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Cowboy4ever

03-12-2006, 08:37 PM

I advacated signing drew brees at 12:02 .. I was wrong. He wants 10 mil per year,, noway I do that. The saints are considering it. thats a lot of bread for someone coming off shoulder surgery.

Way 'nuff

03-12-2006, 08:41 PM

I advacated signing drew brees at 12:02 .. I was wrong. He wants 10 mil per year,, noway I do that. The saints are considering it. thats a lot of bread for someone coming off shoulder surgery.

As a skins fan, I'd fear you having Brees more than Bledsoe. While he still has an arm, he's past his prime.

Brees doesn't have the arm, but he's proven that with good weapons, he can get it done.

Galian Beast

03-12-2006, 08:50 PM

Drew Brees' qb ratings against good defenses last year...

Dallas - 65.1
Denver - 70
Pittsburgh 73.4
Philadelphia - 77
Washington 35.7
Indianapolis 74.7
Kansas City (they suck but this is the second game) 65.3
Denver 69.9

His 80+ games were against
New York Giants (week 3)
New England (week 4)
Oakland
Kansas City
New York Jets
Buffalo
Oakland
Miami

Of which he was above 90 7 times. Above 100 6 times.

WoodysGirl

03-12-2006, 09:02 PM

Sun, 12 Mar 2006 18:22:37 -0800

John Clayton (http://www.kffl.com/link/125), of ESPN.com (http://www.kffl.com/link/9), reports free agent QB Drew Brees (http://www.kffl.com/player/1650/nfl) (Chargers) reportedly is seeking a contract that will pay him $10 million per year and he is firm in those demands. The New Orleans Saints (http://www.kffl.com/team/25/nfl) are the closest to meeting Brees' demands. The Miami Dolphins (http://www.kffl.com/team/22/nfl) aren't offering as much in guarantees as New Orleans, and they seem to have dug in on not doing that with Brees coming off shoulder surgery.

DBoys

03-12-2006, 09:05 PM

Any team that pays him 10 mil a year is stupid.

HardHittin'Witten

03-12-2006, 09:09 PM

Any team that pays him 10 mil a year is stupid.

especially with his shoulder injury. ask Chad Pennington how those turn out.

dstew60105

03-12-2006, 10:07 PM

BigDFan5

03-12-2006, 10:09 PM

As a skins fan, I'd fear you having Brees more than Bledsoe. While he still has an arm, he's past his prime.

Brees doesn't have the arm, but he's proven that with good weapons, he can get it done.

wait aren't you guys hoping Brunell takes you to the promised land? lmfao

BigDFan5

03-12-2006, 10:10 PM

especially with his shoulder injury. ask Chad Pennington how those turn out.

Penningtons surgery was totally different. Brees had a scope to fix tore cartilage

HardHittin'Witten

03-12-2006, 10:14 PM

Penningtons surgery was totally different. Brees had a scope to fix tore cartilage

ok, I didn't know that. I heard that it was worse than that. Heck, my wife got her knee scoped a couple of weeks ago and she's fine.

BigDFan5

03-12-2006, 10:19 PM

ok, I didn't know that. I heard that it was worse than that. Heck, my wife got her knee scoped a couple of weeks ago and she's fine.

Its a little worse than a knee scope, and he actually tore the cartilage but it a scope job and his doctor James Andrews is the top Doctor in the country with sports inuries and the Doc says he is ahead of schedule and will be fine.

visionary

03-12-2006, 10:33 PM

if brees lands in NO, they will trade with us for Romo given the uncertainity with Brees being ready for TC, learning a new system, and you always need a back-up who can start in a pinch. If they take Brees they trade down to take D'Brick or AJ Hawk and then give us their extra second or third round pick (if we want it that is). of course if we truly believe that Romo is the future of the franchise we would not do this deal. but with DB being here for at least 2 more years and this being Romo's last year I think it may be a win win for both sides.

bayarealightning

03-13-2006, 01:41 AM

Its a little worse than a knee scope, and he actually tore the cartilage but it a scope job and his doctor James Andrews is the top Doctor in the country with sports inuries and the Doc says he is ahead of schedule and will be fine.
Not exactly. He tore his labrum and it was disclosed much later that he had a partial tear of his rotator cuff.

dallasgirl12

03-13-2006, 02:10 AM

Say Brees does in fact sign with the Saints, especially after the urging and counsel of Parcells... I can't shake the feeling that Jones and Parcells have something up their sleeves with the Saints come draft day. I am curious to hear others opinions on a possible trade with the Saints on the first day of the draft.

BulletBob

03-13-2006, 06:23 AM

ok, I didn't know that. I heard that it was worse than that. Heck, my wife got her knee scoped a couple of weeks ago and she's fine.

What kind of signing bonus is she looking for?

Nors

03-13-2006, 06:40 AM

As a skins fan, I'd fear you having Brees more than Bledsoe. While he still has an arm, he's past his prime.

Brees doesn't have the arm, but he's proven that with good weapons, he can get it done.

Bledsoe is how much younger than Brunnel?:rolleyes:

Brees in Dallas at $10m and no Ladainlin and our Line?
Bledsoe is to be feared once we shore up Line. anD AT $3M in salary - baragin QB.

Letemburn

03-13-2006, 06:53 AM

Wont happen.

Nors

03-13-2006, 06:57 AM

joseephuss

03-13-2006, 07:02 AM

Just read it again here today, Romo/Brees to Saints. Why is that a constant theme? Why not Henson to Saints? If Payton is such a QB guru - why doesn't he want to get the Henson from us?:o:

Why is he shying away from drafting another high profile Pedigree QB project ala Henson? And bringing in a slightly above average Vet at a $10M A year cost?

These moves of Brees, Romo to Saints will drastically alter round 1 draft and signal Dallas is ready to sign a Vet backup and that they are sold Henson is ready NOW.- Maybe the Tampa workouts have shown that Henson is ready NOW and Romo is expendable now. We can also draft a QB day 2 in draft.

This also shows why it would have been wise to extend Bledsoe's deal 2 weeks ago. Bree's signing radically changes QB market forever.

What? This does not impact Dallas and Bledsoe. There is no reason to extend Bledsoe's contract right now.

dbair1967

03-13-2006, 07:04 AM

CrazyCowboy

03-13-2006, 07:06 AM

Just read it again here today, Romo/Brees to Saints. Why is that a constant theme? Why not Henson to Saints? If Payton is such a QB guru - why doesn't he want to get the Henson from us?:o:

Why is he shying away from drafting another high profile Pedigree QB project ala Henson? And bringing in a slightly above average Vet at a $10M A year cost?

These moves of Brees, Romo to Saints will drastically alter round 1 draft and signal Dallas is ready to sign a Vet backup and that they are sold Henson is ready NOW.- Maybe the Tampa workouts have shown that Henson is ready NOW and Romo is expendable now. We can also draft a QB day 2 in draft.

This also shows why it would have been wise to extend Bledsoe's deal 2 weeks ago. Bree's signing radically changes QB market forever.

Where did you read this from? I hope you are correct about Henson!

iceberg

03-13-2006, 07:10 AM

Just read it again here today, Romo/Brees to Saints. Why is that a constant theme? Why not Henson to Saints? If Payton is such a QB guru - why doesn't he want to get the Henson from us?:o:

Why is he shying away from drafting another high profile Pedigree QB project ala Henson? And bringing in a slightly above average Vet at a $10M A year cost?

These moves of Brees, Romo to Saints will drastically alter round 1 draft and signal Dallas is ready to sign a Vet backup and that they are sold Henson is ready NOW.- Maybe the Tampa workouts have shown that Henson is ready NOW and Romo is expendable now. We can also draft a QB day 2 in draft.

This also shows why it would have been wise to extend Bledsoe's deal 2 weeks ago. Bree's signing radically changes QB market forever.

i really wish you'd quit posting *INTENTIONALLY MISLEADING* headlines and then following up with speculation NO ONE has ever heard of before THEN of course get your drew-love in.

WHERE has ANYONE FOR SURE said romo to the saints?

provide a link or please quit posting the lies dude.

dbair1967

03-13-2006, 07:10 AM

Brees left New Orelans w/o signing a deal, and I have read nothing anywhere about Tony Romo going to the Saints

would love to trade him for a mid rd pick but I'm sure Parcells wont do it

David

jman

03-13-2006, 07:11 AM

Just read it again here today, Romo/Brees to Saints. Why is that a constant theme? Why not Henson to Saints? If Payton is such a QB guru - why doesn't he want to get the Henson from us?:o:

Why is he shying away from drafting another high profile Pedigree QB project ala Henson? And bringing in a slightly above average Vet at a $10M A year cost?

These moves of Brees, Romo to Saints will drastically alter round 1 draft and signal Dallas is ready to sign a Vet backup and that they are sold Henson is ready NOW.- Maybe the Tampa workouts have shown that Henson is ready NOW and Romo is expendable now. We can also draft a QB day 2 in draft.

This also shows why it would have been wise to extend Bledsoe's deal 2 weeks ago. Bree's signing radically changes QB market forever.

And that makes it credible?

It's a constant theme because it's something being thrown against the wall and seeing if it sticks.

I suggest you go wash up because you have been hit square in the face with a bunch of crap that someone is throwing out.

Because it's said here dosn't mean it's credible, valid, or has any worth at all. Man, Nors, you should know that.

Nors

03-13-2006, 07:13 AM

Brees met with Saints/Miami-

Saints were reported closest to meeting his $10M a year demands.

This should go down today and sets the market for future QB deals/pay.

superpunk

03-13-2006, 07:14 AM

:jerk:

iceberg

03-13-2006, 07:15 AM

Brees met with Saints/Miami-

Saints were reported closest to meeting his $10M a year demands.

This should go down today and sets the market for future QB deals/pay.

so follow up, lie-man. where is romo going to the saints? like others say, you tend to lie about move after move and then simply "forget" all the wrong ones but you never shut up about the 1 you lucked into.

LINK of ROMO TO SAINTS PLEASE.

Nors

03-13-2006, 07:16 AM

And that makes it credible?

It's a constant theme because it's something being thrown against the wall and seeing if it sticks.

I suggest you go wash up because you have been hit square in the face with a bunch of crap that someone is throwing out.

Because it's said here dosn't mean it's credible, valid, or has any worth at all. Man, Nors, you should know that.

No - Brees met with Saints yesterday and are in running for him with Miami.

Romo is more speculative by some here - I'll give you that. I personally see him staying. We turned down a 3rd last year from Jets so we would probably do same now.

Jarv

03-13-2006, 07:19 AM

so follow up, lie-man. where is romo going to the saints? like others say, you tend to lie about move after move and then simply "forget" all the wrong ones but you never shut up about the 1 you lucked into.

LINK of ROMO TO SAINTS PLEASE.

http://norsguidetothegalaxy.com/romotosaints.html

jman

03-13-2006, 07:22 AM

No - Brees met with Saints yesterday and are in running for him with Miami.

Romo is more speculative by some here - I'll give you that. I personally see him staying. We turned down a 3rd last year from Jets so we would probably do same now.

The part about Brees is not in question. It's a fact. We all know that. Didn't need to read it here. That's been reported by everyone. And when he signs somewhere we will all know that too.

The rest of the crap you threw out there is what is in question. And that is what you are admitting as more than speculative...by some here...notably you right now.

iceberg

03-13-2006, 07:24 AM

http://norsguidetothegalaxy.com/romotosaints.html

whew. for a minute i thought he was FOS again. : )

isn't there a rule about intentionally misleading headlines - since nors loves to let you know when YOU stray, i just like returning the favor.

thanks, jarv! most excellent!

dbair1967

03-13-2006, 07:24 AM

Brees met with Saints/Miami-

Saints were reported closest to meeting his $10M a year demands.

This should go down today and sets the market for future QB deals/pay.

Brees to visit Dolphins; leaves Saints without dealAssociated Press

NEW ORLEANS -- Free-agent quarterback Drew Brees showed good mobility Sunday, completing a visit with the Saints in New Orleans and then flying to Miami to talk with Dolphins officials.

The meetings were confirmed by Brees' agent, Tom Condon. He declined to characterize negotiations but said a deal was unlikely before Monday at the earliest, with Brees planning to remain in Miami overnight.

"I'm not going to talk to the Dolphins until [Monday]," Condon said.

Miami coach Nick Saban and general manager Randy Mueller also met Saturday with Brees in Birmingham, Ala., where he has been rehabilitating his surgically repaired right shoulder.

Brees went to New Orleans later Saturday and left Sunday without a deal. The Saints and Dolphins are considered front-runners to sign Brees, the top quarterback available in free agency.

"Those are the two teams we have scheduled so far," Condon said.

The Dolphins are also considering a trade for Minnesota Vikings quarterback Daunte Culpepper. Miami wants to upgrade the position after going 9-7 last season with Gus Frerotte at quarterback.

The Saints are pursing Brees as a replacement for Aaron Brooks.

"You've got a young ascending player who's proven at this level he can win," Saints coach Sean Payton said.

Brees spent the last five seasons with the San Diego Chargers but reached a stalemate with them on a new contract.

Before leaving New Orleans, Brees said the devastation of Hurricane Katrina wouldn't dissuade him from joining the Saints. He said he helped build winning teams at Purdue and San Diego, and the challenge of doing the same with the Saints appealed to him.

"I think being a part of that would be a great opportunity," he said.

Brees tore the labrum and damaged the rotator cuff in his throwing shoulder in the final game last season and underwent surgery Jan. 5. He said Sunday that he faces another four or five months of recovery and doesn't anticipate any long-term effects.

There are also health questions regarding Culpepper, who has asked the Vikings to trade him. He tore three ligaments in his right knee Oct. 30.

Redball Express

03-13-2006, 07:24 AM

Romo is not going to break the bank and would help in establishing the offense Payton wants to run there.

Henson isn't going anywhere at this point. He's still in the incubator.

And he's JJ's project.

And I do agree, the idea of letting Romo go and bringing in a vet to backup Bledsoe is a huge idea that must be explored.

With all this drafting and fine tuning in FA to fix problems and increase scoring..

..not having a veteran on the roster who can step in for Bledsoe if only for a few games and still be able to run the full offense is the difference b/w still contending and fading into the sunset if that happens.

After what I saw with Quincy when he was in there, we'd just implode into wanting to run the football 30+ times and kick FG's and punt all day to win games.

We know how that goes.

So letting the ROMO/Henson experiment continue is to me planing to fail if circumstances happen that we lose Bledsoe for any length of time.

Bledsoe is tough, but another season anything like last year and he's going to go down. The odds say it.

So then what..?

I'd be happy to bring in another young QB prospect. But to do so means no vet to backup and for the next 2 seasons under BP, we've got to have a Mark Brunell-type just in case.

BP learned this under the Simms-Brunell days that even as tough as Simms was..Brunell had to be there to step in and win for him in NY.

So we'll see.

The day we acquire a vet backup to me will be the day BP feels he's got enough rebuilding done to make a real run at the title. There is no way anybody can convince me that if this team is playing well by mid-season and Bledsoe should go down, that BP is going to be able to hand the playoff chances over to a virtual rookie QB like a Romo or Henson.

They'll never stand up to the pressure of the situation or the pressure of the coach in that situation.

Only a vet can do this.

To this point, my feeling has been there are still too many holes on the team to commit to bringing in a guy like that and paying him and preparing him.

That's why the Romo/Henson experiment and BP's willingness to ride that out while he then moved Bledsoe to the head of the line at QB. He now needs to backfill the QB position behind Bledsoe as insurance.

Now the next insurance piece there needs to be acquired. In FA, in the June cuts or the TC cuts.

It would be great to see Henson step up and be the #2, but we have no experience with him in pressure games and I think it's pretty difficult to imagine it based on what we've seen so far from Henson. I also have my doubts how good Henson would be in playing NFL Europe and then a TC and then a regular season.

That's a ton of football in one year. Could he really be an ironman and do all that and grab the #2 spot and be effective enough for BP..?

Big question.

Nors, you can come up with some wild speculation, but I've seen you also hit on some things that nobody gives you credit for bringing up long before it happens.

I'm on board with you on this one, too.

Who is the backup in NO right now or the starter that Brees would be replacing..? That would be the logical lynchpin for a deal like Romo to NO. I'm not all that familiar with their current QB situation. I do recall that they aren't enamored with the starter last year.

We'll see.

parcellswaterboy

Jarv

03-13-2006, 07:25 AM

whew. for a minute i thought he was FOS again. : )

isn't there a rule about intentionally misleading headlines - since nors loves to let you know when YOU stray, i just like returning the favor.

thanks, jarv! most excellent!

Party on Jerr...

Hiero

03-13-2006, 04:15 PM