Payton Officially Saints HC

[fldude2k1]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/5256574

[SilverStarCowboy]

Hate to see him go, continuity would have been great in year 3...Well lets get a hardass in here to make up for it.

[maxsports]

Good Luck to him. He has his work cut out for him there. Who is our next OC?

Wish he would take Zimmer with him

[bootyhunta]

Congrats to Payton...

Seems like everyone wants a young offensive mind these days.

[Kilyin]

Haley will probably be the new OC.

[Doomsday101]

Hate to see Payton go but congradulation to him none the less.

[Portland Fanatic]

yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TheHustler]

Congrats to him.

The OC search begins.

[The30YardSlant]

A sucker is born every minute, and New Orleans just took the bait....

[dargonking999]

well this is good because now

if our offensive tanks its bill and jerry's fault for letting payton go.

if our offense takes off its bill and jerry's fault for not letting him go soon enough.

:D

[Marktui]

How would you guys feel about him then?? I liked the guy, wonder who the next OC is going to be??

[Portland Fanatic]

well this is good because now

if our offensive tanks its bill and jerry's fault for letting payton go.

if our offense takes off its bill and jerry's fault for not letting him go soon enough.

:D

Payton has done CRAP since he's been here!!!

[HardHittin'Witten]

congrats to Coach Payton! Best of luck to him.

[CactusCowboy]

"Payton has done CRAP since he's been here"!!!

You could say the same thing about Parcells.............

[Murph80]

Payton has done CRAP since he's been here!!!
Took a Quincy Carter led offense to the playoffs.

[RCowboyFan]

Payton has done CRAP since he's been here!!!

Ok, so what has BP done for Offense then? Isn't this offense his, since he was calling the plays first two years?

[Portland Fanatic]

"Payton has done CRAP since he's been here"!!!

You could say the same thing about Parcells.............

If not in Superbowl next year you will hear me saying the same thing about him a year from now.

[AbeBeta]

Good for him. I've said it before -- to accomplish what he has done with the crap O-line we had this year involved some very very good work. He'll be even better when he isn't calling plays with an eye toward pleasing BP.

[Portland Fanatic]

Ok, so what has BP done for Offense then? Isn't this offense his, since he was calling the plays first two years?

Think about it....he went 10-6 with QC as QB, with half the talent.

[Doomsday101]

If not in Superbowl next year you will hear me saying the same thing about him a year from now.

How about if we just get to the NFC championship game? LOL

[InmanRoshi]

If he drafts Leinart, he's got some weapons to work with. The Saints essentially have been unfortunate and under coached, but they are not without talent.

[Portland Fanatic]

How about if we just get to the NFC championship game? LOL

Hmmmm...well since I said the Superbowl...I'm stuck now.:laugh2:

[BC IN DC]

Probably be that David Lee guy (QB quality coach) with Parcells back to calling plays. Yuk.

[RCowboyFan]

Think about it....he went 10-6 with QC as QB, with half the talent.

And who was the OC in 2004 with Vinny at helm? Or for that matter, who was the Passing Co-ordinator for Quincy when he threw those yards or who was QB coach for Quincy? So yeah, Think about it, he made Quincy throw for those yards :cool:

[wileedog]

Meh, the guy was asked to run a time of possession based offense without an offensive line, and injured RB and an immobile QB. I think he did a decent job considering.

I would rather have lost Zimmer.

[Hiero]

If he drafts Leinart, he's got some weapons to work with. The Saints essentially have been unfortunate and under coached, but they are not without talent.
Deuce McAllister, Joe Horn, Dante Stallworth, they have a lot of weapons on offense for leinart. jamaal brown and lecharles bentley if he stays for the OL. I think he should be able to turn things around in NO a bit with Leinart. They have a lot of talent, maybe they need someone to just whip them into shape.

[Portland Fanatic]

If he drafts Leinart, he's got some weapons to work with.

I don't question his ability to work with QB's...I think he's done a good job there, just think his playcalling SUX! And yes he is the one calling plays in the game...no matter what game plan was established.

[KingTuna]

YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's get Dan Henning in here now!!!

OR

someone with some creativity!!!!!


Don't forget your pal Zimmer too!!!

[Portland Fanatic]

And who was the OC in 2004 with Vinny at helm? Or for that matter, who was the Passing Co-ordinator for Quincy when he threw those yards or who was QB coach for Quincy? So yeah, Think about it, he made Quincy throw for those yards :cool:

I get it...so he gets credit for QC because he was QB coach...nothing to do with MUCH BETTER/UNPREDICTABLE play calling. :rolleyes:

[Cbz40]

Congrats Coach Payton.....Best of luck to you.

[kingwhicker]

A sucker is born every minute, and New Orleans just took the bait....

That town is full of suckers, case in point, the fool that decided to start a city under sea level.

[RCowboyFan]

I get it...so he gets credit for QC because he was QB coach...nothing to do with MUCH BETTER/UNPREDICTABLE play calling. :rolleyes:

OK, and the unpredictable play calling is not BP's doing? Okie Dokie, I guess we shall see the innovative calling next year, with BP at helm again :rolleyes:

[Dayton Cowboy]

That leaves them in position for either Leinart or Vince.... I think he could do well with either of those two if the Saints get some other players. Maybe Payton would try to get permission to talk with Zimmer? If we were still running the 4-3, then I think he's not a terrible coach(yes, I know there are some that want to get rid of him because of his bend don't break philosophy).. But the players weren't the only ones that were learning on the fly.. While there was improvement on the stat sheet from '04 to '05.. I'm not convinced he could further progress in the 3-4 from last year.

[big dog cowboy]

A sucker is born every minute, and New Orleans just took the bait....
:hammer:

Hate to say it but that is the way I really feel.

[big dog cowboy]

YYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's get Dan Henning in here now!!!

Don't forget your pal Zimmer too!!!
I like the way you think KT!!!

[calico]

Congrats to Payton. I am sad to see him go. We never got to really see what he could do since he was smothered by Parcells.

[Portland Fanatic]

OK, and the unpredictable play calling is not BP's doing? Okie Dokie, I guess we shall see the innovative calling next year, with BP at helm again :rolleyes:

IMO the playcalling from years 2003 and 2004 were not nearly as bad as this year when it was turned over to Payton...this is why I was on Payton's arse since the Skins game...countless posts from me on his inability and lack of creativity.

[Duane]

I never had a problem with Peyton as our offense seemed to click when the offensive line protected Bledsoe.

[AbeBeta]

I never had a problem with Peyton as our offense seemed to click when the offensive line protected Bledsoe.

Why be reasonable when you can make crazy all or nothing evaluations about people?

[Yeagermeister]

Good luck to him. He'll need it.

[Dale]

I'll be less enthused about this departure if/when Todd Haley is named the new offensive coordinator.

[Cbz40]

I'll be less enthused about this departure if/when Todd Haley is named the new offensive coordinator.


He better not be.........:(

[kiheikiwi]

Never had a problem with Peyton, however, it will be very interesting to see if we hire from outside the organisation (hope) or from within...

[Nors]

I'll be less enthused about this departure if/when Todd Haley is named the new offensive coordinator.
I'm with you 100% - Haley is not qualified to be an NFL OC. If he gets the gig I am very, very concerned.


What names are you hearing? After the obvious Henning(if not under contract) & Mike Sherman come to mind if not head coach.

[Waffle]

I'm with you 100% - Haley is not qualified to be an NFL OC. If he gets the gig I am very, very concerned.


What names are you hearing? After the obvious Henning(if not under contract) & Mike Sherman come to mind if not head coach.

I want Henning. Make him Assistant Head Coach if you have too.

[kingwhicker]

Haley is not qualified to be an NFL OC.

That's probably why he will be.

[Portland Fanatic]

I'll be less enthused about this departure if/when Todd Haley is named the new offensive coordinator.

If it's Haley he will be a puppet and BP will call plays....JMHO.

I really hope BP goes out and gets a real OC...someone he can literally turn the offense over too. BP needs to stay focused on the defensive side...he strong suit.

[rynochop]

What's Bruce Coslett doing these days? :)

[Waffle]

What's Bruce Coslett doing these days? :)

Hanging out with Jack Reilly in a soup line.

[BigDFan5]

Congrats to Coach payton, and welcome our soon to be OC Todd Haley

[silver]

what mo carthon up to these days? i wonder if he would make a parallel move.

[Etonicas]

Good luck to him, I hope he does well. :)

[junk]

If he drafts Leinart, he's got some weapons to work with. The Saints essentially have been unfortunate and under coached, but they are not without talent.

The Saints have definitely underachieved lately. I would have thought a coach that stresses discipline would do well with that team. Payton doesn't strike me as that.

[AmishCowboy]

Are there any good candiates out there?, Hated Norv to Niners!

[CaptainAmerica]

Now we know how bad it is to work for Parcells!

Payton is willing to take the Saints head coaching job just to get away from Parcells! :)

[dmq]

If Haley is picked, don't throw him under the bus before he is given a chance. Position coaches generally are moved up the ranks when coaches exit. Parcells thought enough of him to bring him back. Talk about underqualified, look who the Jets just hired. Until he is given the job and fails, lets give him a chance. At least we know he has fire.

[neosapien23]

Now we know how bad it is to work for Parcells!

Payton is willing to take the Saints head coaching job just to get away from Parcells! :)

I don't know if your joking, but there is some truth to that. BP never let Carthon call the plays which is why he left to Cleveland for the same job description. The only difference in Cleveland is that Crennel lets him call the offensive plays. It's a little different for Payton though, he was promoted.

[rgcowboys]

He should of never took this job. The Saints are in turmoil and he will be fired in 2 years.

[Da Hammer]

although i wasn't his biggest fan i wish him the best of luck in New Orleans and hope he gives the city hope after that horrible disaster that happened. GOOD LUCK COACH PAYTON!!!!

Now as for us who do ya think we have the best chance of hiring at OC other than someone if the organization because i really hope its not Todd Haley

[The Fonz]

good for him wish him the best I have a feeling he will call Zimm to be his DC

[Eskimo]

Well I guess I should wish Payton well - never caused a problem here during his stay and put up some decent production despite a lack of quality OL play during his stay here as "passing game coordinator".

It'll be interesting to see who becomes the OC next year. I wonder if we can lure one of the top OL coaches by giving him the title - no club could block the move without giving him the new title.

My hopes are for Tice or Beightol for OL coach.

[kingwhicker]

Well I guess I should wish Payton well - never caused a problem here during his stay and put up some decent production despite a lack of quality OL play during his stay here as "passing game coordinator".

It'll be interesting to see who becomes the OC next year. I wonder if we can lure one of the top OL coaches by giving him the title - no club could block the move without giving him the new title.

My hopes are for Tice or Beightol for OL coach.

I'd love to have Tice as our OL/OC- I think he really does have a bright future despite some of the mess (self-inflicted and otherwise) he has endured.

[EPL0c0]

Could there be any consideration to Eric Price, UTEP's current OCoordinator?

I think he'd fit in ok and he does have experience with Bledsoe.

Here's his profile: http://www.utepathletics.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=10295&SPID=635&DB_OEM_ID=2100&ATCLID=67425&Q_SEASON=2005


Go Cowboys!

[ddh33]

Congratulations to Sean. I think he's a good football coach, and I think the Saints will be better off for it. That's not that bad of a team that they have. With a little coaching and some good luck (and they are due for that), they can be right back in the thick of things again.

As for where the Cowboys go next, Todd Haley may not be a bad guy for the job. He's fiery, and I do think that Bill respects him.

I'm more interested in seeing what other coaches may go with Sean...

[Mol Mol]

Thank god he is gone..now maybe the bone headed offensive calls we had last year will stop.

[Seven]

R.I.P. Payton.

[Bach]

Thank god he is gone..now maybe the bone headed offensive calls we had last year will stop.

I doubt it. It wasn't Payton who played for a tie going into the final few minutes each week.

[baj1dallas]

He should of never took this job. The Saints are in turmoil and he will be fired in 2 years.

I disagree...this is a chance for him to tutor Matt Lienhart, there's no way the Saints will fire him within the next couple seasons, they're gonna rebuild. IMO he's in a pretty good situation.

[Bob Sacamano]

oh crap

[Bob Sacamano]

what Payton did for our offense has been amazing, look at the talent he's had to work with, and still we started off hot the last 2 years, too bad the talent was never there for him, hope our next O-coordinator gets some

[Bob Sacamano]

Good luck to him. He'll need it.

yep, no matter how bad Aaron Brooks was at QB, it's going to get worse with whoever they decide to stick in his place, a draft pick, or Todd Bouman

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm with you 100% - Haley is not qualified to be an NFL OC.

why? cuz he's never held that position before? OCs have to start someplace

[Bob Sacamano]

I want Henning. Make him Assistant Head Coach if you have too.

I want nothing that disrupts the continuity of our offense, it's not like we have the talent to re-learn a new system on the run again

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't know if your joking, but there is some truth to that. BP never let Carthon call the plays which is why he left to Cleveland for the same job description. The only difference in Cleveland is that Crennel lets him call the offensive plays. It's a little different for Payton though, he was promoted.

where's truth to that? can't it just be a large possibility that Payton jumped at the chance to run his own team? I mean, how many coordinators in the NFl get that opportunity? hell, Ted Cottrell has been waiting years

[Bob Sacamano]

Well I guess I should wish Payton well - never caused a problem here during his stay and put up some decent production despite a lack of quality OL play during his stay here as "passing game coordinator".

It'll be interesting to see who becomes the OC next year. I wonder if we can lure one of the top OL coaches by giving him the title - no club could block the move without giving him the new title.

My hopes are for Tice or Beightol for OL coach.

Payton got Vinny T and Quincy Carter to throw for over 3,000 yards, that's a heck of a job in my book

[StanleySpadowski]

Would anyone's opinion of Parcells change if Dallas' offense struggles next year and the Saints w/ Payton light it up offensively?

[Seven]

they're gonna rebuild.

Yeah...from the stadium on up.

IMO he's in a pretty good situation.

Yep. Probably let him pick out the new colors for the locker rooms.

I know your being optomistic but that franchise is in a quandry and that's being nice. The owner is even playing games.

I wish him the best........cause he's gonna need it.

[jazzcat22]

I didn't have time to read all the post, so maybe this has been brought up.

Maybe he will trade for Glover and Ellis from us, since it has been rumored they may be gone.

[DWAREZ]

what Payton did for our offense has been amazing, look at the talent he's had to work with, and still we started off hot the last 2 years, too bad the talent was never there for him, hope our next O-coordinator gets some

He only ran the offense in 2005 :)

[Bob Sacamano]

He only ran the offense in 2005 :)

you're right, but he was the QB coache when Vinny T and Quincy Carter of all people threw for over 3,000 yards

[The Fonz]

Would anyone's opinion of Parcells change if Dallas' offense struggles next year and the Saints w/ Payton light it up offensively?

Bill has been on payton back all the time Payton was not free in his play calling so my opinion of Parcells is not that all too good so far . .As far who will be our new OC. Bill Percells will be our new OC as he has been .I bet you Payton was happy to go

[MinnesotaCowboy]

I will add my congrats to Payton as a lot of others have......I personnally think that Parcells will go outside for an OC. I am sure he has probably been looking around ever since Payton started being interviewed. Getting Henning and making him assistant HC would be a promotion and he would run a similar offense as we have now. David Lee will probably move up to QB coach. I would hate to lose Gibbs but I think we could use a new line coach if we lost Sparano. How about Linehan from Miami. On the other hand BP really likes Sparano and might make him the OC. I don't like the Haley idea but I guess we could do worse. I think BP has already picked his guy but will wait awhile before his announcement.:rolleyes:

[Waffle]

I want nothing that disrupts the continuity of our offense, it's not like we have the talent to re-learn a new system on the run again

Then you should want Henning too. As a former Parcells assistant, his offense is similar to what we are running now.

[Bob Sacamano]

Then you should want Henning too. As a former Parcells assistant, his offense is similar to what we are running now.

then I'll take him

[Hoods]

I doubt it. It wasn't Payton who played for a tie going into the final few minutes each week.

What, did he tell you that?

[neosapien23]

I didn't have time to read all the post, so maybe this has been brought up.

Maybe he will trade for Glover and Ellis from us, since it has been rumored they may be gone.

Doubt it. New Orleans has a ton of talent on the Dline.

[Nors]

Doubt it. New Orleans has a ton of talent on the Dline.

Howard was surpassed and suspended last year. They have a nucleus of young talent on Dline. But they have not really done much on the field.


Summerfun - Continuity on offense? Gotta keep that going!:lmao: :lmao:

[dmq]

I wish we could get Henning, but it aint gonna happen. We need someone to solve this offensive line mess. Coordinators make a difference. Look what Greg Williams did for the Redskins.:banghead: