Marion Barber

[Maikeru-sama]

Hard to tell this kid is a rookie.

[Maikeru-sama]

Not sure why Julius is in the game for goal line. Makes no sense.

[jimmy40]

Not sure why Julius is in the game for goal line. Makes no sense.Hard to tell why he's ever in the game.

[burmafrd]

Short yardage on the goal line is the best place for Barber.

[Chocolate Lab]

Not sure why Julius is in the game for goal line. Makes no sense.
Radio said MB3 got knocked a little looney on that sideline tackle... Maybe that's why.

I hope that's the reason anyway, because I've seen enough of Julius' toe-dipping for a while.

[JohnsKey19]

Barber is big time. Gotta use him more

[burmafrd]

It seems to vary game to game- one back does good in one game, the other in the next game. So long as one is doing good, we are ok. Now if the O line could just block a little better.......

[Cbz40]

Barber may have been hurt on the out of bounds run.....?????

[Reality]

Hard to tell why he's ever in the game.I agree .. Barber runs harder, gets extra yards even when tackled and doesn't go down on arm tackles.

[TruBlueCowboy]

I have been on the marion barber bandwagon since day one. Don't know why more people haven't criticized Parcells for playing Julius as much as he has. I think everyone still clings on to their #22/#21 comparisons from last year. Bottomline, Barber gets the job done, Julius doesn't.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

:)

Go dad

[lane]

marion barber is better than julius....plain and simple

[burmafrd]

I dispute that MB is better then a 100% healthy JJ; but he is good. But he is getting a lot of run calls on the draw, which was JJ's bread and butter last year. JJ is hardly getting the draw at all. WHY?

[jimmy40]

I dispute that MB is better then a 100% healthy JJ; but he is good. But he is getting a lot of run calls on the draw, which was JJ's bread and butter last year. JJ is hardly getting the draw at all. WHY?Because when the defense exhales Julius falls over.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I dispute that MB is better then a 100% healthy JJ; but he is good. But he is getting a lot of run calls on the draw, which was JJ's bread and butter last year. JJ is hardly getting the draw at all. WHY?

Man, youve been anti MB3 for a while. Hes a tough runner and he was clutch, be happy

[Da Hammer]

It really is time for Barber to become the starter. We just simply run the ball better when he is in

[Maikeru-sama]

My goodness.

Bill Parcells has done it again. Has found another solid NFL back.

This guy could be a Bryan Westbrook with alot better running skills.

- Mike G.

[jimmy40]

I think everyone still clings on to their #22/#21 comparisons from last year. Bottomline, Barber gets the job done, Julius doesn't. :bow: I never understood why people acted like Julius averaged 6 yards per carry last year.

[jlust22]

Give me Barber any day over Julius. He hits the hole harder, always falls forward and shows more explosion than JJ has this year. He deserves to get more carries than JJ. I don't know what more people need to see to realize that Barber is the more effective RB.

[FLCowboyFan]

I dispute that MB is better then a 100% healthy JJ; but he is good. But he is getting a lot of run calls on the draw, which was JJ's bread and butter last year. JJ is hardly getting the draw at all. WHY?

I'm sorry but I will go with production. I said it a couple of weeks ago and I'll say it again. JJ is supposed to be the guy and Barber looks much better. When/If JJ comes back and looks like he did last year then I say give him the ball. Until then I say we go with the horse that is pulling the sled.

[FLCowboyFan]

Give me Barber any day over Julius. He hits the hole harder, always falls forward and shows more explosion than JJ has this year. He deserves to get more carries than JJ. I don't know what more people need to see to realize that Barber is the more effective RB.

I agree Barber is doing much better but JJ would have broken that long run for a touch down if he would have broken the hole that Barber did. The question is whether JJ would have broke through like Barber did. Barber is missing the speed but nothing else that I can see!

[JonJon]

Well, considering the number of games that Julius has missed, Barber may have more experience than JJ right now.

[Martice]

I'm sorry but I will go with production. I said it a couple of weeks ago and I'll say it again. JJ is supposed to be the guy and Barber looks much better. When/If JJ comes back and looks like he did last year then I say give him the ball. Until then I say we go with the horse that is pulling the sled.

Simply put. Nothing more to add.

Go MB!!!

[Sitting Bull]

Julius isn't the same back he was late last year, but c'mon- It's not like he's Eddie George. I'm willing to let him have a few more games to work himself back into form.
Parcells obviously sees something in starting Jones over Barber- that's good enough for me for now. Barber IS, however, rounding into a dangerous Preston Pearson type out of the backfield.

[Juke99]

Interesting twist though when Parcells has both of them in the backfield at the same time...

[Martice]

Julius would not have made the plays that MB made as well. Especially the pass catches late in the 4th qtr.

[burmafrd]

When you are behind and have to pass, then MB should be in since he is a better receiver. But ahealthy JJ is the more dangerous RB. THose draw plays that barber did well on JJ would do better.

[MarionBarberThe4th]

I say next year JJ drops 15 pounds. Let him play at his natural weight. He gained the weight bc we werent sure what we had behind him. Now we know we got a solid tough runner and a great reciever/blocker

then give them each 15 carries each.

JJ at last years weight could take 15 a game.
HE just looks unnatural this bulky

JJ would be jukey JJ again


Thunder and lightning next year

[Gaede]

I like Julius alot and think he is a star.

But he's not working with this line and Barber is.

So we should go with what works. Thing I like best about Barber is he seems to play hard all the time.

[burmafrd]

I am thinking that having them BOTH in the backfield at the same time may actually be the way to go. Its not like Polite is all that much of a lead blocker for the running game, and JJ and MB are both better at everything else then he is.

[jbsg02]

I'm starting to think that Barber could be the permanent starter over Julius now. After watching his 8 games last season, we were ready to put Julius up there with Emmitt and Dorsett.

[JohnsKey19]

When you are behind and have to pass, then MB should be in since he is a better receiver. But ahealthy JJ is the more dangerous RB. THose draw plays that barber did well on JJ would do better.


OK ALREADY! He runs the draw better. It's one stinkin' play. If it really is that obvious to you that his best play, and frankly only effective play, is the draw, don't you think opposing defensive coordinators know this as well and gameplan it specifically for Jones????

The fact of the matter is Barber does more things better than Jones. More complete RB period. That does not mean Jones cant play and cant be a part of the offense. He can. I just think we need to feature Barber more.

[ConcordCowboy]

marion barber is better than julius....plain and simple

Yep...I really love the way Barber catches passes and does things with them!

[ghst187]

Give me Barber any day over Julius. He hits the hole harder, always falls forward and shows more explosion than JJ has this year. He deserves to get more carries than JJ. I don't know what more people need to see to realize that Barber is the more effective RB.

me too, the big key is that MBIII catches the ball VERY well also, something JJ doesn't do so well. JJ can catch it, but he almost has to stop his momentum to do it, it just isn't natural for him. MBIII also does all the things better than JJ that you mentioned above.

[wldcowbyfan]

mb3 look absolutly fantastic tonight he keeps playing like that and JJ is in trouble

[lane]

I like Julius alot and think he is a star.

But he's not working with this line and Barber is.

So we should go with what works. Thing I like best about Barber is he seems to play hard all the time.


ding ding!!
lights flashing!!
sirens wailing!!


tell him what he's won johnny!!

[DallasDomination]

Need I say more?

[burmafrd]

You guys are doing with MB exactly what we did with JJ last year. Interesting,isn't it?

[Billy Bullocks]

Honestly, I dont see a problem having both these guys. Its not a bad deal what so ever.

[DallasDomination]

Julius jukes the first guy pretty good but after that he hits the pile head down not giving a damn.



Barber on the other hand runs with his head up, eyes open, cuting, breaking, diving, what ever it takes to get those deserved yards.


In lames terms he runs harder.

If I had to pick a RB right now it would be Barber hands down.....

[JohnsKey19]

You guys are doing with MB exactly what we did with JJ last year. Interesting,isn't it?


No. Noone here is comparing Barber to Dorsett or Emmitt Smith. All we're saying is that Barber is performing the best at RB this year. That's all that matters. I could care less which one it is. Just play the guy that is more effective. And that guy appears tro be MB3.

[burmafrd]

Last week it was JJ. This week it was MB. BP appears to go with who has the hot hand.

[SuspectCorner]

barber is the tougher back and better receiver - but julius is easily the more explosive of the two. "thunder and lightning" - if the cowboys ever assemble a good O-line (which they will) they will be one of the most dynamic running teams in all of football. i like the quandry they will be facing. most teams will wish they had such decisions to make.

next year we will average around 36, 37 minutes TOP per game. and that's established dominance. powerball, babeeeeeee.

[Cowboy Lover]

Try to be objective, no matter your preconcieved preference.


Barber looks faster and gets more yards more often.

[Wolverine]

Hard to tell this kid is a rookie.


When we drafted Barber I wont forget what it said on his scout report. Said he has what it takes to be a solid starting RB in the NFL. With the problems the OL has had this year Barber has been very good. He averaged over 5 yards a carry today.

My thinking is when we improve the OL we could have something special in Barber. He has uhhh...IT I guess.

I also think if it is decided next year he is our starter he can go into games thinking as a starter which will help him even more.

[goshan]

Dynamic running teams in football?
Are you kidding?

Our stable of running backs is in the lower half of the league -- probably the botton 10.

MBIII is a complementary back with well-rounded skills, but the fact is he is playing the best of any of our RB isn't a good thing. It means we have mediocre talent at the position -- because Jones has been so disappointing this year.

[alancdc]

I have said all year that MBIII runs harder than JJ. That is why we should have given him the ball on 3rd and 1 last week. He gets the tough yards.

[Wolverine]

Dynamic running teams in football?
Are you kidding?

Our stable of running backs is in the lower half of the league -- probably the botton 10.

MBIII is a complementary back with well-rounded skills, but the fact is he is playing the best of any of our RB isn't a good thing. It means we have mediocre talent at the position -- because Jones has been so disappointing this year.


I disagree with you on Barber. I think when our OL is improved next year there will be quite a few teams kicking themselves and askin how they passed on Barber.

Give Barber next year and I bet he runs for 1000-1200 yards.

[cowboyskid29]

julius just isn't the same back he was last year, but the o-line is pathetic. marion barber has more power than julius and when marion barber gets hit at the line of scrimage he can pick up 2-3 more yards after contact, but if we had at least a decent o-line julius would have more holes and he is great at making guys miss in the open field, but the fact is our o-line sucks and julius never has holes to go anywhere except backwards.

anyway great win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Natedawg44]

I have seen nothing to think that Barber doesn't have a bright future. He could very well be a player like Domanick Davis. I agree I think he has 1200 yard talent. Who knows with JJ (injury, added weight, added pressure) maybe all of the above. All I know is if Parcells likes a back Jerry better move heaven and earth to get them i.e. Rudi Johnson, Larry Johnson and now with Marion Barber.

[jcblanco22]

I say next year JJ drops 15 pounds. Let him play at his natural weight. He gained the weight bc we werent sure what we had behind him. Now we know we got a solid tough runner and a great reciever/blocker

then give them each 15 carries each.

JJ at last years weight could take 15 a game.
HE just looks unnatural this bulky

JJ would be jukey JJ again


Thunder and lightning next year

Am I alone in thinking that JJ's ankle continues to (silently) be a problem? Something tells me that Julius has been playing in pain and not uttering a word, like a good soldier. Yes, the OL has often been crummy in front of him, but I see a half-step slower RB this year as compared to last, and I think it's the ankle and not the added weight.

[Cbz40]

Am I alone in thinking that JJ's ankle continues to (silently) be a problem?Truth be told, I think Julius has been playing hurt and in pain and not uttering a word like a good soldier. Yes, the OL has often been crummy in front of him, but I see a half-step slower RB this year as compared to last, and I think it's the ankle and not the added weight.


No Sir you are not alone in your thinking.......a high ankle sprain takes a long while to heal.

[DallasKnight]

I have slowly begun to believe in MBIII. I still think JJ isn't playing at 100 percent and is playing scared (like he might get hurt on each and every play). Props to MBIII for todays performance. It's nice to have 2 horses in the stable, regardless of who's better than the other. When have we been able to say that in awhile?

[Maikeru-sama]

I am not ready to shut the door on old Julius Jones yet. Dude could be hurt or maybe Parcells' mental games have gotten to him.

His catching ability offsets Julius Jones' big play potential

Right now you gotta roll with Barber.

- Mike G.

[YN1SCOTT]

I have been on the marion barber bandwagon since day one. Don't know why more people haven't criticized Parcells for playing Julius as much as he has. I think everyone still clings on to their #22/#21 comparisons from last year. Bottomline, Barber gets the job done, Julius doesn't.


i hate say it but im starting to follow along with your thoughts. Julius just doesnt look like the same runner nah-mean?

[Cogan]

Dynamic running teams in football?
Are you kidding?

Our stable of running backs is in the lower half of the league -- probably the botton 10.

MBIII is a complementary back with well-rounded skills, but the fact is he is playing the best of any of our RB isn't a good thing. It means we have mediocre talent at the position -- because Jones has been so disappointing this year.

Are YOU kidding? Do you honestly think many other backs in this league could do much better running behind this offensive line? Our stable of backs is not in the lower half of the league, our line is. We started a rookie ORT, then we lost our Pro-bowl OLT for the season, and our starting ORG & Center have had to deal with nagging injuries.
JJ is playing hurt, so of course he's not playing up to expectations--could you?
Barber is a flat out playa! He made over half of his yards on his own.

Wait until we get all of our Oline healthy, and draft a franchise OLT next year. All of a sudden, you will be the first to say, "see, I told you JJ just needed to get healthy & run behind a decent line".

:rolleyes: Amazing!

[jcblanco22]

Are YOU kidding? Do you honestly think many other backs in this league could do much better running behind this offensive line? Our stable of backs is not in the lower half of the league, our line is. We started a rookie ORT, then we lost our Pro-bowl OLT for the season, and our starting ORG & Center have had to deal with nagging injuries.
JJ is playing hurt, so of course he's not playing up to expectations--could you?
Barber is a flat out playa! He made over half of his yards on his own.

Wait until we get all of our Oline healthy, and draft a franchise OLT next year. All of a sudden, you will be the first to say, "see, I told you JJ just needed to get healthy & run behind a decent line".

:rolleyes: Amazing!

Good post Cogan. I echo your sentiments, particularly on what can be done behind the quality of play our O-line has been putting out.

Incidentally, another potential "playing hurt but too much pride to admit it" guy might very well be Rivera. Who knows how much that back is still affecting him? With everything we've heard about his character and work ethic, he's the type that would not use it an excuse, at least publicly.

[AmishCowboy]

It's amazing how much Anti Barber stuff was going around here during Training camp, People here were calling him a bust!. Just remember he came out early from Minnesota, he's only going to get better, he may be the steal of a great draft!. :suxskins:

[big dog cowboy]

Hard to tell this kid is a rookie.
Unfortunately JJ doesn't run like he did last year. Lucky for us we drafted MBIII. You are right he runs like a vet.

[DallasDomination]

I just feel bad for JJ right now because if he doesnt step it up a little more he might just be knocked out the starting job.

[ka0tik]

Reasons why Julius (I think) isnt playing to expectations:

1. Still not fully recovered from high Ankle Sprain
2. The OL sux
3. LoOks like JJ is tryin' to be a ''Tough'' RB that plows over defenders, hes' soooo far from being that. Hes no Bettis.

on the other hand M. Barber is just great hes havin' more success because hes @ 100%, hes a strong Back in other words ''Tough'' (which JJ isnt) that gets you the tough yards WITH a crappy OL!!!

I bet if JJ was 100% he'd be much better. Very equivalent to MB. At this point tho' MB should get more carries. Hes our best RB right now. JJ is just tryin to apparent something he aint. hes a RB that takes it to the outside and goes ''home''. not the tough yarder that MB is.

IMHO.