View Full Version : Where is WARE ???
EMMITSWIFT
02-12-2006, 05:10 PM
After seeing Lofa and Merriman (who I wanted badly in last years draft) I think he deserves to be in the pro-bowl as much as either of those 2.:bang2::banghead::bang2::banghead::bang2::banghe ad::banghead::bang2:
Future
02-12-2006, 05:10 PM
he wasnt in the playoffs...
Hoods
02-12-2006, 05:16 PM
he wasnt in the playoffs...
Neither were alot of these players. It's the Probowl not the Players In The Playoffs Bowl.
Future
02-12-2006, 05:18 PM
actually take that back, chargers werent in the playoffs
idk why hes not in...just not effective enough int he middle of the season
Cbz40
02-12-2006, 05:22 PM
Ware is letting Merriman have his shot at a pro bowl. Ware will be in the next 10. :rolleyes: :)
EMMITSWIFT
02-12-2006, 05:33 PM
Ware is letting Merriman have his shot at a pro bowl. Ware will be in the next 10. :rolleyes: :)I hope your right but I still think Merriman is going to be a BEAST ... Not that Ware wont.:cool:
Cbz40
02-12-2006, 05:35 PM
I hope your right but I still think Merriman is going to be a BEAST ... Not that Ware wont.:cool:
I think we will be seeing both of them in the pro bowl for years to come.:)
CM Duck
02-12-2006, 05:46 PM
hopefully he is at home. studying, training, lifting weights, and getting ready to dominate next year.
i think the bigger question should be...
why isn't T-New in the Pro Bowl?
EMMITSWIFT
02-12-2006, 05:51 PM
hopefully he is at home. studying, training, lifting weights, and getting ready to dominate next year.
i think the bigger question should be...
why isn't T-New in the Pro Bowl?True on Newman... I hope Ware is also watching the game today knowing hes just as good as any of these LBs. It seemed like he lost confidence halfway thru the year.
Cbz40
02-12-2006, 05:57 PM
True on Newman... I hope Ware is also watching the game today knowing hes just as good as any of these LBs. It seemed like he lost confidence halfway thru the year.
Also agree on Newman.......Ware may have lost some confidence but he seemed to have regained it in the Carolina game. I also think he could have possibly ran out of gas.
Merriman was the bigger player, more ready to play with Big School experience. At age 21 its amazing how fast he is in Pro Bowl.
Ware is an investment that will be more a future edge rush guy. Both should be good one's for a decade.
Cbz40
02-12-2006, 06:02 PM
Merriman was the bigger player, more ready to play with Big School experience. At age 21 its amazing how fast he is in Pro Bowl.
Ware is an investment that will be more a future edge rush guy. Both should be good one's for a decade.
I agree Nors .....Book it.:)
Chuck 54
02-12-2006, 06:07 PM
After seeing Lofa and Merriman (who I wanted badly in last years draft) I think he deserves to be in the pro-bowl as much as either of those 2.:bang2::banghead::bang2::banghead::bang2::banghe ad::banghead::bang2:
I like Demarcus Ware as much as anyone, and I have great hopes for him, but people don't want to face the facts that he didn't have a ProBowl year, didn't have a consistant year.
Fact...he had 1 monster game. Against Carolina, he had 3 plays where he looped around the OT and slapped the ball from his hand, causing 3 fumbles and being credited with 3 sacks on the same 3 plays. Great job, but try looking at his stats for the other 15 games...he's going to be a very good player and hopefully a probowler down the road, but looking at the flashy stats that put you in the PROBOWL as a pass rusher, he racked up 3 forced fumbles and 3 sacks on 3 plays in one game without even hitting the QB.
Unless voters were watching the Carolina game before voting (nope), he had no chance of making it to Hawaii this year.
Bob Sacamano
02-12-2006, 06:09 PM
I hope Ware is also watching the game today knowing hes just as good as any of these LBs. It seemed like he lost confidence halfway thru the year.
I don't think he lost confidence, just was perplexed by the game at times, and I hope he's concentrating on his game, instead of worrying about the Pro Bowl, and I bet he is, cuz he's a good kid, not that I'm not, but still :)
big dog cowboy
02-12-2006, 06:11 PM
Ware may have lost some confidence but he seemed to have regained it in the Carolina game. I also think he could have possibly ran out of gas.
Confidence......gas.........Zimmer.
Pick any option.
Bob Sacamano
02-12-2006, 06:12 PM
I like Demarcus Ware as much as anyone, and I have great hopes for him, but people don't want to face the facts that he didn't have a ProBowl year, didn't have a consistant year.
Fact...he had 1 monster game. Against Carolina, he had 3 plays where he looped around the OT and slapped the ball from his hand, causing 3 fumbles and being credited with 3 sacks on the same 3 plays. Great job, but try looking at his stats for the other 15 games...he's going to be a very good player and hopefully a probowler down the road, but looking at the flashy stats that put you in the PROBOWL as a pass rusher, he racked up 3 forced fumbles and 3 sacks on 3 plays in one game without even hitting the QB.
Unless voters were watching the Carolina game before voting (nope), he had no chance of making it to Hawaii this year.
he had a chance for the Pro Bowl when he had a sack in 4 consecutive games, and I don't care how you make a play, if you do it, it's like any other big play, so I dont' get why you are putting asteriks around his stats in the Carolina game, Ware performed exactly how the Cowboy's coaching staff hoped he would perform this year, acting as a pass-rushing threat off the edge, and leading the team in plays in the opponent's backfield, look past the stats bro
Bob Sacamano
02-12-2006, 06:13 PM
and remember, Parcells said he wanted to see how Ware would fare once teams started concentrating on him, after those 4 sacks in 4 weeks, he was the focus of opposing offenses, and struggled, as expected, then came around in the Carolina game, he had a very good year
Chuck 54
02-12-2006, 06:16 PM
he had a chance for the Pro Bowl when he had a sack in 4 consecutive games, and I don't care how you make a play, if you do it, it's like any other big play, so I dont' get why you are putting asteriks around his stats in the Carolina game, Ware performed exactly how the Cowboy's coaching staff hoped he would perform this year, acting as a pass-rushing threat off the edge, and leading the team in plays in the opponent's backfield, look past the stats bro
Because he did it all in one game after most of the probowl votes were in. Let's not forget what happened after those first 4 sacks...he was virtually invisible for close to 10 games in a row...how many sacks during the key time when guys were about to vote for the ProBowl?
My point is that Ware had no chance to go to the probowl at the time they were voting because no one saw him do anything for a long long time. Before the CArolina game, no one would have even made him a starting LB on the all rookie team, much less the ProBowl.
Chuck 54
02-12-2006, 06:18 PM
and remember, Parcells said he wanted to see how Ware would fare once teams started concentrating on him, after those 4 sacks in 4 weeks, he was the focus of opposing offenses, and struggled, as expected, then came around in the Carolina game, he had a very good year
You just made my argument for me....I never said he didn't do well for Dallas or that he didn't do what the coaches wanted him to do...didn't even say he wasn't the best pass rusher on the Dallas team....but none of those get you elected to the ProBowl...you have to be considered 1 of the best 3-4 lbs in the NFC at the time the voting takes place. No way he was that.
Bob Sacamano
02-12-2006, 06:20 PM
You just made my argument for me....I never said he didn't do well for Dallas or that he didn't do what the coaches wanted him to do...didn't even say he wasn't the best pass rusher on the Dallas team....but none of those get you elected to the ProBowl...you have to be considered 1 of the best 3-4 lbs in the NFC at the time the voting takes place. No way he was that.
now I see what you're saying, but he was neck-and-neck with Merriman, so if Merriman deserved to go, then Ware had a shot to go too, but the voters felt differently because Merriman had his big games at the right time
Chuck 54
02-12-2006, 06:24 PM
now I see what you're saying, but he was neck-and-neck with Merriman, so if Merriman deserved to go, then Ware had a shot to go too, but the voters felt differently because Merriman had his big games at the right time
exactly...and he made the Jacked up type plays because he's a huge hitter....and then you also have to look at the top LBs in the NFC vs. the AFC....personally, I think if Merriman went on his numbers alone, he wouldn't have made it either, but I understand he had some Roy Williams type hits this year that seem to excite the voters and fellow players more than the same tackle without the ESPN airtime.
davidyee
02-12-2006, 11:21 PM
...is hopefully beginning to workout and watch film in preparation for next season.
Anything less and I will be disappointed.
BARRYRAY
02-13-2006, 08:59 AM
This is a great opportunity for me to apologize to all the folks who said draft Merriman over Ware, Merriman was better this year, you guys were right, I was wrong, we got the wrong guy, Spears was worse, he plays but not alot of highlight reel material. We'll have to see if they improve next year...
Yeagermeister
02-13-2006, 09:09 AM
If all Ware had to worry about was rushing the passer like Merriman, not taking anything away from Merriman, he would have had better numbers. It's rather hard to rush the passer when you have to drop back in to coverage also.
Chuck 54
02-13-2006, 10:47 AM
I think Ware will be a good player, but Merriman is clearly a more physical and emotional player so he'll always get more recognition. Merriman's nickname since college has been "Lights Out" because he lays huge hits ala Roy Williams. He also has a more emotional style on the field. Even if Ware's numbers parallel Merriman's, he'll never get the same recognition.
Clearly there was something about Merriman's attitude, cockiness, tatoos or something that Bill didn't like. Hopefully we won't be talking about Ware/Merriman the way we talk about Ellis/Moss in 5-6 years.
Clove
02-13-2006, 11:20 AM
This is why it is important to find a cloan for Ware. 2 guys that will be beast that teams have to worry about. Ware is smaller than Merriman and maybe a tad bit slower, but Ware is also as stong as an ox.
We need pressure, and strong pressure, from both ends. Ware just needs to keep getting better/stronger and help us win the SuperBowl so Ware can be like Emmitt Smith compared to Barry Sanders. One puts up stats, and the other wins Superbowls.
speedkilz88
02-13-2006, 11:26 AM
I really liked Merriman last year before the draft and I wasn't as sure about Ware due to his only playing end in college. But after seeing both play in the nfl, I am positive the Cowboys got the better player and Ware will prove that over his career. Merriman is a huge guy and very good player, but he doesn't have anywhere as much athletic ability and speed that Ware does. This past year was all about converting Ware to LB and he still had similar numbers. This next season they need to get him a bookend and he will be one of the best in the league.
Seven
02-13-2006, 01:25 PM
I think Ware will be a good player, but Merriman is clearly a more physical and emotional player so he'll always get more recognition. Merriman's nickname since college has been "Lights Out" because he lays huge hits ala Roy Williams. He also has a more emotional style on the field. Even if Ware's numbers parallel Merriman's, he'll never get the same recognition.
Clearly there was something about Merriman's attitude, cockiness, tatoos or something that Bill didn't like. Hopefully we won't be talking about Ware/Merriman the way we talk about Ellis/Moss in 5-6 years.
His representation.............
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