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big_neil
12-12-2005, 11:26 AM
Yesterday Drew answered a lot of critics with another GW drive. I wonder if Drew's best game on the heels of his worse g ame has changed anyones opinion.

ABQCOWBOY
12-12-2005, 11:27 AM
No. Did it change yours Neil?

ZenItRam
12-12-2005, 11:28 AM
It didn't change my opinion of Drew, but it did give me hope for the O-line and playcalling by Payton.

Doomsday101
12-12-2005, 11:28 AM
Yesterday Drew answered a lot of critics with another GW drive. I wonder if Drew's best game on the heels of his worse g ame has changed anyones opinion.

My opinion has not changed. Give Drew some time and he will get the job done. The guy has a gun for an arm and is very accurate all he needs is the big boys in front of him to do their job.

big_neil
12-12-2005, 11:32 AM
I can't remember the last time the flea flicker failed with Drew. He's had at least 5 since 2004.

Zaxor
12-12-2005, 12:27 PM
My opinion has not changed. Give Drew some time and he will get the job done. The guy has a gun for an arm and is very accurate all he needs is the big boys in front of him to do their job.

The guy had I think 3 passes that should have been picked and run back for a td ...one was blocked at the line of scrimmage... one was dropped by the defender and the third was only half his fault (*Parcells thinking not mine)as it bounced off Campbells hands if I remember correctly...


* Parcells once said in a press conference that a QB has to know who he is throwing to and that if a guy has a tendenciey <sic>to pop the ball up that the QB has to know that and make the throw accordingly

HowAboutThemCowboys
12-12-2005, 12:30 PM
Give Drew time and he can kill a team. He's always been that way and still is. Forgive me for being a broken record, but it's the OL that is at fault.

wileedog
12-12-2005, 12:30 PM
The guy had I think 3 passes that should have been picked and run back for a td ...one was blocked at the line of scrimmage... one was dropped by the defender and the third was only half his fault (*Parcells thinking not mine)as it bounced off Campbells hands if I remember correctly...

Which one was dropped by a defender other than the one off Campbells hands?

hogwild
12-12-2005, 12:31 PM
My opinion has not changed. Give Drew some time and he will get the job done. The guy has a gun for an arm and is very accurate all he needs is the big boys in front of him to do their job.
damn you could say the same thing in reference to our other DREW

Doomsday101
12-12-2005, 12:33 PM
The guy had I think 3 passes that should have been picked and run back for a td ...one was blocked at the line of scrimmage... one was dropped by the defender and the third was only half his fault (*Parcells thinking not mine)as it bounced off Campbells hands if I remember correctly...


* Parcells once said in a press conference that a QB has to know who he is throwing to and that if a guy has a tendenciey <sic>to pop the ball up that the QB has to know that and make the throw accordingly

And the point is? Look Bledsoe deserves credit for a damn good game just as he catches hell for a bad game. The man threw for over 300 with 3 TD passes No ints and brought Dallas from behind through out the game including the last drive by the offense. As for a pass that should have been picked every QB out there has some passes that could have or should have been picked. Some of you guys are too busy looking for some excuse to slam Bledsoe to try and prove your point that he is some poor QB. Think what you will but he is clearly the best QB this team has had in a damn long time.

Doomsday101
12-12-2005, 12:36 PM
damn you could say the same thing in reference to our other DREW

Getting time and knowing what to do with that time are two different things.

juice28
12-12-2005, 12:37 PM
A veteran QB can adjust from his so-called "weaknesses". Was it me or did Drew get rid of the football a whole lot faster than previous games?

hogwild
12-12-2005, 12:48 PM
Getting time and knowing what to do with that time are two different things.
DH has shown that he can hit the open man.

DB should not even be on this team (JMO)

he is just holding back our future. We aren't

gonna make a legitimate run at the SB this year

anyway. Next year team will make a run but i don't

think it's gonna look very much like this team JMO

(offensively)

Doomsday101
12-12-2005, 12:50 PM
DH has shown that he can hit the open man.

DB should not even be on this team (JMO)

he is just holding back our future. We aren't

gonna make a legitimate run at the SB this year

anyway. Next year team will make a run but i don't

think it's gonna look very much like this team JMO

(offensively)

Your right that is your opinion. I don't think the future is being held back at all. fact is no other QB on this team is ready to take over unless your trying to play for the 1st pick in the draft and I don't buy into the thinking that you win the SB or the season is a failure not when your team has been down for as long as we have.

hogwild
12-12-2005, 01:03 PM
Your right that is your opinion. I don't think the future is being held back at all. fact is no other QB on this team is ready to take over unless your trying to play for the 1st pick in the draft and I don't buy into the thinking that you win the SB or the season is a failure not when your team has been down for as long as we have.
The team is being held back if the one leading it can't/won't

lead you to a championship. (again opinion...but NE didn't win til

his butt was on the bench ...that is not opinion :D )

And it is just your opinion that no other QB on the team is ready

to take over. as much as i don't like BP, he would have at least one

serviceable qb behind DB. I like DH but Romo has a little something

too. I don't think DB is here next yr unless he wins it all. Fresh legs

will win out. JMO and you have yours

Paniolo22
12-12-2005, 01:32 PM
It only changed my opinion of the O Line

Doomsday101
12-12-2005, 01:36 PM
The team is being held back if the one leading it can't/won't

lead you to a championship. (again opinion...but NE didn't win til

his butt was on the bench ...that is not opinion :D )

And it is just your opinion that no other QB on the team is ready

to take over. as much as i don't like BP, he would have at least one

serviceable qb behind DB. I like DH but Romo has a little something

too. I don't think DB is here next yr unless he wins it all. Fresh legs

will win out. JMO and you have yours

Dallas like any team will make it to the SB because of the team not just 1 man. Are you saying Manning is a bad QB because he has no rings? Maybe the Colts should bench him. As for Bledsoe being here next year I have no doubt he will return next season and a very good possibility the year after. In the meantime Dallas needs to find a QB for the future beyond Bledsoe.

Hostile
12-12-2005, 02:13 PM
Yesterday Drew answered a lot of critics with another GW drive. I wonder if Drew's best game on the heels of his worse g ame has changed anyones opinion.I don't change my opinion from 1 game to the next.

My opinion of him remains we need to keep him upright and healthy for our best chance to win this year. I also think he is a gunslinger QB who should be throwing to set up the run instead of our offense trying to run to set up his throws.

He's a late in his career bandaid trying to stop a lot of bleeding and is doing a decent job at it.

That has been my opinion from day 1 and nothing has changed. I doubt it will change regardless of outcome this season. If he starts in 2006 I'll be fine with it. If he is a 1 and done QB I will be fine with it. I expect him back and that hasn't changed either.

I don't worship the ground he walks on but I'm very happy with him overall.

hogwild
12-12-2005, 04:35 PM
Dallas like any team will make it to the SB because of the team not just 1 man. Are you saying Manning is a bad QB because he has no rings? Maybe the Colts should bench him. As for Bledsoe being here next year I have no doubt he will return next season and a very good possibility the year after. In the meantime Dallas needs to find a QB for the future beyond Bledsoe.
One man may not get a team to the SB, but one man can keep them

from getting there. by the way that is a fact.

I didn't say a darn thing about Manning, but since you did.

Bledsoe ain't Manning. if you can't see the difference :rolleyes:

Bledsoe is as guaranteed to be here as much as Peerless Price

Jerry is not tied to him or Bill Parcell for that matter. Bill can get it

done but if a prettier more attractive, just as successful, more potent

head coach becomes available ...buh-bye Bill

by-the-way i don't think Bill is very successful his time in Dallas so far

he needs to be better than .500 pretty quick .

I don't think he has been money well spent so far. (record-wise)

big_neil
12-12-2005, 04:43 PM
The guy had I think 3 passes that should have been picked and run back for a td ...

The guy also had I think 3 games that should have been won by kicking a FG.

Drew now has 20 TDs 11 INT 3035 Yards and 89.5 rating.

Better than Rick Mirer.

Doomsday101
12-12-2005, 04:44 PM
One man may not get a team to the SB, but one man can keep them

from getting there. by the way that is a fact.

I didn't say a darn thing about Manning, but since you did.

Bledsoe ain't Manning. if you can't see the difference :rolleyes:

Bledsoe is as guaranteed to be here as much as Peerless Price

Jerry is not tied to him or Bill Parcell for that matter. Bill can get it

done but if a prettier more attractive, just as successful, more potent

head coach becomes available ...buh-bye Bill


by-the-way i don't think Bill is very successful his time in Dallas so far

he needs to be better than .500 pretty quick .

I don't think he has been money well spent so far. (record-wise)

Unlike you I like having a coach who is considered by most in the league to be one of the top HC to walk a sideline and I'll also stick with a QB of the talent of Bledsoe. Sorry you may want to go back to the days where all anyone wanted to talk about is who we were going to draft next year, myself I'll take a winning any day over some draft talk. I will say everyone is entitled to their opinion.

big_neil
12-12-2005, 04:46 PM
A similar poll of mine showed Drew with a 75% approval rating. He had converted half his doubters during the season. This poll is suggesting he won over another half of those fans, and his approval rating is 93% as of this writing.

big_neil
12-12-2005, 04:47 PM
(won over another half of those doubters)

hogwild
12-12-2005, 04:55 PM
Unlike you I like having a coach who is considered by most in the league to be one of the top HC to walk a sideline and I'll also stick with a QB of the talent of Bledsoe. Sorry you may want to go back to the days where all anyone wanted to talk about is who we were going to draft next year, myself I'll take a winning any day over some draft talk. I will say everyone is entitled to their opinion.
I could care less what the rest of the league thinks of BP

Idon't like him never have never will. He ain't even in Vermeil's league

You may like that has been, but i want the 21st century version

The game has past him bye. see record.

AS far as qb ,I only want the best you are willing to settle for DB

Aikman was great , but he didn't look that great his first couple yrs

instead of going thru growing pains now like we should, we're just

putting off the inevitable, when we should be winning SB in 1 or2 yrs.

ABQCOWBOY
12-12-2005, 05:04 PM
A similar poll of mine showed Drew with a 75% approval rating. He had converted half his doubters during the season. This poll is suggesting he won over another half of those fans, and his approval rating is 93% as of this writing.


Don't worry Neil, if we lose to the Skinz, those numbers will probably reverse themselves and you can continue the Jihad.

;)

DLCassidy
12-12-2005, 05:09 PM
I could care less what the rest of the league thinks of BP

Idon't like him never have never will. He ain't even in Vermeil's league

You may like that has been, but i want the 21st century version

The game has past him bye. see record.

AS far as qb ,I only want the best you are willing to settle for DB

Aikman was great , but he didn't look that great his first couple yrs

instead of going thru growing pains now like we should, we're just

putting off the inevitable, when we should be winning SB in 1 or2 yrs.

I was thinking yesterday that we would be headed to the bowl if we had KC's OL. Despite having that OL, a stud running back and one of the top TE's in the game, Trent Green's stats are no better than Drew's. That's not to put down Green, he's a good player. But unless I've missed it, Vermeil hasn't gone to any SB's with KC, and he's older than BP. If BP can improve the OL talent to something close to KC's DB will be even better than he is, and what he is is pretty fair, Pro Bowl I'd say. I've seen nothing yet to indicate Henson is the next Aikman.

kojak
12-12-2005, 05:12 PM
Hogwild, howdy neighbor. I see you live in Mountain Home. I live about 7 miles west of you in the town of Gassville. Small World huh.

I see you make some valid points about our future and head coach. Though you might not like his ways and approaches to the games. He is far better than the puppet string coaches we had in years past. And frankly I don't think Jerry would fire or have the balls to do it. Bill seems to get his way when it comes to Jerry.

joseephuss
12-12-2005, 05:14 PM
Believe in Drew? Is he Santa or something?

He is what he is. Along those lines, he was the best immediate option this off season. His true evaluation will come after his tenure in Dallas. Right now he is playing well when the line offers him some protection. He hasn't lifted the rest of the team up when they are down. He also hasn't brought them down when they are up. He is playing at the rest of the offenses level. The line and running game play poorly, so does he. The game doesn't hinge on him it hinges on the line. Although since he is the QB, it does hinge on him.

Also, every QB in the league throws "could have been interceptions" every game. Trent Green threw some yesterday. Peyton Manning throws them. Favre throws them. They all do. Bledsoe threw some yesterday. It is when they throw more actual interceptions than TDs, there are problems. Bledsoe isn't doing that on the year, but has done it in the last couple of losses.

Mike 1967
12-12-2005, 06:10 PM
I did not change my view...but it impacted it.

Every game performance will impact my opinion/view/perception to some degree. Because my perception/opinion is based on what I see during live action.