View Full Version : What role will Kevin Burnett play next year?
dallasfan
01-29-2006, 04:26 PM
We probably shouldn't count on him to have that big of an impact next year considering he did nothing this year, but what do you think Bill has planned for Burnett. At 6'2 240 I think he's big enough to play mlb for us. The only drawback to that is we may need a another big NT to split time with Ferguson, assuming we cut Glover. I believe he could be a monster sideline to sideline player with his speed, and he's big/quick enough to cover TE's as well as backs.
ddh33
01-29-2006, 04:28 PM
I think his future is as that "bubble" LB that Bill talked about before. I think he ended up having to do too many things this season, and his health gane him problems. If he gets well, he should be an asset.
Woods
01-29-2006, 04:33 PM
My initial feeling is that Burnett will be moved inside and we'll probably draft an OLB to complement Ware.
Plus, if we re-sign Fujita (sp?), and draft an OLB, the rookie can be eased in during the course of the season as Fujita and the rookie can initially share time.
dallasfan
01-29-2006, 04:36 PM
My initial feeling is that Burnett will be moved inside and we'll probably draft an OLB to complement Ware.
Plus, if we re-sign Fujita (sp?), and draft an OLB, the rookie can be eased in during the course of the season as Fujita and the rookie can initially share time.
That's what I'm hoping, I really want Manny Lawson (in my madden 06' franchise back in september I drafted this guy but the damn game would't let me switch him to LB), but I think we need an OT more.
bbgun
01-29-2006, 04:37 PM
Another second round turd served up by Jerry and friends.
Hostile
01-29-2006, 04:38 PM
My initial feeling is that Burnett will be moved inside and we'll probably draft an OLB to complement Ware.
Plus, if we re-sign Fujita (sp?), and draft an OLB, the rookie can be eased in during the course of the season as Fujita and the rookie can initially share time.I think you're right on the money with this. Fowler looks to be the ILB main backup. James will likely call the plays. Fujita on the Strong side and possibly Thornton on the Weak Side as backup. Shanle could stick if we keep 8.
Woods
01-29-2006, 04:42 PM
That's what I'm hoping, I really want Manny Lawson (in my madden 06' franchise back in september I drafted this guy but the damn game would't let me switch him to LB), but I think we need an OT more.
I'm guessing in FA we pick up a veteran RT, a PK, and a FS. Plus, we'll probably pick up 1-2 other "cheap" options later on during FA.
If we re-sign Fujita and Gurode, I think our main holes will be OLB (to more effectively run the 3-4) and WR (to help Glenn stretch the field). These concerns can be addressed in the Draft.
We'll probably draft a another Guard and/or Center as well to improve our OL and hopefully one NT to rotate with Fergy.
Hiero
01-29-2006, 04:49 PM
I think he moves inside next to James, and we get another lawson/carpenter/wimbley type outside.
neosapien23
01-29-2006, 04:50 PM
Another second round turd served up by Jerry and friends.
Thats a little harsh. The dude had legitimate injuries. I don't think he will contribute next year though. It takes about six months to be able to recover from an ACL injury and another six months to get your burst back. Edgerrin James needed a year to recover from his ACL injury.Burnett is not a turd, but he probably will not be able to contribute next year. Maybe Fujita can play ILB?
Woods
01-29-2006, 04:52 PM
I'm guessing in FA we pick up a veteran RT, a PK, and a FS. Plus, we'll probably pick up 1-2 other "cheap" options later on during FA.
If we re-sign Fujita and Gurode, I think our main holes will be OLB (to more effectively run the 3-4) and WR (to help Glenn stretch the field). These concerns can be addressed in the Draft.
We'll probably draft a another Guard and/or Center as well to improve our OL and hopefully one NT to rotate with Fergy.
I'll just add that I really hope that we would pick up a big NT in FA to complement Fergy, but I just don't see JJ/BP dishing out the big bucks for yet another NT (after paying Fergy big $$$$$ last year).
The NT will have to be found in the draft, IMO. (But I hope I'm wrong and we do dish out the money . . . .)
cowboyfan4life_mark
01-29-2006, 05:15 PM
Speaking of money...how far under are we as we currently stand? (No renogations, cuts, retired, etc....)
neosapien23
01-29-2006, 05:33 PM
Speaking of money...how far under are we as we currently stand? (No renogations, cuts, retired, etc....)
I think like 2 or 3 mill.
Clove
01-29-2006, 06:45 PM
I think Burnett should go ahead and move inside. I had him listed at 6'3 240. And he'll probably be closer to 250 by training camp.
We will know everything we need to about Burnett (in Parcells eyes) after draft day.
If he drafts an ILB or OLB that can play inside like Carpenter, then Burnett will be a back up.
joshjwp
01-29-2006, 07:03 PM
That's what I'm hoping, I really want Manny Lawson (in my madden 06' franchise back in september I drafted this guy but the damn game would't let me switch him to LB), but I think we need an OT more.
You can move DE to OLB, if you have enough DE for roster breakdown. If he was say your RDE and you had only one more, simply sign a free agent RDE and then move Lawson to OLB. Don't sign a LDE though, you have to have atleast 2 of each, which is why if you only have 2 they wont let you move one to another position.
Rush 2112
01-29-2006, 07:17 PM
Rooming with Jacob Rogers.
big dog cowboy
01-29-2006, 09:34 PM
We probably shouldn't count on him to have that big of an impact next year considering he did nothing this year
That makes no sense to me at all.
trueblue1687
01-29-2006, 09:57 PM
I think Burnett should go ahead and move inside. I had him listed at 6'3 240. And he'll probably be closer to 250 by training camp.
We will know everything we need to about Burnett (in Parcells eyes) after draft day.
If he drafts an ILB or OLB that can play inside like Carpenter, then Burnett will be a back up.
Having met the guy when he played here in TN, he looks a little thinner than 240 to me. He definately wouldn't hold up @ MLB. He's one of those guys who is cut to ribbons...lot of muscle on a medium frame. Don't get em wrong, he can do a great job when he's healthy, but I can't see him lasting long in the middle. Once healthy, he'll give plenty to smile about...just have to keep him on the field.
Bob Sacamano
01-29-2006, 10:04 PM
Having met the guy when he played here in TN, he looks a little thinner than 240 to me. He definately wouldn't hold up @ MLB. He's one of those guys who is cut to ribbons...lot of muscle on a medium frame. Don't get em wrong, he can do a great job when he's healthy, but I can't see him lasting long in the middle. Once healthy, he'll give plenty to smile about...just have to keep him on the field.
if Burnett can't hold up in the middle, Parcells won't consider the thought of him being one of his MLBs, so that speaks for itself that Parcells is thinking about using him as a MLB
the kid 05
01-29-2006, 10:07 PM
possable tansition to safety? It worked for the bears w/ Urlacher (cept vice versa)
Bob Sacamano
01-29-2006, 10:08 PM
That makes no sense to me at all.
me either, all rookies struggle, hell, just read that Mark Clayton of the Bucs, after a great rookie year, was disappointing this year, his 2nd
neosapien23
01-29-2006, 11:42 PM
It usually takes a player about a year to fully recover from an ACL tear. Edgerrin James did not return from his injury at full strength until a full year after his injury. I don't think Burnett will be able to contribute next year, but it isn't because he's soft. He will do his best to play, but he will not have his explosion until about next Jan. Unfortunately there things happen and we have to be patient. He has the talent, but we're going to have to wait for his health to return. We shouldn't give up on him. Jimmy Smith had health issues, but when he was finally healthy he tore the league up.
Clove
01-30-2006, 12:22 AM
Having met the guy when he played here in TN, he looks a little thinner than 240 to me. He definately wouldn't hold up @ MLB. He's one of those guys who is cut to ribbons...lot of muscle on a medium frame. Don't get em wrong, he can do a great job when he's healthy, but I can't see him lasting long in the middle. Once healthy, he'll give plenty to smile about...just have to keep him on the field.J. Farrior plays ILB for the Steelers and he's 6'2 243, and Foote plays right next to him at a whopping 6'0 239. And this group was 4th in rushing defense so I think Burnett has the perfect size.
Qwickdraw
01-30-2006, 01:16 AM
Burnett is a bust.
neosapien23
01-30-2006, 01:21 AM
Burnett is a bust.
Jimmy Smith was considered a bust too. Lets let Burnett get healthy before we consider him a bust.
Qwickdraw
01-30-2006, 01:38 AM
Jimmy Smith was considered a bust too. Lets let Burnett get healthy before we consider him a bust.
Im not jumping to conclusions because of his lack of playing.
I said last year in TC that somethig just wasnt right about KB.
Too cocky, maybe.
In any case, he may be good but I dont think BP likes him or trusts him. Therefor, he might be a bust.
mschmidt64
01-30-2006, 01:46 AM
Burnett is a bust.
I remember some saying Bradie James was a bust, too.
People don't learn.
Silverstar
01-30-2006, 01:49 AM
I think he moves inside next to James, and we get another lawson/carpenter/wimbley type outside.
Ditto
:)
big dog cowboy
01-30-2006, 06:15 AM
Burnett is a bust.
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Doomsday101
01-30-2006, 07:49 AM
I expect Burnett to make a push for a starters role. Injuries are part of the game and he has had to deal with them which set him back. If he can enter training camp healthy then I expect him to make a strong case for being a starter.
Qwickdraw
01-30-2006, 08:20 AM
:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Hmm...
a second round pick LBer who barely played for a team in dire need of LBers...
I don't see what's so funny.
ravidubey
01-30-2006, 08:31 AM
None. No role at all. A late season ACL tear means he'll be even more hobbled than normal in training camp and next year will be all but wasted. The guy can't walk and chew gum without getting hurt.
dallasfan
01-30-2006, 09:38 AM
You can move DE to OLB, if you have enough DE for roster breakdown. If he was say your RDE and you had only one more, simply sign a free agent RDE and then move Lawson to OLB. Don't sign a LDE though, you have to have atleast 2 of each, which is why if you only have 2 they wont let you move one to another position.
I tried. They let me switch his position, but just not to OLB. For some reason it doesn't let me in franchise mode (strangley they let me go from OLB to DE though).
superpunk
01-30-2006, 09:40 AM
Another second round turd served up by Jerry and friends.
Another jump-the-gun, end of the world post by bbgun.....:laugh2:
dallasfan
01-30-2006, 09:43 AM
That makes no sense to me at all.
I don't consider Burnett a bust after one year, but to believe he'll make a big impact next year is blind faith to me. I think he'll have some impact despite the acl tear, due to being more familiar with the defense, and hopefully playing in all 16 games, but I don't think he'll be huge playmaker.
Vertigo_17
01-30-2006, 09:53 AM
He'll bulk up and move inside to try and replace Dat. Anyone who's ready to give up in the guy after 1 injury riddled season should chill out. Most of you would have already dismissed Brady James and he came on strong last season.
Chocolate Lab
01-30-2006, 10:08 AM
Im not jumping to conclusions because of his lack of playing.
I said last year in TC that somethig just wasnt right about KB.
Too cocky, maybe.
In any case, he may be good but I dont think BP likes him or trusts him. Therefor, he might be a bust.
Unfortunately... I agree with you. I have a bad feeling he's always going to be nicked up.
And that hip surgery that he got last summer without telling the team was a very strange decision on his part, too.
I think he's got loads of talent -- that's not the question. It's just that, like you say, it won't be much -- if any -- longer before Parcells won't trust the guy. And that's nearly a kiss of death.
baj1dallas
01-30-2006, 10:19 AM
I think you're right on the money with this. Fowler looks to be the ILB main backup. James will likely call the plays. Fujita on the Strong side and possibly Thornton on the Weak Side as backup. Shanle could stick if we keep 8.
I'd rather add an inside LB in the draft than rely on James, Burnett, Fowler, and Shanle. That doesn't sound like a very secure unit to me.
AbeBeta
01-30-2006, 11:52 AM
None. No role at all. A late season ACL tear means he'll be even more hobbled than normal in training camp and next year will be all but wasted.
Actually, the timing of his injury means that he will be clear for mini camps and ready to go for TC.
He's an LB -- not a WR. It isn't going to have a huge impact on his play, especially if he moves to the middle.
neosapien23
01-30-2006, 01:42 PM
Actually, the timing of his injury means that he will be clear for mini camps and ready to go for TC.
He's an LB -- not a WR. It isn't going to have a huge impact on his play, especially if he moves to the middle.
He will be ready to play, but his cutting ability and burst will be severely affected. Alot of people don't return to form until the second season from the injury. I don't know how much of his speed he needs to play ILB, but he will not be the same physically for awhile. I expect more out of him in his 3rd year.
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