View Full Version : Bad move Parcells letting the Skins sign Al Saunders'
Gryphon
01-19-2006, 06:39 PM
Redskins will hire Chiefs offensive coordinator Al Saunders for the same position in Washington.
It's a shocker because 1) Saunders was reportedly the favorite for the Oakland job. 2) He's making a lateral move. 3) Joe Gibbs is supposed to run the offense. Still, Washington almost certainly will pay Saunders more as a coordinator than Al Davis would as a head coach and Gibbs could use some help on offense. Saunders should immediatley upgrade the Redskins offense, especially Santana Moss and Chris Cooley.
Jan. 19 - 3:21 pm et
Source: Kansas City Star
Offensive coordinator Al Saunders' new contract with the Redskins is for three years and more than $2 million per season.
Washington is now paying it's top three coaches over $10 million per season. It's a smart approach. In a market when average cornerbacks get $8-$12 million signing bonuses, why wouldn't an owner fork over a few extra million on proven coaches? Miami and Washington's spending could lead to talk about a salary cap for coaching staffs.
Jan. 19 - 6:14 pm et
Dave_in-NC
01-19-2006, 06:42 PM
Didnt look like a big money coaching job to me.
InmanRoshi
01-19-2006, 06:43 PM
Bill Parcells is really all powerfull when he can prevent another NFL team from signing coaches.
fortdick
01-19-2006, 06:44 PM
What was Bill supposed to do? Veto it?
Cajuncowboy
01-19-2006, 06:45 PM
I agree. You can't sit back with holes to fill like OC and then let your most hated rival go out and sign the perfect match for your vacancy. Jerry sat on his hands on this one. I hope he doesn't do it much longer.
mr.jameswoods
01-19-2006, 06:45 PM
Wow, Bill Parcells is really all powerfull when he can prevent another NFL team from signing coaches.
Parcells' attorney strikes again!
InmanRoshi
01-19-2006, 06:47 PM
Parcells' attorney strikes again!
I prefer to think of myself as working on the legal team for logic and basic common sense. I'm not alone, there are some others out there.
I'm working quid pro quo, because I believe in the cause.
AbeBeta
01-19-2006, 06:59 PM
Gibbs got a guy who fits in his scheme. BP didn't go after a guy who would bring a totally different scheme.
I think it is a bad move to toss your scheme completely instead of trying to fix the one or two things that make your current scheme -- you know, the one that the players now completely understand -- ineffective.
InmanRoshi
01-19-2006, 06:59 PM
I agree. You can't sit back with holes to fill like OC and then let your most hated rival go out and sign the perfect match for your vacancy. Jerry sat on his hands on this one. I hope he doesn't do it much longer.
Saunders and Gibbs are both descendants of Coryell. They were both hand picked apprentices and offensive coordinators under Coryell. Bringing in Saunders is going to be a seemless transition for the offense that is already in place.
For Parcells to bring in Saunders we would have had to totally scrap the offense system in place, and overhaul the personnel that we've drafted, signed and developed for the last 3 years and start from scratch.
We're you so badly wanting Saunders that you were prepared to not contend in 2006 (and possibly 2007) as we go through a transition year on a new offense and finding new offensive personnel for it.
mr.jameswoods
01-19-2006, 06:59 PM
I prefer to think of myself as working on the legal team for logic and basic common sense.
Yeah, you and every member of this forum seems to be working for that legal team.
BigDFan5
01-19-2006, 07:02 PM
Bad move Parcells letting the Skins sign Al Saunders'
Yeah Parcells you evil when the Skins called to ask if it was ok to hire him, you should have said no!
InmanRoshi
01-19-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah, you and every member of this forum seems to be working for that legal team.
I don't know .. it seems like I'm in the minority on most topics.
Maybe you're not the cool, free thinking, outsider you like to think yourself to be. Fonzi and Nietzsche all rolled into one.
BigDFan5
01-19-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah, you and every member of this forum seems to be working for that legal team.
Logic and common sense? Yeah its rough being logical lol
neosapien23
01-19-2006, 07:04 PM
I don't know why everyone hated Payton. It's hard to be an assisstant for BP. He is constantly in your grill and overriding playcalls. Played exhibited the patience of Gandhi.
mr.jameswoods
01-19-2006, 07:09 PM
I don't know .. it seems like I'm in the minority on most topics.
Maybe you're not the cool, free thinking, outsider you like to think yourself to be. Fonzi and Nietzsche all rolled into one.
I don't consider myself to be a free thinking outsider. I'm like you and every other fan on this website. I have an opinion and I happen to think it makes sense. The outsiders are the ones who can say; "I was wrong" or "You made a great point and I overlooked that." Those are the rebels! Yeah, you don't see many of them
Cajuncowboy
01-19-2006, 09:06 PM
Saunders and Gibbs are both descendants of Coryell. They were both hand picked apprentices and offensive coordinators under Coryell. Bringing in Saunders is going to be a seemless transition for the offense that is already in place.
For Parcells to bring in Saunders we would have had to totally scrap the offense system in place, and overhaul the personnel that we've drafted, signed and developed for the last 3 years and start from scratch.
We're you so badly wanting Saunders that you were prepared to not contend in 2006 (and possibly 2007) as we go through a transition year on a new offense and finding new offensive personnel for it.
Still, I don't think that you sit around and let your competition beat you to the punch. If Saunders is as good as advertised, and it seems that he is, then you make the effort to keep your rivals from getting him while at the same time filling one of your needs.
As for the seamless transition thingy, I would love to scrap that thing we called an offense for something a bit more imaginative.
neosapien23
01-19-2006, 09:25 PM
BP would not let Saunders call the offense he wants. I think that the Jets offensive coordinator would be good if he forces his way out. I'm sure he doesn't like Mangini getting the job when he has more expereince.
ChldsPlay
01-19-2006, 10:22 PM
For Parcells to bring in Saunders we would have had to totally scrap the offense system in place,
What's wrong with that?
and overhaul the personnel that we've drafted, signed and developed for the last 3 years and start from scratch.
No reason to scrap ther personnel we have to run this offense.
Shaun
01-19-2006, 10:39 PM
That Chiefs team has a lot of offensive talent. Playcalling can't be too hard when the blocking is always excellent.
I think Saunders is overrated.
dragon_mikal
01-19-2006, 10:43 PM
I'll wait and see before praising this move. At the moment, it seems like a good one, but Al had a lot of talent to work with on that offense, including one of the best offensive lines in the league.
Lets see what he does with a less talented offense in Washington before we start worrying.
Asklesko
01-20-2006, 12:43 AM
oh my, this is very bad news. a kc style offense in our own division, with washington's defense? we're screwed.
Bob Sacamano
01-20-2006, 02:30 AM
Gibbs got a guy who fits in his scheme. BP didn't go after a guy who would bring a totally different scheme.
I think it is a bad move to toss your scheme completely instead of trying to fix the one or two things that make your current scheme -- you know, the one that the players now completely understand -- ineffective.
:hammer:
exactly, bringing in a new OC means a new offensive system, and this current O has alot going against it already, in terms of lacking talent, we don't need anymore things for the O to deal with, they have enough on their plate already
I think BIll is waiting for someone he's worked with before, and who runs basically the same offense, or is going to hire from within
btw, assistant coaches are overrated, execution and talent is more important
SacredStar
01-20-2006, 02:52 AM
Still, I don't think that you sit around and let your competition beat you to the punch. If Saunders is as good as advertised, and it seems that he is, then you make the effort to keep your rivals from getting him while at the same time filling one of your needs.
That's exactly what Snyder did........they went and got Saunders so Dallas wouldn't get him. I believe that Jerry and Danny are in a little race to the Super Bowl.
Examples:
Snyder signing Sanders to try and up one on Dallas.......didn't work.
Snyder signing Gibbs back to try and up one on Dallas bringing in Parcells.
And now, Snyder signing Saunders to ensure Dallas didn't get him.
I believe alot of what Danny Boy does is directly aimed at what Dallas does.
Remember Gibb's first words after he was hired? "The Redskins main goal was to beat Dallas."
Remember Danny Boy jumping up and down like a little girl after Washington came back and beat Dallas in the first meeting? He absolutely hates the Cowboys and will do anything at any cost to derail "America's Team".
Danny is obsessed making sure Dallas doesn't succeed.
leotisbrown
01-20-2006, 12:05 PM
Yeah Parcells you evil when the Skins called to ask if it was ok to hire him, you should have said no!
That just show how good of a guy Parcell is. He don't cares if we lose coach to Deadskin teams. He more interest for the longer terms with a lot of planning and brain smarts to make best decision for hiself and team.
Therefour Parcell know that Snyder just wasted his moneys on another loser likes he did with Marvin Lewis and Spurer who both left after taking his telemarket money from him and a laugh.
Expect same from Saunders next year. In meantimes Parcel gets last laugh for lettings him go.
Brillant move Bill!!!
Rockytop6
01-20-2006, 04:03 PM
I don't consider myself to be a free thinking outsider. I'm like you and every other fan on this website. I have an opinion and I happen to think it makes sense. The outsiders are the ones who can say; "I was wrong" or "You made a great point and I overlooked that." Those are the rebels! Yeah, you don't see many of them
Hey, I must be an outside then because I would certainly admit it if I were ever wrong. lol
mr.jameswoods
01-20-2006, 04:11 PM
Hey, I must be an outside then because I would certainly admit it if I were ever wrong. lol
You mean you don't belong to the common sense/logical thinking/everyone else is wrong party? Yes, you truly are an outsider. Please, leave this forum at once. :)
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