Update on Randle El Contract.

[Catch-22]

Redskins | More about Randle El contract
Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:41:35 -0800
ESPN.com (http://www.kffl.com/link/9)'s Michael Smith reports Washington Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) WR Antwaan Randle El (http://www.kffl.com/player/1549/nfl)'s contract with the Redskins (http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl) is actually a seven-year, $31 million deal that is voidable after the sixth year. It also included $11.5 million in bonuses.


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:lmao::lmao::lmao:

[CanadianCowboysFan]

That's a lot for a second receiver and kick returner.

[Cajuncowboy]

Does that mean they are stuck with that contract for 6 years? Holy crap they are nuts. No wonder they are the redskins.

[demdcowboys#1]

Thats ridiculous, THAT MUCH for a guy that only had 1 receiving TD last year and only 550+ yds. They basically just signed a KR/PR to a 7 year 31 million dollar deal including that huge signing bonus. That is ridiculous.!!!!!!!!!!!

[demdcowboys#1]

That's a lot for a second receiver and kick returner.


Brandon Lloyd is their new #2 WR. Randel El is a #3 in WSH now, also will serve as KR/PR!!!!!!!!

[kingwhicker]

That's a lot for a second receiver and kick returner.

3rd receiver- he won't beat Lloyd for 2nd EVER unless Lloyd goes nuts and punches the Crypt Keeper.

[CowboysNumeroUno]

All I can say is wow.....What does Lloyd's contract look like? Anyone know?

[kingwhicker]

Brandon Lloyd is their new #2 WR. Randel El is a #3 in WSH now, also will serve as KR/PR!!!!!!!!

Yep, Pitt wasn't too happy with Randle El when he filled in as #2 for Burress in 04 or for the entire year last year, basically Quincy Morgan and Cedric Wilson were coming up with bigger plays and Wilson really became the true #2 option.

[Way 'nuff]

Love how you guys are so concerned with what we're doing

[montgod]

That's a lot for a second receiver and kick returner.


Actually, it isn't a surprise to me because of two reasons.... 1. It's the Redskins and 2. They have done this before....anybody remember Chad Morton?

[lkelly]

As with most of the Skins' free agent signings, don't expect the player to last more than three years there. They will build in some renegotiation and bonuses down the line, then ditch the player once he's owed the big bucks.

It's really a renters' paradise in Washington. Not knocking them, it is just how they've chosen to do business. They don't build through the draft. Considering how awful they drafted in the past decade*, maybe that's a wise move.

*Dallas drafted like *** for about a decade too.

[Brave]

That is a lot for a #3 WR, but that's where their needs were.

Moss, Lloyd, Randle-El and Cooley make a formidable WR corp.

It will be interesting to see who throws the ball to them.

[CrazyCowboy]

Wow.....looks like he pulled a Larry Brown....turning in a great SB performance for a big payday on another team.

[Joe a Cowboys fan]

WRs in the draft are looking like a much better idea for us. It amazes me that Dan keeps spending and never gets caught by the cap. When JJ finally bit the bullet and we had the ugly aughts I thought great, we finally have clean cap that will not bite us in the years to come. But Dan just keeps high flying and it seems never has to pay the piper.

[kingwhicker]

Love how you guys are so concerned with what we're doing

What a dip. Who's on whose board? Further evidence of MIFBIS.

[Brave]

Dan avoids "captastrophe" because the cap keeps growing at such a fast rate. What was it, 75 mil just a few years ago?

People who predict cap troubles often neglect to factor in these increases. They think 3 or 4 years out at whatever the cap is at that time. By then it usually goes up.

That's saved Dan a couple of times.

[AbeBeta]

Does that mean they are stuck with that contract for 6 years? Holy crap they are nuts. No wonder they are the redskins.

voidable by him. all contracts are voidable by the team.

[burmafrd]

They would have been toast without the new CBA. Danny Boy keeps gambling and sooner or later you throw snake eyes. It will happen- just never know when.

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Love how you guys are so concerned with what we're doing

We're not concerned. We just think it's hilarious that Danny boy with throw money at anything with a heartbeat.

[Way 'nuff]

They would have been toast without the new CBA. Danny Boy keeps gambling and sooner or later you throw snake eyes. It will happen- just never know when.

Love how every time I come here I see frustrated Cowboy fans wondering how Dan gets away with it.

Sorry Jerry isn't on top of his game anymore.

[Cajuncowboy]

Love how every time I come here I see frustrated Cowboy fans wondering how Dan gets away with it.

Sorry Jerry isn't on top of his game anymore.

One word.

Cheating.

[kingwhicker]

Love how every time I come here I see frustrated Cowboy fans wondering how Dan gets away with it.

Sorry Jerry isn't on top of his game anymore.

Yep, Dan gets away with it all the time- All those championship trophies, division titles, rings, and, uh, oh, oooops.

[RedskinsFanInTX]

That's a lot for a second receiver and kick returner.How much is TO gonna get in Dallas?:eek:

[Monte51Coleman]

Yikes! Looks like we're headed for cap hell. Again. ;)

[ThreeSportStar80]

Listen up Deadskin fans don't get too carried away remember YOU CAN get banned from this site. ;)

[Monte51Coleman]

Listen up Deadskin fans don't get too carried away remember YOU CAN get banned from this site. ;)

A...huh, a...huh.....deadskins....good one....you come up with that all by yourself? :)

[KINGBRICE_28]

Listen up Deadskin fans don't get too carried away remember YOU CAN get banned from this site. ;)


I own this site and I am going to ban you if you don't be quiet.;)

[RedskinsFanInTX]

I own this site and I am going to ban you if you don't be quiet.;)http://www.smileyworld.com/dictionary/images/smileys/Nations/native_american.gif

[Big Dakota]

I own this site and I am going to ban you if you don't be quiet.;)

Come over to the Cowboys-Forum, you'll be banned so fast it will make your racistskins head spin. ;)

OBTW, next time your coach talks about Cowboys fans, tell him to have the BALLS to stand by it, instead of runnning like the LITTLE BEATCH he is.
:laugh2:

[Way 'nuff]

One word.

Cheating.


Were you the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll?

Any other conspiracy theories you'd like to share?

[Q_the_man]

they might of overpaid for him, but I bet he comes through in about 5 games this year with something big

[GTaylor]

Come over to the Cowboys-Forum, you'll be banned so fast it will make your racistskins head spin. ;)

Is Art the mod at Cowboys-Forum?

[thewivil]

As long as the Redskins aren't signing players we need, I have no problem with them signing whoever they please. Especially when they are throwing insane amounts of money at unproven talent.

[SultanOfSix]

Were you the 2nd gunman on the grassy knoll?

Any other conspiracy theories you'd like to share?

I wouldn't be surprised if cheating happens in the NFL in some form another. It happened in '94 with the 49ers.

[ArmchairRedskin]

Come over to the Cowboys-Forum, you'll be banned so fast it will make your racistskins head spin. ;)

:


I got banned without ever even posting on there. Kinda crappy if you ask me.

[Chuck 54]

When will you guys ever learn to stop overreacting to contract talk....look at Arrington and how they came out smelling like a rose when they wanted to dump him.

IN today's NFL, all that really matters is who lines up for you on the field this year...everything changes, including fat contracts, on a year to year basis.

[Way 'nuff]

I wouldn't be surprised if cheating happens in the NFL in some form another. It happened in '94 with the 49ers.

'94, if I remember correctly the 49ers beat the Cowboys in the NFC championship game.

Funny how it seems like everyone else is cheating when the Cowboys aren't winning.

[Dallas]

'94, if I remember correctly the 49ers beat the Cowboys in the NFC championship game.

Funny how it seems like everyone else is cheating when the Cowboys aren't winning.

This is just going to become a flame thread. Can the mods send some warnings to the Skin trolls that have seemed to flock to the Zone lately? If they dont accept the warning then just deny the ip/account and get it over with.

Most skins fans come here and actually have legitimate input and opinion. These however are just stirrin.

Get rid ofem HoS.

[SultanOfSix]

'94, if I remember correctly the 49ers beat the Cowboys in the NFC championship game.

Funny how it seems like everyone else is cheating when the Cowboys aren't winning.

Umm. Go back and read history. They VIOLATED the salary cap and got away with it. It is a known fact.

If you want to rewrite history, go back to extremskins. Keep living in a fantasy world that the sports world is entirely clean when billions upon billions of dollars is involved in gambling surrounding it.

[Way 'nuff]

Umm. Go back and read history. They VIOLATED the salary cap and got away with it. It is a known fact.

If you want to rewrite history, go back to extremskins. Keep living in a fantasy world that the sports world is entirely clean when billions upon billions of dollars is involved in gambling surrounding it.

I'll believe you if you can show me where the 49ers violated the cap.

[SultanOfSix]

I'll believe you if you can show me where the 49ers violated the cap.

I really don't care if you believe me or not. Do your own research for once. I'm not your babysitter.

[xpistofer]

Love how you guys are so concerned with what we're doing

love your sig...that's hilarious.
(wouldn't be funny if it wasn't partially true...)

kudos to your team's significant upgrades this FA...
At the moment I think you are a bit further down the road than we are.

[Way 'nuff]

I really don't care if you believe me or not. Do your own research for once. I'm not your babysitter.

Ah. You sure acted like it until I called you on your conspiracy theory.

[big dog cowboy]

I'll believe you if you can show me where the 49ers violated the cap.
Please.

I suppose that if I tell you the world isn't flat you will make me prove that also.

[Way 'nuff]

Please.

I suppose that if I tell you the world isn't flat you will make me prove that also.


Still waiting.

Look, I'll gladly eat crow and fess up to being wrong if someone would just step up with a reliable source. I don't have a problem with agreeing with Cowboys fans.

[Basileus777]

Salary Cap cheating does occur, the Broncos did it during their superbowl run. They even had draft picks stripped away from them.

[kingwhicker]

Jeevus, Way'Nuff makes NedK tolerable.

[Bluefin]

I'll believe you if you can show me where the 49ers violated the cap.

NFL Fines Former 49ers Executive $400,00 for Salary Cap Violations

Lenient penalty results in criticism by owners


New York, December 7, 2000 - Giants co-owner, Wellington Mara, spoke out in anger over the settlement that the NFL reached with former 49ers executives Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark over their alleged violation of the salary cap in 1997. Under the terms of the deal, Policy was fined $400,000 and Clark was fined $200,000. The 49ers will also have to pay a $300,000 fine and give up a 5th round draft choice in 2001 and a 3rd round choice in 2002.

Mara apparently became upset after Policy refused to admit any wrongdoing in the matter. Mara has since accused Policy of lying to the NFL Management Council Executive Committee about the allegations. Mara issued a statement in which he said, "of all those present, not one believed what [Policy] said." Mara added that the group then agreed that Policy "should give a deposition under oath as soon as possible," but Policy "declined to be sworn in and instead began negotiating the settlement,." according to Long Island Newsday.

Others weighed in on the situation in varying degrees of agreement with Mara and also thought the settlement let the 49ers off too easy. New Orleans Saints' Owner Tom Benson, on the settlement: "It's good that we're going to get a lot stricter on this stuff, but I wish we'd had a policy in place that would have made this ruling stiffer ... But the new agreement [giving the commissioner broad powers] should be a deterrent. At least I hope it is." Another NFL team owner was quoted as saying, "I think they (Policy and Clark) got away with murder."

National Football League Players' Association Executive Director Gene Upshaw said, "I don't think (the 49ers) got off light . . . The other owners around the league will make a lot of noise, but they've got to look at what was there. They might have wanted more authority from the commissioner, but it wasn't there,"

In comparison with the NBA's recent actions against the Minnesota Timberwolves, the NFL action is quite light and, in a typical settlement-type agreement, stipulated that neither Policy or Clark admit to any wrongdoing.

In addition to the penalties levied against the 49ers and their former executives, agents Leigh Steinberg, Jeff Moorad and Gary Wichard, who represented quarterback Jim Druckenmiller, linebacker Woodall, quarterback Steve Young and tight end Brent Jones, received "substantial" fines. It was reported that Steinberg, who represented Young and Jones, will pay a fine of $250,000, while Wichard, who represented Druckenmiller, will pay $100,000. The money is "going to league and union designated charities."

Nate Allen

[SultanOfSix]

Not only are some 'Skins fans dumb, they're foolish. I'll cherish your request because I hate ignorance in general:

http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/Articles%202000/Policysalarycappenalty.htm

That's just one article I found after searching on google for like 5 seconds. Do you need help reading that as well? I can send an audio tape.

[Way 'nuff]

Jeevus, Way'Nuff makes NedK tolerable.

What, because I want people to back up their claims?

Bluefin, thanks for the article, I stand corrected.

[1fisher]

Love how you guys are so concerned with what we're doing

............and we love how you are here lurking on our board! go on back to ES....:laugh2:

[big dog cowboy]

NFL Fines Former 49ers Executive $400,00 for Salary Cap Violations

Lenient penalty results in criticism by owners


New York, December 7, 2000 - Giants co-owner, Wellington Mara, spoke out in anger over the settlement that the NFL reached with former 49ers executives Carmen Policy and Dwight Clark over their alleged violation of the salary cap in 1997. Under the terms of the deal, Policy was fined $400,000 and Clark was fined $200,000. The 49ers will also have to pay a $300,000 fine and give up a 5th round draft choice in 2001 and a 3rd round choice in 2002.

Mara apparently became upset after Policy refused to admit any wrongdoing in the matter. Mara has since accused Policy of lying to the NFL Management Council Executive Committee about the allegations. Mara issued a statement in which he said, "of all those present, not one believed what [Policy] said." Mara added that the group then agreed that Policy "should give a deposition under oath as soon as possible," but Policy "declined to be sworn in and instead began negotiating the settlement,." according to Long Island Newsday.

Others weighed in on the situation in varying degrees of agreement with Mara and also thought the settlement let the 49ers off too easy. New Orleans Saints' Owner Tom Benson, on the settlement: "It's good that we're going to get a lot stricter on this stuff, but I wish we'd had a policy in place that would have made this ruling stiffer ... But the new agreement [giving the commissioner broad powers] should be a deterrent. At least I hope it is." Another NFL team owner was quoted as saying, "I think they (Policy and Clark) got away with murder."

National Football League Players' Association Executive Director Gene Upshaw said, "I don't think (the 49ers) got off light . . . The other owners around the league will make a lot of noise, but they've got to look at what was there. They might have wanted more authority from the commissioner, but it wasn't there,"

In comparison with the NBA's recent actions against the Minnesota Timberwolves, the NFL action is quite light and, in a typical settlement-type agreement, stipulated that neither Policy or Clark admit to any wrongdoing.

In addition to the penalties levied against the 49ers and their former executives, agents Leigh Steinberg, Jeff Moorad and Gary Wichard, who represented quarterback Jim Druckenmiller, linebacker Woodall, quarterback Steve Young and tight end Brent Jones, received "substantial" fines. It was reported that Steinberg, who represented Young and Jones, will pay a fine of $250,000, while Wichard, who represented Druckenmiller, will pay $100,000. The money is "going to league and union designated charities."

Nate Allen
That needs a bump.

[btcutter]

Love how every time I come here I see frustrated Cowboy fans wondering how Dan gets away with it.

Sorry Jerry isn't on top of his game anymore.


When was the last time the Skin heads were in any championship game?
I don't see getting Deion, Bruce Smith and all the high price FA did for the team?

BTW, FA is it for the Skins.....they practically can sit out the draft this yr.

[vicjagger]

Yep, Pitt wasn't too happy with Randle El when he filled in as #2 for Burress in 04 or for the entire year last year, basically Quincy Morgan and Cedric Wilson were coming up with bigger plays and Wilson really became the true #2 option.

You are full of Shinola.

I live in western PA and have watched this guy for years. Pittsburgh loved him. They are very dissapointed to loose him, and for the next 6 years, Cowboys fans will be equally dissapointed that he's now a Redskin.

[JohnnY]

Actually, it isn't a surprise to me because of two reasons.... 1. It's the Redskins and 2. They have done this before....anybody remember Chad Morton?

How about Santana Moss? Basically the same situation a year ago my friends. And btw, do not confuse the Chad Morton thing with this. This is under the 2nd Gibbs era, there is a huge difference, HUGE!

[Bob Sacamano]

I stand corrected.

what's with skinfans and being corrected everytime? I mean, EVERY time :lmao2:

it's like shooting fish in the barrel with you guys, it's too easy

[Bob Sacamano]

Sorry Jerry isn't on top of his game anymore.

uh, look at our cap situation, Jerry has gone from a terribly run cap situation, to a very good one, while Danny BOy still has to constantly adjust his cap

btw, we paid alot of money to much better players last year, we spent 30 mil in bonus money, something Danny Boy will never be able to do for awhile...

[aznhalf]

How about Santana Moss? Basically the same situation a year ago my friends. And btw, do not confuse the Chad Morton thing with this. This is under the 2nd Gibbs era, there is a huge difference, HUGE!

You know, just because you say theres a huge difference doesn't mean there is. Where is your objective proof?

And next person who says "Gibbs brings such a team atmosphere" and then alludes to those players willing to restructure needs to get banned. MILLIONS of dollars are at stake, the NFL is a business. Anyone with a tertiary job would know that when it comes down to that amount money you're looking out for yourself first. You put too much stock in humanity if you think otherwise, period. Players restructure because they get more guranteed money upfront. There is very little downside for them to restructure, and contrary to some peoples beliefs these players are not putting money on the back of their contract to help the team. They get the same amount and they get it sooner.

[Way 'nuff]

When was the last time the Skin heads were in any championship game?
I don't see getting Deion, Bruce Smith and all the high price FA did for the team?

BTW, FA is it for the Skins.....they practically can sit out the draft this yr.

Come on man. Don't you have any better material than players we signed 6 years ago?