View Full Version : Skins latest restructuring moves... and pending releases
WoodysGirl
03-07-2006, 08:16 AM
Redskins | Team restructures Daniels' contract
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:39:58 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins have restructured the contract of DE Phillip Daniels (http://www.kffl.com/player/299/nfl). The deal is contingent on there not being a CBA extension.
Redskins | Team restructures Jansen's contract
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:39:40 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins have restructured the contract of OT Jon Jansen (http://www.kffl.com/player/1927/nfl). The deal is contingent on there not being a CBA extension.
Redskins | Team restructures Griffin's contract
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:34:55 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports the Washington Redskins have restructured the contract of DL Cornelius Griffin (http://www.kffl.com/player/1276/nfl). The deal is contingent on there not being a CBA extension.
Redskins | Gibbs informs Raymer of his pending release
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:34:16 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs (http://www.kffl.com/player/9143/nfl) has informed OC Cory Raymer (http://www.kffl.com/player/1616/nfl) he will be released, according to several of the team's players and their agents.
Redskins | Gibbs informs Harris of his pending release
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:33:27 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs (http://www.kffl.com/player/9143/nfl) has informed CB Walt Harris (http://www.kffl.com/player/825/nfl) he will be released, according to several of the team's players and their agents.
Redskins | Gibbs informs Noble of his pending release
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:32:53 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs (http://www.kffl.com/player/9143/nfl) has informed DT Brandon Noble (http://www.kffl.com/player/517/nfl) he will be released, according to several of the team's players and their agents.
burmafrd
03-07-2006, 08:18 AM
No suprises here. Raymer will hurt though.
Wheat
03-07-2006, 08:20 AM
Raymer will hurt?
Did he play last year? I think I might have seen him in a game once.
riggo
03-07-2006, 08:22 AM
No suprises here. Raymer will hurt though.
for petes sakes, no it wont. raymers bad knees and bad play was the reason the skins went out and signed casey rabach last year.
burmafrd
03-07-2006, 08:24 AM
Ok- I get Rabach and Raymer mixed up.
Yakuza Rich
03-07-2006, 08:26 AM
Raymer came in for the Seattle playoff game when Ray Brown got hurt and was horrific. I remember laughing at Skins fans that I was with complaining the "refs screwed them" in that game because they were missing holding calls on the Seattle O-Line, yet the refs continually missed some of the most blatant holds by Raymer in that game.
As my stats pointed out though, Rabach really isn't very good either. It's Jansen, Thomas, and Samuels that are so good that make the Skins O-Line productive.
Rich.....
Pokes28
03-07-2006, 08:29 AM
The only thing that will hurt in regards to the skins' cuts is depth. They really stayed extremely healthy last year. They lost two games from a starting OL, they did have some issues in the defensive backfield and of course David Patton was injured off and on throughout the season (not that he was any good when he was healthy). Other than that, they were amazingly healthy.
If they stay as healthy next season, none of these cuts will hurt at all. Of course with the entire team being another year older and the fight in division games getting more and more brutal now, staying that healthy is unlikely.
David Harrell - Pokes
dwh
1fisher
03-07-2006, 08:34 AM
for petes sakes, no it wont. raymers bad knees and bad play was the reason the skins went out and signed casey rabach last year.
don't get your feathers ruffled Riggo......we're allowed to speak our mind over here without getting banned!:D
riggo
03-07-2006, 08:36 AM
As my stats pointed out though, Rabach really isn't very good either. It's Jansen, Thomas, and Samuels that are so good that make the Skins O-Line productive.
Rich.....
rich-
can you link me to the stats? i'd be interested in seeing that. while rabach may not be as good as the others on the line, he was easily better than 43 year old brown or raymer. when thomas went down (vs philly, i believe) the O took a dive. the skins could do nothing without him. after seeing that, i think thomas may be our best O lineman.
Hostile
03-07-2006, 08:40 AM
Redskins | Gibbs informs Noble of his pending release
Mon, 6 Mar 2006 18:32:53 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins head coach Joe Gibbs (http://www.kffl.com/player/9143/nfl) has informed DT Brandon Noble (http://www.kffl.com/player/517/nfl) he will be released, according to several of the team's players and their agents.Goodbye Brandon Noble. For the long timers here you will always be remembered as "The Blocker Magnet."
Avery
03-07-2006, 08:41 AM
Raymer or Noble doesn't hurt much; both have been injury-plagued. Harris is a bit more of a loss since he's a competent CB though hardly awesome.
Sooner or later, you hate to lose too much depth, though. They'll backfill these guys but if a lot of second stringers get cut loose, it's an issue for any team.
riggo
03-07-2006, 08:44 AM
don't get your feathers ruffled Riggo......we're allowed to speak our mind over here without getting banned!:D
it's almost happened to me here. and i wasnt even gloating. ;)
Yeagermeister
03-07-2006, 08:50 AM
don't get your feathers ruffled Riggo......we're allowed to speak our mind over here without getting banned!:D
1 pt deduction for hitting below the belt :D
Wheat
03-07-2006, 09:11 AM
depth can be replaced with depth.
especially on Defense. Gregg Williams has done wonders with guys who this time last year, were called bums around here.
We need depth all over the Defense. But, that's what blue collar guys are for.
Galian Beast
03-07-2006, 09:20 AM
I really hope this means free agency is actually going to begin. The Redskins didn't even entertain the idea of releasing players up til now.
MrRedskin28
03-07-2006, 09:22 AM
depth can be replaced with depth.
especially on Defense. Gregg Williams has done wonders with guys who this time last year, were called bums around here.
We need depth all over the Defense. But, that's what blue collar guys are for.
Completely Agree.
Chocolate Lab
03-07-2006, 09:29 AM
Skins FA Rule Number One:
When we sign a guy, he's great, or a great bargain. When we have to release the same guy, he's an easily-replaced bum who didn't help us anyway.
Wheat
03-07-2006, 09:30 AM
Skins FA Rule Number One:
When we sign a guy, he's great, or a great bargain. When we have to release the same guy, he's an easily-replaced bum who didn't help us anyway.
Not true.
I liked Pierce and Smoot. Wanted them to stay last year. Same with Lavar this year.
If anything, I'm loyal to a fault.
Don't lump us all together.
SkinsandTerps
03-07-2006, 09:32 AM
I really hope this means free agency is actually going to begin. The Redskins didn't even entertain the idea of releasing players up til now.
All of these deals have been worked out a week ago. And the players that are going to be released have been known for a while now (or at least speculated by most even Adam).
Cowboys22
03-07-2006, 09:37 AM
Guess what guys. With no CBA those moves will not get the skins under the cap so more cuts will have to be made. These are the cuts that were going to happen either way. None are really big suprises to me.
clayman
03-07-2006, 09:38 AM
Skins FA Rule Number One:
When we sign a guy, he's great, or a great bargain. When we have to release the same guy, he's an easily-replaced bum who didn't help us anyway.
That statement pretty much addresses a large part of all teams fans.
superpunk
03-07-2006, 09:39 AM
Don't lump us all together.
Don't tell us what to do...:D
We'll lump you together if we damn well please, LOL.
Yakuza Rich
03-07-2006, 09:41 AM
depth can be replaced with depth.
especially on Defense. Gregg Williams has done wonders with guys who this time last year, were called bums around here.
Like Warrick Holdman? :cool:
Rich.......
RiggoForever
03-07-2006, 09:44 AM
Skins FA Rule Number One:
When we sign a guy, he's great, or a great bargain. When we have to release the same guy, he's an easily-replaced bum who didn't help us anyway.
Damn straight! :)
Bob Sacamano
03-07-2006, 09:44 AM
depth can be replaced with depth.
when you're forced to cut depth, you got problems, euphanisms and all won't alleviate anything, you're hurting
Yakuza Rich
03-07-2006, 09:50 AM
rich-
can you link me to the stats? i'd be interested in seeing that. while rabach may not be as good as the others on the line, he was easily better than 43 year old brown or raymer. when thomas went down (vs philly, i believe) the O took a dive. the skins could do nothing without him. after seeing that, i think thomas may be our best O lineman.
http://dallascowboyszone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48032&highlight=johnson
It's just mainly focused on Al Johnson. But it compiles stats such as sacks allowed, sack yards allowed, penalty yards allowed (Rabach had a ton of these) combined with the stats from footballoutsiders.com's adjusted line yardage stats on runs up the middle.
Essentially what I did was come up with a formula to figure out the yards gained (adjusted line yardage stats) and subtract the yards lost (penalty and sack yards)
The Skins weren't all that great at running up the middle and they chose to avoid running there....which was smart. But, based on my formula on runs up the middle alone......not counting sack yards or penalty yards.....Washington ranked 29th.
Combine that with the penalty yards and sack yards lost by Rabach, he winds up finishing 31st.
IIRC Jansen and Samuels were hovering around the top 5 statistically at their respective positions and Thomas was a top 3 right guard statistically.
If they could have gotten average play from Rabach and Dockery, they would have had a top 5 O-Line, easily last season.
Rich.......
aikemirv
03-07-2006, 09:52 AM
depth can be replaced with depth.
especially on Defense. Gregg Williams has done wonders with guys who this time last year, were called bums around here.
We need depth all over the Defense. But, that's what blue collar guys are for.
It can be replaced with depth if you have the salry cap room to do it. From what we have read they are making these releases to get down to the cap. They will still have no room to sign anyone else, once they make that room they will have to sign guys at the minimum to make it - thus you would have rookies or 1st and 2nd year guys who can't stick anywhere - that is not the kind of depth you want!
Yakuza Rich
03-07-2006, 09:53 AM
Skins FA Rule Number One:
When we sign a guy, he's great, or a great bargain. When we have to release the same guy, he's an easily-replaced bum who didn't help us anyway.
Very true, but the same could be said for Dallas fans or any fans for that matter.
Granted though, a lot of Skins fans threw Lavar under the bus and have done the same with several players to a more severe extent than I've seen Cowboys fans do with guys like Wiley, Ekuban (who has gone out of his way to act like an idiot afterwards), Gowin, and Glover.
Rich.......
riggo
03-07-2006, 09:58 AM
when you're forced to cut depth, you got problems, euphanisms and all won't alleviate anything, you're hurting
sure. but if the depth your cutting has proven to be bad, its hardly irreplaceable.
Bob Sacamano
03-07-2006, 10:01 AM
sure. but if the depth your cutting has proven to be bad, its hardly irreplaceable.
with your salary cap situation, you're not going to be improving the depth you replace much, the cap is forcing you to cut depth cuz you can't afford to pay for it
Wheat
03-07-2006, 10:01 AM
when you're forced to cut depth, you got problems, euphanisms and all won't alleviate anything, you're hurting
You're right. Almost as bad as loading up on a bunch of free agents who you expect to start in a new system, and gel right away.
There's a risk. Just not as much because usually its utility guys who are paid much less.
1fisher
03-07-2006, 10:02 AM
1 pt deduction for hitting below the belt :D
only 1 point..... geez.:D
Wheat
03-07-2006, 10:02 AM
with your salary cap situation, you're not going to be improving the depth you replace much, the cap is forcing you to cut depth cuz you can't afford to pay for it
You're cutting guys you'd like to keep. But, its the reality in the NFL.
I won't lie. I'd like to keep most of the backups around.
1fisher
03-07-2006, 10:04 AM
Don't tell us what to do...:D
We'll lump you together if we damn well please, LOL.
and Art is not here to protect you!!!!:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :laugh2: :laugh2: :lmao2: :lmao2: :laugh2: :laugh2:
Yeagermeister
03-07-2006, 10:12 AM
only 1 point..... geez.:D
Ok 2 pts...Andrew Golota :D
1fisher
03-07-2006, 11:33 AM
Ok 2 pts...Andrew Golota :D
.....ok, I'll take TWO!:laugh2:
peplaw06
03-07-2006, 03:11 PM
Guess what guys. With no CBA those moves will not get the skins under the cap so more cuts will have to be made. These are the cuts that were going to happen either way. None are really big suprises to me.
And with a CBA extension the restructures don't happen. Does anyone know what the restructures put their cap number at with no extension, or how much they're still over with an extension (which will depend I guess on what the cap is, but it's projected to go up 10 million right)?
TheSkaven
03-07-2006, 04:40 PM
And with a CBA extension the restructures don't happen. Does anyone know what the restructures put their cap number at with no extension, or how much they're still over with an extension (which will depend I guess on what the cap is, but it's projected to go up 10 million right)?I can't tell you for sure, but they're still over the cap by between $7M and $12M.
Remember, even after they get under the cap, they'll need room if they want to sign any FA or draft picks. I read a rumor on CBS Sportsline yesterday that Snyder was considering trading draft picks from this year into next year.
samsnead96
03-07-2006, 07:31 PM
The Redskins reportedly have two restructuring plans in place: one for without a new CBA and one for a new CBA.
So these restructurings we've been hearing about have been for the event that no new CBA is agreed to.
If a new agreement is reached, they'll go through with different restructurings that will undoubtedly give them a lot of space to pursue free agents.
But the Harris, Raymer, and Noble cuts were no surprise. The Washington Post reported they were going to be cut irregardless of what happens with the CBA situation.
Harris is the biggest name they will cut aside from Arrington (although Ramsey could be cut if nobody trades for him). Williams soured on him during the season much like he did Holdman.
But, again, their cap situation is not at all what has been reported because of the job they've been able to do in restructuring contracts.
Vinny Cerrato told their team web site that they had Redskins One, the team's airplane, ready to roll on Sunday night at 12:01 AM - and that was without a new CBA deal.
So even without a new deal, they're going to be out signing free agents. Maybe not big names, but they're going to be adding players.
The St. Louis Paper has already reported that the Redskins have been in contact with Isaac Bruce, whom Saunders coached in St. Louis.
That goes along with the Archuleta talk, which would make sense because of the uncertainty with Taylor's legal situation.
sacase
03-07-2006, 08:04 PM
Vinny Cerrato told their team web site that they had Redskins One, the team's airplane, ready to roll on Sunday night at 12:01 AM - and that was without a new CBA deal.
Yeah ready to take some people home. :chainsaw:
peplaw06
03-07-2006, 10:15 PM
The Redskins reportedly have two restructuring plans in place: one for without a new CBA and one for a new CBA.
So these restructurings we've been hearing about have been for the event that no new CBA is agreed to.
If a new agreement is reached, they'll go through with different restructurings that will undoubtedly give them a lot of space to pursue free agents.
I seriously doubt they're gonna have "a lot of space." At least not enough room to pursue quality free agents and sign any draft picks.
I for one say the Redskins should keep restructuring contracts of old veteran guys... It seems like they're afraid to cut anybody. Restructuring just backloads the money to the end of the contract. They're not taking pay cuts over the life of the contract. Just means you'll be in cap hell for the foreseeable future. Snyder would be afraid to bite the bullet and cut a guy like Glover, who doesn't make financial sense for the team to keep him on. He may have been a good player, just didn't make sense for us to keep him around.
RiggoForever
03-07-2006, 10:21 PM
I seriously doubt they're gonna have "a lot of space." At least not enough room to pursue quality free agents and sign any draft picks.
I for one say the Redskins should keep restructuring contracts of old veteran guys... It seems like they're afraid to cut anybody. Restructuring just backloads the money to the end of the contract. They're not taking pay cuts over the life of the contract. Just means you'll be in cap hell for the foreseeable future. Snyder would be afraid to bite the bullet and cut a guy like Glover, who doesn't make financial sense for the team to keep him on. He may have been a good player, just didn't make sense for us to keep him around.
If that was true we would have kept Lavar...we are taking a big hit on him this year to have more cap room in future years.
The Redskins aren't the same team they were when Snyder first got here. The mentality is completely different now.
Rams | Rams informs Noble of his pending signing
Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:32:53 -0800
Maz Ashanle, of the Santa Fe Quake, reports the Rams have informed DT Brandon Noble when he is released by the Redskins, that he will be signed by the Rams.
This according to according to several of the team's players and their agents in Hawaii.
:)
RiggoForever
03-07-2006, 10:52 PM
Rams | Rams informs Noble of his pending signing
Tue, 7 Mar 2006 18:32:53 -0800
Maz Ashanle, of the Santa Fe Quake, reports the Rams have informed DT Brandon Noble when he is released by the Redskins, that he will be signed by the Rams.
This according to according to several of the team's players and their agents in Hawaii.
:)
Your joking right? The guy nearly died and is 30 lbs lighter then his playing form
KINGBRICE_28
03-08-2006, 01:46 AM
I've never seen so many Skins on this board before.....
We're gonna need our own sub-forum soon:D....
I'm sure hh31 would love to play in there with us:laugh:
BrAinPaiNt
03-08-2006, 07:00 AM
Goodbye Brandon Noble. For the long timers here you will always be remembered as "The Blocker Magnet."
:laugh2: Memories.
samsnead96
03-08-2006, 07:02 AM
I seriously doubt they're gonna have "a lot of space." At least not enough room to pursue quality free agents and sign any draft picks.
I for one say the Redskins should keep restructuring contracts of old veteran guys... It seems like they're afraid to cut anybody. Restructuring just backloads the money to the end of the contract. They're not taking pay cuts over the life of the contract. Just means you'll be in cap hell for the foreseeable future. Snyder would be afraid to bite the bullet and cut a guy like Glover, who doesn't make financial sense for the team to keep him on. He may have been a good player, just didn't make sense for us to keep him around.
Uh, if a new agreement is reached they will.
The 30 percent rule and the rule of 51 are what are giving them problems, relatively speaking, right now.
Those won't be an issue if a new agreement is reached.
And they'll also have at least $10 million more in cap space.
So they'll get far enough under to pursue whoever it is they want. I don't anticipate them going after anyone major because I don't think Gibbs desires to, but they'll go after good players.
And as far as them not cutting anyone.....that's because it doesn't make sense to cut players you don't save money against the 2006 cap by cutting them.
Walt Harris is the guy they save the most money cutting and it's only $2 million in savings. Not much at all.
LaVar saved them $4 million by forfeiting that cash. Otherwise he would have been more expensive to cut than keep.
And that's what was basically the situation with their entire roster. It would have cost more to cut all of their major players than to keep them.
So that's why they're restructuring like hell.
And unless a new CBA agreement is reached that significantly limits "cash over cap" percentages, the Redskins will never enter cap hell. Because Snyder can buy his way out of cap hell. That's why they've never entered cap hell since he took over.
And they sure won't enter cap hell without a salary cap...and contrary to popular opinion, Snyder's probably feeling pretty good about restructuring contracts like a bastid, getting "enough" under the 2006 cap of $94.5 million, and entering 2007 without a cap.
WoodysGirl
03-08-2006, 07:44 AM
Redskins | Team will not cut Ramsey; still hope to trade him
Wed, 8 Mar 2006 05:27:03 -0800
David Elfin (http://www.kffl.com/link/177), of the Washington Times (http://www.kffl.com/link/144), reports the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) will not release QB Patrick Ramsey (http://www.kffl.com/player/1938/nfl). Instead they still hope to trade him in exchange for a second- or third-round draft pick. Other teams interested in Ramsey hope to surrender a lower-round draft pick for Ramsey.
Redskins | Tupa to be released
Wed, 8 Mar 2006 05:26:35 -0800
David Elfin (http://www.kffl.com/link/177), of the Washington Times (http://www.kffl.com/link/144), reports the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) will release P Tom Tupa (http://www.kffl.com/player/5865/nfl) for salary cap reasons.
Redskins | Bowen told he's being released
Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:36:35 -0800
The Washington Post reports Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) head coach Joe Gibbs (http://www.kffl.com/player/9143/nfl) contacted S Matt Bowen (http://www.kffl.com/player/772/nfl) last week to inform him the team intends to release him, according to Bowen's agent.
RiggoForever
03-08-2006, 08:07 AM
Redskins | Team will not cut Ramsey; still hope to trade him
Wed, 8 Mar 2006 05:27:03 -0800
David Elfin (http://www.kffl.com/link/177), of the Washington Times (http://www.kffl.com/link/144), reports the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) will not release QB Patrick Ramsey (http://www.kffl.com/player/1938/nfl). Instead they still hope to trade him in exchange for a second- or third-round draft pick. Other teams interested in Ramsey hope to surrender a lower-round draft pick for Ramsey.
Redskins | Tupa to be released
Wed, 8 Mar 2006 05:26:35 -0800
David Elfin (http://www.kffl.com/link/177), of the Washington Times (http://www.kffl.com/link/144), reports the Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) will release P Tom Tupa (http://www.kffl.com/player/5865/nfl) for salary cap reasons.
Redskins | Bowen told he's being released
Tue, 7 Mar 2006 20:36:35 -0800
The Washington Post reports Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) head coach Joe Gibbs (http://www.kffl.com/player/9143/nfl) contacted S Matt Bowen (http://www.kffl.com/player/772/nfl) last week to inform him the team intends to release him, according to Bowen's agent.
DAMN IT. Frost was **** last year...Tupa was injured but a Pro Bowl punter in 2004. We save less then 1 million by cutting him. This is stupid! Give the man a chance to compete in training camp at least!
superpunk
03-08-2006, 08:22 AM
DAMN IT. Frost was **** last year...Tupa was injured but a Pro Bowl punter in 2004. We save less then 1 million by cutting him. This is stupid! Give the man a chance to compete in training camp at least!
Wasn't Tandler's column yesterday something like "Any Way you look at it, the Skins Win?"
WoodysGirl
03-08-2006, 08:26 AM
DAMN IT. Frost was **** last year...Tupa was injured but a Pro Bowl punter in 2004. We save less then 1 million by cutting him. This is stupid! Give the man a chance to compete in training camp at least!You do realize you're on the wrong board for sympathy... :)
AsthmaField
03-08-2006, 08:29 AM
Wasn't Tandler's column yesterday something like "Any Way you look at it, the Skins Win?"
Yes it was. I actually think it's going to be more like a lose/not-lose situation instead of a win/win... but I don't know that for sure.
Avery
03-08-2006, 08:30 AM
The Skins are dreaming if they think they'll get a first day pick for Ramsey. A 4th perhaps, but no higher.
I still think he could do some things in this league, but he has not showcased his talent sufficiently in DC.
burmafrd
03-08-2006, 08:37 AM
i think ramsay can be a good QB- not pro bowl probably, but good- if he was somewhere else.
1fisher
03-08-2006, 09:19 AM
I've never seen so many Skins on this board before.....
We're gonna need our own sub-forum soon:D....
I'm sure hh31 would love to play in there with us:laugh:
yep.... there are way too many skins fans here.... probably has something to do with them getting banned on their own board!:laugh2:
WoodysGirl
03-08-2006, 10:46 AM
Redskins could cut seven
By David Elfin
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
March 8, 2006
Center Cory Raymer and aging cornerback Walt Harris will be among a group of five to seven players cut by the Washington Redskins tonight in an effort to get under the $94.5 million salary cap by the 9 p.m. deadline.
Defensive tackle Brandon Noble and punter Tom Tupa, who both missed all of last season with injuries, and safety Matt Bowen, like Raymer a starter in 2004 but an afterthought in 2005, also will be released.
All five have been told they will be waived even if NFL owners approve the deal on extending the collective bargaining agreement with the players association that commissioner Paul Tagliabue brought with him to their meeting in Grapevine, Texas.
Even though the Redskins reworked the contracts of at least a dozen high-priced players -- most of them contingent on the CBA extension being rejected -- they still could use some cap room to enable them to retain veterans and add free agents and draft picks.
So kicker John Hall, who missed 14 of the past 29 games with a succession of pulled leg muscles, and reserve receiver Taylor Jacobs, a major bust who caught just 30 passes in three years after being taken in the second round of the 2003 draft, also might be cut.
Waiving Raymer ($985,000), Bowen ($2 million), Harris ($2 million), Noble ($1.7 million) and Tupa ($770,000 or $661,000 depending on whether the CBA is extended) would save the Redskins more than $7 million. Hall ($1.5 million or $1.035 million) and Jacobs ($460,000 or $176,000) would clear additional cap room.
Quarterback Patrick Ramsey, who started 25 of 40 games from October 2002 through the 2005 opener, will not be cut. Washington hopes to trade Ramsey, who has one year left on his contract, for a second- or third-round draft pick. Chicago, Miami, Oakland and the New York Jets are believed to be interested in Ramsey but hope to acquire him for a lower-round selection.
While only two starters, strong safety Ryan Clark and tight end Robert Royal, are set to be unrestricted free agents, the Redskins would have little experienced depth under contract if they cut the seven aforementioned players. They would have only two linebackers (Marcus Washington and Lemar Marshall) who have played a snap on defense, two safeties (Sean Taylor and Pierson Prioleau) and one backup offensive lineman (Jim Molinaro).
Link (http://www.washtimes.com/sports/20060307-115802-2563r.htm)
superpunk
03-08-2006, 10:52 AM
So, WG.....does that mean the Skins win?:D
WoodysGirl
03-08-2006, 10:58 AM
So, WG.....does that mean the Skins win?:DThey'll still be able to field a decent team next year.....
for the first 6-8 games... After that the starters will get worn down, the inexperience and NFLE talent will be displayed, and all will be right w/my world... :D
david_jackson
03-08-2006, 11:01 AM
I hope a new player agreementis reached.....It is good for the league long term and it keeps the Skins under cap pressure indefinately. If one isn't reached then the Skins will have one year of Major difficulties (5-11 season) then imerge the following year without any future difficulties and a boat load of cash to rebuild the deapth of the team. I don't think Snyder has the will to purge on his own or discipline to do it slowly correct his cap over time.
Wheat
03-08-2006, 11:06 AM
I keep getting confused on why people think Snyder isn't just signing off on what Gibbs wants.
Joe Gibbs is deciding what players he wants, and who's shipped out. In DC, Snyder has been off the radar for two seasons now. Somehow people think he's even close to as hands on as he was back before the 04 season.
If we have a 5-11 season, so be it. But, we were predicted to finish last in the division this past season, while Dallas was picked for the playoffs.
10-6 with a playoff win should be a clear sign that Gibbs is in charge on and off the field. Especially with the addition of Al Saunders. He can focus more on Front Office stuff.
Hate him all you want, but the guy got this group the 2nd round in his 2nd season after 12 years off. He's earned alittle respect because of that.
Dallas
03-08-2006, 12:03 PM
it's almost happened to me here. and i wasnt even gloating. ;)
Agreed - You skins fans really need to recognize just what board your CHOOSING to be part of.
Its a free state here at the Zone. Nothing like that Gulag you have over at ES. :cool:
Yakuza Rich
03-08-2006, 12:12 PM
If we have a 5-11 season, so be it. But, we were predicted to finish last in the division this past season, while Dallas was picked for the playoffs.
Very few writers picked Dallas to go to the playoffs.
Hell, most of them were saying Parcells was going to retire by now.
I do believe that some writers have a vendetta against the Skins because they don't like Snyder, especially Pasquarelli.
However, if you think writers have a favorable bias for the Cowboys.....guess again.
Rich.........
1fisher
03-08-2006, 01:20 PM
I keep getting confused on why people think Snyder isn't just signing off on what Gibbs wants.
Joe Gibbs is deciding what players he wants, and who's shipped out. In DC, Snyder has been off the radar for two seasons now. Somehow people think he's even close to as hands on as he was back before the 04 season.
If we have a 5-11 season, so be it. But, we were predicted to finish last in the division this past season, while Dallas was picked for the playoffs.
10-6 with a playoff win should be a clear sign that Gibbs is in charge on and off the field. Especially with the addition of Al Saunders. He can focus more on Front Office stuff.
Hate him all you want, but the guy got this group the 2nd round in his 2nd season after 12 years off. He's earned alittle respect because of that.
blah....blah...blah.....:D
you're barking up the wrong tree...
peplaw06
03-08-2006, 05:34 PM
If that was true we would have kept Lavar...we are taking a big hit on him this year to have more cap room in future years.
The Redskins aren't the same team they were when Snyder first got here. The mentality is completely different now.
Puhlease... everyone knew you were gonna cut Lavar since you benched him this season. You can't compare him to Glover... Glover was a team player, and it hurt our team to have to cut him.
Typhus
03-08-2006, 07:23 PM
Washington will cut five to seven players tonight to get under the salary cap, according to the Washington Times.
— It’s not clear that the Eagles or Giants are interested in him, but LaVar Arrington is interested in becoming an Eagle or a Giant.
Kevin Mawae will visit Miami today. The Eagles also have confirmed interest, though they continue to be linked with LeCharles Bentley.
One theory is that Bentley could get increased interest if a new CBA is agreed to and the salary cap jumps $10 million or so.
Mawae maintains that he is the best center on the market, Bentley notwithstanding.
He is available now, as LaRoi Glover was when the Rams signed him. Mawae will wait, however, until free agency begins, in order to maximize his value.
— The Eagles are also interested in QB Jeff Garcia and RB Mike Anderson, recently cut by Denver.
— Deja vu: If this story is true the Cowboys could have free agent competition from Miami.
The Miami Herald claims the Dolphins will pursue, among others, LB Willie McGinest, OT Tom Ashworth and OT L.J. Shelton.
Shelton could be the Anthony Henry of 2006, a good but less heralded player than a Jon Runyan.
There has been a virtual news blackout from Valley Ranch this week on anything personnel related.
Jerry Jones has mentioned the team has been ready to tackle free agency “for a week,” but beyond that, silence.
I went back into the Blog archives and found a similar pattern of silence of subterfuge. Last season the Cowboys top two needs were cornerback and offensive tackle. Rumors were hot that Dallas might switch to a 3-4 defense, if they could find a nose tackle. The Cowboys were linked to WRs Laveranues Coles and Randy Moss.
In the days leading up to the start of free agency rumors had Dallas pursuing CBs Fred Smoot and Ken Lucas. The Cowboys filled the obvious hole, but surprised by claiming Browns CB Anthony Henry an afterthought on most free agent boards, including mine.
After a couple of weeks of will they or won’t them, the Cowboys leapt out of the starting blocks and snagged Jason Ferguson from the Jets.
Another surprise came on the offensive line. Dallas was seen as a landing spot for former Jets RT Kareem McKenzie who eventually moved to the Giants. I wrote many pieces on Packers OG Mike Wahle who I had projected as a right tackle. Dallas signed his linemate Marco Rivera and kept him at right guard.
Now, flash back to the present. Dallas again has obvious needs at right tackle, kicker, outside linebacker and free safety. Again, they’re being linked to a big risk/big potential reward WR, only this time, the name is Owens and not Moss.
Every veteran free agent tackle of note is being signed for the Cowboys. Jones suggested he would not pay top dollar, which would seemingly rule out Eagles RT Jon Runyan, but how can we tell?
At kicker, Jones again downplayed spending top dollar, but with Adam Vinatieri at the top of all kickers lists, how can we be sure he’s not sandbagging?
And who, if anybody, will be this year’s Henry, the player of quality so far overlooked?
Finally, which of the many former Parcells players will be tapped? Vinatieri, Jason Fabini, Jerald Sowell, Kevin Mawae and Willie McGinest are candidates to follow Ferguson, Keyshawn Johnson, Terry Glenn, Drew Bledsoe, Richie Anderson, Vinnie Testaverde and Ryan Young to Dallas.
The suspense may be getting out of hand, but if last year is any indication, the wait will be worth it.
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