Matt Lienert ?

[dannywhites]

Would you trade our :
nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?
To anyone who says his arm is not strong enough,he is a proven winner,who is used to both a pro offense,and the media spotlight,which in Dallas,comes with the position.
I really don't know what it would take,but i say throw the kitchen sink in if we have to.
The hardest thing to get is a young stud QB.
Just throwing it out there.

[iceberg]

no. if we're stuck with drew for another year then it makes no sense to NOT use these picks to help HIM in this last ditch effort.

even so, too much for him - pass on that deal.

[SkinsandTerps]

To move up that far it would indeed cost a bundle.

The needs on this team will almost certainly make Leinart out of the question as a viable option.

[silver]

what for. to sit behind bledsoe and romo and deemed a bust in 3 years?

[JohnnyO]

Word on Leinart is his arm is as bad as Chad Pennington's.
At least Bledsoe can fire it. We need to build a wall around Drew and cut those 50 times sacked to around 30 or so.

[big dog cowboy]

I would not do that deal. He isn't as good as Palmer.

[Jay]

You're stuck in a Madden-world. 1, 2, 3 AND next year's 1?

We have too many holes to fill bro. I think this is a terrible plan.

[burmafrd]

Leinart will be just like all those Miami QB's of the 90's that won in college and stank in the pros because they no longer had the huge edge in talent surrounding them.

[Chuck 54]

Would you trade our :
nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?
To anyone who says his arm is not strong enough,he is a proven winner,who is used to both a pro offense,and the media spotlight,which in Dallas,comes with the position.
I really don't know what it would take,but i say throw the kitchen sink in if we have to.
The hardest thing to get is a young stud QB.
Just throwing it out there.
Nope....I'm the biggest USC and Matt Leinart fan around...I think he could be better than Palmer in time, but we passed when we could have taken Byron Leftwich with our first round pick, so I'm not willing to trade the majority of the draft for a QB at this time. However, I do think it's time to start looking at QBs in rounds 2-4, guys like Simms and Kyle Orton, who can develop into decent starting QBs in the NFL instead of guys like Henson and Romo.

However, for those who don't ever like giving up draft picks to move up in round 1....sometimes it is definitely worth it. The year we drafted LaFleur as our TE in round 1, it sure would have been worth a 2nd rounder to move up a few spots and take Gonzalez...that sucker is old as dirt and still making the freakin' pro bowl. Sometimes you need to gamble in the draft and pay the cost to get the guy you really want.

Everything in the draft, imo, depends on setting yourself up for it in Free AGency....when you do a nice job of filling needs in free agency, it frees you up to make bold moves in the draft that can pay dividends for years.

[Doomsday]

I wouldnt waste the 2nd pick in the draft on Leinart even if we could move up there.

[Da Hammer]

No as I said on another topic, i think Leinart will be a bust in the pros because first of all he doesn't have a real strong arm and second he has so much talent at USC that almost any QB with at least some talent would be successful. He can have fun rotting in New Orleans

[REDVOLUTION]

1,2,3 and next years #1 - only SUPERMAN himself is worth all those picks.... u werent serious right?

[Maikeru-sama]

Nope.

- Mike G.

[Sarge]

Would you trade our :
nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?
To anyone who says his arm is not strong enough,he is a proven winner,who is used to both a pro offense,and the media spotlight,which in Dallas,comes with the position.
I really don't know what it would take,but i say throw the kitchen sink in if we have to.
The hardest thing to get is a young stud QB.
Just throwing it out there.

Negative.

[uberfan]

I don't beleive in bringing in a young QB until we have enough surrounding cast to give him a chance to succeed (see David Carr for an example).

[CrazyCowboy]

No thanks........

[Clove]

I don't really care about having a bullet arm, Bledsoe couldn't throw the ball worth a darn yesterday with his bullet arm, neither could Vick with his bullet arm.

I'll take a guy with instincts like Brady and Montana. Guys who just has a knack for finding the opened receiver and getting it there accurately.

With that said, I'll pass on that one, but I would move up to get DT Ngata... I'll give up Ferguson and our number 1 and a 5 to move up and get this monster.

[sportsman]

Man, I am just not that impressed with Matt. I know he has all the credentials to be drafted #1. I was more impressed with Chris Simms when he went into the draft than Matt.

I guess I am not to favorable when it comes to lefthand QB.

[Marktui]

Would you trade our :
nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?
To anyone who says his arm is not strong enough,he is a proven winner,who is used to both a pro offense,and the media spotlight,which in Dallas,comes with the position.
I really don't know what it would take,but i say throw the kitchen sink in if we have to.
The hardest thing to get is a young stud QB.
Just throwing it out there.

NO WAY. We have too many team needs. I know he could be a franchise QB, but that is way too big of a risk. 4 players that could potentially be starters for us vs one guy.

The draft is a crap shoot, I would rather play the numbers game and get more picks....

Don't get me wrong, we still need a QB for the future, but I think there are other avenues we can use.

[joseephuss]

Nope....I'm the biggest USC and Matt Leinart fan around...I think he could be better than Palmer in time, but we passed when we could have taken Byron Leftwich with our first round pick, so I'm not willing to trade the majority of the draft for a QB at this time. However, I do think it's time to start looking at QBs in rounds 2-4, guys like Simms and Kyle Orton, who can develop into decent starting QBs in the NFL instead of guys like Henson and Romo.

However, for those who don't ever like giving up draft picks to move up in round 1....sometimes it is definitely worth it. The year we drafted LaFleur as our TE in round 1, it sure would have been worth a 2nd rounder to move up a few spots and take Gonzalez...that sucker is old as dirt and still making the freakin' pro bowl. Sometimes you need to gamble in the draft and pay the cost to get the guy you really want.

Everything in the draft, imo, depends on setting yourself up for it in Free AGency....when you do a nice job of filling needs in free agency, it frees you up to make bold moves in the draft that can pay dividends for years.


There was no guarantee that Dallas could have pulled off a trade offering up a 2nd rounder to get Gonzales. It would have been nice, but we will never know if a trade was possible.

I agree that rounds 2 thru 4 could provide a young QB for Dallas. I don't know who at this time, but there could be someone available.

Or how about Josh McKown? Will he be available after the season?

[jimmy40]

Would you trade our :
nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?
To anyone who says his arm is not strong enough,he is a proven winner,who is used to both a pro offense,and the media spotlight,which in Dallas,comes with the position.
I really don't know what it would take,but i say throw the kitchen sink in if we have to.
The hardest thing to get is a young stud QB.
Just throwing it out there.Leinart = Joey Harrington.

[sacase]

How about we use those picks on a O line where we can put any QB in and he will do great. Just a thought.

[Murph80]

No way I wouldn't give up 2- 3's for him

[ManofSteel2331]

what an absolute terrible idea

[joseephuss]

Would you trade our :
nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?
To anyone who says his arm is not strong enough,he is a proven winner,who is used to both a pro offense,and the media spotlight,which in Dallas,comes with the position.
I really don't know what it would take,but i say throw the kitchen sink in if we have to.
The hardest thing to get is a young stud QB.
Just throwing it out there.

No player is worth that many picks. A player may be very good, but you still need other pieces around them to get the most out of their abilities. If Dallas traded that much to get Leinart, they would have very little opportunity to add talent to other positions.

I wouldn't trade that much to get Peyton Manning or Tom Brady right now. I like both those QBs and they are both better than Bledsoe, but neither would have much success behind this line. And with all those picks gone, Dallas could not improve the teams in the other areas that are needed to make this a very good team.

[InmanRoshi]

nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?

It would take far more than that. It will take much just to move up from #5 to get Leinart at #2. In reality, there is absolutely no way Dallas could move up to the Top 5 from 18. No organization could sell that severe of a drop down to their fan base.

[Muhast]

Brady Quinn is hands down a better player then Lienart. No thanks. I'll wait a year

[dannywhites]

Well,as i said,i was just throwing it out there.
However,giving up a 2 and 3 and a 1 next year (which hopefully should be near the end of round 1) is NOT over paying for the best QB in the draft.
If i remember right,
(and while i do not post much,i am on here multiple times a day year round),
there were some people hoping he would come out early,and maybe we might have a chance to snag him.
Even Aikman said this past weekend,and this is not word for word
"it is not about talent in the nfl,everyone has talent,it is about the intangables".
Some players are "winners",and some players are great players.
If we had a chance,i would take him,sit him for a year behind Bledsoe (who i like,but there is a reason why he has been on 3 teams,its because he is a "good" QB,but a QB who will always break your heart)
Me,i want to add to:
Meridith-Stauback-D.White(deserves more credit than he gets)-Aikman
The hell with a bus driver,i want the guy who picks up the bus and carries it on his back,maybe im spoiled,but thats what i'm used too as a COWBOY fan.

[Clove]

No player is worth that many picks. A player may be very good, but you still need other pieces around them to get the most out of their abilities. If Dallas traded that much to get Leinart, they would have very little opportunity to add talent to other positions.

I wouldn't trade that much to get Peyton Manning or Tom Brady right now. I like both those QBs and they are both better than Bledsoe, but neither would have much success behind this line. And with all those picks gone, Dallas could not improve the teams in the other areas that are needed to make this a very good team.I'd do it in a heartbeat. Sometimes, you have to sell out to get the best.

Take a look at all the teams who had dynasties since the 70's. They all have one thing in common. They had a home grown young Franchise QB.
Steelers - Bradshaw
49rs - Montana
Cowboys - Aikman
Patriots - Brady

I know it may hurt us, but we have to pull the trigger at some point.

[Fletch]

No way do we mortgage the future like that, just to get a possible Phillip Rivers in the making.

[Clove]

No way do we mortgage the future like that, just to get a possible Phillip Rivers in the making.For Manning or Brady I would, not a draft pick.

[SkinsandTerps]

For Manning or Brady I would, not a draft pick.

With the current OL status ?

I wouldnt.

Both of those guys need a solid OL.

[skinsngibbs4life]

personally, i think you let blesoe QB next year, and then, you wait for brady quinn to come out of notre dame, because he will be good. he is already playing in a NFL system right now, and will have a quick transition to the NFL

[Billy Bullocks]

We need to draft a QB eventually. But if you guys out here think that this team can go to a SB in the next few years, it's not going to be with a rookie. Im all for drafting a QB and developing him, or seeing what the other guys can do that we already have.

Leinhart does look to have a mediocre arm. He has great coaching, and he is surrounded by great players. I will say, he has won alot and put up good numbers, and that has to count for something. Though I have a hard time believing that he is anywhere near as good as Palmer.

Personally, Id rather have a guy like Leftwich or Roethlisberger over Leinhart

[Natedawg44]

Move this flipping post to an area where someone gives a crap about fricking Matt (New Face of the New Orleans Saints) Leinert. Like maybe the draft zone.

[scottsp]

Would you trade our :
nos.1,2,3 this year year
and
No.1 next year (hopefully late 20's at worst)
For him ?
To anyone who says his arm is not strong enough,he is a proven winner,who is used to both a pro offense,and the media spotlight,which in Dallas,comes with the position.
I really don't know what it would take,but i say throw the kitchen sink in if we have to.
The hardest thing to get is a young stud QB.
Just throwing it out there.

If only it were that cheap.

Not too many Cowboy fans are going to be willing to pay such a price, regardless of said talent. As you know, blue chip quarterbacks are the toughest thing to find. In 1989, this team took on a lot of backlash for taking Troy Aikman with the top pick. And that continued for a couple years.

My thought is, fans here don't want to wait two or three seasons before a top end draft pick starts paying off. I suspect even if we had a top three selection, much of our fan base would be hesistant to go Leinart or another quarterback. We feel we are close to something big. IMO, something more "instant" would be more palatable to the masses.

I wouldn't pay the incredible price to move up that far, though I believe Matt Leinart to be damn good. If Dallas were up top in the order, it would be a far different story. For me anyway.