So Will The Owners Approve The Deal Or Not?..

[CaptainAmerica]

...The following is from the Washington Post's story on the developments last night and this morning: "This morning's development means the owners will now vote on an approved deal instead of a proposal."


For those who know how all of this works, does this mean the owners are now likely to approve the deal when they meet this week?

[joseephuss]

Eventually. I think there may be some tweaking, but it will get signed in the next few days or weeks.

[Nors]

What is the deal?

My guess is at 59.5% of revenues - no. It was a 60% to 56% stalemate. Now they can pretty up % to save face for side that has to fold.


This wreaks of Tags buying 3 days to take NFLPA offer on table back for "reconsideration".

I sense this will bump up against Deadline again - before any agreement is struck. Also - note the owners need 24 votes to pass deal.

[AtlCB]

...The following is from the Washington Post's story on the developments last night and this morning: "This morning's development means the owners will now vote on an approved deal instead of a proposal."


For those who know how all of this works, does this mean the owners are now likely to approve the deal when they meet this week?I can't imagine the small market teams agreeing to this without revenue sharing.

[Yeagermeister]

I hope so just so the nfl can move on and get down to business.

[AbeBeta]

Eventually. I think there may be some tweaking, but it will get signed in the next few days or weeks.

the owners can't tweek the deal. they either approve the agreement or not.

if the owners reject this deal then there is going to be no deal for a considerable period of time. and I expect that Tags would resign.

[peplaw06]

I think the way this has been spun by Tags and the media is BS... Calling this a "deal pending owner approval..." That's been the case all along. 56 to 60% stalemate, they said the deal was dead as a doornail. So the Union moves a half of a percentage point, and Tags says no... Then he says, well give me the deal, I'll take it to the owners and see what they say. They're not gonna accept this as is, that means it's not a deal.

[Champsheart]

...The following is from the Washington Post's story on the developments last night and this morning: "This morning's development means the owners will now vote on an approved deal instead of a proposal."


For those who know how all of this works, does this mean the owners are now likely to approve the deal when they meet this week?

I do not know much about this stuff and how it works, but I really do not think the Owners are going to approval their proposal. I think this is a complete waste of time. JMO

[joseephuss]

the owners can't tweek the deal. they either approve the agreement or not.

if the owners reject this deal then there is going to be no deal for a considerable period of time. and I expect that Tags would resign.

They said it would be considerable time before even they got to this point. There could still be some back and forth on this. Nothin major as I think they are close. It isn't as if the owners don't know what the deal is right now. They are part of the negotiations.

[joseephuss]

I can't imagine the small market teams agreeing to this without revenue sharing.

Revenue sharing already exists. The big contracts, tv and apparel are all shared equally.

[Doomsday101]

Revenue sharing already exists. The big contracts, tv and apparel are all shared equally.

True only dispute appears to be over local revenue and I'm on Jerry side when it comes to that.

[aikemirv]

You know the funny part about revenue sharing is that the union is all for as much sharing as possible, but in the end that idea will hurt players salaries and bonuses more because guys like Jerry will not have as much cash to make deals in FA and the guys who are getting Jerry's and Danny's revenue are still going to hoard it and not spend the big money on players.

Somehow Upshaw thinks that just because more money is shared that it will go to the players and that is not necessarily true at all, unless there is a big minimum that a club can spend and I have not seen that at all.!

[joseephuss]

You know the funny part about revenue sharing is that the union is all for as much sharing as possible, but in the end that idea will hurt players salaries and bonuses more because guys like Jerry will not have as much cash to make deals in FA and the guys who are getting Jerry's and Danny's revenue are still going to hoard it and not spend the big money on players.

Somehow Upshaw thinks that just because more money is shared that it will go to the players and that is not necessarily true at all, unless there is a big minimum that a club can spend and I have not seen that at all.!

That is a great point.

[AbeBeta]

They said it would be considerable time before even they got to this point. There could still be some back and forth on this. Nothin major as I think they are close. It isn't as if the owners don't know what the deal is right now. They are part of the negotiations.

No, it isn't part of negotiations. Tags's job is to negotiate deals for the owners. Tags worked out a deal with the union. Negotiations done.

If the owners don't like that deal that Tags and Upshaw worked so hard to strike, then it amounts to a no confidence vote for Tags. And as I noted before, Tags may resign if that happens. Similarly if the players refuse to ratify the deal, Upshaw is done.

[SkinsHokieFan]

You guys need to spy on the meeting

[aikemirv]

No, it isn't part of negotiations. Tags's job is to negotiate deals for the owners. Tags worked out a deal with the union. Negotiations done.

If the owners don't like that deal that Tags and Upshaw worked so hard to strike, then it amounts to a no confidence vote for Tags. And as I noted before, Tags may resign if that happens. Similarly if the players refuse to ratify the deal, Upshaw is done.

From reading the reports it does not look as if Tags is married to the deal and presenting it to the owners as a fair deal to me. It just looks like an effort to get the thing moving again.

I see no "I will resign if the owners don't sign" in this proposal at all. It is a group of people anyway, not just Tags.

"The NFL negotiators called us tonight after our negotiations broke off to indicate that they will take our complete package to the owners for an approval vote on Tuesday,

[Rockytop6]

the owners can't tweek the deal. they either approve the agreement or not.

if the owners reject this deal then there is going to be no deal for a considerable period of time. and I expect that Tags would resign.

I hope he would resign.

[Rockytop6]

I think the way this has been spun by Tags and the media is BS... Calling this a "deal pending owner approval..." That's been the case all along. 56 to 60% stalemate, they said the deal was dead as a doornail. So the Union moves a half of a percentage point, and Tags says no... Then he says, well give me the deal, I'll take it to the owners and see what they say. They're not gonna accept this as is, that means it's not a deal.

There is no guarantee that the players will accept it. It should read "pending the owners approval and the players ratification".

I would hate for Tags and Upshaw to be in charge of anything that I had anything to do with.

[ABQCOWBOY]

No deal will be done in my opinoin. 59.5 is still 60 rather then 56. Revenue sharing is not going to fly with 9 or 10 owners unless something else is given up by the small market guys. Why would smart owners handicap themselves in this way and then further compound the problem by agreeing to pay even more then what they initially had to. If the poor owners can't afford to leave the revenue sharing the way it is, then how are they going to be able to afford to pony up more money to account for the increase to 60%? They wont and it will eventually have to be off set by the teams who are making more money. At least, that's the story we'll get.

I don't see it.

[Murph80]

I don't see it either. The owners are very far apart.

[Ashwynn]

Who cares anymore. They need to start this ball rolling ASAP, or its gunna go flat from non use. I am about at my wits end with these millionaires and soon to be millionaires. Soon, I too wont care. Just like the owners and players dont care about us right now, by the time they get around to thinking of us again, some of us might not be here for them.

Fix the **** on your time, get on with FA already. If you cant fix it, trash it and lets start watching basketball, playoff are around the corner and Baseballs about to crank it up again. You nfl guys aren't replaceable. Ask hockey how many times I have stopped what I was doing to rush home to watch a game or even thought about buying a ticket to one. Short answer. NEVER. There history to me and the NFL is looking down that road today.

[ABQCOWBOY]

When the season rolls around, there will be football. Whatever happens, I think we will be in a good position to compete. NCAA Tournament play is here. Soon it will be March Madness. If you like Baseball, you got a world tournament going on and then MLB. April will be on us in no time and then the draft. Then the long wait for August and then Football Season again. I can deal with it. It's not like it's really impacting the fans because it's the off season. It will get worked out one way or the other and there will be Football again next fall. I'm fine with it.

[joseephuss]

When the season rolls around, there will be football. Whatever happens, I think we will be in a good position to compete. NCAA Tournament play is here. Soon it will be March Madness. If you like Baseball, you got a world tournament going on and then MLB. April will be on us in no time and then the draft. Then the long wait for August and then Football Season again. I can deal with it. It's not like it's really impacting the fans because it's the off season. It will get worked out one way or the other and there will be Football again next fall. I'm fine with it.

Yep. Worse case it that it takes a year or even more, but a deal will be reached. The 2006 and 2007 seasons may be a little strange with the cap ramifications, but the long term future will be secured for the league.