Special Edition. The Tune has changed on Demarcus Ware

[Bigdog24]

No longer is he being compared to the great Lawrance Taylor. JJ on Cowboys Special Editon was describing him as a Russel Maryland type..(still not bad). Ware was solid as a rookie with more expected next year.

Brad Shamm sure is company man. He never ask the tough questions, always stays with the (Dull Boreing) company message. He looks and act like a School Principle not a Football insider.

:starspin

[Dawgs0916]

What? Thats just stupid. Hes nowhere near the type of player Maryland was. Once is a DT, the other is a speed, pash rushing DE-OLB. Are you ok?

[Qwickdraw]

Yea...
that's a dumb comparison.

Maybe he's just talking about the level of expectation vs the level of rookie performance being comparable.

[SultanOfSix]

Yes, what a stupid comparison. The guy reminded me of Haley during the Carolina game. Russell Maryland never crossed my mind when comparing him to someone, ever.

[Juke99]

Not a relevant comparison. Two totally differnt types of players. Maryland gave a consistent, unspectacular performance, week in, week out....
Ware, at least as a rookie was just the opposite.

And ya know, the LT comparison was unfortunate from day one.

[Qwickdraw]

Not a relevant comparison. Two totally differnt types of players. Maryland gave a consistent, unspectacular performance, week in, week out....
Ware, at least as a rookie was just the opposite.

And ya know, the LT comparison was unfortunate from day one.
I agree.

That was unfair to Ware to compare him to the likes of the greatest LB of all time. Especially before he even took the field as a pro. Or as a LB for that matter.

[followthestar]

When asked to simply pin his ears back, Ware has shown every facet of being a dominant speed-rusher, with the instincts and speed to shift gears and run down any play on the field. he's become a solid runstopper as well, and can hold his ground when asked to that, as well. but you are all right - although i didn't see the names Julius Peppers or Jevon Kearse mentioned - two players who also were much-hyped and built in the same mold as Ware. Hopefully he can become even better than they turned out.

[MinnesotaCowboy]

A very silly comparison! Ware will be a very, very good player for the Cowboys for a very long time (I hope). As good as Russell was he might have a harder time now then when he came out.

[CantonBound08]

No longer is he being compared to the great Lawrance Taylor. JJ on Cowboys Special Editon was describing him as a Russel Maryland type..(still not bad). Ware was solid as a rookie with more expected next year.

Brad Shamm sure is company man. He never ask the tough questions, always stays with the (Dull Boreing) company message. He looks and act like a School Principle not a Football insider.

:starspin
The comparision was made to describe his work ethic and his will to be successful, not his playing style. When Jerry Jones said that I was thinking "wha???" and left scratching my head until he elaborated on it.

Jerry went on to tell a story about how they were either in a stadium or at a work out facility and he kept hearing a racket in the background and it was Russell Maryland hitting the sled by himself. Maryland thought he was the only one there.

[Ashwynn]

Not to bag on Ware, but hes not be anything but one dimentional and hes been average at it. hes a speed rusher and if you watch him, hes rushing right along the outside edge of the pocket right past the QB on 75% of his snaps. The Olinemen just keeps him outside and lets his speed work against him.

Ware needs to learn an inside move, swim move, spin. Something. He cant just go around the boarders of texas looking for a QB. Hes got to stunt, move inside. move around. Learn other techniques. hes a bull rusher in a league where they deal with bull rushers very easily. They just keep em outside.

I like Ware and think hes gunna be very good. But hes young and early in his career. He did more this year just on athleticism and talent then on technique or proper scheming. Give him a year or two and check out the whole package then. I think you will likee very much what you see.

[CantonBound08]

Not a relevant comparison. Two totally differnt types of players. Maryland gave a consistent, unspectacular performance, week in, week out....
Ware, at least as a rookie was just the opposite.

And ya know, the LT comparison was unfortunate from day one.
I completely agree. The LT comparison put unfair expectations on Ware considering he was switching positions and coming from a small school.

However, I was impressed over all with him. I really think that if we turned him loose on the QB more he could be game changing. Time will tell, but his rookie year was much much more productive than the rookie defensive ends we have brought in over the last several years.

[CantonBound08]

Not to bag on Ware, but hes not be anything but one dimentional and hes been average at it. hes a speed rusher and if you watch him, hes rushing right along the outside edge of the pocket right past the QB on 75% of his snaps. The Olinemen just keeps him outside and lets his speed work against him.

Ware needs to learn an inside move, swim move, spin. Something. He cant just go around the boarders of texas looking for a QB. Hes got to stunt, move inside. move around. Learn other techniques. hes a bull rusher in a league where they deal with bull rushers very easily. They just keep em outside.

I like Ware and think hes gunna be very good. But hes young and early in his career. He did more this year just on athleticism and talent then on technique or proper scheming. Give him a year or two and check out the whole package then. I think you will likee very much what you see.

Agreed. The guy just needs time.

[Juke99]

I agree.

That was unfair to Ware to compare him to the likes of the greatest LB of all time. Especially before he even took the field as a pro. Or as a LB for that matter.

I found it a very surprising comment coming from Parcells...who HATES things like that.

Ya know, I think Jerry's influence was all over that one. Remember Jerry making mention of Aikman when he drafted QC? It's all marketing and hype. It ain't about football.

That's why it surprised me when Parcells did it.

[BIGDen]

Not a relevant comparison. Two totally differnt types of players. Maryland gave a consistent, unspectacular performance, week in, week out....
Ware, at least as a rookie was just the opposite.

And ya know, the LT comparison was unfortunate from day one.

I totally agree Juke. Having said that, few performances by any player in recent memory reminded me more of LT than Demarcus Ware's performance against Carolina. That was thoroughly dominant. The swatting move as he was sacking Delhomme, the athletic plays against the run - vintage LT. Now can he perform like that more consistantly like the great LT? We shall see. The Maryland comparison is strange. We just need to step back and be very happy about the fact that it looks like we finally got it right when it comes to drafting a pass rusher. The guy came from Troy as a DE and had to learn a new position in a new defense and put up very respectable numbers. If I'm not mistaken, LT only had a couple more sacks his rookie year (I think 10, but I could be wrong) and he was making less of a transition from college to pro. Ware made quite a few big plays this year and will likely be even better next year when he is thinking less and just playing. I'm pretty psyched about the guy.

[Juke99]

I completely agree. The LT comparison put unfair expectations on Ware considering he was switching positions and coming from a small school.

However, I was impressed over all with him. I really think that if we turned him loose on the QB more he could be game changing. Time will tell, but his rookie year was much much more productive than the rookie defensive ends we have brought in over the last several years.

It would be nice to see us being a little more creative with how he is used. In the Carolina game, he was lined up on the opposite side a few times...but for the most part, he was on the right side either with his hand on the ground which meant he was rushing as a traditional 4-3 DE...or he was standing and dropping into coverage.

The utilization of him was beyond vanilla.

[cowboyfan4life_mark]

The title of the post was a little misleading to me. Saying Tuna has changed on Ware but yet JJ made the comments.

[jazzcat22]

Yes, what a stupid comparison. The guy reminded me of Haley during the Carolina game. Russell Maryland never crossed my mind when comparing him to someone, ever.

Agree.
I didn't like the LT comparison, too early to start that. But yes, in the Carolina game, I thought of Haley also, but not before that game.

[Juke99]

I totally agree Juke. Having said that, few performances by any player in recent memory reminded me more of LT than Demarcus Ware's performance against Carolina. That was thoroughly dominant. The swatting move as he was sacking Delhomme, the athletic plays against the run - vintage LT. Now can he perform like that more consistantly like the great LT? We shall see. The Maryland comparison is strange. We just need to step back and be very happy about the fact that it looks like we finally got it right when it comes to drafting a pass rusher. The guy came from Troy as a DE and had to learn a new position in a new defense and put up very respectable numbers. If I'm not mistaken, LT only had a couple more sacks his rookie year (I think 10, but I could be wrong) and he was making less of a transition from college to pro. Ware made quite a few big plays this year and will likely be even better next year when he is thinking less and just playing. I'm pretty psyched about the guy.

I think he'll be fine...especially if he is used more creatively.

The LT thing was unfortunate because IMO, LT was the greatest defensive player to ever play the game.

LT had an energy level that bordered on psychotic. He simply took over games purely by his presence.

Once Ware learns his position and gets more comfortable, I think he'll do things with more abandon. Should be fun to watch...

Unless of course if, when Parcells leaves, the new coach wants to run a 4-3 :eek:

[Juke99]

The title of the post was a little misleading to me. Saying Tuna has changed on Ware but yet JJ made the comments.

:)

Nah..the thread says "tune"....I read it the same way at first. :D

And Parcells was the guy who made the LT references..

[baj1dallas]

When asked to simply pin his ears back, Ware has shown every facet of being a dominant speed-rusher, with the instincts and speed to shift gears and run down any play on the field. he's become a solid runstopper as well, and can hold his ground when asked to that, as well. but you are all right - although i didn't see the names Julius Peppers or Jevon Kearse mentioned - two players who also were much-hyped and built in the same mold as Ware. Hopefully he can become even better than they turned out.

Peppers is way more than hype. I am looking forward to the game today because you get to watch Peppers on one side and Alex Brown on the other...both guys can dominate a game.

[Ashwynn]

:)

Nah..the thread says "tune"....I read it the same way at first. :D

And Parcells was the guy who made the LT references..

I read it as Tuna the first time too. LOL

[Qwickdraw]

Ware does play similarly to LT.
It's not a production comparison but more of a method comparison. Body type, technique, ability... that kinda stuff.

It is just odd for BP to have said it because, like Juke said, he never talks like that about anyone. Especially a rookie.

But I bet the LT comparison becomes more true as the years go on. Ware is gonna be good. Real good.

[Dave_in-NC]

I think he'll be fine...especially if he is used more creatively.

The LT thing was unfortunate because IMO, LT was the greatest defensive player to ever play the game.

LT had an energy level that bordered on psychotic. He simply took over games purely by his presence.

Once Ware learns his position and gets more comfortable, I think he'll do things with more abandon. Should be fun to watch...

Unless of course if, when Parcells leaves, the new coach wants to run a 4-3 :eek:

Yeah LT had energy alright, sniff sniff.;)

Ware is going to be fine, once we add a little more to the new defense he will be a little more flavored. I think the new scheme held this D back a bit. Wait until they are confident with it.

[speedkilz88]

Like CantonBound08 said, Jerry was talking about how great a work eithic Ware had to go along with his great physical abilities. He was giving him high praise with the Maryland comparison, it was not intended to be negative in any way.