Jacob Rogers [Archive] - Dallas Cowboys Forum

neosapien23

01-17-2006, 08:11 PM

neosapien23

01-17-2006, 08:22 PM

I guess a better question would be do you guys think BP will give Rogers another shot?

AbeBeta

01-17-2006, 08:22 PM

How would you guys feel if BP gave Jacob Rogers another shot. He is extremely talented but has had injury concerns. If the Cowboys keep him into training camp, maybe he can beat out Pettiti. If he doesn't then maybe he could make a good backup if he beats out Colombo and Tucker. Worse case scenario we cut him in preseason in the final cuts if he still sucks. I don't want to give up on him and have him turn out to be another Jimmy Smith.

I'm actually for it -- but I think that bridge is burned and that he's done here. Though he might develop later (doubtful), I think BP wants to make a clear point.

Seven

01-17-2006, 08:28 PM

I have visions of him sustaining an "injury" during the course of the season right when we need him. I don't trust the guy. So far he's shown nothing of an NFL linemen's mentality or of a NFL player for that matter. He has no nads man, no nads. I agree with abersonc....he's disappointed everyone. All the way to the top.

BadKarma

01-17-2006, 08:34 PM

I think giving Rogers another shot wouldn't be out of the question.

The real question is, does Rogers still have a strong desire to prove he can play in this league and would he want to prove it with this team?

I believe Parcells would give him every opportunity so long as Rogers shows him he has the dedication and drive to work hard during the off-season. Parcells has a lot to gain if Rogers "shows up" and becomes the "player" he thought he drafted.

CactusCowboy

01-17-2006, 08:45 PM

He is soft! I know several people who have gone to the same re-hab facilty in Dallas that he is or was going to and they cannot believe what a pansy he is.

Wolverine

01-17-2006, 08:53 PM

How would you guys feel if BP gave Jacob Rogers another shot. He is extremely talented but has had injury concerns. If the Cowboys keep him into training camp, maybe he can beat out Pettiti. If he doesn't then maybe he could make a good backup if he beats out Colombo and Tucker. Worse case scenario we cut him in preseason in the final cuts if he still sucks. I don't want to give up on him and have him turn out to be another Jimmy Smith.

I am all for givin Rogers another shot. Maybe with a little luck his injury probs are finally over. If he can stay healthy he can be a very good OL. I think the only thing that will hold him back is his injuries. To bad.

neosapien23

01-17-2006, 08:58 PM

He is soft! I know several people who have gone to the same re-hab facilty in Dallas that he is or was going to and they cannot believe what a pansy he is.

Just curious. What did they say about him?

CactusCowboy

01-17-2006, 09:05 PM

It was not positive at all. I will not repeat all that was said as two of these people are relatives. Take it for what it's worth............

neosapien23

01-17-2006, 09:11 PM

It was not positive at all. I will not repeat all that was said as two of these people are relatives. Take it for what it's worth............

I take it that your relatives work there. Would be a good reason not to repeat what they said.

Snaggletooth

01-17-2006, 10:20 PM

I'd rather give Jose Cortez another shot.:rolleyes:

Bob Sacamano

01-17-2006, 11:03 PM

maxsports

01-17-2006, 11:05 PM

No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

neosapien23

01-17-2006, 11:06 PM

I think Rogers burned his bridges in Dallas

Its true. It just seems like a shame to give up on a 2nd round pick. I guess I'm still in denial about Rogers being a bust. Seems like a waste of talent.

Bob Sacamano

01-17-2006, 11:13 PM

Its true. It just seems like a shame to give up on a 2nd round pick. I guess I'm still in denial about Rogers being a bust. Seems like a waste of talent.

yeah, it sucks big-time, but time to move on, a deep and very rich class for OTs in the draft this year, we won't regret the Jacob Roger's fiasco for too long IMO

neosapien23

01-17-2006, 11:25 PM

yeah, it sucks big-time, but time to move on, a deep and very rich class for OTs in the draft this year, we won't regret the Jacob Roger's fiasco for too long IMO

Assumming Parcells takes a tackle. Don't be surpised if McNeil is there and he trades down and takes Manny Lawson the Ware Clone instead. BP had a history of going defense heavy in the draft despite offensive needs.

Bob Sacamano

01-17-2006, 11:54 PM

Assumming Parcells takes a tackle. Don't be surpised if McNeil is there and he trades down and takes Manny Lawson the Ware Clone instead. BP had a history of going defense heavy in the draft despite offensive needs.

deep class for OTs, there will be a good one in the 2nd

neosapien23

01-17-2006, 11:55 PM

deep class for OTs, there will be a good one in the 2nd

Not if Houston, Green Bay, and Detroit take the last ones in the 2nd.

Bob Sacamano

01-17-2006, 11:56 PM

Not if Houston, Green Bay, and Detroit take the last ones in the 2nd.

and if they don't? the possibility for either scenario is large

neosapien23

01-18-2006, 12:01 AM

and if they don't? the possibility for either scenario is large

True but I'm going to be sweatin bullets until we get a tackle. Its 50/50.

Bob Sacamano

01-18-2006, 12:07 AM

btw, in a recent chat, Mel Kiper believes, at the moment, that Boise State OT Darryn Colledge will go in the 3rd round, he has excellent potential, just is light

JackMagist

01-18-2006, 12:08 AM

He is soft! I know several people who have gone to the same re-hab facilty in Dallas that he is or was going to and they cannot believe what a pansy he is.I have read where several other players who were in the locker room with Rogers have said (off the record) that he was a big wuss. I don't see BP giving him another shot here with that type of reputation and I would never trust him if he did get another shot here.

neosapien23

01-18-2006, 12:10 AM

I have read where several other players who were in the locker room with Rogers have said (off the record) that he was a big wuss. I don't see BP giving him another shot here with that type of reputation and I would never trust him if he did get another shot here.

What did those players say? Maybe there is more to Jerry wanting to cut this guy then just dissappointement?

JackMagist

01-18-2006, 12:14 AM

What did those players say? Maybe there is more to Jerry wanting to cut this guy then just dissappointement?Basically the same thing that has been said here; that he was soft, that he couldn't take the pain that is a fact of life in the NFL, that he was a whiner, etc. It seemed to be the consencious that he was not injured badly enough to come out of the game much less go for sergury that last time around. Parcells will not tolerate that kind of player IMO.

neosapien23

01-18-2006, 12:17 AM

Basically the same thing that has been said here; that he was soft, that he couldn't take the pain that is a fact of life in the NFL, that he was a whiner, etc. It seemed to be the consencious that he was not injured badly enough to come out of the game much less go for sergury that last time around. Parcells will not tolerate that kind of player IMO.

If your teammates are saying that about you, then you are done!

Bob Sacamano

01-18-2006, 12:22 AM

one of the ways to gain Parcells' respect and trust, is to play throught pain, and clearly Jacob ROgers hasn't shown that propensity, the reason BP won't take the trouble of bringing him back

Qwickdraw

01-18-2006, 01:03 AM

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Bob Sacamano

01-18-2006, 01:07 AM

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/530/jacobrogerspacifier8bf.jpg

to the draft forum!

Dayton Cowboy

01-18-2006, 06:19 AM

Assumming Parcells takes a tackle. Don't be surpised if McNeil is there and he trades down and takes Manny Lawson the Ware Clone instead. BP had a history of going defense heavy in the draft despite offensive needs.

I'd rather take Bobby Carpenter to play the other OLB spot..

TruBlueCowboy

01-18-2006, 06:24 AM

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/530/jacobrogerspacifier8bf.jpg
:laugh1:

Chuck 54

01-18-2006, 06:48 AM

I think we'll definitely give him another shot. After clearing waivers, we never came to an injury settlement so we could release him, did we? I believe he's still our property. There must be a reason for that.

CrazyCowboy

01-18-2006, 06:54 AM

I say give him a shot because we did invest a 2nd rd valuable pick in the guy!

MDCowboy

01-18-2006, 06:55 AM

How would you guys feel if BP gave Jacob Rogers another shot. He is extremely talented but has had injury concerns. If the Cowboys keep him into training camp, maybe he can beat out Pettiti. If he doesn't then maybe he could make a good backup if he beats out Colombo and Tucker. Worse case scenario we cut him in preseason in the final cuts if he still sucks. I don't want to give up on him and have him turn out to be another Jimmy Smith.

I am not oppose to giving him another shot. What do they have to lose? He still has a chance to be a solid contributor to the team.

sago1

01-18-2006, 06:59 AM

And it could have been avoided if Parcells hadn't overriden advice from scouting department. But it possible Parcells ignored their advice cause he had little trust in Lacewell. Doubt that happens again with Ireland in charge.

BTW re Rogers. Rogers showed in 05 offseason that he was a hard worker & Parcells very pleased with him; both Parcells & Riveria praised Rogers workouts, etc. Problem survived with his attitude in TC towards playing hurt. Bu do think Parcells pushes playing hurt a little too much; believe we lost Henry (who had no history of injuries) cause Parcells pushed him to come back soo son from groin injury which caused Henry to rehurt groin in practice & he didn't play rest of season. Groin & some knee/head injuries can't be played around with.