Update on Archuleta signing. HOLY MOSES!

[SDogo]

This is crazy!

Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta (http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl) signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.

[SDogo]

The amounts being thrown around are nuts! If I was Jerry I would be hiding my wallet as well!

[trickblue]

This is crazy!

Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports <A href="http://www.kffl.com/team/37/nfl">Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta (http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl) signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.
:eek:

[SDogo]

:eek:

That says it all:laugh2:

[skinsscalper]

LOL typical 4skin spending spree. Over pay for players that other teams are giving away for nothing. Right on cue.

SS

[sbuscha]

How is it they have cap room to do this? These guys are no accountants are they...:lmao2:

[superpunk]

LOL. If safeties that are bad in coverage are getting paid like that, Davis is gonna break the bank for us.

[Cbz40]

I just have one thing to say......nevermind I'll just


:lmao:

[littlewebs]

What happened to starting 12-15 rookies, they only got an extra 7 or 8 million, they're waaaaaay over that in 3 days.

[austintodallas]

Wow, that Rivera and Ferguson thing doesn't look so bad anymore.

[superpunk]

I just have one thing to say......nevermind I'll just


:lmao:

I'm right there rollin with you. The floor around my desk has never been so clean. :D

[StanleySpadowski]

Archuleta is now the highest paid safety in the NFL??????

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:


That should go over real well with Taylor.

:lmao: :lmao:

[CowboysNumeroUno]

I honestly don't understand how they got far enough under the cap to afford all these contracts

[kingwhicker]

Those fools could've drafted some jabroni in the 3rd or 4th round that would have been just as good as Archuleta and have an upside.

[5Stars]

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Can't you just imagine the Redstinks fans that come over here blabbing about this and that? I bet their tiny head are really working overtime to try and justify that kind of cash!

But, just watch....they will think it's the best move yet!! :rolleyes:

:lmao2: :lmao2:

[HardHittin'Witten]

Wow! :lmao2:

[superpunk]

Those fools could've drafted some jabroni in the 3rd or 4th round that would have been just as good as Archuleta and have an upside.

Silly.....those picks have to be conserved. There aren't that many overrated names they can over-compensate left! It's only day three. LMAO!!!!

[kingwhicker]

What happened to starting 12-15 rookies, they only got an extra 7 or 8 million, they're waaaaaay over that in 3 days.

They don't have a cap- never had, never will. They also don't have anything to show for their free spending- never have, never will. Book it.

[canters]

I honestly don't understand how they got far enough under the cap to afford all these contracts

The cap is a joke, or the Skins are masters at abusing the system.

I am convinced that if there were no cap, the Skins would spend ANY price to get EVERY player not under contract.

Surely, they will pay a price in the near future for this spendng.

[CaptainAmerica]

This signing makes me wonder what they know about Sean Taylor's situation.
Perhaps they know he's in real trouble and they are covering themselves.

[BigDFan5]

:suxskins:

:huh: <---Joe Gibbs

:ohboy: <--Snyder

:jackpot: <--Archuletta

:disco: <---Archulettas agent

[Clove]

I think the deadskins are the mafia.

[Dale]

That's a lot of dough to pony up for a guy who has three career interceptions, recorded 0 forced fumbles last sesaon, recovered only one....though he did have 3.5 sacks.

I've tried to be unbiased in all of the 'Skins signings (saying that, despite overpaying Randle El, he brings speed -- which I was corrected on, and told it's quickness more so than speed -- etc.), but I've always considered Archuleta one of the more overrated players at his position. I guess I can feel that way even more so now that he's making $5 million a year.

[superpunk]

The cap is a joke, or the Skins are masters at abusing the system.

I am convinced that if there were no cap, the Skins would spend ANY price to get EVERY player not under contract.

Surely, they will pay a price in the near future for this spendng.

The only way they were ever going to pay was if the CBA wasn't extended. Everyone who's puzzled about how they're getting this done needs to keep that in mind. With CBA extension - no cap hell. We could be doing the same thing.


But that would be the acme of foolishness.

Oh, I can't stop laughing. :lmao2::lmao2::lmao2::lmao2:

[kingwhicker]

I bet their tiny head are really working overtime to try and justify that kind of cash!

I bet that's not the only tiny part of their bodies that are getting overworked these last few days. :jerk:

[bbgun]

This guy's a bust. He had a great combine and conned the Rams. He's no better than Bowens.

[5Stars]

I think the deadskins are the mafia.

Well, I think there is a secret pact out there among many NFL players, that if you want some money, just sweet talk Lil Snyder, and he will give you all you want! :lmao:

Remember Primetime...what, he played just one year for them? Anyways after he quit on them, he was still owed 6 Million from the Little Squirt, and he said on National TV, "Tell Mr. Snyder, I love him..."

:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2:

[TheSkaven]

I just have one thing to say......nevermind I'll just :lmao:We're all laughing now, but just remember when it comes time to redo Roy's contract in 2006 or 2007, we'll be leading the torch mob to Snyder's palace. If Archuleta can get this kind of contract, imagine what Roy will get? *shiver*

:(

[Eddie]

Is this the Redskins forum or the Cowboys forum? I fuggets.

You guys are so caught up in the Redskins, it's sickening. Every other thread is about the Redskins.

WHO THE F CARES ABOUT THE REDSKINS !!!???!!!

Let them do what they do. Time will tell if it's right or now. Who are we to judge or laugh. Heck, they kicked our butts twice last year.

There are 31 other teams to talk about other than the Redskins.

[MinnesotaCowboy]

This signing makes me wonder what they know about Sean Taylor's situation.
Perhaps they know he's in real trouble and they are covering themselves.

My thoughts exactly!!!!!

[DCBoysfan]

This is crazy!

Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta (http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl) signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.


Wow I think he makes more than S. Taylor!

[5Stars]

Is this the Redskins forum or the Cowboys forum? I fuggets.

You guys are so caught up in the Redskins, it's sickening. Every other thread is about the Redskins.

WHO THE F CARES ABOUT THE REDSKINS !!!???!!!

Let them do what they do. Time will tell if it's right or now. Who are we to judge or laugh. Heck, they kicked our butts twice last year.

There are 31 other teams to talk about other than the Redskins.

You have control over how you want to use your mouse, right?

[stilltheguru]

Is this the Redskins forum or the Cowboys forum? I fuggets.

You guys are so caught up in the Redskins, it's sickening. Every other thread is about the Redskins.

WHO THE F CARES ABOUT THE REDSKINS !!!???!!!

Let them do what they do. Time will tell if it's right or now. Who are we to judge or laugh. Heck, they kicked our butts twice last year.

There are 31 other teams to talk about other than the Redskins.




i agree too many skins threads but this one had to be made for comedy reasons.but yes no more skins threads.

[dmq]

BTW, those guys are already about to dance around w/ the trophy over there.


Well... you're kinda-sorta right. The SKins are never in the trouble the media makes them out to be in, but... they are in trouble. The media gleefully reported that they were at $114 million against the cap when any fifth-grader could figure out that there were very simple steps they could take to step under it (mostly by reconfiguring guaranteed bonuses, which they did). As I've said before, it ain't cap hell, but it is cap heck.

Here's the problem for the Skins with the cap: they're thin. They devote a greater proportion of their cap dollars to the few players at the top than most teams do, and the result is that they have to rely on very cheap players to fill out the roster. Take a look at the cap numbers for the playoff teams last year: the Skins devote more cap room to fewer players at the top than the others. Every team has a handful of players who eat up lots of the cap, but the Skins take it to the extreme. Couple that with pretty poor drafting outside of the first two rounds, and you've got a problem.

When other teams lose an offensive lineman, they don't have to turn to a 45 year old. The Skins do. And they're still in that boat. They're going to be a very talented squad this fall, but they're not very far from being a terribly untalented squad.

Picture this: Springs gets injured. Or Griffin. Or Jansen. The talent level at those positions drops precipitiously. Now, no team has all-pros waiting in the wings, but other teams have slightly better backups because they pay them and develop them better. The Skins tend to have bargain-basement journeymen as backups, not future starters or significant contributors being developed. We have seen this at linebacker -- young players turning into starters over time -- but then they immediately leave, so I'm not sure it's a great example.

For the Skins prior to recent renegotiations, the top 8 players eat up about a third of the cap for 2006. That has changed, esp with the departure of Lavar, but there is the question of philosophy: if you have $5 million in cap room, what do you do with it?

Do you (A) sign two big talent stars, or (B) sign four pretty darn good players? That will, of course, depend on your needs, but if you always land on the "A" side of the fence, I suspect you end up in trouble eventually.

The Skins were remarkably healthy last year. None of their critical players went down until Thomas was KO'ed. Portis played in the playoffs pretty banged up. Imagine if Moss or Portis had been injured? Or Springs? Or Cooley?

You go from Cooley to Royal (last year). You go from Moss to... umm... well... I guess nobody. We know what you got when Thomas went out. So don't celebrate the Skins cap management too much. Everyone who writes that the Skins will have to demolish the team to get under the cap is a fool, but anyone who thinks there isn't a price for the way they manage the cap is also a fool.

[TheHustler]

On the downside, Roy is going to ask for a LOT next year when it's time for him to re-up.

[ThreeSportStar80]

This guy is OVERRATED!!! No way in the world is he worth that kind of money...

[stilltheguru]

at first i didnt think roy would ask for alot when he had to re-up but now that i see this contract he will.thanks alot skins.:mad:

[AdamJT13]

This is crazy!

Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta (http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl) signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.

That report isn't quite accurate. Archuleta's signing bonus was only $5 million, which makes his cap number $1.585 million this season. He has a $5 million option bonus due next season. So the Skins could just cut him after one season. and have just $4 million in dead money, either all in 2007 or split between 2007 and 2008.

[stilltheguru]

roy to the skins next year.lol scary thought eh?

[Om]

At the risk of being stoned to death ...

Yes, $30mil over six years averages $5mil per. But we all do understand that doesn't necessarily mean a $5 cap number every year, right? That the signing bonus will be pro rated over 6 years? And that probably a third or more of the remaingin $20mil is going to be backloaded into the final year or two, which he'll never see and won't actually ever be on the books?

Just sayin'.

[clayman]

We're all laughing now, but just remember when it comes time to redo Roy's contract in 2006 or 2007, we'll be leading the torch mob to Snyder's palace. If Archuleta can get this kind of contract, imagine what Roy will get? *shiver*



:(


Bingo....ouch.

[jman]

That's a lot of dough to pony up for a guy who has three career interceptions, recorded 0 forced fumbles last sesaon, recovered only one....though he did have 3.5 sacks.

I've tried to be unbiased in all of the 'Skins signings (saying that, despite overpaying Randle El, he brings speed -- which I was corrected on, and told it's quickness more so than speed -- etc.), but I've always considered Archuleta one of the more overrated players at his position. I guess I can feel that way even more so now that he's making $5 million a year.

Geeze, I don't even play and he only has three more than I do...LOL

[1fisher]

That report isn't quite accurate. Archuleta's signing bonus was only $5 million, which makes his cap number $1.585 million this season. He has a $5 million option bonus due next season. So the Skins could just cut him after one season. and have just $4 million in dead money, either all in 2007 or split between 2007 and 2008.


So the Skins could just cut him after one season. and have just $4 million in dead money


seems to be the way they operate!

[wesleyc288]

Is this the Redskins forum or the Cowboys forum? I fuggets.

You guys are so caught up in the Redskins, it's sickening. Every other thread is about the Redskins.

WHO THE F CARES ABOUT THE REDSKINS !!!???!!!

Let them do what they do. Time will tell if it's right or now. Who are we to judge or laugh. Heck, they kicked our butts twice last year.

There are 31 other teams to talk about other than the Redskins.

My point exactly......Until we beat them....we cant laugh and talk about what they do.....Beating the redskins ON THE FIELD is the only thing that matters

[TobiasEagle77]

This guy's a bust. He had a great combine and conned the Rams. He's no better than Bowens.
exactly. The skins are spending a pretty penny to tread water at best. They also lost Ryan Clark. They've actually gotten worse at safety, and might lose Taylor as well.

[1fisher]

exactly. The skins are spending a pretty penny to tread water at best. They also lost Ryan Clark. They've actually gotten worse at safety, and might lose Taylor as well.


what's up tobias?? Haven't seen you around for a while?:cool:

[cowheel]

This is crazy!

Redskins | Contract update: A. Archuleta
Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:42:45 -0800
Jason La Canfora, of the Washington Post, reports Washington Redskins S Adam Archuleta (http://www.kffl.com/player/1772/nfl) signed a six-year contract that averages $5 million a season to join the Redskins. Archuleta's contract includes a sizeable $10 million signing bonus.

:lmao:
Every present & future safety in the league just got a HUGE bargaining chip.
Archuleta has had 5 concussions... thats 2 mil per....

[1fisher]

:lmao:
Every present & future safety in the league just got a HUGE bargaining chip.
Archuleta has had 5 concussions... thats 2 mil per....


5 concussions are you serious???

[BroGreg]

Is this the Redskins forum or the Cowboys forum? I fuggets.

You guys are so caught up in the Redskins, it's sickening. Every other thread is about the Redskins.

WHO THE F CARES ABOUT THE REDSKINS !!!???!!!

Let them do what they do. Time will tell if it's right or now. Who are we to judge or laugh. Heck, they kicked our butts twice last year.

There are 31 other teams to talk about other than the Redskins.

Well trust me the skins fans have plenty of threads about us, but I understand your point.

However, I think the issue is why does this owner continue to do the same thing year after year after year without the expected results?


And we can't pretend that we do not care, because when our boys don't do well or have a good offseason the first thing that comes up is a comparison of other owners.


Oh... time will tell and this is just the beginning.
I think Jerry has a trump card up his sleeve.
:star:

[aznhalf]

BTW, those guys are already about to dance around w/ the trophy over there.


Well... you're kinda-sorta right. The SKins are never in the trouble the media makes them out to be in, but... they are in trouble. The media gleefully reported that they were at $114 million against the cap when any fifth-grader could figure out that there were very simple steps they could take to step under it (mostly by reconfiguring guaranteed bonuses, which they did). As I've said before, it ain't cap hell, but it is cap heck.

Here's the problem for the Skins with the cap: they're thin. They devote a greater proportion of their cap dollars to the few players at the top than most teams do, and the result is that they have to rely on very cheap players to fill out the roster. Take a look at the cap numbers for the playoff teams last year: the Skins devote more cap room to fewer players at the top than the others. Every team has a handful of players who eat up lots of the cap, but the Skins take it to the extreme. Couple that with pretty poor drafting outside of the first two rounds, and you've got a problem.

When other teams lose an offensive lineman, they don't have to turn to a 45 year old. The Skins do. And they're still in that boat. They're going to be a very talented squad this fall, but they're not very far from being a terribly untalented squad.

Picture this: Springs gets injured. Or Griffin. Or Jansen. The talent level at those positions drops precipitiously. Now, no team has all-pros waiting in the wings, but other teams have slightly better backups because they pay them and develop them better. The Skins tend to have bargain-basement journeymen as backups, not future starters or significant contributors being developed. We have seen this at linebacker -- young players turning into starters over time -- but then they immediately leave, so I'm not sure it's a great example.

For the Skins prior to recent renegotiations, the top 8 players eat up about a third of the cap for 2006. That has changed, esp with the departure of Lavar, but there is the question of philosophy: if you have $5 million in cap room, what do you do with it?

Do you (A) sign two big talent stars, or (B) sign four pretty darn good players? That will, of course, depend on your needs, but if you always land on the "A" side of the fence, I suspect you end up in trouble eventually.

The Skins were remarkably healthy last year. None of their critical players went down until Thomas was KO'ed. Portis played in the playoffs pretty banged up. Imagine if Moss or Portis had been injured? Or Springs? Or Cooley?

You go from Cooley to Royal (last year). You go from Moss to... umm... well... I guess nobody. We know what you got when Thomas went out. So don't celebrate the Skins cap management too much. Everyone who writes that the Skins will have to demolish the team to get under the cap is a fool, but anyone who thinks there isn't a price for the way they manage the cap is also a fool.

Well said.

[TobiasEagle77]

at first i didnt think roy would ask for alot when he had to re-up but now that i see this contract he will.thanks alot skins.:mad:
The Eagles Michael Lewis is coming up for UFA next year too.

[TobiasEagle77]

what's up tobias?? Haven't seen you around for a while?:cool:
sup fisher. yeah, I don't post as obsesively as I once did :)

[cowheel]

5 concussions are you serious???

Yeah ...
got a friend who is a HUGE lifelong Rams fan.

I asked him about the signing... he says if he was worth that they would have paid him... in addition he's had like 5 concussions..lol

Not sure if thats exact - but this guys a Rams fanatic...

[kingwhicker]

On the downside, Roy is going to ask for a LOT next year when it's time for him to re-up.

Well, I wouldn't break the bank on him, I don't think he's nearly as good as I thought he would be.

[Chuck 54]

I think the issue is why does this owner continue to do the same thing year after year after year without the expected results?



He actually did get the results last season...From coming in last in the division the year before, he leap frogged both Philly and the Cowboys into
2nd place (and they actually finished the year better than the Giants)...they went to the playoffs...they won a playoff game...they were 1 win from playing for the NFC championship.

Will they get it done this year? who knows...I sure hope not, but I'm sure he's putting his money into the goal of getting to or beyond the championship game this year.

[Rockytop6]

How is it they have cap room to do this? These guys are no accountants are they...:lmao2:

Are you kidding me? They have great acccountants. They are the only team I know that can be $20m over the cap and turn around and sign a boat load of high priced FA that teams that are $20m under the cap can't afford to sign.

If I were JJ, I wouldn't put my money in coaches, I would put my money investing in the Redskins' accountants.

[billknows]

Those fools could've drafted some jabroni in the 3rd or 4th round that would have been just as good as Archuleta and have an upside.

:eek: :eek: :confused: :confused: :laugh2: :lmao: :lmao: :D ;)

[Paniolo22]

Archuleta isn't terrible, and he is a pretty good SS, which is how they are probably going to use him. Taylor at FS and AA at SS is not a bad tandom, and better than Davis and Williams. Salaries aside of course.

[Ashwynn]

Just goes to show, you bail em out, they dont learn. This next time Snyders back is against the wall, Tags better not bail him out. Thats the ibiggest travesty aboutthis whole CBA crap. They let the skins walk. And whats Snyder do. Immediately grabs the shovel and starts digging the next redskin grave. Stupid freak of a little man.

[1fisher]

sup fisher. yeah, I don't post as obsesively as I once did :)


we're getting slammed with skins fans.....good to see someone else for a change!

[1fisher]

Yeah ...
got a friend who is a HUGE lifelong Rams fan.

I asked him about the signing... he says if he was worth that they would have paid him... in addition he's had like 5 concussions..lol

Not sure if thats exact - but this guys a Rams fanatic...

5 is a lot!!!!:eek: