous if any and all players could just quit the team they are on and go to the next franchise and play for them. It is something that has to be put in place to make sports work. All the players know this when they enter the league.

Perhaps it is an exception to the real world, but at the same time the real world uses it as well. There are clauses in contracts of every day people that allow them to quit their jobs as long as they don't go to a competive company in their industry until a certain amount of time has gone by.

And by the way, you would waste the Cowboys 2006 season if you cut all three QBs and signed Quincy and Joey. Quincy couldn't play because he would be suspended. Joey would have to start and learn a new system. A system that is geared to a QB with a strong arm, which Joey does not have. And there would be no back up. I respect that you are a Quincy homer, but let a little dose of reality seep in when you are evaluating what is best for the team next season.

When was Quincy suspended? Even Joey's meager talents are better than our current backups. Joey will find a job somewhere as a backup next year, but neither Henson or Romo would be able find work. Do you really believe that Romo's arm is stronger than Harrington's?

joseephuss
11-29-2005, 03:01 PM
When was Quincy suspended? Even Joey's meager talents are better than our current backups. Joey will find a job somewhere as a backup next year, but neither Henson or Romo would be able find work. Do you really believe that Romo's arm is stronger than Harrington's?

I didn't say he was suspended. He will be suspended if any team signs him.

kartr
11-29-2005, 03:07 PM
Like you hinted at earlier. The NFL isn't the real world. He has the right to resign from his team. Any player has that right. It is called retirement. You know why players can't just resign from their teams ike the real world. They agreed in the collective bargaining agreement. All sports leagues have the same system. It would be pretty ridiculous if any and all players could just quit the team they are on and go to the next franchise and play for them. It is something that has to be put in place to make sports work. All the players know this when they enter the league.

Perhaps it is an exception to the real world, but at the same time the real world uses it as well. There are clauses in contracts of every day people that allow them to quit their jobs as long as they don't go to a competive company in their industry until a certain amount of time has gone by.

And by the way, you would waste the Cowboys 2006 season if you cut all three QBs and signed Quincy and Joey. Quincy couldn't play because he would be suspended. Joey would have to start and learn a new system. A system that is geared to a QB with a strong arm, which Joey does not have. And there would be no back up. I respect that you are a Quincy homer, but let a little dose of reality seep in when you are evaluating what is best for the team next season.

One way contracts are no contracts at all. The way the Eagles are running things with their vindictive agenda against TO, it's created negative sentiment against their management by the players. They'll have trouble keeping their better players and won't be able to attract quality free-agents because of their hard-line attitude. The players are fully aware that they are the product the NFL is selling and those organizations who are player friendly will be the ones everyone wants to play for.

joseephuss
11-29-2005, 03:10 PM
One way contracts are no contracts at all. The way the Eagles are running things with their vindictive agenda against TO, it's created negative sentiment against their management by the players. They'll have trouble keeping their better players and won't be able to attract quality free-agents because of their hard-line attitude. The players are fully aware that they are the product the NFL is selling and those organizations who are player friendly will be the ones everyone wants to play for.

What is so hard lined about not wanting to renegotiate a contract after only one season? I think players would lose respect for management if they saw them doing that. It would also show heavy favoritism, which can be devisive. They were able to renegotiate with Westbrook. I don't see any problems with letting high priced veterans such as Vincent and Taylor walk and keeping younger talented guys. Every good team does that.

wileedog
11-29-2005, 04:22 PM
One way contracts are no contracts at all. The way the Eagles are running things with their vindictive agenda against TO, it's created negative sentiment against their management by the players. They'll have trouble keeping their better players and won't be able to attract quality free-agents because of their hard-line attitude. The players are fully aware that they are the product the NFL is selling and those organizations who are player friendly will be the ones everyone wants to play for.

Yeah, the player rebellion was quite frightful in Tampa when they did the same thing to Keyshawn two years ago.

Oh wait, no it wasn't. In fact nobody gave a s***.

trickblue
11-29-2005, 04:25 PM
Yeah, the player rebellion was quite frightful in Tampa when they did the same thing to Keyshawn two years ago.

Oh wait, no it wasn't. In fact nobody gave a s***.

:hammer: