Tom Landry, something u guys might like to know

[cowboyjoe]

Hey Guys, Ive always admired Tom Landry, thought you might like to know this. I am sure your aware he was a bomber pilot with the legendary 8th Air Force, during World War 2. What you might not know, is that most pilots went to 25 missions, then went home. Landry went up to 30 missions. Also, one emergency landing Landry was in, his plane all shot up, he had to do an emergency landing, and both wings were sheared off. Also, he was honored by the Air Force, and allowed to fly any airplane he wanted later in his life. Just thought you guys might like to know.

[burmafrd]

Any real Cowboy fan already knew about Landry and his war service.

[Rack Bauer]

Any real Cowboy fan already knew about Landry and his war service.


:rolleyes:


Yes, all the people that didn't know this... they aren't "real" cowboys fans.



Again, :rolleyes: .

[Rockytop6]

I think the most telling statment I ever heard about Tom Landry was when his nine feet statue was unveiled at Cowboy stadium and his wife Alicia said
"I remember him as being taller than that".

[ABQCOWBOY]

Thank you for posting that Joe. One can never get enough education on a topic as near and dear to my heart as Coach Landry.

I did not know he was honored in such a way by the USAF. After all, it was not the AF he served with but rather the Army Air Corp.

Thanks again Joe.

[Rack Bauer]

Thank you for posting that Joe. One can never get enough education on a topic as near and dear to my heart as Coach Landry.

I did not know he was honored in such a way by the USAF. After all, it was not the AF he served with but rather the Army Air Corp.

Thanks again Joe.


Then you aren't a "real" cowboys fan! :)

[gbrittain]

Any real Cowboy fan already knew about Landry and his war service.

I am willing to bet there thousands and thousands if not millions of young Cowboy fans who do not know about Landry's military service or that he flew 30 instead of 25 missions.

[Bungarian]

I still laugh when I hear the jab he took at Jerry in his HOF speech.

[joseephuss]

I like Landry talking about his first season in Dallas:

"Our guys were afraid to touch the football, it was so dangerous," Landry later remembered. "Eddie LeBaron [the quarterback] used to raise his hand for a fair catch before taking the snap from the center."

Something you may not know is that after he retired he was a pitch man for Abercrombie & Fitch. Something tells me their ad campaign was a little different back then compared to today.

[ABQCOWBOY]

Then you aren't a "real" cowboys fan! :)

Yes it's true. When cut I do bleed Burnt Orange but hey, my field dressing is always Matallic Silver Blue and White, with little stars all over.

:laugh2:

[parchy]

Has anybody else read 'Landry's Boys?' It really vilifies Landry. I don't know much about Golenbock, but his view of the team is really negative. It's mostly oral, so it's all interviews, but the parts where he does actually write are almost always slagging on Landry. "The players hated him...he couldn't stick with quarterbacks...he was indecisive..."

Not one damn positive thing. Needless to say I couldn't finish it.

[RCowboyFan]

Has anybody else read 'Landry's Boys?' It really vilifies Landry. I don't know much about Golenbock, but his view of the team is really negative. It's mostly oral, so it's all interviews, but the parts where he does actually write are almost always slagging on Landry. "The players hated him...he couldn't stick with quarterbacks...he was indecisive..."

Not one damn positive thing. Needless to say I couldn't finish it.

Couldn't blame ya. I admit I don't know everything about Landry since my knowledge is mostly Jimmy Era onwards. But any Coach, who had that kind of unprecendet consecutive winning seasons, cannot be hated by his players. That would be such an idiotic statement if he said that about Coach Landry.

[joseephuss]

Couldn't blame ya. I admit I don't know everything about Landry since my knowledge is mostly Jimmy Era onwards. But any Coach, who had that kind of unprecendet consecutive winning seasons, cannot be hated by his players. That would be such an idiotic statement if he said that about Coach Landry.

There are always going to be a few players that hate the coach. That happens on every team, but the majority of Cowboy's players either liked or at least respected Landry. Same with Jimmy Johnson or Vince Lombardi. You can't please everyone and the coaches job isn't to please any player, it is to win games.

[neosapien23]

Does anyone know about Robert Kalsu? He was a buffalo bill guard that gave up football to fight in Vietnam. He died in combat. He was the original Pat Tillman, although I'm not taking anything away from Tillman. He too gave the ultimate sacrifice.

[rynochop]

There are always going to be a few players that hate the coach. That happens on every team, but the majority of Cowboy's players either liked or at least respected Landry.

Exactly. Even today when you hear Pearson, or Charley Waters or whoever on the radio they always refer to him as Coach Landry.

[Cbz40]

"Discipline won close games; both Cliff and I were convinced. Tom Landry believed in discipline. He was descpline, and all those who worked for him were disciplined______or they were gone. We playersnot only held him in awe, we also feared him in a strange way. Why? It was the aura and perfection that he projected. His expectations of us planted a fear of unimaginable consequences if we failed, though it wasn't fear of his retribution, it was the fear of disappointing him. We didn't want to let him down, especially with mental mistakes."

Tales from the Dallas Cowboys......Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters.


That says it all about what 99.9% of his players thought of Coach Landry.

[Haley94]

When i was Kid i had a comic book that told told the whole laundry story from WWII to the Giants to the Dallas Cowboys. It had a christian theme to it. Does anyone remember this?

[Manster68]

That had to have ben a gut-wrenching experience flying the B-17 unprotected over Germany - especially in the daylight hours that the American pilots had to endure.

[FoldedSpace]

"Prior to 1944, a crewman's tour of duty was set at 25 missions. As a measure of the hazards they would encounter, it is estimated that the average crewman had only a one in four chance of actually completing his tour of duty. "

http://www.eyewitnesstohistory.com/b17.htm

[Cajuncowboy]

When i was Kid i had a comic book that told told the whole laundry story from WWII to the Giants to the Dallas Cowboys. It had a christian theme to it. Does anyone remember this?

I have that comic book to this day.

[Bob Sacamano]

I am willing to bet there thousands and thousands if not millions of young Cowboy fans who do not know about Landry's military service or that he flew 30 instead of 25 missions.

I didn't know this, so I'm very grateful that I got a chance to learn it

thank you CowboyJoe, and shame on you burmafrd

[xpistofer]

That comic book was one of the reasons I became a Cowboy fan...

Tom Landry was so great...

[burmafrd]

I said a REAL COWBOY FAN. That is a fan that has been there most of his adult life and is interested in things BEYOND THE FOOTBALL FIELD. If some of you poor souls don't like that, too bad. Now if you are a kid, that is another story. But there are mostly adults here, so TOO BAD if you got your panties in twist.

[Rack Bauer]

I said a REAL COWBOY FAN. That is a fan that has been there most of his adult life and is interested in things BEYOND THE FOOTBALL FIELD. If some of you poor souls don't like that, too bad. Now if you are a kid, that is another story. But there are mostly adults here, so TOO BAD if you got your panties in twist.



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[Aikmaniac]

If you're an aviation buff like I am, I love stories like these. If interested, I found a link to the history of the 493rd BG of the 8th Air Force.

http://www.493bg.com/

B-17's, B-24's, and B-29's.

How would you like to be the guy that said, "Landry was my co-pilot." :)

[Fmart322]

I think the most telling statment I ever heard about Tom Landry was when his nine feet statue was unveiled at Cowboy stadium and his wife Alicia said
"I remember him as being taller than that".



That's a great line by Mrs. landry. I remember him being taller then that as well.

http://blackdcc.net/Quickstart/ImageLib/DCC_Landry_bronze.jpg

This picture here shows just how tall he is. see how he towers over Rayfield Wright.
http://blackdcc.net/Quickstart/ImageLib/DCC_Landry_SBVI.jpg

[burmafrd]

Landry was a DB with no speed. He made it by studying the game films -harder then anyone else- and the opposing offenses. the joke in the Giants offices was:"where are the game films? Where else- Landry has them!" they made him a coach since he already was coaching the other players.

[Fmart322]

When i was Kid i had a comic book that told told the whole laundry story from WWII to the Giants to the Dallas Cowboys. It had a christian theme to it. Does anyone remember this?


I remember that and I live in New Jersey.

[fortdick]

I think the most telling statment I ever heard about Tom Landry was when his nine feet statue was unveiled at Cowboy stadium and his wife Alicia said
"I remember him as being taller than that".

That made me snot up and make little whinny noises! I guess I am a sensitive guy after all.

:o:

[jimmy40]

Thank you for posting that Joe. One can never get enough education on a topic as near and dear to my heart as Coach Landry.

I did not know he was honored in such a way by the USAF. After all, it was not the AF he served with but rather the Army Air Corp.

Thanks again Joe.was there an actual USAF during WWII?

[Aikmaniac]

was there an actual USAF during WWII?

Nope...it was called the Army Air Force or Army Air Corps

[jimmy40]

Nope...it was called the Army Air Force or Army Air CorpsThank you, I didn't think so.

[Chief]

When i was Kid i had a comic book that told told the whole laundry story from WWII to the Giants to the Dallas Cowboys. It had a christian theme to it. Does anyone remember this?

I had a copy of it and it made a big impression on me.

The one I had was called "Tom Landry and the Dallas Cowboys."

It showed locker room interviews with Landry, Staubach and others after the Super Bowl win over Miami.

[ABQCOWBOY]

was there an actual USAF during WWII?

No, as was mentioned earlier. United States Air Force was created in 1947, I believe, after WWII. Before that, it was the Army Air Corp. Origninally, it had it's origins in what was then the US Army Signal Corp, Auronautical Division. The first squadron formed in the United States Army was the 1st Aero Squadran in 1913. The rest, as they say, is history.

Useless, but none the less, boring trivia.

:D

[MinnesotaCowboy]

I am very surprised that no one mentioned the book/movie "North Dallas Forty" by Pete Gent, a wide receiver for the Cowboys. The book/movie portrayed most of the Cowboys as drunks, drug-users, bad , or just plain idiots. Landry was portrayed as an religious fanatic with who hid his morality as long as he could win. Although pure fiction the book had big sales, as did the movie and I can remember being extremely angry with Pete Gent and to this day felt betrayed that a former Cowboy would write such trash even though it had a few funny moments!:grrr:

[jem88]

:rolleyes:


Yes, all the people that didn't know this... they aren't "real" cowboys fans.



Again, :rolleyes: . Seriously. I didn't know about Landry's past and to be honest, I really couldn't care less. Great coach though.

[jackrussell]

I said a REAL COWBOY FAN. That is a fan that has been there most of his adult life and is interested in things BEYOND THE FOOTBALL FIELD. If some of you poor souls don't like that, too bad. Now if you are a kid, that is another story. But there are mostly adults here, so TOO BAD if you got your panties in twist.

Yet another reminder in a long list of who is and who isn't exactly a real Cowboy's fan.:loser:

[davidyee]

I have that comic book to this day.

...I also have that comic book. It's now in a plastic baggy although it is well worn. Just part of my Cowboys memorabilia.

The Christian comic book series was well done. Lot's of other titles of different personalities in history. My older sister bought me about twnety titles, but the Cowboys one was the only one I kept.

[Haley94]

I had a copy of it and it made a big impression on me.

The one I had was called "Tom Landry and the Dallas Cowboys."

It showed locker room interviews with Landry, Staubach and others after the Super Bowl win over Miami.

here's a link to it on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/TOM-LANDRY-and-the-DALLAS-COWBOYS-1973-Great-collector_W0QQitemZ6604480650QQcategoryZ12592QQssP ageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem