Will Henson have proven anything by Draft Day?

[fortdick]

I was just thinking that if Jay Cutler falls to #18 we should know a great deal about Parcell's plans based on what he does. If he passes on Cutler then we know that he is going to wait another year for a QB and go with the three we have now. If he takes Cutler, or another QB on the first day, we know that someone has to go, and that would prolly be Henson But what if Henson shows greatness in NFLE?

I don't believe he will have time to prove anything by draft day, and therefor, won't impact the decision(s). So all Henson can really do is play to be traded. Is there time for him to show anything before Bill and Jerruh have to make a decision come draft day?

[NovaCowboy]

I think the better question is, with Parcells here does it really matter what he proves at any point?

[wileedog]

I was just thinking that if Jay Cutler falls to #18 we should know a great deal about Parcell's plans based on what he does. If he passes on Cutler then we know that he is going to wait another year for a QB and go with the three we have now. If he takes Cutler, or another QB on the first day, we know that someone has to go, and that would prolly be Henson But what if Henson shows greatness in NFLE?

I don't believe he will have time to prove anything by draft day, and therefor, won't impact the decision(s). So all Henson can really do is play to be traded. Is there time for him to show anything before Bill and Jerruh have to make a decision come draft day?

We won't draft Cutler at 18.

Unless Bledsoe and Romo go golfing together before the draft and have a tragic sandtrap accident.

[speedkilz88]

The Cowboys aren't drafting a qb. Parcells and Jerry are in win now mode and are going with Bledsoe, Romo, and Henson. They will probably bring in either a FA rookie or a 1st year FA to compete in minicamps but that is it.

[fortdick]

The Cowboys aren't drafting a qb. Parcells and Jerry are in win now mode and are going with Bledsoe, Romo, and Henson. They will probably bring in either a FA rookie or a 1st year FA to compete in minicamps but that is it.

And how do we know this?

[Zman5]

I think the better question is, with Parcells here does it really matter what he proves at any point?
:hammer:

[speedkilz88]

And how do we know this?Parcells brought in Bledsoe(he also seems to like Romo with at least some intrigue with Henson whom we already know Jerry loves), he only has one to two years left to coach and Jerry said that they are going to do everything they can to shoot for the super bowl this next season. Drafting a qb in the first round isn't shooting for the super bowl next season.

[Cowboy Junkie]

Dose anyone know when the season starts over there...
I haven't watched one of those games in years ,but I would like to catch Henson..

[iceberg]

And how do we know this?

paying attention to what parcells does.

[Maikeru-sama]

I doubt we draft a quarterback. I really have not seen any indication that we would.

I could see us bringing in a Free Agent if Parcells is looking at Henson going to Europe as a Make or Break time.

No way we draft a quarterback in this draft because there are way too many other positions that are holding us hostage at the moment.

I personally dont think we draft a QB while Parcells is in town....

- Mike G.

[wxcpo]

Parcells has already proven through his own actions that he's too old to groom a young QB, so that is enough proof for me that we won't be taking Cutler or any other QB in the 1st round. This is really not an option anyways because there's no way Cutler drops down to us at 18, to get him we would have to move up into the top 10.

[speedkilz88]

Dose anyone know when the season starts over there...
I haven't watched one of those games in years ,but I would like to catch Henson..Season starts March 18, its a few weeks earlier than the usual start for NFLe which means the players will back sooner, possibly for minicamps(which may be even more reason for BP to send Henson). Training camp in Florida starts February 10.

[Cowboy Junkie]

Season starts March 18, its a few weeks earlier than the usual start for NFLe which means the players will back sooner, possibly for minicamps(which may be even more reason for BP to send Henson). Training camp in Florida starts February 10.






Thanks

[jackrussell]

But what if Henson shows greatness in NFLE?

Define greatness in NFLe. Is there such a thing?

Is it anything like the winner of the NIT basketball tournament that gets to say "We're #65!!!"

My guess is if you're sending someone to NFLe to address some questions, you probably already know the answers.

[big dog cowboy]

I was just thinking that if Jay Cutler falls to #18 we should know a great deal about Parcell's plans based on what he does. If he passes on Cutler then we know that he is going to wait another year for a QB and go with the three we have now. If he takes Cutler, or another QB on the first day, we know that someone has to go, and that would prolly be Henson But what if Henson shows greatness in NFLE?

I don't believe he will have time to prove anything by draft day, and therefor, won't impact the decision(s). So all Henson can really do is play to be traded. Is there time for him to show anything before Bill and Jerruh have to make a decision come draft day?
Given the competition in Europe, even if he plays lights out he still might not have proven anything. If the Cowboys like Cutler and he is there then take him. Imagine a QB controversy between 2 good QB's for a change. :eek:

[fortdick]

paying attention to what parcells does.

Oh, well, I guess I don't pay enough attention to detail.:rolleyes:

[chinch]

what is the odds that Jay Cutler could outplay and start over Bledsoe in the next two years? Probably ZILCH so expect Tuna to draft defense (LB) and build a great defense. Then when Tuna leaves we can grab a young QB and let the defense and running game carry him ala Pitt, NYG as opposed to setting the QB up for failure ala DET, HOU, etc.

[fortdick]

what is the odds that Jay Cutler could outplay and start over Bledsoe in the next two years? Probably ZILCH so expect Tuna to draft defense (LB) and build a great defense. Then when Tuna leaves we can grab a young QB and let the defense and running game carry him ala Pitt, NYG as opposed to setting the QB up for failure ala DET, HOU, etc.

So, I guess we are in the same boat as the Skins! Sacrifice the future for the coaches glory? Don't want to be there! We won't have a starting QB in 2008, just like when Troy left.

[peplaw06]

Parcells has already proven through his own actions that he's too old to groom a young QB, so that is enough proof for me that we won't be taking Cutler or any other QB in the 1st round. This is really not an option anyways because there's no way Cutler drops down to us at 18, to get him we would have to move up into the top 10.

See, I don't understand this... What makes us think he's "too old" to groom a QB?? He's gotta draft someone right? Meaning he's going to be grooming somebody. Romo and Henson have both needed "grooming," and yeah they may not be starting or playing much, but I don't think they've warranted much playing time from what I've seen. Is it really that hard to believe that these guys just aren't that great? Romo was undrafted and Henson was better at baseball.

I think that if Parcells finds a QB that is a good value for the pick that he'll take him.... Whether that's Cutler if he drops to us, or someone else later in the draft.

[chinch]

So, I guess we are in the same boat as the Skins! Sacrifice the future for the coaches glory? Don't want to be there! We won't have a starting QB in 2008, just like when Troy left.
i can't comment on the skins really but i don't see it as "coaches glory". if anything it's the smarts and patience to realize breaking in a rookie QB (at a huge salary cap hit) is counterproductive both short term and long term with a marginal team around him.

[big dog cowboy]

So, I guess we are in the same boat as the Skins! Sacrifice the future for the coaches glory? Don't want to be there.
That hit to close to home for me. :mad:

[REDVOLUTION]

I think the better question is, with Parcells here does it really matter what he proves at any point?

Not only did you hit the nail on the head.
BP is not thinking about ANY other QB's on team or not EXCEPT for Bledsoe. The only thing I can see is that he may be bringing Henson or Romo along for future starting QB via the old sitting on the bench and watch and learn for a few years...

[REDVOLUTION]

Define greatness in NFLe. Is there such a thing?

Is it anything like the winner of the NIT basketball tournament that gets to say "We're #65!!!"

My guess is if you're sending someone to NFLe to address some questions, you probably already know the answers.

My guess would be that he is going over there if he can do the intangibles.

Basic QB functions. Handle some sort of pressure. Just basically get acclimated to playing a real time game(I use "real time game" loosely of course) LOL

[Wolverine]

I was just thinking that if Jay Cutler falls to #18 we should know a great deal about Parcell's plans based on what he does. If he passes on Cutler then we know that he is going to wait another year for a QB and go with the three we have now. If he takes Cutler, or another QB on the first day, we know that someone has to go, and that would prolly be Henson But what if Henson shows greatness in NFLE?

I don't believe he will have time to prove anything by draft day, and therefor, won't impact the decision(s). So all Henson can really do is play to be traded. Is there time for him to show anything before Bill and Jerruh have to make a decision come draft day?



It is fun to talk about if a Cutler should be there for us at #18 or this QB or that QB. But seriously....I do not even wanna see us draft a QB until Parcells is gone.

[Chuck 54]

I'd love to draft Cutler, but I don't see it happening...no way.

I'd like to take a flier on Charlie Whitehurst in round 2-3, but that won't happen either.

[big dog cowboy]

I'd love to draft Cutler, but I don't see it happening...no way.

I'd like to take a flier on Charlie Whitehurst in round 2-3, but that won't happen either.
I would be shocked if Cutler were still there at 18. Shocked!

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

I think the better question is, with Parcells here does it really matter what he proves at any point?

:eek:

Another year of watching Drew fade away after Thanksgiving. Those who fail to learn from their mistakes are doomed to watch Drew through another miserable December.

:bang2:

[iceberg]

Oh, well, I guess I don't pay enough attention to detail.:rolleyes:

well, that problem solved then. : ) next time keep up!

what drives one opposing fans opinion is the same that drives your own, i imagine.

[billknows]

Bill will not play him ,unless injury forces Henson to play... But Bill also will not cut or trade away Hensons potential,catch 22

[jackrussell]

My guess would be that he is going over there if he can do the intangibles.

Basic QB functions. Handle some sort of pressure. Just basically get acclimated to playing a real time game(I use "real time game" loosely of course) LOL

I'd say that's a fair assessment.

[kartr]

I was just thinking that if Jay Cutler falls to #18 we should know a great deal about Parcell's plans based on what he does. If he passes on Cutler then we know that he is going to wait another year for a QB and go with the three we have now. If he takes Cutler, or another QB on the first day, we know that someone has to go, and that would prolly be Henson But what if Henson shows greatness in NFLE?

I don't believe he will have time to prove anything by draft day, and therefor, won't impact the decision(s). So all Henson can really do is play to be traded. Is there time for him to show anything before Bill and Jerruh have to make a decision come draft day?

Cutler wont fall that far, but Jacobs will be available.

[kartr]

Parcells brought in Bledsoe(he also seems to like Romo with at least some intrigue with Henson whom we already know Jerry loves), he only has one to two years left to coach and Jerry said that they are going to do everything they can to shoot for the super bowl this next season. Drafting a qb in the first round isn't shooting for the super bowl next season.

Why do you say that, Washington drafted a qb in the first round and still made the playoffs. We could draft Jacobs in the second, release Romo and still have plenty of draft picks for our other needs.

[Hostile]

Why do you say that, Washington drafted a qb in the first round and still made the playoffs. We could draft Jacobs in the second, release Romo and still have plenty of draft picks for our other needs.Campbell had nothing to do with why they made the playoffs. They had a great defense to thank for that.

[kartr]

Campbell had nothing to do with why they made the playoffs. They had a great defense to thank for that.

Of course he didn't, but having a solid vet starter to mentor him for a year or two was a great idea, not to mention the fact that when he's ready in a year or two, both Moss and Portis and Cooley will be great weapons. My point was, that you can draft a talented young qb and win with the veteran at the same time. Plus, Washington isn't taking the cut-rate method of finding a qb of the future, they've drafted a 13-0 qb from a big school who was a four year starter and played in 4 systems in four years. That means he has to be a quick study to be able to handle constant change.

[Hostile]

Of course he didn't, but having a solid vet starter to mentor him for a year or two was a great idea, not to mention the fact that when he's ready in a year or two, both Moss and Portis and Cooley will be great weapons. My point was, that you can draft a talented young qb and win with the veteran at the same time. Plus, Washington isn't taking the cut-rate method of finding a qb of the future, they've drafted a 13-0 qb from a big school who was a four year starter and played in 4 systems in four years. That means he has to be a quick study to be able to handle constant change.Echoes of a Skins fan.

[Bob Sacamano]

Echoes of a Skins fan.'

why bother?

[kartr]

Echoes of a Skins fan.

I don't get the Skins fan reference. I thought they made a good choice in Campbell over Rodgers. He was a senior and in my opinion based upon the fact that he had played in different systems, was more mature and NFL ready. Al Borges, his last coordinator at Auburn said he picked up the West Coast Offense quicker than any qb he had ever had before. I respect Joe Gibbs because he is a winner and a class individual and no one is questioning whether his former assistants are the real genius behind his success. I thought that making the trade for Clintson Portis, an up and coming rb was a great move and it has paid off and I thought that Moss was better than Laverneus Coles as I watched him ascend from a 30th per centile WR to a top five one while playing with Quincy for three weeks and then watched his numbers go down again once Pennington returned. I just think that Gibbs has made excellent decisions the whole time he's been there, 2 years and is improving rapidly,especially with the signing of Al Saunders as offensive coordinator. How does admiring an adversary's skills make me a Redskins fan?

[Hostile]

I don't get the Skins fan reference. I thought they made a good choice in Campbell over Rodgers. He was a senior and in my opinion based upon the fact that he had played in different systems, was more mature and NFL ready. Al Borges, his last coordinator at Auburn said he picked up the West Coast Offense quicker than any qb he had ever had before. I respect Joe Gibbs because he is a winner and a class individual and no one is questioning whether his former assistants are the real genius behind his success. I thought that making the trade for Clintson Portis, an up and coming rb was a great move and it has paid off and I thought that Moss was better than Laverneus Coles as I watched him ascend from a 30th per centile WR to a top five one while playing with Quincy for three weeks and then watched his numbers go down again once Pennington returned. I just think that Gibbs has made excellent decisions the whole time he's been there, 2 years and is improving rapidly,especially with the signing of Al Saunders as offensive coordinator. How does admiring an adversary's skills make me a Redskins fan?I did NOT say it makes you a Skins fan. Do you know what echoes are? It means you sound just like one. You're using the same logic they would.

It's like standing on ledge of a canyon and yelling something. The echo coming back isn't you but it sounds just like you.

I have my doubts you are a Cowboys fan. Not a doubt in my mind you're a Quincy Carter fan, that's been established ad nauseum. Everyone is sick of that song from you. It's like Billy Ray Cyrus singing Achy Breaky Heart. You just want to rip the guitar from his hands and bash him over the head with it.

You don't seem to respond when the team, especially the QB that you don't like does good. You wait until he does bad then inundate everyone with a bunch of made up crap with no basis in fact and when anyone challenges you on this you run and hide.

Echoes of a Skins fan.