Is there an end to this Redskins madness???

[Gryphon]

The Redskins are one team who could make a run at Antwaan Randle El.
They might also go after Reggie Wayne, but probably don't have the cap space. Randle El fits the small, speedy profile that Washington likes. He's better than David Patten, but still not a true No. 2 receiver in our opinion.

Jan. 20 - 2:49 pm et
Source: Washington Post

[CowboyFan74]

I doubt pitt lets him go

[AbeBeta]

Regardless of the Skins' cap, they can sign all the big ticket guys they want. I'd love to see them do it -- why? because they'd have to work the deals in a very "old school" cap manner -- they are really on the edge here -- they can be conservative, clear some dead money next year, and have cap health for a long time to come -- OR they can spend like crazy and get killed a year or two down the line (and don't give me that "uncapped" year crap as a way out -- not gonna happen - ever).

I want to see them spend, have it not do any good, and then see them have to cut half of their players to fix their cap, right when Gibbs quits.

[leotisbrown]

Ha harr!!

FourSkins whisling in the dark! Nothing more.

They way over cap space and are bustting at seems and stuff. They has to get rid some of they overpaid bums and losers that Ceratto done spent Snyders dirty moneys on.

How the hell they afford to pay for even more peoples!!?? This make nothing sense??

Tagaboo is a fourskin fan with season tickets and he's been known to take money from Snyder for bribes says rumour here.

Congress should investigates this close if they start buying up free qagents with big oogles of cash like they done befoure.

I hates Snyder and all them motherlovin girlie boys at Extremeskins that worship aftyer Art and the rest of Snyders goon squads.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Ha harr!!

FourSkins whisling in the dark! Nothing more.

They way over cap space and are bustting at seems and stuff. They has to get rid some of they overpaid bums and losers that Ceratto done spent Snyders dirty moneys on.

How the hell they afford to pay for even more peoples!!?? This make nothing sense??

Tagaboo is a fourskin fan with season tickets and he's been known to take money from Snyder for bribes says rumour here.

Congress should investigates this close if they start buying up free qagents with big oogles of cash like they done befoure.

I hates Snyder and all them motherlovin girlie boys at Extremeskins that worship aftyer Art and the rest of Snyders goon squads.

Are you trying to sound like a pirate?

[Jimmie]

every year they spend huge money and we keep saying.. "cant wait till next year, there gonna be screwed cap wise".

so, how do they keep pulling it off? where do they keep getting cap space from?:bang2:

[KINGBRICE_28]

Ha harr!!

This make nothing sense??



you're not lyin'......;)

_________

Skins need a WR.....who?.....I don't care....we can't risk our #2 going down and being screwed again early on......

[SilverStarCowboy]

Skins thinking ahead of the Cowboys and the NFL


Theory is back loaded contracts = Cap Relief

As we all know, it seems that the Skins have a way of eluding the cap and it has for years. Even in o6" when the Skins should be 20 million over it looks like they want to sign big name players.

Have the Deadskins found a way to circumvent the cap? Obviously they have done somethings right, by at the least manipulating it. If you stop and think about it, the league raises Salary Cap space Annually every year. If a team decides to "backload" enough money on player contracts, then you will never enter cap Hell because the cap continueally increases. Unlike the salary cap HELL Dallas and other teams have faced in the past, Washington over pays every year and never has faced the music.

Which leads one to conclude that Washington has cheated the cap, or otherwise have been ahead of the curve.


I hate to say it .....

But maybe Dallas, Jerry and Bill Parcels need to take a serious look at the way Dan Snyder has signed players year after year to big time contracts without ending in salary cap HELL.

If we could get away with some of the crap they have, then we could sign several big name free agents this offseason like OT Backus, C Bently, WR Wayne and more.

Also remember at one time or another in the next few years the cap is going to increase dramatically under a new collective bargaining agreement at which time the salarys become asorbable into a new greater cap.


I say sign playmakers NOW, circumvent and manipulate the cap while you can get away with it. It has strapped certain teams down including the Dallas Cowboys in the past but we don't have to be one of those teams anymore, Jerry has the money to do it.

Lets git er' done!




Redskins Have Options Despite Arrington's Salary




By Jason La Canfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, January 19, 2006; Page E01
The Washington Redskins do not have to renegotiate the contract of LaVar Arrington to meet the NFL salary cap and could get rid of the linebacker while still being able to re-sign their own free agents and add to the roster, according to two experts who have reviewed the team's 2006 payroll.
The Redskins face a $12 million salary cap hit if Arrington is traded or released. He is due a $6.5 million roster bonus by July 15, but that can be converted into a signing bonus prorated over four years to save the team approximately $5 million in cap space in 2006, according to the experts.

"Does [owner] Dan Snyder really want to give [LaVar Arrington, above] a check for $6.5 million?" asked one expert. "That's what this is all about." (By Jonathan Newton -- The Washington Post)




But that space is not critical to the Redskins reaching Coach Joe Gibbs's stated goal of keeping the nucleus of the roster together and perhaps adding a key player or two, according to the experts who asked not to be identified because commenting on the Redskins' cap situation could harm their future relationship with the team.
"This isn't a salary cap issue for them," said one of the experts. "They can still get under the cap with that $12 million hit, and not have to really cut anybody they wouldn't want to lose, anyway. This is not a cap issue at all; this is an issue of cash. Does [owner] Dan Snyder really want to give this player a check for $6.5 million? That's what this is all about."
Gibbs was noncommittal about Arrington's future on Monday, but Arrington has been speaking with owner Daniel Snyder recently, team sources said. He is amenable to altering his contract to remain in Washington despite two seasons in which he clashed with the team over treatment of his injuries, his contract and his playing time.
"Right now, I'm a Redskin until I'm told otherwise," he said this week.
The Redskins, like many teams, are over the projected 2006 salary cap of $95 million. Washington has about $113 million committed in players' salaries and bonuses, league sources said, and must be in compliance with the payroll ceiling by March 1.
The two sources said Washington could meet its obligation with or without restructuring Arrington's contract by trading or releasing other players, or reworking other contracts.
By cutting safety Matt Bowen and offensive lineman Cory Raymer, who played sparingly last season; cornerback Walt Harris, who lost his starting job to rookie Carlos Rogers; and place kicker John Hall, who was injured for large parts of the past two seasons, sources said the Redskins could save $6.5 million in 2006 cap space. Defensive tackle Brandon Noble, coming off career-threatening injuries, could retire or, if not, it is unlikely the team would keep him at his $1.7 million base salary. Trading backup quarterback Patrick Ramsey, as expected, would trim another $1.7 million.
Getting quarterback Mark Brunell and tackle Jon Jansen to agree to restructure their $4 million base salaries by converting the money to bonuses that can be spread out over several years against the cap would trim another $5 million. Brunell adjusted his salary last year and Jansen has said he would be open to exploring the idea. Cornerback Shawn Springs, running back Clinton Portis, linebacker Marcus Washington and defensive tackle Cornelius Griffin are among the players who, like Arrington, have large bonuses due in 2006. By restructuring the bonuses, and prorating them, Washington could save about $8 million more under the cap.
All of those moves in total would get the team under $90 million, which would allow them to re-sign key free agent safety Ryan Clark, tight end Robert Royal, running back Rock Cartwright and long snapper Ethan Albright, and leave some room for signing other players. While it might not be enough to land a top-tier free agent such as Indianapolis wide receiver Reggie Wayne, the Redskins would still have other options to create more salary cap space, and, should they keep Arrington at a $7 million cap figure, the opportunity to chase a big-name free agent would increase.
Arrington has a base salary of $545,000. Should the Redskins elect to keep Arrington, there are provisions in his contract that would allow them to alter the deal and prorate the $6.5 million bonus over four years. This would lower his 2006 salary cap amount to $7 million.
Either trading or cutting Arrington would result in him counting $12 million on the team's 2006 cap under the current collective bargaining agreement, although if an extension to the CBA is reached before Arrington's bonus comes due, the Redskins could cut him after June 1 and take a $5 million salary cap hit in 2006 and a $7 million hit in 2007.
No trades become official until March 3, which is also the start of free agency, and two general managers said they believed the Redskins would have difficulty getting more than a mid-round pick for Arrington.
"There's still a market for him," said one AFC general manager who spoke on the condition of anonymity. "But there's also a feeling that they'll eventually end up releasing him, so it's hard to get value for the player."





BTW, next year as of right now there is no collective bargaining agreement or salary cap, so Dallas may have been so far behind the curve we already struck out and now it could be too late to do anything about it.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

^ i am not reading that if my life depended on it. Cap issues can always be worked out in some way. Remember these guys who normally do this kind of stuff are really really smart. They know how to figure out and persuey (sp?) the players to renegotiate.

[SDogo]

I have really had it with these Skins threads on the first page of a Cowboys board. I'll stop now because the language I would like to use is not allowed.

[Fan21]

Dan Snyder is a very smart man...he is after all richer than everyone on this board combined. He didn't get that way by being an idiot.

He hires smart people. The Skins have been doing a lot of backloading contracts. I don't see how that is 'cheating the system'; everyone in the league knows that the cap rises.

And it is also not cheating to have his players renegotiate their contracts to help the team sign strong players.

I think it is time that other teams stop complaining about how the Skins work around the salary cap and take some notes. I'm getting sick of hearing that the Skins will be in cap hell every offseason. Get off it! Do you honestly believe that Snyder and Gibbs are going to ruin the Redskins?!

Give credit where credit is due! Finally, I am actually hearing some commendation of Dan Snyder, currently the best owner in the NFL! You know it's true!

[clayman]

Dan Snyder is a very smart man...he is after all richer than everyone on this board combined. He didn't get that way by being an idiot.

He hires smart people. The Skins have been doing a lot of backloading contracts. I don't see how that is 'cheating the system'; everyone in the league knows that the cap rises.

And it is also not cheating to have his players renegotiate their contracts to help the team sign strong players.

I think it is time that other teams stop complaining about how the Skins work around the salary cap and take some notes. I'm getting sick of hearing that the Skins will be in cap hell every offseason. Get off it! Do you honestly believe that Snyder and Gibbs are going to ruin the Redskins?!

Give credit where credit is due! Finally, I am actually hearing some commendation of Dan Snyder, currently the best owner in the NFL! You know it's true!


Best realism post yet....lets not spend time bashing, mocking, or wishing impending doom on rivals and take care of ourselves....we've as fans spent too much energy worrying about the other man and need to focus on us and what we can do to reach the promise land.

[Hostile]

Dan Snyder is a very smart man...he is after all richer than everyone on this board combined. He didn't get that way by being an idiot.

He hires smart people. The Skins have been doing a lot of backloading contracts. I don't see how that is 'cheating the system'; everyone in the league knows that the cap rises.

And it is also not cheating to have his players renegotiate their contracts to help the team sign strong players.

I think it is time that other teams stop complaining about how the Skins work around the salary cap and take some notes. I'm getting sick of hearing that the Skins will be in cap hell every offseason. Get off it! Do you honestly believe that Snyder and Gibbs are going to ruin the Redskins?!

Give credit where credit is due! Finally, I am actually hearing some commendation of Dan Snyder, currently the best owner in the NFL! You know it's true!That is so full of crap that manure salesmen are envious.

To be the best you need more than deep pockets. He's won nothing yet.

I'd listen to an argument that the Rooney's are the best because they are so loyal and have been in the game forever.

Snyder can't stand in Dan Rooney's shadow yet. He certainly hasn't cast his own.

[Fan21]

Dan Snyder hasn't won anything yet...yet...yet...yet...but he still has more playoff wins in the last 8 seasons than does ol' plastic face.

[BigDFan5]

Dan Snyder hasn't won anything yet...yet...yet...yet...but he still has more playoff wins in the last 8 seasons than does ol' plastic face.


Oh here we go with selective math again, Why didn't you use 9 years? or 10 years? or 15 years?


Cowboys did more in the 90s with "plastic face" than your entire franchise has done in its history.

Snyder has spent 100s of millions on players that busted, he now pays 3 coaches head coach pay and in the end what will it get him? Same as always a seat on the couch when the big dance rolls around

[Hostile]

Dan Snyder hasn't won anything yet...yet...yet...yet...but he still has more playoff wins in the last 8 seasons than does ol' plastic face.In Plastic Face's first 8 seasons how'd he do?

Don't bring that weak bush league crap in here boy. Throw some heat or get off the freaking mound.

[The30YardSlant]

In Plastic Face's first 8 seasons how'd he do?

Don't bring that weak bush league crap in here boy. Throw some heat or get off the freaking mound.

Ouch...

http://graphics.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2004/04/21/1082576098_3220.jpg

[The30YardSlant]

Dan Snyder is a very smart man...he is after all richer than everyone on this board combined. He didn't get that way by being an idiot.

He hires smart people. The Skins have been doing a lot of backloading contracts. I don't see how that is 'cheating the system'; everyone in the league knows that the cap rises.

And it is also not cheating to have his players renegotiate their contracts to help the team sign strong players.

I think it is time that other teams stop complaining about how the Skins work around the salary cap and take some notes. I'm getting sick of hearing that the Skins will be in cap hell every offseason. Get off it! Do you honestly believe that Snyder and Gibbs are going to ruin the Redskins?!

Give credit where credit is due! Finally, I am actually hearing some commendation of Dan Snyder, currently the best owner in the NFL! You know it's true!

I believe that in 3 years, when you have the worst starting 22 in pro football because Snyder's sins have finally come back to haunt him, I will be laughing my @** off at the "best owner in the NFL" and his pathetic, liberal touting, cross-dressing, tranny wannabe fanbase.

[ghst187]

Give credit where credit is due! Finally, I am actually hearing some commendation of Dan Snyder, currently the best owner in the NFL! You know it's true!

the devil often masquerades as an angel of light...

[Bob Sacamano]

The Redskins are one team who could make a run at Antwaan Randle El.
They might also go after Reggie Wayne, but probably don't have the cap space. Randle El fits the small, speedy profile that Washington likes. He's better than David Patten, but still not a true No. 2 receiver in our opinion.

Jan. 20 - 2:49 pm et
Source: Washington Post

pure speculation

[Bob Sacamano]

every year they spend huge money and we keep saying.. "cant wait till next year, there gonna be screwed cap wise".

so, how do they keep pulling it off? where do they keep getting cap space from?:bang2:

they haven't had much money under the cap for a couple years now, going on 3

[Bob Sacamano]

I think it is time that other teams stop complaining about how the Skins work around the salary cap and take some notes.

trust me, no NFL team gives a crap about what you guys are doing to circumvent the cap, and why take notes when teams can make wise decisions regarding the cap?

[SultanOfSix]

Snyder can't stand in Dan Rooney's shadow yet. He certainly hasn't cast his own.

That's because he's too short, so the sun ignores him.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I believe that in 3 years, when you have the worst starting 22 in pro football because Snyder's sins have finally come back to haunt him, I will be laughing my @** off at the "best owner in the NFL" and his pathetic, liberal touting, cross-dressing, tranny wannabe fanbase.


Heard that 3 years ago ;)

Regardless, if I am a Cowboys fan, I love Dan Snyder

Because every offseason, somehow his dangerous spending is going to ruin the Redskins

He has only 2 playoff wins in his tenure

And if not for a coup of bringing back Gibbs, may have hired Ray Rhodes and doomed the Redskins to failure for a decade

I just don't ever understand why opposing fans hate Snyder, he always puts the team in a mess, has messed with chemistry, and hires and fires coaches like they are going out of style

Really it makes no sense. If I am an opposing fan I hope Snyder owns the Redskins forever, because every year, his maniacal spending will doom the Redskins in another 3 years!

And seriously, maybe a small portion of our fanbase is liberal. Remember this used to be the "team of south" so you still have some good old boys around that are anything BUT liberal

[superpunk]

In Plastic Face's first 8 seasons how'd he do?

Don't bring that weak bush league crap in here boy. Throw some heat or get off the freaking mound.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/8883/ownedkid7aq.jpg:lmao2:

[juice28]

In Plastic Face's first 8 seasons how'd he do?

Don't bring that weak bush league crap in here boy. Throw some heat or get off the freaking mound.

:bow: :bow: :bow: :skins: :dissskin:

[kingwhicker]

Cap hell or not, what has all the big spending gotten them since he took over in 1999- yep, that's right- nothing- and I would say it wouldn't be too big of a risk in betting that that's all they'll ever get out of it.

[kingwhicker]

I will be laughing my @** off at the "best owner in the NFL" and his pathetic, liberal touting, cross-dressing, tranny wannabe fanbase.

Is Hillary a Skins fan?

[kingwhicker]

Dan Snyder hasn't won anything yet...yet...yet...yet...but he still has more playoff wins in the last 8 seasons than does ol' plastic face.

Time to use the nuclear option::lombardi:

[parchy]

Have the Deadskins found a way to circumvent the cap? Obviously they have done somethings right, by at the least manipulating it. If you stop and think about it, the league raises Salary Cap space Annually every year. If a team decides to "backload" enough money on player contracts, then you will never enter cap Hell because the cap continueally increases. Unlike the salary cap HELL Dallas and other teams have faced in the past, Washington over pays every year and never has faced the music.

You are completely forgetting the Tennessee Titans

[skinsngibbs4life]

you all can critize Dan snyder of the past all you want, because the fact of the matter is, he thought we were playing baseball.

But, you all have no right to critize snyder as of late. Because beleive it or not, snyder has been the better owner of the past 2 years. He finally relized that it isant always the personnel that wins you the games, but the coaching staff. Now, jerry jones might have done this with parcells, but there is only so much one man can do. snyder has gone out here now, and put together one of the(if not the) best coaching staffs in football.

You all are bringing up the wrongs of the past, because you cant cope with the fact the maybe our owner is figuring out how to own a football team. And maybe to fact that all your seeing on the front page of your boards is redskins stuff is because people around here are actually worried about what we are doing here in D.C.

[Hostile]

Hey Fan21, you sure got quiet. I thought I'd give you some facts to chew on so that you can get over your delusions. I wouldn't want you going through life stupid forever.

It shouldn't surprise me that you've got Snyder owning the team 8 years when it has only been 7. I mean, why should I suspect you'd know your team's History?

Let's do some math.

Dallas Cowboys under Jerry Jones, first 7 years.

Year 1...1989...1-15...missed the playoffs.
Year 2...1990...7-9...missed the playoffs.
Year 3...1991...11-5...1-1 in the playoffs.
Year 4...1992...13-3...2-0 in the playoffs...Super Bowl Champion.
Year 5...1993...12-4...2-0 in the playoffs...Super Bowl Champion.
Year 6...1994...12-4...1-1 in the playoffs.
Year 7...1995...12-4...2-0 in the playoffs...Super Bowl Champion.

Wins in the regular season...68.

Wins in the playoffs...8 over 5 straight seasons.

Super Bowl Championships...3




Washington Redskins under Dan Snyder, first 7 years.

Year 1...1999...10-6...1-1 in the playoffs.
Year 2...2000...8-8...missed the playoffs.
Year 3...2001...8-8...missed the playoffs.
Year 4...2002...7-9...missed the playoffs.
Year 5...2003...5-11...missed the playoffs.
Year 6...2004...6-10...missed the playoffs.
Year 7...2005...10-6...1-1 in the playoffs.

Wins in the regular season...54.

Wins in the playoffs...2.
Super Bowl Championships...:lmao2:

[Hostile]

you all can critize Dan snyder of the past all you want, because the fact of the matter is, he thought we were playing baseball.

But, you all have no right to critize snyder as of late. Because beleive it or not, snyder has been the better owner of the past 2 years. He finally relized that it isant always the personnel that wins you the games, but the coaching staff. Now, jerry jones might have done this with parcells, but there is only so much one man can do. snyder has gone out here now, and put together one of the(if not the) best coaching staffs in football.

You all are bringing up the wrongs of the past, because you cant cope with the fact the maybe our owner is figuring out how to own a football team. And maybe to fact that all your seeing on the front page of your boards is redskins stuff is because people around here are actually worried about what we are doing here in D.C.Yet another deleusional Skins fans who thinks we're obsessed with the Skins but the Skins aren't obsessed with us.

[skinsngibbs4life]

Yet another deleusional Skins fans who thinks we're obsessed witht eh Skins but the Skins aren't obsessed with us.

well lets see, over at extremeskins, there hasnt been a cowboys thread on the frontpage probably since the last time we beat you... however over here, there are least a couple a day...

dont care eh?

[SkinsandTerps]

I knew this thread would turn out bad.

[Hostile]

well lets see, over at extremeskins, there hasnt been a cowboys thread on the frontpage probably since the last time we beat you... however over here, there are least a couple a day...

dont care eh?The last time one of you bet me on this there were 2 threads here, one started by a Skins fan. One ES there were 5.

Oh and it was way after the last time you beat us.

Open your mouth again, the other foot is feeling neglected.

[SkinsandTerps]

I definitely feel the Redskins will go after a WR this offseason but be it Wayne, Randle-El or a rookie draft pick, doesnt matter much to me. As long as they get another option.

[Hostile]

well lets see, over at extremeskins, there hasnt been a cowboys thread on the frontpage probably since the last time we beat you... however over here, there are least a couple a day...

dont care eh?

Page 1 at ES...

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141690

None since the last time you beat us huh?

Don't be so naive.

[skinsngibbs4life]

ok, go over to extremeskins.com, go to the search function, and type in "cowboys".

if you did this, you would find out that over the past 5 days, there has only been 2 threads started that had to do with dallas.

over the last couple of hours, i could find 2 on here.


hows that foot tasting?

[skinsngibbs4life]

Page 1 at ES...

http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141690

None since the last time you beat us huh?

Don't be so naive.

please... that has nothing to do with what we are talking about here...but ok, even if you want that one, ill give it to you, thats 3 over the past 5 days... still A LOT less than over here..

[SkinsandTerps]

skinsngibbs4life and Hostile,

Really what is the point of this pissing match ?

Reality is (no pun intended), that obviously as the biggest rival there is interest in that rival.

[Hostile]

ok, go over to extremeskins.com, go to the search function, and type in "cowboys".

if you did this, you would find out that over the past 5 days, there has only been 2 threads started that had to do with dallas.

over the last couple of hours, i could find 2 on here.


hows that foot tasting?I found one without a search.

Tell me about your foot.

One of the threads here was started by a Redskins fan you called ignorant. Smartest thing you've said today.

[Hostile]

skinsngibbs4life and Hostile,

Really what is the point of this pissing match ?

Reality is (no pun intended), that obviously as the biggest rival there is interest in that rival.Exactly.

Now explain it to Norman Einstein, aka SkinsnGibbs4life.

[Yakuza Rich]

Do I think this will happen? No. From the sounds of reading AdamJT's posts, the Skins will not be big FA movers this offseason given their cap restraints. And if the CBA doesn't get extended before March 1st, they appear to be in cap hell.

OTOH, I really don't care. I still believe that when Dallas bring's its A game or even its A- or B+ game, it can beat any team out there. So, I'm more concerned about addressing the O-Line, FS, Kicker, and LOLB before I start to worry about what the Skins will be doing.

Rich.............

[Dallas]

Yet another deleusional Skins fans who thinks we're obsessed with the Skins but the Skins aren't obsessed with us.

It looks like they are obsessed w/ us. I mean ...they are hear. We are not over there beating the Hate Dan Snyder Drum.

When you have to come to another teams message board to justify your team and it ownership.

That right there brother - say its ALL.


Good day.

[Hostile]

It looks like they are obsessed w/ us. I mean ...they are hear. We are not over there beating the Hate Dan Snyder Drum.

When you have to come to another teams message board to justify your team and it ownership.

That right there brother - say its ALL.


Good day.:grin:

Great point.

[riggo]

Exactly.

Now explain it to Norman Einstein, aka SkinsnGibbs4life.

who is norman einstein?

[Hostile]

who is norman einstein?My gosh it's an epidemic of Redskins fans who don't know their own history.

http://www.wisdomquotes.com/000530.html

Read the quote, see the author of it, answers your question.

I hope.

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Who the hell cares how much threads are made about your DIVISION RIVALS! You're bound to talk about them, you play them every year twice. If you dont feel like talking about the things you like...why not talk about the things you hate.

[BigDFan5]

well lets see, over at extremeskins, there hasnt been a cowboys thread on the frontpage probably since the last time we beat you... however over here, there are least a couple a day...

dont care eh?


There was 4 threads about us there just 2 days ago on the front page

[vicjagger]

Well, I sure wish we had info like this about the Cowboys.

Click the "tabs" at the bottom of the page, as in Excel.


http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

[SkinsandTerps]

Well, I sure wish we had info like this about the Cowboys.

Click the "tabs" at the bottom of the page, as in Excel.


http://www.thewarpath.net/WarpathRedskinsCap.htm

You guys arent supposed to know about that. :D

[Broohaha]

He has only 2 playoff wins in his tenure



yeah, well he's been owner since 1999 (7 years). how many playoff wins have the cowboys had in the same time period? how many have they had since 1997?

:lmao:

[The30YardSlant]

yeah, well he's been owner since 1999 (7 years). how many playoff wins have the cowboys had in the same time period? how many have they had since 1997?

:lmao:

How many has Jerruh had? I'm glad you asked:

He has won 12 playoff games, 3 SBs, and did it all without "buying" his teams

[#1skins fan]

The reason Snyder overpays is because the Skins are the most profitable team in the league. And unlike most owners (though JJ isn't one of them) he continues to throw all that profit back into his football team, not his pockets.

[The30YardSlant]

The reason Snyder overpays is because the Skins are the most profitable team in the league. And unlike most owners (though JJ isn't one of them) he continues to throw all that profit back into his football team, not his pockets.

Actually, Snyder personally makes a profit of nearly 10 million a year, but yeah, he doesnt pocket anything :lmao2:

[big dog cowboy]

The reason Snyder overpays is because the Skins are the most profitable team in the league. And unlike most owners (though JJ isn't one of them) he continues to throw all that profit back into his football team, not his pockets.
Ever heard of a salary cap?

[riggo]

My gosh it's an epidemic of Redskins fans who don't know their own history.

http://www.wisdomquotes.com/000530.html

Read the quote, see the author of it, answers your question.

I hope.

lol. theismann.... :laugh2:

[demdcowboys#1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Broohaha
"yeah, well he's been owner since 1999 (7 years). how many playoff wins have the cowboys had in the same time period? how many have they had since 1997?"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Heavy Hitta31
How many has Jerruh had? I'm glad you asked:

"He has won 12 playoff games, 3 SBs, and did it all without "buying" his teams"


Broohaha = PWNED!!!!!

[Taylor_Can_Hit21]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Broohaha
"yeah, well he's been owner since 1999 (7 years). how many playoff wins have the cowboys had in the same time period? how many have they had since 1997?"

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Originally Posted by Heavy Hitta31
How many has Jerruh had? I'm glad you asked:

"He has won 12 playoff games, 3 SBs, and did it all without "buying" his teams"


Broohaha = PWNED!!!!!

What do you think an owner does? Buys players and coaches that make you win. Durrrr!

[RiggoForever]

every year they spend huge money and we keep saying.. "cant wait till next year, there gonna be screwed cap wise".

so, how do they keep pulling it off? where do they keep getting cap space from?:bang2:

Having Joe Gibbs as our leader, and hence players willing to restructure contracts.

[davidyee]

...the Skins can or cannot do is going to be solved by either one of three things. Settlement of the CBA. We gone through that.

Continuing revenue stream. The basis for the cap rising from year to year is the TV revenues. We've had one institution go down due to poor ratings, MNF, and if there are naymore repercussions to other market segments then watch out because the cap can just as easily regress.

The third is that the NFl goes on forever and a day continually increasing it's revenues and never losing it's market share.

That is a possibility I don't believe in. There has been unprecendented labour peace in the NFL since the strike shortened season that saw the Redskins take the SuperBowl.

Many entertainment economists have stated that the NFL has enjoyed greener pastures not because the game has necessarily gotten better, but the other leagues have gotten worse.

Continued problems in MLB, the NBA and NHL has proven in some fashion to be a boon for the NFL who has enjoyed relative calm in labour relations. But like all economics driven entities there is an up and there is a down. At some point there has to be a "market correction" for the present salary cap.

The symptoms are already there with a few broadcasters grousing about the decrease in viewers for some of their offerings. Also, I believe the and revenues for the SuperBowl are not rising as fast as they were in the 90's.

I wouldn't be so confident in expecting a perpetually rising salary cap.

[JohnnY]

Dan Snyder is a very smart man...he is after all richer than everyone on this board combined. He didn't get that way by being an idiot.

He hires smart people. The Skins have been doing a lot of backloading contracts. I don't see how that is 'cheating the system'; everyone in the league knows that the cap rises.

And it is also not cheating to have his players renegotiate their contracts to help the team sign strong players.

I think it is time that other teams stop complaining about how the Skins work around the salary cap and take some notes. I'm getting sick of hearing that the Skins will be in cap hell every offseason. Get off it! Do you honestly believe that Snyder and Gibbs are going to ruin the Redskins?!

Give credit where credit is due! Finally, I am actually hearing some commendation of Dan Snyder, currently the best owner in the NFL! You know it's true!

Good post my man.

[JohnnY]

Let's do some math.



What is 14-13 & 35-7?