Ray Lewis and Chris McAlister on the block?

[SALADIN]

http://www.gbnreport.com/

Top Ravens’ stars could be shopped… There have been some quiet rumblings that Baltimore could be willing to trade one or both of defensive stars Ray Lewis and Chris McAlister as part of major overhaul of the Ravens’ roster.

How much would you give for one or both of them?

[Yeagermeister]

http://www.gbnreport.com/

Top Ravens’ stars could be shopped… There have been some quiet rumblings that Baltimore could be willing to trade one or both of defensive stars Ray Lewis and Chris McAlister as part of major overhaul of the Ravens’ roster.

How much would you give for one or both of them?
In a trade nothing.....wait until they are released

[1fisher]

I don't like ray lewis and that funky dance he does...... screams me me me me me......... always talks about HIS team.. Send him and TO both to Denver!:D

[Verdict]

I don't think there is room anywhere on our roster for Chris McAlester. On the other hand, I think Ray Lewis still has a little gas in the tank. We could use him at linebacker. I think he would be too expensive from a cost/benefit analysis, but I think he would be an asset to the defense. Not sure about the locker room, but he does bring fire.

[Yeagermeister]

I don't think there is room anywhere on our roster for Chris McAlester. On the other hand, I think Ray Lewis still has a little gas in the tank. We could use him at linebacker. I think he would be too expensive from a cost/benefit analysis, but I think he would be an asset to the defense. Not sure about the locker room, but he does bring fire.
Only way McCallister fits is at FS and at a much lower cap number

[lshaver22]

http://www.gbnreport.com/

Top Ravens’ stars could be shopped… There have been some quiet rumblings that Baltimore could be willing to trade one or both of defensive stars Ray Lewis and Chris McAlister as part of major overhaul of the Ravens’ roster.

How much would you give for one or both of them?

A worn out cassette of "Hysteria" from Def Leppard and my lucky flannel boxers (after they’ve been washed, of course).

[InmanRoshi]

McAlister is no where near the player he once was and its really not a need position. Lewis is still be an above average player and could fill a need position.

[SALADIN]

I don't think there is room anywhere on our roster for Chris McAlester. On the other hand, I think Ray Lewis still has a little gas in the tank. We could use him at linebacker. I think he would be too expensive from a cost/benefit analysis, but I think he would be an asset to the defense. Not sure about the locker room, but he does bring fire.

I think you could make room for a player who is better than any other DB on the current roster.

I also think Lewis has 4-5 good years in him. Remember when the Chargers thought that Jr. Seau was done?

[neosapien23]

Why not trade Glover straight up for McAlister? The dude is a talented CB and we could move Henry to FS. Glover will probably be cut anyway if he doesn't restrucuture.

[Yeagermeister]

Why not trade Glover straight up for McAlister? The dude is a talented CB and we could move Henry to FS. Glover will probably be cut anyway if he doesn't restrucuture.
I like the idea but switch the positions....keep Henry at cb and move McAlister to FS.

[neosapien23]

I like the idea but switch the positions....keep Henry at cb and move McAlister to FS.

McAlister is much faster than Henry, he has also made multiple probowls at CB. Either way I would be happy with McAlister as a FS or CB. I think the Ravens would agree to this trade. DT is a major weakness and Glover is still one of the best 4-3 DTs around.

[ABQCOWBOY]

I would take either guy. If we could sign McAlister, we could slide Henry to FS, play Newman and McAlister in bump and run and have Glenn available as your 3rd CB. That gives you a lagit 4 guys that can cover man to man all over the field. Frees up Roy for what he should be doing. You bring in Lewis and all of a sudden, you got a pretty talented ILB, with considerable experience in a 34. All of a sudden, you got Burnett, James, Lewis and Ware as your starters. That is a very formidable LB corp. With those guys and the youth we have on the DL, it allows you to play pressure defense all over the field. It would be monstrous. Automatically creates depth at just about every position, defensively. You mark your defense as a finished product and look twords the OL and WRs. Possibly even QB for FA and the draft. I would do it. I would consider moving Ellis, Glover and/or some combination of picks.

[Yeagermeister]

McAlister is much faster than Henry, he has also made multiple probowls at CB. Either way I would be happy with McAlister as a FS or CB. I think the Ravens would agree to this trade. DT is a major weakness and Glover is still one of the best 4-3 DTs around.
With all the injuries he's had recently and the rule changes McAlister isn't the cb he used to be.

[neosapien23]

I would take either guy. If we could sign McAlister, we could slide Henry to FS, play Newman and McAlister in bump and run and have Glenn available as your 3rd CB. That gives you a lagit 4 guys that can cover man to man all over the field. Frees up Roy for what he should be doing. You bring in Lewis and all of a sudden, you got a pretty talented ILB, with considerable experience in a 34. All of a sudden, you got Burnett, James, Lewis and Ware as your starters. That is a very formidable LB corp. With those guys and the youth we have on the DL, it allows you to play pressure defense all over the field. It would be monstrous. Automatically creates depth at just about every position, defensively. You mark your defense as a finished product and look twords the OL and WRs. Possibly even QB for FA and the draft. I would do it. I would consider moving Ellis, Glover and/or some combination of picks.

Only problem with Lewis is that he doesn't want to play in a 3-4. He beotched about doing it mulitple times. Plus he wants to get paid.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Only problem with Lewis is that he doesn't want to play in a 3-4. He beotched about doing it mulitple times. Plus he wants to get paid.

Well, if he gets traded, he's going to have to play. Besides, the fact that we play 34 and 43 might be appealing to him. Better then just straight out 34.

[Chocolate Lab]

Meh, I wouldn't want either one for what we'd have to give up to get them.

[Juke99]

No thanks...we are more than two old players away from SB contention...so I wouldn't want to give up anything to get them.

[ABQCOWBOY]

No thanks...we are more than two old players away from SB contention...so I wouldn't want to give up anything to get them.

Juke, I'm surprised. I didn't think you would see it this way.

McAlister is only in his 7th season. That's still prime time for him. As for Lewis, he's definatly getting a bit longer in the tooth but that may not be all bad. We have a lot of very young guys on our defense. A lot of guys who don't have a great deal of experience in a 34. Might not be so bad to have an older guy who knows where everybody is supposed to be lined up.

[Billy Bullocks]

I don't like ray lewis and that funky dance he does...... screams me me me me me......... always talks about HIS team.. Send him and TO both to Denver!:D

It was his team...he was the emotional leader. That guy got the rest of the guys jacked up. If you've ever played with a really good player at any level, that pushes you. If that player is amped, you get amped too.

[Manster54]

Forget those guys. I would LOVE to see Adalius Thomas play outside linebacker/DE for the Boys. He's the real beast (besides Reed) on the Baltimore defense.:eek:

[Juke99]

Juke, I'm surprised. I didn't think you would see it this way.

McAlister is only in his 7th season. That's still prime time for him. As for Lewis, he's definatly getting a bit longer in the tooth but that may not be all bad. We have a lot of very young guys on our defense. A lot of guys who don't have a great deal of experience in a 34. Might not be so bad to have an older guy who knows where everybody is supposed to be lined up.


I thought McCalister was closer to 30...Glenn did a nice job last year...Unless McCalister can switch to FS...

Lewis...I simply don't want any part of a guy who isn't going be there when we are an elite team...

I guess what I'm saying is, I'd have no problem biting the bullet and watching us rebuild rather than trying to patch up things with older guys..

[Future]

i think we are fine at CB, no need to put a high priced player there. and i hate the idea of moving a CB to FS, regardless of who it is...just my opinion

as for ray lew, i would love to have him here. no way do teams run us over in the 4th quarter up by 3 with him on the team, i think his emotional impact could be that strong.
only problem is that he would take a beating as a 3-4 MLB, and i dont think he can hack it. I remember one MNF game he played i think last year where he was complaining about being triple teamed, when it was just a guard every time.

[Bob Sacamano]

Remember when the Chargers thought that Jr. Seau was done?

good arse point

I for one, think we could use Ray Ray for nothing other than the fact that he's a veteran, something we sorely missed with Dat and Al out hurt, and a locker-room leader

[Bob Sacamano]

Why not trade Glover straight up for McAlister? The dude is a talented CB and we could move Henry to FS. Glover will probably be cut anyway if he doesn't restrucuture.

what is with you guys and wanting to give up so much for a FS?

[Bob Sacamano]

Juke, I'm surprised. I didn't think you would see it this way.

McAlister is only in his 7th season. That's still prime time for him. As for Lewis, he's definatly getting a bit longer in the tooth but that may not be all bad. We have a lot of very young guys on our defense. A lot of guys who don't have a great deal of experience in a 34. Might not be so bad to have an older guy who knows where everybody is supposed to be lined up.

great point, we suffered on D because of the tremendous youth in our LBs

[SALADIN]

I thought McAlister was closer to 30...Glenn did a nice job last year...Unless McCalister can switch to FS...

Lewis...I simply don't want any part of a guy who isn't going be there when we are an elite team...

I guess what I'm saying is, I'd have no problem biting the bullet and watching us rebuild rather than trying to patch up things with older guys..

Well, as far as McAlister. He'll be 29 in June. And the question still stands...which of the Cowboys DB's are better then McAlister?

After '00 his int totals dropped because teams stopped throwing to his side. Does the drop in his int's make him a better coverage DB then Newman?

As a football fan, but more importantly as a Cowboys fan I'll never understand why some fans aren’t willing for the owners (JJ) to pay a premium on players who can play zero coverage and players who can get after the QB.

Juke, I must say that I'm a little disappointed in you're opinion about what could be Ray Lewis's contribution to the 2006 Cowboys. I think that with a little tweaking this off-season, this team can be an elite team in 2006. With the exception of Pitt, (who we should have beat last year, 2004), the Cowboys fought toe to toe with every team who played in their respective conference championship games. Denver, Seattle, & Carolina are teams that the Cowboys, did, could (and should) have W’s versus. I think that if healthy, which Lewis has been for most of his career, can be at the very least a productive contributor on a this defense and the emotional presence that this Cowboys team has been missing since those glory days.

In 2006 this Cowboys team can be an elite team.

Just my opinion my man

[big dog cowboy]

great point, we suffered on D because of the tremendous youth in our LBs
It wasn't our youth. Dat and Al got hurt.

[Bob Sacamano]

Dat and Al got hurt.

and left us with...

btw, I should have said one of the reasons was youth

[big dog cowboy]

and left us with...

btw, I should have said one of the reasons was youth
Hey we will fix the LB's this off season so it is all good.

[MDCowboy]

I wouldn't give up anything for either of them.

Ray Lewis doesn't like to take on blockers, so he isn't a fit for the 3-4. Plus he is in decline.

McAllister has character issues. He has been suspended by the team a couple of times and has been busted for weed and drunk driving.

I would like to see the Cowboys get another CB and move Henry to FS. The CB that I think the Cowboys should get in FA is Nate Clements.

[dbair1967]

http://www.gbnreport.com/

Top Ravens’ stars could be shopped… There have been some quiet rumblings that Baltimore could be willing to trade one or both of defensive stars Ray Lewis and Chris McAlister as part of major overhaul of the Ravens’ roster.

How much would you give for one or both of them?

nothing to be honest...Ray Lewis hasnt been good for two yrs now and is a freaking thug, plus he is getting old

McCalister is coming off a so-so yr and has had his share of troubles as well, not to mention the fact that we have 3 good CB's already on the roster (two of which played better than McCalister this yr)

David

[dbair1967]

I think you could make room for a player who is better than any other DB on the current roster.

I also think Lewis has 4-5 good years in him. Remember when the Chargers thought that Jr. Seau was done?

I think you are watching your Madden football too much

McCalister wasnt better than Newman or Henry last yr, and is older than both, plus he has had alot of issues off the field and in the lockerroom

Lewis hasnt been good for two yrs now and is a pure thug

David

[cujo]

A worn out cassette of "Hysteria" from Def Leppard and my lucky flannel boxers (after they’ve been washed, of course).\





Dude, are you crazy? Keep the Def Lep cassette and just offer the boxers. Ray Lewis is washed up and can't stay healthy. And we have good corners so unless he's willing to play FS for cheap (not likely) we don't need him.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Interesting to me that so many would play McAlister at Safety rather then Henry. Some may recall, Henry came into the league as a FS with Cleveland. A season in which Henry had 10 Interceptions while playing Safety. In his other 4 season combined, at CB, he has only manged 10 ints combined.

I guess I'm just not getting the big picture here but to me, in the unlikely event we were able to sign McAlister, Henry would be the logical choice at FS as opposed to McAlister. JMO