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Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:02 PM
Since Payton has always been in love with Romo maybe he'll pull a Holmgren and make an offer for his backup QB. Since we turned down a third rounder from the Jets, that would mean a 2nd rounder from the Saints?

That would allow the Saints to take a non-QB with their 1st rounder and avoid the growing pains and risk of developing a young QB (?Leinart/Young). They could use that pick on another impact player (D'Brickshaw Ferguson).

Cowboys could then sign a vet to play backup next year while Henson learns in NFL Europe.

Bob Sacamano
01-17-2006, 10:03 PM
I'd be open to it

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:09 PM
Romo would have to sign an extension and you figure he would love to jump the Cowboys ship because he'll never start here so long as Bledsoe has a pulse. It almost makes too much sense. There were rumours that Payton wanted to play Romo over Quincy in his rookie year in 2003.

Maikeru-sama
01-17-2006, 10:11 PM
I would rather send Henson instead.

Or

Maybe both for a a cup of coffee and some free tickets....


Or

If Adrian Mcpherson is still on the squad, I would not mind doing a straight up trade.


- Mike G.

Maikeru-sama
01-17-2006, 10:12 PM
It almost makes too much sense. There were rumours that Payton wanted to play Romo over Quincy in his rookie year in 2003.

Where did you hear that?

- Mike G.

SkinsandTerps
01-17-2006, 10:12 PM
Not going to happen.

Aaron Brooks, Adrian McPherson, and Todd Bouman (sp?) and a top pick.

big dog cowboy
01-17-2006, 10:12 PM
With Todd Bouman and Adrian McPherson on their roster, I doubt Romo is even on the radar screen.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:19 PM
With Todd Bouman and Adrian McPherson on their roster, I doubt Romo is even on the radar screen.

Presumably Payton has some sway and his "love affair" with Romo is well known. Romo is the guy who broke his records at Eastern Illinois at QB.

Anyhow, all just idle speculation. It only comes to mind because that is what Holmgren did when he left GB - he traded for Hasselbeck - the QB that he knew who he thought would succeed in his system. It worked out pretty good for him.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:21 PM
I would rather send Henson instead.

Or

Maybe both for a a cup of coffee and some free tickets....


Or

If Adrian Mcpherson is still on the squad, I would not mind doing a straight up trade.


- Mike G.

I'm sure BP would rather trade Henson, too. However, Romo is the one that Payton has always liked so that is more likely going to be the deal.

I doubt we would go after McPherson - we allegedly turned down a 3rd rounder from the Jets for Romo. Payton must have been part of that decision which means he values him more than a 3rd rounder.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:22 PM
With Todd Bouman and Adrian McPherson on their roster, I doubt Romo is even on the radar screen.

Those are the QBs from the old regime meant to fit with the philosophy of the old regime.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:23 PM
Not going to happen.

Aaron Brooks, Adrian McPherson, and Todd Bouman (sp?) and a top pick.

Brooks is supposed to be getting his walking papers.

Since when is McPherson well thought of in the league? What has Bouman proven?

Romo is definitely a Payton favourite.

Maikeru-sama
01-17-2006, 10:26 PM
I'm sure BP would rather trade Henson, too. However, Romo is the one that Payton has always liked so that is more likely going to be the deal.

I doubt we would go after McPherson - we allegedly turned down a 3rd rounder from the Jets for Romo. Payton must have been part of that decision which means he values him more than a 3rd rounder.

Oh okay, I see your logic.

I would rather keep Romo over Henson just judging by how they both played (or didnt play :laugh2: in the Preason)

Again, I understand Henson was the guy that got into the Games in 2004 and that it is pretty foolish to just go off of the Preseason, but hey, their resume's are pretty short, so one only has a small amount of data to go off of.

I wonder what the Organization's view on Adrian Mcpherson is. I may have to find a good Orleans board and ask them that question.

- Mike G.

wileedog
01-17-2006, 10:27 PM
Romo is definitely a Payton favourite.

Matt Leinart will probably be a bigger favorite.

SkinsandTerps
01-17-2006, 10:33 PM
Brooks is supposed to be getting his walking papers.

Since when is McPherson well thought of in the league? What has Bouman proven?

Romo is definitely a Payton favourite.

I need to take a peek at what his contract looks like, but I dont think Brooks will be leaving just yet.

McPherson was drafted for a reason, he may not be up to speed just yet. But he still has a decent upside. Bouman on the other hand sucks.

The issue becomes that top pick. They could take any QB they want.

big dog cowboy
01-17-2006, 10:40 PM
Those are the QBs from the old regime meant to fit with the philosophy of the old regime.
If they decide to get Leinart, who knows what they do with that position. I would guess they would get a vet instead of tossing the rookie out there but you never know,.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:57 PM
Matt Leinart will probably be a bigger favorite.

Is Leinart really a lights out prospect? I know he put up big numbers but he ran a sophisticated offense with better skill personnel than most NFL teams. His athleticism and arm strength are far from inspiring and I haven't been in awe of his accuracy. From a tools perspective, he is not a Carson Palmer or Troy Aikman.

Yet the price tag for such a QB is a monumental signing bonus - if you are wrong with your pick you are usually saddled with the player for four to five years and your career will sink or swim with him.

Would you rather do that with the player you have tutored for 3 years and think can be a successful QB from day one (Romo). A player who can be had for a second round pick and signed to a reasonable contract extension allowing your top 3 pick to be utilized on a possible future HOFer at LT who will protect his blindside for years to come.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 10:59 PM
Where did you hear that?

- Mike G.

It was rumoured during the 2004 TC after Quincy had been given his walking papers.

I can't give you a specific source but perhaps others here will remember those statements being bandied about.

Bob Sacamano
01-17-2006, 11:02 PM
now this is a conspiracy theory that makes sense

wileedog
01-17-2006, 11:06 PM
Is Leinart really a lights out prospect? I know he put up big numbers but he ran a sophisticated offense with better skill personnel than most NFL teams. His athleticism and arm strength are far from inspiring and I haven't been in awe of his accuracy. From a tools perspective, he is not a Carson Palmer or Troy Aikman.

Yet the price tag for such a QB is a monumental signing bonus - if you are wrong with your pick you are usually saddled with the player for four to five years and your career will sink or swim with him.

Would you rather do that with the player you have tutored for 3 years and think can be a successful QB from day one (Romo). A player who can be had for a second round pick and signed to a reasonable contract extension allowing your top 3 pick to be utilized on a possible future HOFer at LT who will protect his blindside for years to come.

What I would do is irrelevant.

To me the Saints letting their 5 year starter go in a season when they have a top 3 draft pick coming up and then hiring a head coach whose main selling point is his ability to work with QBs adds up to drafting him (or Young).

Not to mention Saints fans would lose their minds if NO drafted an OT in the first and then traded a 2nd for an undrafted QB who has never thrown a pass. The PR hit would be horrible for a team that needs absolutely nothing less than a horrible PR hit.

Personally from a logical standpoint I don't have a big issue with your plan - I'm not a big Leinert fan either (or Young for that matter). I just don't see any way it happens.

wileedog
01-17-2006, 11:09 PM
It was rumoured during the 2004 TC after Quincy had been given his walking papers.

I can't give you a specific source but perhaps others here will remember those statements being bandied about.

Yep, i remember hearing the same.

Although in fairness that could say as much about his opinion of Quincy as of Romo.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 11:13 PM
What I would do is irrelevant.

To me the Saints letting their 5 year starter go in a season when they have a top 3 draft pick coming up and then hiring a head coach whose main selling point is his ability to work with QBs adds up to drafting him (or Young).

Not to mention Saints fans would lose their minds if NO drafted an OT in the first and then traded a 2nd for an undrafted QB who has never thrown a pass. The PR hit would be horrible for a team that needs absolutely nothing less than a horrible PR hit.

Personally from a logical standpoint I don't have a big issue with your plan - I'm not a big Leinert fan either (or Young for that matter). I just don't see any way it happens.

Payton doesn't seem to be a lover of the mobile QB. My understanding is that he was a drop-back QB in college without athletic ability. He was never a fan of QC and apparently wanted Romo to be the starter. A lot of his acclaim is due to his work with immobile QBs such as Collins, Testaverde and Bledsoe.

So my guess is if it were up to him, he would choose Leinart over Young.

If I were an NFL GM, I would not pick either of these guys in the top 10. I really don't think there is a good enough chance that either of them will be elite in the NFL to give them a top-10 QB signing bonus.

OTOH, Ferguson looks like a potential perennial All-Pro at LT and those guys come along about every 5 years or so.

Bob Sacamano
01-17-2006, 11:15 PM
Payton doesn't seem to be a lover of the mobile QB. My understanding is that he was a drop-back QB in college without athletic ability. He was never a fan of QC and apparently wanted Romo to be the starter. A lot of his acclaim is due to his work with immobile QBs such as Collins, Testaverde and Bledsoe.

but by all accounts, ROmo is a mobile QB, in fact some compare him to a poor man's Brett Favre, well at least on here anyways

wileedog
01-17-2006, 11:18 PM
Payton doesn't seem to be a lover of the mobile QB. My understanding is that he was a drop-back QB in college without athletic ability. He was never a fan of QC and apparently wanted Romo to be the starter. A lot of his acclaim is due to his work with immobile QBs such as Collins, Testaverde and Bledsoe.

So my guess is if it were up to him, he would choose Leinart over Young.

Agree 100%.

If I were an NFL GM, I would not pick either of these guys in the top 10. I really don't think there is a good enough chance that either of them will be elite in the NFL to give them a top-10 QB signing bonus.

OTOH, Ferguson looks like a potential perennial All-Pro at LT and those guys come along about every 5 years or so.

Again, not arguing what the smart move is.

Payton is not being given GM duties with the Saints. Their moves thus far point at them wanting a top QB, and as you say above they have probably already discussed with Payton which one he would prefer - and I doubt Romo was on the choices list.

I'll be very, very surprised if they don't draft Leinart.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 11:18 PM
but by all accounts, ROmo is a mobile QB, in fact some compare him to a poor man's Brett Favre, well at least on here anyways

I guess it depends on your defintion of mobile. If you mean a guy who can slide to avoid the rush, Romo can do that.

However, if you mean guys like Vick, Culpepper and McNabb - he doesn't compare to those guys' ability to create plays with their feet.

Bob Sacamano
01-17-2006, 11:20 PM
I guess it depends on your defintion of mobile. If you mean a guy who can slide to avoid the rush, Romo can do that.

However, if you mean guys like Vick, Culpepper and McNabb - he doesn't compare to those guys' ability to create plays with their feet.

Romo can move around, he's no Mike Vick, but he's not exactly immobile, he likes to scramble and get out of the pocket

BadKarma
01-17-2006, 11:23 PM
'Mo - it's a good idea since as you say, Romo has very little chance of any playing time in the near future, barring injury. I'm sure Romo is getting inpatient and having an opportunity to continue on an offense he's familiar with is win-win situation.

But I've got my reservations on this scenario since the organization announcing Henson will be sent to Europe.

Nonetheless, I think it could be a good situation for all parties.

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 11:29 PM
'Mo - it's a good idea since as you say, Romo has very little chance of any playing time in the near future, barring injury. I'm sure Romo is getting inpatient and having an opportunity to continue on an offense he's familiar with is win-win situation.

But I've got my reservations on this scenario since the organization announcing Henson will be sent to Europe.

Nonetheless, I think it could be a good situation for all parties.

It makes too much sense for it to actually happen, of course.

As WD has pointed out, the likely choice is Leinart. Payton's job will be to develop Leinart into an NFL star. I am not liking his chances of success.

Maikeru-sama
01-17-2006, 11:29 PM
It was rumoured during the 2004 TC after Quincy had been given his walking papers.

I can't give you a specific source but perhaps others here will remember those statements being bandied about.

Cool.

Never heard that one.

- Mike G.

Hiero
01-17-2006, 11:35 PM
Theyre going to draft Leinart.

KWMIKE
01-17-2006, 11:39 PM
How about this trade? Swap 1st round picks and send Romo to the Saints. We take V. Young with the second pick in the draft.

Bob Sacamano
01-17-2006, 11:39 PM
How about this trade? Swap 1st round picks and send Romo to the Saints. We take V. Young with the second pick in the draft.

:lmao: :lmao2: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

oh, you were serious about that?

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 11:47 PM
How about this trade? Swap 1st round picks and send Romo to the Saints. We take V. Young with the second pick in the draft.

This is a more lopsided trade than the one I am suggesting.

I would certainly take it if it were offered, though. Heck, I'd throw in our second round pick, too.

However, the pick should be Ferguson, not Young.

BadKarma
01-17-2006, 11:52 PM
Theyre going to draft Leinart.
I don't doubt this. However, having Romo who is very familiar with Payton's offense would accelerate Leinart's maturation if he were to be drafted by the Saints.

They get Romo, we get Darren Howard. :ohboy:

Eskimo
01-17-2006, 11:54 PM
I don't doubt this. However, having Romo who is very familiar with Payton's offense would accelerate Leinart's maturation if he were to be drafted by the Saints.

They get Romo, we get Darren Howard. :ohboy:

Howard had a bad year and is going to be a FA this offseason - if we want him there is no point in trading for him. It will only require cash. I don't think he fits our new 3-4 scheme anyway.

CrazyCowboy
01-18-2006, 07:05 AM
I like the way you are thinking!

Nors
01-18-2006, 07:09 AM
Saints want to give us a #2 for Romo - we'll listen. Anything less go pound water.

Howard!:lmao: Let it Die. Dude was suspended and sent home last year, is vastly overpaid and underperforms. Not a need and or fit.

juice28
01-18-2006, 07:35 AM
Romo over a chance to draft Leinart or Young. I've definitely heard it all now. He'll be fired before the season starts for mentioning something as silly.

Nors
01-18-2006, 07:50 AM
Romo can move around, he's no Mike Vick, but he's not exactly immobile, he likes to scramble and get out of the pocket


Summer - what basis do you use to make that blanket statement?


I've only seen Romo - and what I have seen is a classic pocket passer who likes to get the ball out decisevly and quick. Good arm strength, touch and accuracy. Ihave not seen or read about this "likes to scramble" you speak of. Please expand on your statement.

Thanks!

Doomsday101
01-18-2006, 07:58 AM
Since Payton has always been in love with Romo maybe he'll pull a Holmgren and make an offer for his backup QB. Since we turned down a third rounder from the Jets, that would mean a 2nd rounder from the Saints?

That would allow the Saints to take a non-QB with their 1st rounder and avoid the growing pains and risk of developing a young QB (?Leinart/Young). They could use that pick on another impact player (D'Brickshaw Ferguson).

Cowboys could then sign a vet to play backup next year while Henson learns in NFL Europe.

I don't think there is anyway that NO passes on Leinart or Young and sitting at #3 one of those guys will be there. I don't think Payton is that stupid to put his 1st chance as a HC in the hands of Tony Romo.

Eskimo
01-18-2006, 08:05 AM
I don't think there is anyway that NO passes on Leinart or Young and sitting at #3 one of those guys will be there. I don't think Payton is that stupid to put his 1st chance as a HC in the hands of Tony Romo.

He is a guy that he knows and has worked with for the past three years. Payton is known as a QB guru and if he likes Romo the Saints GM would have to take his opinion quite seriously. If Payton does try to acquire Romo it will prove the Romo-lovers on the site correct - it would be a very telling statement.

Eskimo
01-18-2006, 08:06 AM
I don't think there is anyway that NO passes on Leinart or Young and sitting at #3 one of those guys will be there. I don't think Payton is that stupid to put his 1st chance as a HC in the hands of Tony Romo.

I really don't get what anyone sees in Young or Leinart. Neither looks like top 10 talent to my eyes.

Doomsday101
01-18-2006, 08:08 AM
He is a guy that he knows and has worked with for the past three years. Payton is known as a QB guru and if he likes Romo the Saints GM would have to take his opinion quite seriously. If Payton does try to acquire Romo it will prove the Romo-lovers on the site correct - it would be a very telling statement.

And Saint fans would go nuts passing up one of the top 2 QB in this upcoming draft and I would as well if I were a saints fans, it would have been the same in Dallas had they passed on Troy Aikman. Your talking a non drafted QB with no starts or a Heisman winner and or the runner up in Young. That would not be a great way to start off your career as a HC with the fans base calling for your head because you pulled a stupid stunt for a career backup QB.

juice28
01-18-2006, 08:09 AM
I really don't get what anyone sees in Young or Leinart. Neither looks like top 10 talent to my eyes.

:laugh2: :laugh1: Joke of the day! Please tell me who does. Either way that's not even the issue. Top ten or not, you're telling me Romo has more potential value than these two. You can't possibly be serious.

Doomsday101
01-18-2006, 08:10 AM
I really don't get what anyone sees in Young or Leinart. Neither looks like top 10 talent to my eyes.

You may not but scouts around the league have a different view point and both Young and Leinart are both top 5 picks in this draft with most expecting them to fall in the top 3.

Maikeru-sama
01-18-2006, 09:48 AM
Saints want to give us a #2 for Romo - we'll listen. Anything less go pound water.

Howard!:lmao: Let it Die. Dude was suspended and sent home last year, is vastly overpaid and underperforms. Not a need and or fit.

I would accept a 3rd or a straight up trade for Romo.

- Mike G.

Chocolate Lab
01-18-2006, 09:53 AM
I think the idea that Payton would want Romo is absolutely plausible. Especially if Leinart makes noise about not wanting to play in NO, which he's already hinted at.

Question is, has Parcells become just as much a Romo fan? He might have, listening to him. IMO it's obvious he doesn't like Henson, and might not want to let go of a player he's invested three years in. Then again, there are other vet QBs floating around who could sit the bench behind Bledsoe just as well, and could be had for just money and not a draft pick.

It'll be interesting. I'd bet that soon, at least some rumors of Payton's interest in Romo become public...

Waffle
01-18-2006, 10:04 AM
The whole idea is silly. It makes no sense to talk about trading a guy before we know what he can actually do on the playing field.

What if Romo ends up being a Jake Delhomme? Randy Galloway would have a field day ripping Parcells for that move.

Idgit
01-18-2006, 11:04 AM
Summer - what basis do you use to make that blanket statement?

I've only seen Romo - and what I have seen is a classic pocket passer who likes to get the ball out decisevly and quick. Good arm strength, touch and accuracy. Ihave not seen or read about this "likes to scramble" you speak of. Please expand on your statement.

Thanks!

Not my statement to defend, and with no source, but fwiw, I also recall talk about Romo's scrambling ability. I believe some of it was from Spags, and it was in the context of his being more effective than Bledsoe on designed rollouts with the pressure off the edge we were getting after we lost F Adams. That's not the same thing as a running QB, obviously.

I've been to the last two training camps myself, and agree that Romo's got decent arm strength and touch. He he wasn't nearly as accurate as Vinny or Bledsoe in scrimmages, and looked very much the career backup in the 7-on-7s--far worse than Henson did in the drills.

I do like the guy, though, and think the plan is for him to be our QB of the future unless Henson really blossoms if and when he 'gets it.' You just don't turn down a day one pick from a bad team just to keep a career backup.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 11:12 AM
Since Payton has always been in love with Romo maybe he'll pull a Holmgren and make an offer for his backup QB. Since we turned down a third rounder from the Jets, that would mean a 2nd rounder from the Saints?

That would allow the Saints to take a non-QB with their 1st rounder and avoid the growing pains and risk of developing a young QB (?Leinart/Young). They could use that pick on another impact player (D'Brickshaw Ferguson).

Cowboys could then sign a vet to play backup next year while Henson learns in NFL Europe.

I've seen some nutty sophomore crap proposals on this board, but this is one from left field that could make sense. There may also be coaches that Payton would like from Dallas, but BP and JJ have to let them go....even if it is a promotion at New Orleans. I don't know if Payton gets a woody from Romo, but if he does, there may be a way to get NO's number one pick. Interesting and reasonable.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 11:15 AM
Matt Leinart will probably be a bigger favorite.
agreed, but if he wants some Dallas coaches, too, and maybe a player along with Romo.....maybe we like Leinart that much. Thing is, I see JJ trying to pull something like that, but not BP. BP likes his QBs old..............like his women.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 11:17 AM
Is Leinart really a lights out prospect?

It's always risky drafting a QB early, but I think Leinart is, indeed, a lights out prospect.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 11:23 AM
The whole idea is silly. It makes no sense to talk about trading a guy before we know what he can actually do on the playing field.


But the premise is that Payton would know or want him.....or be willing to pass on Leinart in exchange for something he needs in NO. I don't see it happening either. I don't even think we could legally package Payton's wishlist of possible assistants to do it, as I had earlier suggested. But it could make sense if Payton really liked what he coached in Romo.

Clove
01-18-2006, 11:40 AM
The whole idea is silly. It makes no sense to talk about trading a guy before we know what he can actually do on the playing field.

What if Romo ends up being a Jake Delhomme? Randy Galloway would have a field day ripping Parcells for that move.I agree. If Payton would be so anxious to trade for Romo and pass up (could be ) Super Stars, then maybe Romo is the next franchise here.

IMO, Payton would be torched by the fans/media/ and in this world of pro Football, hype is what everyone wants. No one wants a no name guy, that's why Manning has gotten all the praise for doing nothing and Brady had to win freaking 3 Super Bowls to get praise.

jackrussell
01-18-2006, 11:52 AM
...you just got your first head coaching job in the NFL, what are you going to do now?

"I'm going to trade the 34th overall pick in this year's draft to the Dallas Cowboys for Tony Romo!!!!!!":lmao2:

Big Country
01-18-2006, 11:55 AM
Since Payton has always been in love with Romo maybe he'll pull a Holmgren and make an offer for his backup QB. Since we turned down a third rounder from the Jets, that would mean a 2nd rounder from the Saints?

That would allow the Saints to take a non-QB with their 1st rounder and avoid the growing pains and risk of developing a young QB (?Leinart/Young). They could use that pick on another impact player (D'Brickshaw Ferguson).

Cowboys could then sign a vet to play backup next year while Henson learns in NFL Europe.

what kind of regular season playing time has Romo accomplished to suggest he wont have growing pains... he has like 1 series of regular season action... I think it's less.

Plus the Saints selected a tackle in last years draft... this sounds like a Matt Millen move...

BUUUT, sheesh if NO was to give up a draft pick for Romo, heck yeah I'd do it.

:laugh2:

Doomsday101
01-18-2006, 11:57 AM
...you just got your first head coaching job in the NFL, what are you going to do now?

"I'm going to trade the 34th overall pick in this year's draft to the Dallas Cowboys for Tony Romo!!!!!!":lmao2:

That is my thought exactly. LOL You got to know the Saints fans would love that. I don't doubt that the Saints will get a QB but I doubt it will be Romo, I'm thinking more in line with the top 2 QB prospects in this year’s draft.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 11:58 AM
...you just got your first head coaching job in the NFL, what are you going to do now?

"I'm going to trade the 34th overall pick in this year's draft to the Dallas Cowboys for Tony Romo!!!!!!":lmao2:
He'd go down in history as worse than The Vikes crowd with Hershel. But maybe, release some coaches he wants from contracts, throw in your first rounder, Romo, maybe even Ellis (which beats releasing him for nothing). I can't imagine passing on Leinart, but I could see a HC that liked a QB and wanted some coaches working out some deal....it would be hard to do that with such a high pick though.

Alexander
01-18-2006, 11:59 AM
...you just got your first head coaching job in the NFL, what are you going to do now?

"I'm going to trade the 34th overall pick in this year's draft to the Dallas Cowboys for Tony Romo!!!!!!":lmao2:

:laugh2:

You can say that again.

I sometimes wonder what people are thinking when they start threads like this.

Doomsday101
01-18-2006, 12:01 PM
:laugh2:

You can say that again.

I sometimes wonder what people are thinking when they start threads like this.

You notice how many of these trades are so 1 sided? LOL I wish all these other teams were as stupid as some of our fans think they are.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 12:04 PM
This thread is the only thread on any trade proposals that I've seen that had any reason to it at all. Now the first rounder for Romo straight up...that's you schticking there jack and Doomsday...unless that was proposed earlier where I haven't read....in which case, slam away.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 12:09 PM
Theyre going to draft Leinart.
That's the reality of the thing, unless you really give them something that they want. Do we need a young QB? If you ask me, yes. If you ask Bill, traditionally, I'd say hell no. Then why else trade up this year? Trade down would make more sense.

Doomsday101
01-18-2006, 12:11 PM
This thread is the only thread on any trade proposals that I've seen that had any reason to it at all. Now the first rounder for Romo straight up...that's you schticking there jack and Doomsday...unless that was proposed earlier where I haven't read....in which case, slam away.

As part of a package it would still take a lot, Romo in reality would only bring a day 2 pick at best. Dallas would have to give up our #1 and more than romo to go from 18 to 2.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 12:16 PM
And Saint fans would go nuts passing up one of the top 2 QB in this upcoming draft and I would as well if I were a saints fans, it would have been the same in Dallas had they passed on Troy Aikman. Your talking a non drafted QB with no starts or a Heisman winner and or the runner up in Young. That would not be a great way to start off your career as a HC with the fans base calling for your head because you pulled a stupid stunt for a career backup QB.
Insane, it would be. Do they need Ellis or Romo or our Assistant coaches (which is all we have to offer along with some of our own picks)? I honestly can't see it when you put it like that Doom...Maybe I'll just read an entire thread and comment after seeing what everyone says. The thread had a reasonable premise and has degenerated into every other trade thread I've read here.

wileedog
01-18-2006, 12:22 PM
The thread had a reasonable premise and has degenerated into every other trade thread I've read here.

No, the premise is really not reasonable.

Payton is a first time HC. He doesn't have the track record or clout to walk into NO and demand to buy the groceries.

The Saints FO has made it quite clear by dumping Brooks and hiring in the Payton in the first place - whose main asset is working with QBs - that they have every intention of adding a new QB. And (hopefully) you just don't get a #3 pick every year with a top prospect (in some people's eyes) waiting there for you.

Payton could think trading for Romo is the greatest idea ever. Doesn't matter. The Saints clearly have their sights on Leinart, and are certainly not going to pass up on him for a UFA because their rookie HC says so.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 12:26 PM
No, the premise is really not reasonable.

Payton is a first time HC. He doesn't have the track record or clout to walk into NO and demand to buy the groceries.

The Saints FO has made it quite clear by dumping Brooks and hiring in the Payton in the first place - whose main asset is working with QBs - that they have every intention of adding a new QB. And (hopefully) you just don't get a #3 pick every year with a top prospect (in some people's eyes) waiting there for you.

Payton could think trading for Romo is the greatest idea ever. Doesn't matter. The Saints clearly have their sights on Leinart, and are certainly not going to pass up on him for a UFA because their rookie HC says so.
Make that it is just another bull**** trade thread that you can find at the zone.

baj1dallas
01-18-2006, 12:30 PM
:laugh2: :laugh1: Joke of the day! Please tell me who does. Either way that's not even the issue. Top ten or not, you're telling me Romo has more potential value than these two. You can't possibly be serious.

Not to mention that Lienhart was viewed as the #1 pick in last year's draft.

hipfake08
01-18-2006, 12:34 PM
Not going to happen.

Aaron Brooks, Adrian McPherson, and Todd Bouman (sp?) and a top pick.


I'll go down this road.
They will not trade a high round pick and pass on the top QB.

jackrussell
01-18-2006, 12:39 PM
This thread is the only thread on any trade proposals that I've seen that had any reason to it at all. Now the first rounder for Romo straight up...that's you schticking there jack and Doomsday...unless that was proposed earlier where I haven't read....in which case, slam away.

Wha? The original premise of the thread was NO trading their 2nd round pick for Tony Romo.

NO 2nd round pick= 34th overall selection.

marsbennett
01-18-2006, 01:14 PM
Wha? The original premise of the thread was NO trading their 2nd round pick for Tony Romo.

NO 2nd round pick= 34th overall selection.
Sorry, your response came right after my comment, but did not address anyone in particular. I saw the comment behind mine and took it the comment was directly to me when I was speaking to a subject that developed as the thread progressed. The more I read through it, the nuttier the thread got. By the time I got to where I had commented at all, I wished I'd never had said a thing to contribute to Fantasy Football Trades R Us. Go in peace and so shall I.

Bob Sacamano
01-18-2006, 02:07 PM
Summer - what basis do you use to make that blanket statement?


I've only seen Romo - and what I have seen is a classic pocket passer who likes to get the ball out decisevly and quick. Good arm strength, touch and accuracy. Ihave not seen or read about this "likes to scramble" you speak of. Please expand on your statement.

Thanks!

you do not remember reading that the coaching staff would like ROmo to stay in the pocket instead of taking off the 1st chance he gets?