Why we may be further away than some fans think

[Zaxor]

Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...

Front Office...

Offense's always take longer to build and they require time and patience...

I believe the over all direction the team took was flawed from the outset.. which was to try and quick-fix the offense and build a more aggresive defense but it should have been the other way around and patch a pretty good defense and rebuild the offense.

There has been some absolutely horrible personnel moves in Free Agency... while the teams drafting has been on par with other NFL franchises the last few years


Coaching...

I am not sure how any coach can go into a game knowing his FG kicking game is suspect and play it conservative and hope to kick a winning FG at the end of the game... it doesn't seem like a sound concept to me...


Players

It seems to take 3 years to see some of the promise these kids had coming out of college (Brady, Newman, etc...)which I don't believe is an abnormal amount of time..but it does mean that in all likely hood that unless the coaches can coach lights out or the players are exceptional that the sophmore jinx is a definite possibility..

We have the oldest set of WR's and QB in the NFL...Glenn held up well but it has not been his forte to complete an NFL season so it shouldn't be counted on again..Key has had surgery after every season he has played here, I just don't see how its not going to effect him..If we draft Wr's you have to atleast allow 3 yrs for development...

I won't go into all the positions as it has been hashed and rehashed numerous times

Other Teams

It seems strange that most fans don't believe the other teams aren't also trying to better themselves...some will have succeeded and others may not have...but what it does mean is that not only does Dallas have to improve a lot just to keep pace it has to improve a WHOLE lot of lots to get ahead of the competition...which usually means having more young players coming into their own/ having better coaching and better personnel than your competition...

While it is not impossible to improve over this year it is gonna be a tall order

but I personally believe until we take the time to rebuild the offense we are more likely to take a step back than forward...The defense may keep us in some games but in the end it will be that the offense had too many holes to quick-fix...

[WV Cowboy]

Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...


While I do agree that we need to improve our O-line first and foremost, I have thought for some time that our attitude is weak.

I see other teams flying around the ball on defense, ... showing emotion after certain big plays.
Football is an emotional sport, that you have to play with emotion. Like you said, you have to burn inside with desire.

We play like it is just a job.

I was disappointed in several games this year with our lack of effort, or apparent lack on interest, in BIG games !!

Something is wrong in Dallas.

[BigDFan5]

cancel next season!~!!

[austintodallas]

Curious why you insert a new sig pic every day of Bledsoe getting flattened by someone?

I'm sure I could pick any QB in the league and produce a similar array of unflattering pictures.

You don't like Bledsoe, we get it already.

[BigDFan5]

Curious why you insert a new sig pic every day of Bledsoe getting flattened by someone?

I'm sure I could pick any QB in the league and produce a similar array of unflattering pictures.

You don't like Bledsoe, we get it already.

Hey hes a "Cowboys" fan what did you expect? Him to have something supporting his team?

[Shaun]

Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...

Front Office...

Offense's always take longer to build and they require time and patience...

I believe the over all direction the team took was flawed from the outset.. which was to try and quick-fix the offense and build a more aggresive defense but it should have been the other way around and patch a pretty good defense and rebuild the offense.

There has been some absolutely horrible personnel moves in Free Agency... while the teams drafting has been on par with other NFL franchises the last few years


Coaching...

I am not sure how any coach can go into a game knowing his FG kicking game is suspect and play it conservative and hope to kick a winning FG at the end of the game... it doesn't seem like a sound concept to me...


Players

It seems to take 3 years to see some of the promise these kids had coming out of college (Brady, Newman, etc...)which I don't believe is an abnormal amount of time..but it does mean that in all likely hood that unless the coaches can coach lights out or the players are exceptional that the sophmore jinx is a definite possibility..

We have the oldest set of WR's and QB in the NFL...Glenn held up well but it has not been his forte to complete an NFL season so it shouldn't be counted on again..Key has had surgery after every season he has played here, I just don't see how its not going to effect him..If we draft Wr's you have to atleast allow 3 yrs for development...

I won't go into all the positions as it has been hashed and rehashed numerous times

Other Teams

It seems strange that most fans don't believe the other teams aren't also trying to better themselves...some will have succeeded and others may not have...but what it does mean is that not only does Dallas have to improve a lot just to keep pace it has to improve a WHOLE lot of lots to get ahead of the competition...which usually means having more young players coming into their own/ having better coaching and better personnel than your competition...

While it is not impossible to improve over this year it is gonna be a tall order

but I personally believe until we take the time to rebuild the offense we are more likely to take a step back than forward...The defense may keep us in some games but in the end it will be that the offense had too many holes to quick-fix...


So, uh, any actual evidence?

[superpunk]

You don't like Bledsoe, we get it already.

Bledsoe, or the Cowboys. Take your pick.

[kojak]

I agree. The team looked flat in 3 division games the second half of the season. NY beat us in a horrid game and the Skins beat us like a red headed stepchild. The team looked unprepared in all 3 games. Which is why I question if Parcells has what it takes anymore to motivate a team in a big division game.

And I know the o-line has had it share of problems/injuries. But how in the world do we go into Carolina and beat them in their house? I will tell you. That was a must win game and we came in with a gameplan and fire in our eyes. But that wasn't the case in NY and Washington. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Portland Fanatic]

Curious why you insert a new sig pic every day of Bledsoe getting flattened by someone?

I'm sure I could pick any QB in the league and produce a similar array of unflattering pictures.

You don't like Bledsoe, we get it already.


LOL...the sheer fact that he can change it everyday to a new pick should be concern enough....

[mwmilsted]

Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...

Front Office...

Offense's always take longer to build and they require time and patience...

I believe the over all direction the team took was flawed from the outset.. which was to try and quick-fix the offense and build a more aggresive defense but it should have been the other way around and patch a pretty good defense and rebuild the offense.

There has been some absolutely horrible personnel moves in Free Agency... while the teams drafting has been on par with other NFL franchises the last few years


Coaching...

I am not sure how any coach can go into a game knowing his FG kicking game is suspect and play it conservative and hope to kick a winning FG at the end of the game... it doesn't seem like a sound concept to me...


Players

It seems to take 3 years to see some of the promise these kids had coming out of college (Brady, Newman, etc...)which I don't believe is an abnormal amount of time..but it does mean that in all likely hood that unless the coaches can coach lights out or the players are exceptional that the sophmore jinx is a definite possibility..

We have the oldest set of WR's and QB in the NFL...Glenn held up well but it has not been his forte to complete an NFL season so it shouldn't be counted on again..Key has had surgery after every season he has played here, I just don't see how its not going to effect him..If we draft Wr's you have to atleast allow 3 yrs for development...

I won't go into all the positions as it has been hashed and rehashed numerous times

Other Teams

It seems strange that most fans don't believe the other teams aren't also trying to better themselves...some will have succeeded and others may not have...but what it does mean is that not only does Dallas have to improve a lot just to keep pace it has to improve a WHOLE lot of lots to get ahead of the competition...which usually means having more young players coming into their own/ having better coaching and better personnel than your competition...

While it is not impossible to improve over this year it is gonna be a tall order

but I personally believe until we take the time to rebuild the offense we are more likely to take a step back than forward...The defense may keep us in some games but in the end it will be that the offense had too many holes to quick-fix...
Good post. Also think that BP is playing the same hand as he did after
his first year with the Cowboys when the team went 10 and 6. Remember,
hw confident he seem to have it all together and little was done in the off-season to improve. Then, in training camp all hell broke loose.

I see the same scenario happening again. BP is rather over confident.

[RCowboyFan]

Bledsoe, or the Cowboys. Take your pick.

Okie, Dokie, I guess if you don't like Bledsoe as Cowboys QB, I guess you don't like Cowboys. Alrighty then, I didn't know when Bledsoe became the main symbol for Dallas Cowboys or their franchise QB?!!

[bsheeern]

:lmao2: :lmao: :laugh2: Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...

Front Office...

Offense's always take longer to build and they require time and patience...

I believe the over all direction the team took was flawed from the outset.. which was to try and quick-fix the offense and build a more aggresive defense but it should have been the other way around and patch a pretty good defense and rebuild the offense.

There has been some absolutely horrible personnel moves in Free Agency... while the teams drafting has been on par with other NFL franchises the last few years


Coaching...

I am not sure how any coach can go into a game knowing his FG kicking game is suspect and play it conservative and hope to kick a winning FG at the end of the game... it doesn't seem like a sound concept to me...


Players

It seems to take 3 years to see some of the promise these kids had coming out of college (Brady, Newman, etc...)which I don't believe is an abnormal amount of time..but it does mean that in all likely hood that unless the coaches can coach lights out or the players are exceptional that the sophmore jinx is a definite possibility..

We have the oldest set of WR's and QB in the NFL...Glenn held up well but it has not been his forte to complete an NFL season so it shouldn't be counted on again..Key has had surgery after every season he has played here, I just don't see how its not going to effect him..If we draft Wr's you have to atleast allow 3 yrs for development...

I won't go into all the positions as it has been hashed and rehashed numerous times

Other Teams

It seems strange that most fans don't believe the other teams aren't also trying to better themselves...some will have succeeded and others may not have...but what it does mean is that not only does Dallas have to improve a lot just to keep pace it has to improve a WHOLE lot of lots to get ahead of the competition...which usually means having more young players coming into their own/ having better coaching and better personnel than your competition...

While it is not impossible to improve over this year it is gonna be a tall order

but I personally believe until we take the time to rebuild the offense we are more likely to take a step back than forward...The defense may keep us in some games but in the end it will be that the offense had too many holes to quick-fix...:lmao2: :lmao: :laugh2:
What's in the water in Germany?

[bsheeern]

Good post. Also think that BP is playing the same hand as he did after
his first year with the Cowboys when the team went 10 and 6. Remember,
hw confident he seem to have it all together and little was done in the off-season to improve. Then, in training camp all hell broke loose.

I see the same scenario happening again. BP is rather over confident.
You mean when Quincy failed a drug test and was kicked of the team.
Parcells is a moron and should have seen that coming. What an Idiot.:rolleyes:

[DragonCowboy]

Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...


umm, after the Cowboys got killed by the Redskins, they played their hearts out against the Panthers. I didn't see the Rams game, but seeing how they played against the Panthers, its obvious they wanted it, it was just too late.

Don't post these things if you have no base, don't kid yourself, we were an injury away from running away with the division.

[superpunk]

Okie, Dokie, I guess if you don't like Bledsoe as Cowboys QB, I guess you don't like Cowboys. Alrighty then, I didn't know when Bledsoe became the main symbol for Dallas Cowboys or their franchise QB?!!

It's fine to not like Bledsoe. Hell, I don't really like him. Some people just have nothing good to say about anything.

[WV Cowboy]

Curious why you insert a new sig pic every day of Bledsoe getting flattened by someone?

I'm sure I could pick any QB in the league and produce a similar array of unflattering pictures.

You don't like Bledsoe, we get it already.
If he can "insert a new sig pic every day of Bledsoe getting flattened by someone," doesn't that just reinforce the issue of our O-line sucking mud ?
:rolleyes:

[wileedog]

Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

And we know they don't how?

They were in every single game this year except the Washington fiasco (and arguably the Rams, but who cares). This team got punched early in multiple games and climbed back in it.


Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...

*yawn*

Front Office...

Offense's always take longer to build and they require time and patience...

I believe the over all direction the team took was flawed from the outset.. which was to try and quick-fix the offense and build a more aggresive defense but it should have been the other way around and patch a pretty good defense and rebuild the offense.
I couldn't disagree more.

Every single team in the playoffs except the Giants and NE were in the top 10 in defense. There is no quicker way to turn around a team.

And I'm not sure I even agree with you that offenses take longer to fix.

There has been some absolutely horrible personnel moves in Free Agency... while the teams drafting has been on par with other NFL franchises the last few years
Guess what, the FA moves have been pretty on par with other teams too. FA is hit or miss.

Coaching...

I am not sure how any coach can go into a game knowing his FG kicking game is suspect and play it conservative and hope to kick a winning FG at the end of the game... it doesn't seem like a sound concept to me...

Wow you're right.

Its a much, much better idea to go to a spread offense and throw the ball around with a craptastic offensive line and immobile QB.

You nailed that one.

(BTW, anyone else see the irony here of a unabashed Bledsoe critic being unhappy that we didn't throw the ball more?)


Players

It seems to take 3 years to see some of the promise these kids had coming out of college (Brady, Newman, etc...)which I don't believe is an abnormal amount of time..but it does mean that in all likely hood that unless the coaches can coach lights out or the players are exceptional that the sophmore jinx is a definite possibility..
Well, good news for Peterman and Johnson then.

We have the oldest set of WR's and QB in the NFL...Glenn held up well but it has not been his forte to complete an NFL season so it shouldn't be counted on again..Key has had surgery after every season he has played here, I just don't see how its not going to effect him..If we draft Wr's you have to atleast allow 3 yrs for development...
See above about the fixing the defense first thing.

I won't go into all the positions as it has been hashed and rehashed numerous times
Read: i don't have time to make up bad crap about *everybody*

Other Teams

It seems strange that most fans don't believe the other teams aren't also trying to better themselves...some will have succeeded and others may not have...but what it does mean is that not only does Dallas have to improve a lot just to keep pace it has to improve a WHOLE lot of lots to get ahead of the competition...which usually means having more young players coming into their own/ having better coaching and better personnel than your competition...
And a lot of teams are going to get worse next year.

Its the way the whole thing works.

And it has nothing to do with whether we improve as a team or not.

but I personally believe until we take the time to rebuild the offense we are more likely to take a step back than forward...The defense may keep us in some games but in the end it will be that the offense had too many holes to quick-fix...
Well why don't we wait and see what we do this offseason before writing obituaries then, hmmm?

[jterrell]

And we know they don't how?
?

I appreciate your effort but honestly answering sky is falling posts with such flimsy premises is just granting an audience to an attention seeker.

[Maikeru-sama]

Sup Zaxor

You make some good points. Personally, I think all this team needs is to draft a Offensive Takle in the 1st Round and get a solid kicker like Mike Vanderjact.

Without getting into too much detail, as this subject has been beaten to death, I think those two fixes give us maybe 1-3 Wins this year if we had those things available.

Oh, I didnt notice you were changing your sig line everyday, kind of hilarous.

Funny, people have a problem with something harmless like that but it doesnt compare to some of the vicious stuff I saw when Hutchinson was on the team and when Quincy was on the team. I dont remember too much being said when those two guys were taking it :).

- Mike G.

[Bach]

Sup Zaxor

You make some good points. Personally, I think all this team needs is to draft a Offensive Takle in the 1st Round and get a solid kicker like Mike Vanderjact.

Without getting into too much detail, as this subject has been beaten to death, I think those two fixes give us maybe 1-3 Wins this year if we had those things available.


Those, imo, are our two biggest needs. But I'm not sure if that's the proper way to address them. A rookie OT and an idiot kicker might not get er done.

I'm not opposed to drafting an OT early, but I'm not sure one will help us right away. I obviously think a 1st round OT would be much better than a rookie 6th round OT, but from what I've read, I'm not sure BP and Jerry want to risk that spot on a rookie.

[Bob Sacamano]

And we know they don't how?

They were in every single game this year except the Washington fiasco (and arguably the Rams, but who cares). This team got punched early in multiple games and climbed back in it.




*yawn*


I couldn't disagree more.

Every single team in the playoffs except the Giants and NE were in the top 10 in defense. There is no quicker way to turn around a team.

And I'm not sure I even agree with you that offenses take longer to fix.


Guess what, the FA moves have been pretty on par with other teams too. FA is hit or miss.



Wow you're right.

Its a much, much better idea to go to a spread offense and throw the ball around with a craptastic offensive line and immobile QB.

You nailed that one.

(BTW, anyone else see the irony here of a unabashed Bledsoe critic being unhappy that we didn't throw the ball more?)



Well, good news for Peterman and Johnson then.


See above about the fixing the defense first thing.


Read: i don't have time to make up bad crap about *everybody*


And a lot of teams are going to get worse next year.

Its the way the whole thing works.

And it has nothing to do with whether we improve as a team or not.


Well why don't we wait and see what we do this offseason before writing obituaries then, hmmm?

dude, you wasted your time

[Bach]

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...


We have the oldest set of WR's and QB in the NFL...Glenn held up well but it has not been his forte to complete an NFL season so it shouldn't be counted on again..Key has had surgery after every season he has played here, I just don't see how its not going to effect him..If we draft Wr's you have to atleast allow 3 yrs for development...


Besides OT and PK, I think these are legit concerns.

I would be more concerned with attitude if we had layed an egg in Carolina as well. But even given that win, I have no idea how we come out flat with the division on the line at NY and especially with everything on the line in Washington against a team we should've been up for after what happened the first go around. I'm not too concerend with the Rams game. I guess it would've been good to see these guys flying around even though they knew it was meaningless. But it would've been hard to be fired up knowing your season ended right before kickoff.

As for the QB and WR situation, I totally agree. Even if we have Bledsoe starting in '06, after three years here BP should've had someone in place now behind him who could be viewed as a legit replacement. And the same thing could be said at WR. Key and Glenn have done better than expected, but I don't see Crayton as being more than a #3 guy. We really need to be thinking about more than just right this second. And even if we are just thinking about the absolute present, I'm not sure Bledsoe, Key and Glenn will be enough. As a short term solution, fine. But we're entering BP's 4th season and still havene't addressed either area for the long term.

[Maikeru-sama]

Those, imo, are our two biggest needs. But I'm not sure if that's the proper way to address them. A rookie OT and an idiot kicker might not get er done.

I'm not opposed to drafting an OT early, but I'm not sure one will help us right away. I obviously think a 1st round OT would be much better than a rookie 6th round OT, but from what I've read, I'm not sure BP and Jerry want to risk that spot on a rookie.

No, Mr. Parcells is not that big on taking Tackles in the 1st Round. He favors taking defensive players.

If you think about it, once Flozell Adams went down, what did we do? We ended up having Torrin Tucker and Rob Petitti out on the field at the same time. You ended up having to protect both of those Tackles and the 2nd Giants Game is the very best example of how that can literally destroy and offense, especially if you go to the very extreme like we did.

Check this out.

You have Flozell Adams, Larry Allen, Al Johnson, Marco Rivera and a Rooke Tackle like Marcus McNeil or Jonathan Scott.

Most teams cant afford to have studs at every position on the line, you are going to have problem areas like Al Johnson and Marco Rivera (who the jury is still out on anyway).

The 1st Round Tackle cant be possibly worst than Petitti. At worst you have to help him out maybe the 1st half of the season.

This allows you to:

--Let Jason Witten go back to playing Tight End and scaring the absolute crap out of defenses.

--Allows Bledsoe more protection

--Allows Terry Glenn to get deeper on his routes

--Allows Keyshawn Johnson a little bit more time to get some separation and run deeper out routes and patters over the middle

--Allows Parcells to become more aggressive in the Passing Game

--Should provide some better run blocking, which that is what Marcus Mcneil is extremely good at, he is the perfect solution

Of course, for brevity, I wont get into all the things the above would do for the defense.

And with a Kicker like Vanderjact that was 14/15 in the Playoffs, I believe for his career, it would allow Parcells to play his type of football, which most of the time means the games will be close.

Man, you get Vanderjact and Marcus Mcneil in here, I have to think they are good for maybe 1-3 Games, going on what happened last year.

- Mike G.

[BigDFan5]

No, Mr. Parcells is not that big on taking Tackles in the 1st Round. He favors taking defensive players.

If you think about it, once Flozell Adams went down, what did we do? We ended up having Torrin Tucker and Rob Petitti out on the field at the same time. You ended up having to protect both of those Tackles and the 2nd Giants Game is the very best example of how that can literally destroy and offense, especially if you go to the very extreme like we did.

Check this out.

You have Flozell Adams, Larry Allen, Al Johnson, Marco Rivera and a Rooke Tackle like Marcus McNeil or Jonathan Scott.

Most teams cant afford to have studs at every position on the line, you are going to have problem areas like Al Johnson and Marco Rivera (who the jury is still out on anyway).

The 1st Round Tackle cant be possibly worst than Petitti. At worst you have to help him out maybe the 1st half of the season.

This allows you to:

--Let Jason Witten go back to playing Tight End and scaring the absolute crap out of defenses.

--Allows Bledsoe more protection

--Allows Terry Glenn to get deeper on his routes

--Allows Keyshawn Johnson a little bit more time to get some separation and run deeper out routes and patters over the middle

--Allows Parcells to become more aggressive in the Passing Game

--Should provide some better run blocking, which that is what Marcus Mcneil is extremely good at, he is the perfect solution

Of course, for brevity, I wont get into all the things the above would do for the defense.

And with a Kicker like Vanderjact that was 14/15 in the Playoffs, I believe for his career, it would allow Parcells to play his type of football, which most of the time means the games will be close.

Man, you get Vanderjact and Marcus Mcneil in here, I have to think they are good for maybe 1-3 Games, going on what happened last year.

- Mike G.


But who is to say the rookie OT will be ready to start opening day? Who is to say he wont suck worse than Pettiti his rookie year? Then we are right back where we started. that is why IMO we will get a FA RT and draft depth later

[junk]

The one good point Zaxor made was about leaders. Who are the leaders on this team?

Its filled with a bunch of high character guys that certainly don't see very vocal or fiery on the field.

Hard to take Key too seriously when he is yelling and screaming.

It'd be nice to have some natural leader that the team rallies around.

[Maikeru-sama]

But who is to say the rookie OT will be ready to start opening day? Who is to say he wont suck worse than Pettiti his rookie year? Then we are right back where we started. that is why IMO we will get a FA RT and draft depth later

Go back and take a look at the context of what I was writing.

It's all hypothetical, best case scenario.

Anybody you take in the Draft, Round 1 all the way down to Mr. Irrelevant is a crap shoot.

We have brought guys in here like Marco Rivera and Ryan Young. And yes, we have drafted lineman as well.

This draft is a draft for those teams that really need to shore up the Tackle position. There are 2-3 Guys that most seem to be very high on.

Heck, will they work out, who the hell knows. But that is the very nature of the draft, taking a risk.

The offense has to be addressed at some point. The most glaring needs on this team was Tackle, Kicker and probably Safety or Outside Linebacker.

There are going to be some good Tackles at 18, so why on earth wouldnt you pick one?

- Mike G.

[Alexander]

IMO we will get a FA RT

Sorry I laughed. Yes, I am juvenile at times.

[Bach]

No, Mr. Parcells is not that big on taking Tackles in the 1st Round. He favors taking defensive players.

Check this out.

You have Flozell Adams, Larry Allen, Al Johnson, Marco Rivera and a Rooke Tackle like Marcus McNeil or Jonathan Scott.

And with a Kicker like Vanderjact that was 14/15 in the Playoffs, I believe for his career, it would allow Parcells to play his type of football, which most of the time means the games will be close.

Man, you get Vanderjact and Marcus Mcneil in here, I have to think they are good for maybe 1-3 Games, going on what happened last year.

- Mike G.

Hey, I'm not opposed to taking an OT in the first. Now, I don't want to see us reach for one and bypass better talent, but if one is among the BPA at #18 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I've seen some names bandied around of guys we may take in FA and I really don't want to see us collect any more 32, 34, 35 year old OL. We need to get some heavy duty young horses.

Also, there's no doubt the loss of Flo was huge. He was vastly underrated. I'd like to see him come back 100% and then play with an attitude of having something to prove.

As for Vanderjact, I was joking about the idiot kicker thing. He would be a huge upgrade over what we have. Even Vinateri missed a FG this past weekend.

We also really need a good solid FS and quality young WR.

[RCowboyFan]

It's fine to not like Bledsoe. Hell, I don't really like him. Some people just have nothing good to say about anything.

Ok, I see that point. But in Zaxor's case, I don't believe he has been negative on everything cowboys. I know a few you can say that about though. But I get your point.

[Maikeru-sama]

Hard to take Key too seriously when he is yelling and screaming.

It'd be nice to have some natural leader that the team rallies around.

Had to love it when he felt the need to get on Rob Petitti or the kicker when they mess up

But....

When he fumbled during the Rams game, decided to go to the sidelines and start yelling at everybody and of course, Bill "tough love" Parcells had to tell him to Shud-up about 2 million times...

[Maikeru-sama]

Hey, I'm not opposed to taking an OT in the first. Now, I don't want to see us reach for one and bypass better talent, but if one is among the BPA at #18 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I've seen some names bandied around of guys we may take in FA and I really don't want to see us collect any more 32, 34, 35 year old OL. We need to get some heavy duty young horses.

Also, there's no doubt the loss of Flo was huge. He was vastly underrated. I'd like to see him come back 100% and then play with an attitude of having something to prove.

As for Vanderjact, I was joking about the idiot kicker thing. He would be a huge upgrade over what we have. Even Vinateri missed a FG this past weekend.

We also really need a good solid FS and quality young WR.

Yeah, unfortunately this is a weak draft for Wide Receivers but Mel Kiper, in his Chat wrap up said the 2007 Draft has the potential to be loaded with extremely gifted receivers.

I still felt this was a Playoff team, but adding a Kicker and a Top Flight Tackle who pans out, one would really have to consider the Cowboys as one of the favorites to get into the Post Season in 2006.

[BigDFan5]

Sorry I laughed. Yes, I am juvenile at times.


hahahaha I didnt even notice that

[DallasCowpoke111]

What's in the water in Germany?

Hops and barley.

[Clove]

Have you ever thought of this Zaxor? Maybe we're just not good enough yet.

You can have all the fight and whatever you want, but the fact is, we need a few more pieces and I think the FO knows this. I don't think they need to log onto the zone to figure it out.

And you must be sippin on some serious **** back in Germany to think that you build an offense first. A dominating defense with a good offense will win super bowls every day, sunday thru saturday, may day, yesterday, and the day after. Remember that.

[WV Cowboy]

Sorry I laughed. Yes, I am juvenile at times.
Hey Alexander, I'm 51 and I laughed when I read it for the first time !!

[mr.jameswoods]

But who is to say the rookie OT will be ready to start opening day? Who is to say he wont suck worse than Pettiti his rookie year? Then we are right back where we started. that is why IMO we will get a FA RT and draft depth later

first round pick vs. sixth round pick.....hmmmm?

[dougonthebench]

first round pick vs. sixth round pick.....hmmmm?


Ryan Leaf = 1st round pick
Tom Brady=6th round pick
Hmmmmmmmmm...........................

[Maikeru-sama]

Ryan Leaf = 1st round pick
Tom Brady=6th round pick
Hmmmmmmmmm...........................


All the guy is saying that if you are an odds man, 1st Rounders generally work out alot better than 6th Rounders.

- Mike G.

[mr.jameswoods]

Ryan Leaf = 1st round pick
Tom Brady=6th round pick
Hmmmmmmmmm...........................

You are right. Let's try drafting our next QB let alone any other key player in later rounds since late round players have statistically been shown to outperform their early round counterparts.

[BigDFan5]

first round pick vs. sixth round pick.....hmmmm?


Rookie vs rookie

[BigDFan5]

All the guy is saying that if you are an odds man, 1st Rounders generally work out alot better than 6th Rounders.

- Mike G.


and all I am saying is do you take a sure thing in FA a player that HAS performed on the NFL level or do you take a 50-50 shot at RT in a year we are trying to "win now"

[mr.jameswoods]

and all I am saying is do you take a sure thing in FA a player that HAS performed on the NFL level or do you take a 50-50 shot at RT in a year we are trying to "win now"

What sure thing free agent RT's will be available next season?

And I'm a person who believes in the idea that you get what you pay for. Sure, sometimes you can get lucky and grab a Hall of Famer like Tom Brady in the 6th round. Some people win the lottery too.

But the reality is that a first round pick is likely going to outpeform a 6th round pick.

[Jarv]

Here is why we may not be as close as some fans think we are...

First off attitude...

You have to want it... you got to burn inside with it...

Our Beloved Cowboys come out of the bye against Philly and they should have been pumped and ready but looked flat. I had at first thought it was the week after bye blues or even the death of Bill Parcells brother but it continued the rest of the season culminating in that pathetic performance against the Rams...No burn in them what so ever...

Front Office...

Offense's always take longer to build and they require time and patience...

I believe the over all direction the team took was flawed from the outset.. which was to try and quick-fix the offense and build a more aggresive defense but it should have been the other way around and patch a pretty good defense and rebuild the offense.

There has been some absolutely horrible personnel moves in Free Agency... while the teams drafting has been on par with other NFL franchises the last few years


Coaching...

I am not sure how any coach can go into a game knowing his FG kicking game is suspect and play it conservative and hope to kick a winning FG at the end of the game... it doesn't seem like a sound concept to me...


Players

It seems to take 3 years to see some of the promise these kids had coming out of college (Brady, Newman, etc...)which I don't believe is an abnormal amount of time..but it does mean that in all likely hood that unless the coaches can coach lights out or the players are exceptional that the sophmore jinx is a definite possibility..

We have the oldest set of WR's and QB in the NFL...Glenn held up well but it has not been his forte to complete an NFL season so it shouldn't be counted on again..Key has had surgery after every season he has played here, I just don't see how its not going to effect him..If we draft Wr's you have to atleast allow 3 yrs for development...

I won't go into all the positions as it has been hashed and rehashed numerous times

Other Teams

It seems strange that most fans don't believe the other teams aren't also trying to better themselves...some will have succeeded and others may not have...but what it does mean is that not only does Dallas have to improve a lot just to keep pace it has to improve a WHOLE lot of lots to get ahead of the competition...which usually means having more young players coming into their own/ having better coaching and better personnel than your competition...

While it is not impossible to improve over this year it is gonna be a tall order

but I personally believe until we take the time to rebuild the offense we are more likely to take a step back than forward...The defense may keep us in some games but in the end it will be that the offense had too many holes to quick-fix...

Good post Bro ! Thanks !

[Maikeru-sama]

and all I am saying is do you take a sure thing in FA a player that HAS performed on the NFL level or do you take a 50-50 shot at RT in a year we are trying to "win now"

Like Marco Rivera, a FA.

or

Like Rogers and Peterman, Drafted Rookies.

It's all about inside knowledge, familiarity with the player, and a little bit of luck.

I have been told that this is the year of the Offensive Tackle. I check with my Draft Department, see what they think and go from there. If they place high values on a player in the Draft, I fill my need there.

Some people want Backus and others want Barry. I am very unfamiliar with these players, although I here Lions' fans are generally unhappy with Backus.

I do not like building my team through Free Agency.

I do no this.

Free Agency is more wide open then the draft. We pick at number 18, if a player is there that we need, we should take him.

Now Free Agency is a whole different can of warms. If some of these Free Agents are worth getting, trust me, the Cowboys are not the only ones that have them in their Crosshairs.

Personally, I am not all that concerned about winning now. I know Parcells, Jerry and alot of fans are extremely concerned about this.

I rather get some young and talented players in here and we try to win every game we possibly can as opposed to overpaying for Free Agents to win now.

- mike g.

- Mike G.

[DLCassidy]

We pick at number 18, if a player is there that we need, we should take him.



Tough to argue with this.:laugh2:

[Fletch]

cancel next season!~!!

:laugh2: Yeah, I love all the sports psychologists on this board who can disect the heart of our players. ;)

[Thefourteenthwarrior]

Well at some point i believe the players have to be held accountable. However in defense of parcells, the problems with this team were not heart or desire or even overconfidence, but i just think there were too many to overcome. The o-line was an injury away from being inept and it happened. That was a major problem, and then there is zimmer. This guy is the most non creative def coordinator in the league. I have never seen such a passive def in my life. This scheme has not changed whether we run a 3-4 or a 4-3 alignment, it puts too much pressure on the d line to create pressure without any pressure from the blitz, and we still manage with 7 defenders in pass coverage to give up big passing plays, i don't understand it. The other thing is usually a team gets its identity (the good teams anyway) from the defense, we don't because we can't. Everybody here probably hates the redskins but respects what they did on def. When you force the action on def, influence the action so to speak, good things happen turnovers 3 and outs. Our def because of the scheme has to wait for the other team to make a mistake and it usually doesn't happen. I watch other teams play and i realize its time for their playmaker to make a play i.e. dwight freeney, jason taylor, polomalou and the list goes on. Roy used to be that guy but teams have schemed to stay away from him and now he's useless, until the other team needs a big play that is. So while the majority of our problems lay on def remember that parcells was handicapped on offense too.

[BigDFan5]

What sure thing free agent RT's will be available next season?

And I'm a person who believes in the idea that you get what you pay for. Sure, sometimes you can get lucky and grab a Hall of Famer like Tom Brady in the 6th round. Some people win the lottery too.

But the reality is that a first round pick is likely going to outpeform a 6th round pick.


and its even more likley a OT that has shown he can oplay in the league will out perform someone who has not played

[BigDFan5]

:laugh2: Yeah, I love all the sports psychologists on this board who can disect the heart of our players. ;)


amazing isn't it!