Time to draft a QB?

[Derinyar]

I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to think about drafting a developemental QB in the 3rd or 4th round, if theres one worth drafting.

[Eddie]

Seems like most of the top QB's are all drafted in the top of the 1st round. Even that's a crap shoot.

We already invested a 3rd rounder in Hensen. Also gave up a 3rd rounder in keeping Romo.

If we're going for LONG TERM development, then we may as well stick with what we have.

If we want someone to play in 2007. We need to move up from our #18 spot.

[Derinyar]

Seems like most of the top QB's are all drafted in the top of the 1st round. Even that's a crap shoot.

We already invested a 3rd rounder in Hensen. Also gave up a 3rd rounder in keeping Romo.

If we're going for LONG TERM development, then we may as well stick with what we have.

If we want someone to play in 2007. We need to move up from our #18 spot.
Romo isn't likely to ever be a NFL starter. It looks like the franchise has soured on Henson. Bledsoe has a very definate window, in all likely hood.

[RCowboyFan]

I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to think about drafting a developemental QB in the 3rd or 4th round, if theres one worth drafting.

Yeah, and do what? Have four QBs on roster, without knowing how three of them are going to ever be worth anything or not?

I mean, there is got to be a point to drafting a QB. I mean, what indication any of you guys, that want to draft a QB, have as to giving any young QB a chance to compete for starting QB, if Bledsoe is on board?

Or is it simply because, we all want a new shiny toy (QB) to speculate about? Thats a honest question, because, I see Zero indication by Parcells that he will go with an Younger option, if that Younger option shows promise. Unless Bledsoe gets injured etc. He doesn't even want to pull out Bledsoe in blowout games, what makes one think he will give anyone a chance to unseat Bledsoe? Last year, he said he didn't want to permanently lose player. This year at the begining, he said, unlike last year, he is not afraid to start one of the young guys or give guys a chance in blowouts etc. But when it comes to action, nothing.

[Maikeru-sama]

It was time to draft a QB probably 8-10 years ago.

- Mike G.

[KD]

Reggie McNeal 3rd round?

[Portland Fanatic]

I'm thinking it might not be a bad idea to think about drafting a developemental QB in the 3rd or 4th round, if theres one worth drafting.

The only one I like is Jay Cutler...where we would not have to give up much to get him....

Leinart or Young would cost to much....

If Henson truely does not have what it takes, then dump him and move on....tired of experiments that don't work!

[Eddie]

It was time to draft a QB probably 8-10 years ago.

- Mike G.

Yep, but how many times was I shouted down when that was suggested 8-10 years ago???

Aikman was hurting in 1999 ... that's when we should have started looking for a replacement.

[neosapien23]

Maybe in the 3rd or second. Need a tackle in the worst way. Drew Brees might be a free agent. Let him sit behind Bledsoe this year while his labrum heals and take over in 2007 after a full recovery.

[Maikeru-sama]

Yep, but how many times was I shouted down when that was suggested 8-10 years ago???

Aikman was hurting in 1999 ... that's when we should have started looking for a replacement.

Who shouted you down?

I cant wait for Henson and Romo to get 1st class-one way ticket out of Dallas. I dont care where they go, I just dont want either one here.

We need to draft a kid that...

A) Didnt play Baseball and then come to the NFL..
B) We didnt reach for in the Draft..
C) Was at least drafted....

Sick of the baseball players and UDFA....

Again, this is the road we take...
http://www.royall.co.uk/rik/2image/cook_aitutuki_6.jpg

I bet that is Old Owner Jerry in the pick above right now looking for another Baseball player or reaching for a QB in the 2nd round that should be taken in the 6th...

Everyone else is going down the road taken most
http://demo.firmsite.findlaw.com/photos/demo-images/trans-traffic_jam-v25_25148.jpg

- Mike G.

[Eddie]

Who shouted you down?
- Mike G.

About the entire DMN forum back then.

I kept harping on the need for Troy's replacement ... the argument against it was the same old thing: why waste a draft pick, groom him, and then let him move on in FA???

Argh. It kills me everytime.

It's hard to imagine we haven't found Troy's replacement yet.

After Roger, we had Danny White. Good replacement.

After Danny, we were down a few years, but had Troy come in.

After Troy, it's been HOW many years and we have nothing in place ... pretty pathetic!!!

[dmq]

I still think Henson may develop. We knew it would be a long wait with him. In training camp, they messed w/ his throwing motion. Thats gotta be a hard thing to deal with and probably hurt his whole game during training camp. He has all the physical tools of a 1st rd pick. A recent article interviewing him said he has felt much more comfortable in the pocket during practice in recent months. Lets see how he does in Europe. That will at least let us know where in his development he is.
The Jets reportedly offered us a mid-round pick for Romo when they had their QB go down and we refused the offer. That either means that we think he could develop or that Parcells has nightmares of Henson being the second string guy.
I know one thing for a fact, Jerry aint gonna let Henson go without giving him every opportunity to succeed

[ABQCOWBOY]

Been time if you ask me. I know that not a lot of people like Chris Simms on this board but I look back at him and have to shake my head. In 10 games started, and the one he came in to replace an injured Brian Griese in, he's managed to post a 7-4 record. He's thrown for 2035 yards, 61% comp pecentage, 10 TDs, 7 Ints and a QB rating of 81.4. He has his team in the playoffs and, in his 3rd year, will likely only get better. He's 6-4 220 lbs, has a great arm and enough mobility to get out of the way of things. All this for a 3rd round pick. I admit hind sight is 20/20 but the guy is Phil Simm's son. He's know our HC his whole life. He played at Texas for sakes. How blind does one have to be?

In 2004, Matt Schaub was twords the bottom of the 3rd round. A player that played for Al Groh at Virgina, a close personal friend of our head coach.

Last year, Andrew Walter was taken in the 3rd round and I believe that he too will become a good QB in the NFL.

I guess it could happen but honestly, I'm not certain I can say why it's taken so long.

[Maikeru-sama]

About the entire DMN forum back then.

I kept harping on the need for Troy's replacement ... the argument against it was the same old thing: why waste a draft pick, groom him, and then let him move on in FA???

Argh. It kills me everytime.

It's hard to imagine we haven't found Troy's replacement yet.

After Roger, we had Danny White. Good replacement.

After Danny, we were down a few years, but had Troy come in.

After Troy, it's been HOW many years and we have nothing in place ... pretty pathetic!!!

Yep, only the Bears have had more guys go at it at signal caller then us and that stats was based on last year, so I bet we have surpased them now.

What were the boys on DMN saying we should do, since they were not open to drafting a young buck?

[Portland Fanatic]

I still think Henson may develop. We knew it would be a long wait with him. He has all the physical tools of a 1st rd pick. A recent article interviewing him said he has felt much more comfortable in the pocket during practice in recent months. Lets see how he does in Europe. That will at least let us know where in his development he is.
The Jets reportedly offered us a mid-round pick for Romo when they had their QB go down and we refused the offer. That either means that we think he could develop or that Parcells has nightmares of Henson being the second string guy.
I know one thing for a fact, Jerry aint gonna let Henson go without giving him every opportunity to succeed

I say keep Henson and draft Cutler.....which ever develops we play....I want two strong candidates on the roster to repalce Bledsoe....tired of this QB thing!

[Derinyar]

McNeal in the 3rd or 4th isn't a bad idea. If Henson isn't capable of backing up next year, then frankly he probably will never be worth doing anything in this league. Romo could end up being a nice backup player, but probably won't ever be a starter in the league. We need someone who has the potential to be a starter in 2-3 years at a minimum, unless we are just going to keep on picking up an older QB on his last legs each year.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Maybe in the 3rd or second. Need a tackle in the worst way. Drew Brees might be a free agent. Let him sit behind Bledsoe this year while his labrum heals and take over in 2007 after a full recovery.

Even if Brees were available, which he isn't, why would he sign to sit? His shoulder will be ready by TC. Neither he or Rivers will sign to sit and watch.

[jazzcat22]

Reggie McNeal 3rd round?

You must be kidding right?
Other than that about this being one of about 25,000 QB threads.... :bang2:

[Maikeru-sama]

Reggie McNeal 3rd round?

Normally I would say no.

But since I have watched this guy play since Highschool, I know a little bit more about him.

He has great accuracy and has nice touch on the ball. Suffered through an uninspiring coach and lackluster talent on offense and especially on defense.

I was totally shocked when the backup QB for Clemson took the Aggies Defense to taks in their first game of the season.

I wouldnt mind that pick, but I think the QB would have to come in the 1st or 2nd round to get playing time with Parcells.

[HardHittin'Witten]

are there any baseball players that are thinking of playing in the NFL? if not, no new QB next year.

[Bach]

It was time to draft a QB probably 8-10 years ago.

- Mike G.


Agreed, it's waaaay past time.

The only time we did was when we reached for QC. :rolleyes:
Then we turned around and took a flyer on a major project like Hutch. So once those two turds were onboard just about everyone was clamoring about us having to spend (waste) 3-4 years evaluating them.

Now we have another baseball reject and an undrafted FA on board as backups and some people think we need to give them a chance to develop.
And I keep hearing the same argument as before that adding a young "quality" QB to the mix would only complicate things since we need to evaluate the career backups we already have.


You know, it would be nice to actually have someone with real potential who is worth developing. Having a Bledsoe at QB is fine if you have someone ready to take his place. But having a Vinny or Bledsoe starting with no one in the wings is relatively pointless.

[jksmith269]

Seems like most of the top QB's are all drafted in the top of the 1st round. Even that's a crap shoot.

We already invested a 3rd rounder in Hensen. Also gave up a 3rd rounder in keeping Romo.

If we're going for LONG TERM development, then we may as well stick with what we have.

If we want someone to play in 2007. We need to move up from our #18 spot.
Explain to me how we gave up a 3rd rounder to keep Romo? we signed him as URFA and this past offseason he was a RFA and signed a two year contract. So where do you get we gave up a third rounder for him?

[CowboyManDan]

<Sarcasm>
Nah, QB isn't an important position on the field or anything.

Give me the next over 32 year old bus driver that becomes available.
</Sarcasm>

Since Aikman's retired, I haven't felt good about the QB position and have been hopeing every year a real dedication would be made to the position that would solve the problem for years...that is investing in a long term solution (draft/maybe trade) rather than short term (bus driver).

[Maikeru-sama]

Agreed, it's waaaay past time.

The only time we did was when we reached for QC. :rolleyes:
Then we turned around and took a flyer on a major project like Hutch. So once those two turds were onboard just about everyone was clamoring about us having to spend (waste) 3-4 years evaluating them.

Now we have another baseball reject and an undrafted FA on board as backups and some people think we need to give them a chance to develop.
And I keep hearing the same argument as before that adding a young "quality" QB to the mix would only complicate things since we need to evaluate the career backups we already have.


You know, it would be nice to actually have someone with real potential who is worth developing. Having a Bledsoe at QB is fine if you have someone ready to take his place. But having a Vinny or Bledsoe starting with no one in the wings is relatively pointless.

Yeah, I am always surprised to see this "Let's see what Henson and Romo" have deal. I wanted Henson to play last year, but that didnt happen, we went with Mr. Vinny.

He seemed to digress a little this year, and yes, I know he didnt play alot but that has to say something too.

Man, I really care if a QB we draft in the 1st Round could be a bust or not, I think it is time to start drafting one in that round until we hit on one. Were bound to get it right eventually.

I like that model way more then I light the Big Whig's current philosophy.

And yes, I am impatient, but stats like this..

Since the 2000 Season, Troy Aikman's last year, the cowobys have Posted 26 Wins and 39 Losses and have only had 1 Playoff appearance.

Link (http://www.dallascowboyz.com/articles/Its_the_Quarterback_Stupid!.asp?QVal=1&SearchKey=quarter)

Can do that to a guy...

[btcutter]

Seems like most of the top QB's are all drafted in the top of the 1st round. Even that's a crap shoot.

We already invested a 3rd rounder in Hensen. Also gave up a 3rd rounder in keeping Romo.

If we're going for LONG TERM development, then we may as well stick with what we have.

If we want someone to play in 2007. We need to move up from our #18 spot.


Philip Rivers maybe had for a lower price than you think. Unproven QBs sitting on the bench has a way of depreciating.
They may not be able to get anything more than a mid/late 1st rouder for him. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded for a 2nd + decent player.

[jksmith269]

Philip Rivers maybe had for a lower price than you think. Unproven QBs sitting on the bench has a way of depreciating.
They may not be able to get anything more than a mid/late 1st rouder for him. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded for a 2nd + decent player.
I think now that Brees has to have shoulder surgery he will be the odd man out. I doubt the Bolts get rid of either of them even with their contracts they are expected to be more than 20million under the cap.....

[neosapien23]

Even if Brees were available, which he isn't, why would he sign to sit? His shoulder will be ready by TC. Neither he or Rivers will sign to sit and watch.

He has a similar injury not unlike Pennnington. He would probably need at least 8 months to heal properly and rehab. The Chargers will not franchise a guy that might not be able to play right away. Rivers will be the starter next year. As far as Brees having to sit, let him compete for the job. If he can beat out Bledsoe let him have it. If he can't rest him until he is healthy. They will not keep both quarterbacks. The Chargers will be the team that signs Reggie Wayne. Wouldn't be surprised to see them lock up Koren Robinson as well. The need wide recievers in the worse way.

[ABQCOWBOY]

He has a similar injury not unlike Pennnington. He would probably need at least 8 months to heal properly and rehab. The Chargers will not franchise a guy that might not be able to play right away. Rivers will be the starter next year. As far as Brees having to sit, let him compete for the job. If he can beat out Bledsoe let him have it. If he can't rest him until he is healthy.


The guy is signed. They don't have to franchise him. Also, his injury is not career threatening. It was reported yesterday that he would rehab and likely be ready to go by TC next season.

Even if he were traded, which I seriously doubt, why would he agree to a trade to a team that would make him sit or even compete? He could go to a team like New Orleans, sign for more money and play immediatly. He could go to a team like Az and be an instant contender. I don't see it.

[Cbz40]

Either draft one or pick up a good young QB in FA