Parcells to Detroit?

[neosapien23]

NFL total access just announced a rumor of Parcells going to Detroit. He is suppose to be close to Matt Millen. How many people would want this to happen if the Cowboys recieved Detroit's 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder this year. This isn't far fetched because Tampa Bay gave up two 1st rounders to obtain Gruden from Oakland. Would you guys be willing to lose Parcells for draft compensation? Millen might be trying to save his job so I think Detroit would amply compesate the Cowboys.

[demdcowboys#1]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm..................................
let me think about this

I' ll take HELL NO for $500

[jbsg02]

I highly doubt that will happen

[dmq]

this is so stupid. he is either coaching here or retiring.

[BigDFan5]

NFL total access just announced a rumor of Parcells going to Detroit. He is suppose to be close to Matt Millen. How many people would want this to happen if the Cowboys recieved Detroit's 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder this year. This isn't far fetched because Tampa Bay gave up two 1st rounders to obtain Gruden from Oakland. Would you guys be willing to lose Parcells for draft compensation? Millen might be trying to save his job so I think Detroit would amply compesate the Cowboys.


For like the 100th time this week, you can't trade draft picks for coaches

[CM Duck]

if I am not mistaken, the NFL made rules not allowing the "trading" of draft picks for head coaches. This happened after the Raiders/bucs/gruden fiasco.

[neosapien23]

Then how did Gruden get traded to Tampa for two number 1s?

[Alexander]

For like the 100th time this week, you can't trade draft picks for coaches

And for like the 100th time this week, people who say that are WRONG.

McKay clarifies memo on coaches' contracts
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

SAN DIEGO -- Tampa Bay Bucs general manager Rich McKay, a man who knows a little bit about trading draft choices for a head coach, said Tuesday that the NFL's moratorium issued last week and precluding such moves has been misinterpreted.

"I have no doubt that, if a team wanted to trade draft picks for a coach and the terms were reasonable, the deal would go through," said McKay, who is the chairman of the NFL's influential competition committee. "Every trade has to be approved by the commissioner. And basically, that was reiterated in the memo, that's all."

McKay said the memo was intended more to limit the movement of assistant coaches and front offices personnel who are under contract. He emphasized that, over the last few seasons, even support staff members such as the video directors, trainers and equipment men have become "contract employees."

A source at the league level confirmed McKay's interpretation of the memo. The source termed the memo "purposely vague" and denied it was intended to keep the San Francisco 49ers from trading head coach Steve Mariucci to the Jacksonville Jaguars for draft choices. At it turned out, Mariucci had no interest in the Jacksonville vacancy.

"What the league was saying was, let's freeze this for a short time, and take a look at it," McKay said. "They asked (the competition committee) to look at it, and we will. We'll make a report to them."

That report likely will be presented to the league in March, at the annual NFL meetings, which will be held in Phoenix. McKay said it was premature to predict what the competition committee would recommend.

The Bucs, of course, traded a pair of first-round choices, two second-round picks and $8 million to Oakland so the Raiders would release Jon Gruden from the final year of his contract. McKay acknowledged that Gruden has been worth the high price tag.

"(But) I think the question is, where does it stop?" McKay said, referring to last week's league memo. "For us, it was the price of poker. It's what it cost us to do business. But I consider the coach the CEO of the football team. ... From that standpoint, it's the most important hire you're going to make."

[AmishCowboy]

Well, Since Tags doesn't like the Cowboys, he would rule for no draft picks.

[The Fonz]

Parcells going to this team or that team sound like Elvis siting

[utrunner07]

Yeah, I think that would be a pretty good deal, myabe we could even get one more pick in the 2007 draft out of them or, Harrington.
But it will never happen, Parcells will retire or coach the Cowboys next year.

[BigDFan5]

And for like the 100th time this week, people who say that are WRONG.

McKay clarifies memo on coaches' contracts
By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

SAN DIEGO -- Tampa Bay Bucs general manager Rich McKay, a man who knows a little bit about trading draft choices for a head coach, said Tuesday that the NFL's moratorium issued last week and precluding such moves has been misinterpreted.

"I have no doubt that, if a team wanted to trade draft picks for a coach and the terms were reasonable, the deal would go through," said McKay, who is the chairman of the NFL's influential competition committee. "Every trade has to be approved by the commissioner. And basically, that was reiterated in the memo, that's all."

McKay said the memo was intended more to limit the movement of assistant coaches and front offices personnel who are under contract. He emphasized that, over the last few seasons, even support staff members such as the video directors, trainers and equipment men have become "contract employees."

A source at the league level confirmed McKay's interpretation of the memo. The source termed the memo "purposely vague" and denied it was intended to keep the San Francisco 49ers from trading head coach Steve Mariucci to the Jacksonville Jaguars for draft choices. At it turned out, Mariucci had no interest in the Jacksonville vacancy.

"What the league was saying was, let's freeze this for a short time, and take a look at it," McKay said. "They asked (the competition committee) to look at it, and we will. We'll make a report to them."

That report likely will be presented to the league in March, at the annual NFL meetings, which will be held in Phoenix. McKay said it was premature to predict what the competition committee would recommend.

The Bucs, of course, traded a pair of first-round choices, two second-round picks and $8 million to Oakland so the Raiders would release Jon Gruden from the final year of his contract. McKay acknowledged that Gruden has been worth the high price tag.

"(But) I think the question is, where does it stop?" McKay said, referring to last week's league memo. "For us, it was the price of poker. It's what it cost us to do business. But I consider the coach the CEO of the football team. ... From that standpoint, it's the most important hire you're going to make."




So on one hand we have a letter from the NFL banning the trading of draft picks for coaches, and on the other we have Mckay (the guy trying to get picks from Dallas for Parcells) saying its only frozen. Yet after the meetings took place that year all news sites say you cant trade coaches for picks. So do you have anything from after the meetings in march of 2003 saying that it was allowed again?

[Kilyin]

POSTED 3:43 p.m. EST, January 2, 2006

CLEARING THE AIR ON PICKS FOR COACHES

After the Bucs acquired Raiders coach Jon Gruden by sending a pack of picks to the pirates of Piedmont, the NFL circulated a memo that supposedly prohibited this practice.

As explained in the January 17, 2003 St. Petersburg Times, the Competition Committee had concluded that the use of draft picks to secure coaches could be undermining the purposes of the draft. (http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml)

Not long thereafter, then-Bucs G.M. Rich McKay told ESPN.com that the memo was not intended to apply to head coaches. (http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1496578.html)

At a time when there will be plenty of head coaching vacancies and not enough high-end candidates, some teams could be interested in guys who already are gainfully employed with other NFL teams. Thus, the possibility of using draft picks has come up again, and plenty of our readers wanted to know whether the practice was still permitted.

League spokesman Greg Aiello told us on Monday that draft picks can be used to acquire a head coach or a high-ranking club executive (such as G.M. or the equivalent). Draft choices cannot be used, per Aiello, to acquire coordinators, position coaches, or executives below the level of president or G.M.

We've got a feeling that this rule will come into play for at least one of the current coaching and/or G.M. vacancies this year, possibly if the Chiefs come after coach Herm Edwards of the Jets.

From the Daily Turd: http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

[BigDFan5]

Thanks Kilyin glad thats cleared up

[Sarge]

POSTED 3:43 p.m. EST, January 2, 2006

CLEARING THE AIR ON PICKS FOR COACHES

After the Bucs acquired Raiders coach Jon Gruden by sending a pack of picks to the pirates of Piedmont, the NFL circulated a memo that supposedly prohibited this practice.

As explained in the January 17, 2003 St. Petersburg Times, the Competition Committee had concluded that the use of draft picks to secure coaches could be undermining the purposes of the draft. (http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml)

Not long thereafter, then-Bucs G.M. Rich McKay told ESPN.com that the memo was

At a time when there will be plenty of head coaching vacancies and not enough high-end candidates, some teams could be interested in guys who already are gainfully employed with other NFL teams. Thus, the possibility of using draft picks has come up again, and plenty of our readers wanted to know whether the practice was still permitted.

League spokesman Greg Aiello told us on Monday that draft picks can be used to acquire a head coach or a high-ranking club executive (such as G.M. or the equivalent). Draft choices cannot be used, per Aiello, to acquire coordinators, position coaches, or executives below the level of president or G.M.

We've got a feeling that this rule will come into play for at least one of the current coaching and/or G.M. vacancies this year, possibly if the Chiefs come after coach Herm Edwards of the Jets.

From the Daily Turd: [url]http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm (http://espn.go.com/nfl/columns/pasquarelli_len/1496578.htmlnot intended to apply to head coaches.[/url)

Lotta confusion on this issue. I thought the NFL put an end to this after the Gruden thing.

Looks like nothing was ever finalized.

Does it matter though? If BP retires, he's done - period IMO/FWIW.

[JohnnyO]

I'll take Roy Williams & a number1 - thank you very much.

[Murph80]

I personally don't care if Parcells goes next year as long as he leaves this team in good shape. You can't expect him to be here forever. So far I would say that he has gotten us going in the right direction.

[Billy Bullocks]

So he goes from "possibly retiring" to Detroit. Sure, for a guy who looks like he only has a few years left, just after it looks like we might be turning a corner here, and you think he's going to Detroit to start over again. Stop wasting bandwidth