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trickblue
03-14-2006, 07:50 AM
JJT:
Right now it is about 90% that the Cowboys will not keep Key and pay his bonus.
Key wants a raise, not a huge one, but he wants about 1.5 mil dollar raise. It isn't huge compared to other WR, but he is 34 now.
Key is as astute business man as you will find. He sees this game as a business man, "Bill's Guy" or not.
If he gets released today he will sign somewhere and make the money he wants.
Everybody I talk to in and out of the building says it will be a no on TO, but who knows.
Moulds will cost about the same as Key wants. If you aren't gonna pay Key, then why pay another WR that isn't as good.
They need someone. Are you going into the season with Glenn and Crayton as 1 and 2? Maybe they are setting the stage to go high on a WR in the draft.
Key is kind of a loner, but he practices hard and he doesn't mind telling someone when they aren't practicing like they should. He does get respect in that sense.
Key stated earlier this year that he doesn't believe TO belongs here. Maybe they are paving the way for him by releasing TO.
I don't see how they can spend 5 mil on Kosier and keep LA. They may have some kind of plan to keep him, but I don't see it.
Ayodele is a slight upgrada from Fujita. He is better against the run and can rush the passer a bit better. Those I talk to say he is comparable to Bradie James.
The Cowboys are still likely to go with a LB on day one in the draft.
We know, although he has slipped, LA is still a pretty good player. We don't know that Kosier is. What I have read on the net say he isn't that good.
The Cowboys were a bit apprehensive about Longwell's asking price. They are weird about kickers. I don't see them paying that kind of money for Vinatieri.
I doubt they would take Coleman. Palmer was in Houston with him last year and he missed meetings and had some attitude problems.
Some of the message boards are very dissappointed with the Cowboys activity. They are waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Even from my inside sources, I can get no one that knows anything about TO making a visit here.

TruBlueCowboy
03-14-2006, 07:52 AM
Sounds like no to TO and no to really any impact free agent. Hope the conservative plan pays off. Here's wishing for another great draft!

trueblue1687
03-14-2006, 07:53 AM
Thanks for the recap.

Jarv
03-14-2006, 07:56 AM
JJT:
Right now it is about 90% that the COwboys will keep Key and pay his bonus.

Everybody I talk to in and out of the building says it will be a no on TO, but who knows.

Key is kind of a loner, but he practices hard and he doesn't mind telling someone when they aren't practicing like they should. He does get respect in that sense.

Ayodele is a slight upgrada from Fujita. He is better against the run and can rush the passer a bit better. Those I talk to say he is comparable to Bradie James.

I doubt they would take Coleman. Palmer was in Houston with him last year and he missed meetings and had some attitude problems.

Some of the message boards are very dissappointed with the Cowboys activity. They are waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Even from my inside sources, I can get no one that knows anything about TO making a visit here.

Wonder what JJT screen name is here ?

No mention of Jevon Walker ? Is that a sign in itself ?

Zaxor
03-14-2006, 07:57 AM
JJT:
Right now it is about 90% that the Cowboys will not keep Key and pay his bonus.
Key wants a raise, not a huge one, but he wants about 1.5 mil dollar raise. It isn't huge compared to other WR, but he is 34 now.
Key is as astute business man as you will find. He sees this game as a business man, "Bill's Guy" or not.
If he gets released today he will sign somewhere and make the money he wants.
Everybody I talk to in and out of the building says it will be a no on TO, but who knows.
Moulds will cost about the same as Key wants. If you aren't gonna pay Key, then why pay another WR that isn't as good.
They need someone. Are you going into the season with Glenn and Crayton as 1 and 2? Maybe they are setting the stage to go high on a WR in the draft.
Key is kind of a loner, but he practices hard and he doesn't mind telling someone when they aren't practicing like they should. He does get respect in that sense.
Key stated earlier this year that he doesn't believe TO belongs here. Maybe they are paving the way for him by releasing TO.
I don't see how they can spend 5 mil on Kosier and keep LA. They may have some kind of plan to keep him, but I don't see it.
Ayodele is a slight upgrada from Fujita. He is better against the run and can rush the passer a bit better. Those I talk to say he is comparable to Bradie James.
The Cowboys are still likely to go with a LB on day one in the draft.
We know, although he has slipped, LA is still a pretty good player. We don't know that Kosier is. What I have read on the net say he isn't that good.
The Cowboys were a bit apprehensive about Longwell's asking price. They are weird about kickers. I don't see them paying that kind of money for Vinatieri.
I doubt they would take Coleman. Palmer was in Houston with him last year and he missed meetings and had some attitude problems.
Some of the message boards are very dissappointed with the Cowboys activity. They are waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Even from my inside sources, I can get no one that knows anything about TO making a visit here.

Man do I hope he is right

Charles
03-14-2006, 07:58 AM
JJT:
Right now it is about 90% that the COwboys will keep Key and pay his bonus.
Key wants a raise, not a huge one, but he wants about 1.5 mil dollar raise. It isn't huge compared to other WR, but he is 34 now.
Key is as astute business man as you will find. He sees this game as a business man, "Bill's Guy" or not.
If he gets released today he will sign somewhere and make the money he wants.
Everybody I talk to in and out of the building says it will be a no on TO, but who knows.
Moulds will cost about the same as Key wants. If you aren't gonna pay Key, then why pay another WR that isn't as good.
They need someone. Are you going into the season with Glenn and Crayton as 1 and 2? Maybe they are setting the stage to go high on a WR in the draft.
Key is kind of a loner, but he practices hard and he doesn't mind telling someone when they aren't practicing like they should. He does get respect in that sense.
Key stated earlier this year that he doesn't believe TO belongs here. Maybe they are paving the way for him by releasing TO.
I don't see how they can spend 5 mil on Kosier and keep LA. They may have some kind of plan to keep him, but I don't see it.
Ayodele is a slight upgrada from Fujita. He is better against the run and can rush the passer a bit better. Those I talk to say he is comparable to Bradie James.
The Cowboys are still likely to go with a LB on day one in the draft.
We know, although he has slipped, LA is still a pretty good player. We don't know that Kosier is. What I have read on the net say he isn't that good.
The Cowboys were a bit apprehensive about Longwell's asking price. They are weird about kickers. I don't see them paying that kind of money for Vinatieri.
I doubt they would take Coleman. Palmer was in Houston with him last year and he missed meetings and had some attitude problems.
Some of the message boards are very dissappointed with the Cowboys activity. They are waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Even from my inside sources, I can get no one that knows anything about TO making a visit here.

I think we give Keyshawn his raise. He'll play good soldier once TO is aboard.

I like the idea of Bradie James and Akin Ayodele being out ILBs tandem.

Grab Manny Lawson in the 2nd RD, Hope that Burnett can have a healthy season and progress ala James and our LB core in the 3-4 will be set for the next 3-4 seasons.

Ware...Kalen

James...Fowler

Ayodele....Shanle

Burnett....Lawson

jman
03-14-2006, 07:58 AM
JJT:

Right now it is about 90% that the COwboys will keep Key and pay his bonus.
Key wants a raise, not a huge one, but he wants about 1.5 mil dollar raise. It isn't huge compared to other WR, but he is 34 now.
Key is as astute business man as you will find. He sees this game as a business man, "Bill's Guy" or not.
If he gets released today he will sign somewhere and make the money he wants.
Everybody I talk to in and out of the building says it will be a no on TO, but who knows. (This is good news to me!)
Moulds will cost about the same as Key wants. If you aren't gonna pay Key, then why pay another WR that isn't as good.
They need someone. Are you going into the season with Glenn and Crayton as 1 and 2? Maybe they are setting the stage to go high on a WR in the draft.
Key is kind of a loner, but he practices hard and he doesn't mind telling someone when they aren't practicing like they should. He does get respect in that sense.
Key stated earlier this year that he doesn't believe TO belongs here. Maybe they are paving the way for him by releasing TO.
I don't see how they can spend 5 mil on Kosier and keep LA. They may have some kind of plan to keep him, but I don't see it.
Ayodele is a slight upgrada from Fujita. He is better against the run and can rush the passer a bit better. Those I talk to say he is comparable to Bradie James.
The Cowboys are still likely to go with a LB on day one in the draft.
We know, although he has slipped, LA is still a pretty good player. We don't know that Kosier is. What I have read on the net say he isn't that good. (What? What he read on the net?...Isn't it his job to make a phone call? What about talking to someone with the Cowboys as to what their thinking was. Heck, I could have done that. What a total lack of effert on JJT's part. Can I get paid to look at the net and "report"...what a hack!)
The Cowboys were a bit apprehensive about Longwell's asking price. They are weird about kickers. I don't see them paying that kind of money for Vinatieri.
I doubt they would take Coleman. Palmer was in Houston with him last year and he missed meetings and had some attitude problems.
Some of the message boards are very dissappointed with the Cowboys activity. They are waiting for the other shoe to drop. (Again...stop with the boards and pick up a freaking phone or get in your car and drive to Valley Ranch and do your job!)
Even from my inside sources, I can get no one that knows anything about TO making a visit here.

.....

Hostile
03-14-2006, 07:59 AM
I think we give Keyshawn his raise. He'll play good soldier once TO is aboard.

I like the idea of Bradie James and Akin Ayodele being out ILBs tandem.

Grab Manny Lawson in the 2nd RD, Hope that Burnett can have a healthy season and progress ala James and our LB core in the 3-4 will be set for the next 3-4 seasons.

Ware...Kalen

James...Fowler

Ayodele....Shanle

Burnett....LawsonHate to tell you this, but no way Manny Lawson lasts until the 2nd and I think we're very interested in him at 18.

Nors
03-14-2006, 08:00 AM
Wait till the TO to Dallas bubble is popped. All the TO fans are going to be despondent. And thats a GREAT thing.

Charles
03-14-2006, 08:00 AM
Hate to tell you this, but no way Manny Lawson lasts until the 2nd and I think we're very interested in him at 18.
Hey I am with you on that. If you want a guy go get him.........

BulletBob
03-14-2006, 08:00 AM
JJT:
Right now it is about 90% that the COwboys will keep Key and pay his bonus.
Key wants a raise, not a huge one, but he wants about 1.5 mil dollar raise. It isn't huge compared to other WR, but he is 34 now.
Key is as astute business man as you will find. He sees this game as a business man, "Bill's Guy" or not.
If he gets released today he will sign somewhere and make the money he wants.
Everybody I talk to in and out of the building says it will be a no on TO, but who knows.
Moulds will cost about the same as Key wants. If you aren't gonna pay Key, then why pay another WR that isn't as good.
They need someone. Are you going into the season with Glenn and Crayton as 1 and 2? Maybe they are setting the stage to go high on a WR in the draft.
Key is kind of a loner, but he practices hard and he doesn't mind telling someone when they aren't practicing like they should. He does get respect in that sense.
Key stated earlier this year that he doesn't believe TO belongs here. Maybe they are paving the way for him by releasing TO.
I don't see how they can spend 5 mil on Kosier and keep LA. They may have some kind of plan to keep him, but I don't see it.
Ayodele is a slight upgrada from Fujita. He is better against the run and can rush the passer a bit better. Those I talk to say he is comparable to Bradie James.
The Cowboys are still likely to go with a LB on day one in the draft.
We know, although he has slipped, LA is still a pretty good player. We don't know that Kosier is. What I have read on the net say he isn't that good.
The Cowboys were a bit apprehensive about Longwell's asking price. They are weird about kickers. I don't see them paying that kind of money for Vinatieri.
I doubt they would take Coleman. Palmer was in Houston with him last year and he missed meetings and had some attitude problems.
Some of the message boards are very dissappointed with the Cowboys activity. They are waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Even from my inside sources, I can get no one that knows anything about TO making a visit here.

Thanks for the update, TB.

It will be interesting to see if LA gets released, and what Frenchie's response will be if he does not. The French One has been like a dog clenching a bone on this one (LAs pending release being a fait accompli), but he seems to be trying to cover his derriere with this most recent statement.

Sacre Bleu!

Zaxor
03-14-2006, 08:01 AM
Hate to tell you this, but no way Manny Lawson lasts until the 2nd and I think we're very interested in him at 18.

I think he goes to Miami at 16..just a hunch

trickblue
03-14-2006, 08:01 AM
Guys... when I reread my post I had made a mistake...

JJT said the Cowboys will likely NOT keep Key... I have fixed it since... sorry...

Woods
03-14-2006, 08:01 AM
.....

We know, although he has slipped, LA is still a pretty good player. We don't know that Kosier is. What I have read on the net say he isn't that good. (What? What he read on the net?...Isn't it his job to make a phone call? What about talking to someone with the Cowboys as to what their thinking was. Heck, I could have done that. What a total lack of effert on JJT's part. Can I get paid to look at the net and "report"...what a hack!)

I was thinking the same thing!

Where does this guy get most of his info? Off internet sites?

yesfan
03-14-2006, 08:02 AM
I can't believe these stubborn idiots with kickers.Hello!
they are just as important,if not more when it's all on the
line.Couch up the money,or just watch another fiasco of
a season wasted.:bang2:

InmanRoshi
03-14-2006, 08:02 AM
Would the release of Keyshawn mean they are clearing the way for TO?

Everyone I've talked to in and out of the building say they don't think so. But the question is do you trust Patrick Crayton as a #2? There really isn't much out there right now as far as starting WR's go. Are you going to get
Eric Moulds? He's the same age as Keyshawn and really not any better. If that's all you're looking at then you might as well pay Keyshawn his money. Also, that means you've released Keyshawn, Dan Campbell and LeRoi Glover in an offseason, so you've removed 3 of the best players in the lockerroom. Now, Keyshawn isn't buddy-buddy with all the players and he's a bit of a loner, but he also sets the tone at practice and he also isnt afraid to get in a player's face and challenge them if he thinks they aren't buying into the program, and the Cowboys really don't have a lot of players like that in their lockerroom. Terry Glenn is a terrific player, but he normally doesn't play 16 games and he doesn't make 3rd down catches down the middle. He does certain things very well, but Keyshawn bringsa lot of other things to the table.


Does the signing of Kosier mean that LA will be off the roster?
I can't see how they would spent $5 million up front for a guard and not release Larry Allen.

Is Ayodele an upgrade over Fujita?
Slight upgrade, because he's probably a better run stopper and he was a pass rusher in college so he's more versatile. What I keep hearing about him is he plays the run extremely well. I've hnd people tell me he's very similar to Bradie James. I thik they'll add a LB high in the draft, and don't forget Kevin Burnett. He won't be 100% back from his knee injury next year but he should be more experienced


Kosier for Allen, Ayodele for Fujita ... the Cowboys really haven't taken many steps forward.

Nope, the thing about Larry is that I'm critical of his play compared to his salary. He's still a good player, but not a great player. Is Kosier a good player? You would assume he is since they paid him that money.

I remember seeing him at tackle, he was lost in space.
No, you don't want to play him at tackle. He's a guard. That's like playing Larry Allen at tackle.

How close did the Cowboys come to getting Longwell?
They are weird about kickers. Are you going to keep losing games because of your kicker? They really never got involved in Longwell once it reached a certain number, so you wouldn't expect them to do it for Vinny. It looks like they'll bring in a retread or another unknown guy.

Are the Cowboys persuing Marcus Coleman?
You would think so, but Coleman had some issues with alcohol last year. He missed some meetings and practices, and Chris Palmer was there so he can tell them all about it.

I'm getting a feeling that Cowboy fans are disappointed at the start of free agency.
Oh, I would say there is more than just a little disappointment. If you read the messageboards out there, Cowboy fans are waiting for a shoe to drop. Maybe TO is the other shoe to drop. I haven't gotten a word, even from my most reliable people, that TO is coming here. But maybe its just between Jerry and Bill.

Jarv
03-14-2006, 08:03 AM
Wait till the TO to Dallas bubble is popped. All the TO fans are going to be despondent. And thats a GREAT thing.

They'll get over it by November...When ESPN news has headlines on a Monday morning show, with TO and Trent Green boxing it out in the KC locker room.

jman
03-14-2006, 08:03 AM
Guys... when I reread my post I had made a mistake...

JJT said the Cowboys will likely NOT keep Key... I have fixed it since... sorry...

Oh great...Just say NO to to!

trickblue
03-14-2006, 08:04 AM
Would the release of Keyshawn mean they are clearing the way for TO?

.............

But maybe its just between Jerry and Bill.

Thanks IR... your recaps are always MUCH better than mine!

TruBlueCowboy
03-14-2006, 08:05 AM
Guys... when I reread my post I had made a mistake...

JJT said the Cowboys will likely NOT keep Key... I have fixed it since... sorry...

Wow! That changes everything! Maybe they will bring in TO now. Let's face facts though, Key is overrated. Gruden was right. The guy has no speed and is an overglorified tight end at this point in his career.

DCBoysfan
03-14-2006, 08:06 AM
But what he said does not make sense, how can you cut Key and not sign TO, I don't think you can do both it would have to be one or the other.

CrazyCowboy
03-14-2006, 08:07 AM
Guys... when I reread my post I had made a mistake...

JJT said the Cowboys will likely NOT keep Key... I have fixed it since... sorry...

I knew what you meant....thanks for the recap!

InmanRoshi
03-14-2006, 08:08 AM
If Jerry doesn't keep Keyshawn becuse he doesn't want to play him an extra 1.5 million, that's just being cheap. He's been a bargain the past 2 years, and has earned his roster bonus (and a modest raise). I'm begining to think Jerry is living off of reputation as a owner who will pay whatever it takes to win. I'm not asking him to go out and overpay for every free agent that fills a hole, but releasing Key over 1.5 is ridiculous. There clearly has been a Herculian gap between Jerry and Dan Snyder as far as financial commitment to their team this offseason. Maybe that will change as th offseason goes along, but Jerry is in a completely lower tier.

Cowboy4ever
03-14-2006, 08:09 AM
Man, This dude just crapped all over our FA hopes. No TO (maybe a good thing) But not Adam or any kicker worth a crap... going to cut key.. according to this guy, it would seem our FA is done and we are going to sit on 20 mil in cap space.

ravidubey
03-14-2006, 08:09 AM
I think we give Keyshawn his raise. He'll play good soldier once TO is aboard.

I like the idea of Bradie James and Akin Ayodele being out ILBs tandem.

Grab Manny Lawson in the 2nd RD, Hope that Burnett can have a healthy season and progress ala James and our LB core in the 3-4 will be set for the next 3-4 seasons.

Ware...Kalen

James...Fowler

Ayodele....Shanle

Burnett....Lawson

If we draft Lawson he has to be the starter, period. You simply can't trust Burnett to man any starting spot at this point.

DallasInDC
03-14-2006, 08:14 AM
Guys... when I reread my post I had made a mistake...

JJT said the Cowboys will likely NOT keep Key... I have fixed it since... sorry...

This is exactly why I think TO will be a cowboy. If key is released The only real options available are TO or trade for JW. Key's salary (even with his stated raise) is very reasonable for the production he provides. and anyone else out therewould command as much if not more for less production.

Also Considering this is a weak WR draft it would be risky to rely on the draft to replace key. Even though Crayton had a great start to the season last year, I would not feel comfortable with him as the outright #2 right now.

maxsports
03-14-2006, 08:15 AM
I don't have much faith in what JJT has to say. What I will say, is there is no way the Cowboys cut Key without signing someone. If that is what happens, then we have already given up 2006. You cannot go into the season with Glenn, Crayton, Copper, and a rookie. We will get smoked evey game and have no running game. Surely that cannot be their plan.

TruBlueCowboy
03-14-2006, 08:16 AM
This is exactly why I think TO will be a cowboy. If key is released The only real options available are TO or trade for JW. Key's salary (even with his stated raise) is very reasonable for the production he provides. and anyone else out therewould command as much if not more for less production.

Also Considering this is a weak WR draft it would be risky to rely on the draft to replace key. Even though Crayton had a great start to the season last year, I would not feel comfortable with him as the outright #2 right now.

The only reason I don't think they would gamble with Crayton is because Bill recently made a comment saying he once thought Crayton could be his #2 guy for the future, but now he's not sure. Maybe Moulds instead? You'd think they would bring in someone instead of gambling on Glenn & Crayton with not much to back that up.

Woods
03-14-2006, 08:19 AM
The only reason I don't think they would gamble with Crayton is because Bill recently made a comment saying he once thought Crayton could be his #2 guy for the future, but now he's not sure. Maybe Moulds instead? You'd think they would bring in someone instead of gambling on Glenn & Crayton with not much to back that up.

I have to say, I still think the odds are Key is back. End of the day, BP trusts him, and he has been playing well. Let's see how accurate JJT is with his ramblings.

Jarv
03-14-2006, 08:20 AM
I don't have much faith in what JJT has to say. What I will say, is there is no way the Cowboys cut Key without signing someone. If that is what happens, then we have already given up 2006. You cannot go into the season with Glenn, Crayton, Copper, and a rookie. We will get smoked evey game and have no running game. Surely that cannot be their plan.

Don't forget Mr. Rector, our secret weapon !

Zaxor
03-14-2006, 08:25 AM
Don't forget Mr. Rector, our secret weapon !


I thought it was Mr. A. Rectal that was the secret weapon... oops maybe that was super secret:confused::eek:

Ashwynn
03-14-2006, 08:28 AM
Music to my ears. I can only pray he had his finger on the right pulse this time. :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

silverbear
03-14-2006, 08:28 AM
Man do I hope he is right

You and me both, old buddy...

Avery
03-14-2006, 08:29 AM
Our WR corps are thin if we cut Key and don't add TO. Glenn is good but Crayton is still unproven as a starter.

If we go WR in the draft, it better not be until after the first round. Neither Holmes or Jackson excite me.

Right now, the best receiving corps in the NFC East belong to the Skins whether they overpaid or not.

silverbear
03-14-2006, 08:29 AM
Wait till the TO to Dallas bubble is popped. All the TO fans are going to be despondent. And thats a GREAT thing.

And if it goes the other way, all of us TO haters are gonna be pretty despondent too...

ConcordCowboy
03-14-2006, 08:30 AM
JJT:
Even from my inside sources, I can get no one that knows anything about TO making a visit here.

Of course not...The Cowboys aren't going to be crowing about Owens visiting or signing anything...He's still under contract.

But wait until 4:01PM today if the eagles release him...I'm sure it will be different then!:D

Jarv
03-14-2006, 08:33 AM
Foggy here in the NE...I'm bringing in a cold front. Sorry, the airport is closed.

Zaxor
03-14-2006, 08:33 AM
And if it goes the other way, all of us TO haters are gonna be pretty despondent too...

I hate being despondent...it is such a downer:)

Redball Express
03-14-2006, 08:34 AM
I have to say, I still think the odds are Key is back. End of the day, BP trusts him, and he has been playing well. Let's see how accurate JJT is with his ramblings.

Key doesn't leave.

He might be gone at the end of this year at the end of his contract.

But not right now.

Remember, Key converts on 3rd downs way beyond any receiver we have and in the RedZone, he's a big target that can leap and fight thru double-teams in close traffic.

That's why they occassionally play him in the secondary in last second defenses.

This is a tempest in a teapot thing.

No way Key is cut. This team just began to jell offensively before all the injuries with Bledsoe. No way you are going to start making wholesale changes to the chemistry.

You tweak it, add to it, but I don't think you get addition by subtraction by cutting Key and bringing Moulds instead.

Bring Moulds in as insurance incase of injury..?

Sure.

Bring him to add a veteran 3rd WR Bledsoe will appreciate.

Sure.

Draft a WR in the 2-3 rds. of the Draft to add depth or speed.

Sure.

And TO isn't coming here, either.

parcellswaterboy

Jarv
03-14-2006, 08:35 AM
I hate being despondent...it is such a downer:)

Speaking of, have you sent me the little bottle that Farve dropped in the castle over there in Rhein land ? I might need it after 4 today....

visionary
03-14-2006, 08:55 AM
If Jerry doesn't keep Keyshawn becuse he doesn't want to play him an extra 1.5 million, that's just being cheap. He's been a bargain the past 2 years, and has earned his roster bonus (and a modest raise). I'm begining to think Jerry is living off of reputation as a owner who will pay whatever it takes to win. I'm not asking him to go out and overpay for every free agent that fills a hole, but releasing Key over 1.5 is ridiculous. There clearly has been a Herculian gap between Jerry and Dan Snyder as far as financial commitment to their team this offseason. Maybe that will change as th offseason goes along, but Jerry is in a completely lower tier.

IR, i think you are looking at this the wrong way. I think JJs commitment to the team is every bit as atrong as than of little napolean. I think that in this case JJ will follow BPs advice since KJ was/is one of his players. if you can pay 5 million bonuses to players like Kosier and Ayodele then you can pay 1.5 mill to someone like KJ. I think KJ has been a good soldier here through some tough times and would love for him to be on the team as we make a serious push to the post season (hopefully this year) but the fact is that both KJ and TO have IMMENSE egos and I dont know if even BP can keep these 2 in check. Both these guys have to be the #1 guys on their team and I dont know that either (in this case likely KJ) can keep it together all year if he is relegated to # 3 in a run first offense, take a lot less money than TO, and play second fiddle to him. If oyu think (as I do) that it will be tough to keep TO in line (even if he is on his best behavior) can you imagine what the locker room would be like with an acting out TO and a disgruntled KJ? Thats what I call a recipe for disaster.

I really think BP not JJ will make the final call on KJ and TO. I have to believe that since they havent told KJ anything that they are not releasing him. I cant imagine that BP would short shrift a guy like KJ.

just my 2 cents.

Champsheart
03-14-2006, 08:57 AM
Would the release of Keyshawn mean they are clearing the way for TO?

Everyone I've talked to in and out of the building say they don't think so. But the question is do you trust Patrick Crayton as a #2? There really isn't much out there right now as far as starting WR's go. Are you going to get
Eric Moulds? He's the same age as Keyshawn and really not any better. If that's all you're looking at then you might as well pay Keyshawn his money. Also, that means you've released Keyshawn, Dan Campbell and LeRoi Glover in an offseason, so you've removed 3 of the best players in the lockerroom. Now, Keyshawn isn't buddy-buddy with all the players and he's a bit of a loner, but he also sets the tone at practice and he also isnt afraid to get in a player's face and challenge them if he thinks they aren't buying into the program, and the Cowboys really don't have a lot of players like that in their lockerroom. Terry Glenn is a terrific player, but he normally doesn't play 16 games and he doesn't make 3rd down catches down the middle. He does certain things very well, but Keyshawn bringsa lot of other things to the table.


Does the signing of Kosier mean that LA will be off the roster?
I can't see how they would spent $5 million up front for a guard and not release Larry Allen.

Is Ayodele an upgrade over Fujita?
Slight upgrade, because he's probably a better run stopper and he was a pass rusher in college so he's more versatile. What I keep hearing about him is he plays the run extremely well. I've hnd people tell me he's very similar to Bradie James. I thik they'll add a LB high in the draft, and don't forget Kevin Burnett. He won't be 100% back from his knee injury next year but he should be more experienced


Kosier for Allen, Ayodele for Fujita ... the Cowboys really haven't taken many steps forward.

Nope, the thing about Larry is that I'm critical of his play compared to his salary. He's still a good player, but not a great player. Is Kosier a good player? You would assume he is since they paid him that money.

I remember seeing him at tackle, he was lost in space.
No, you don't want to play him at tackle. He's a guard. That's like playing Larry Allen at tackle.

How close did the Cowboys come to getting Longwell?
They are weird about kickers. Are you going to keep losing games because of your kicker? They really never got involved in Longwell once it reached a certain number, so you wouldn't expect them to do it for Vinny. It looks like they'll bring in a retread or another unknown guy.

Are the Cowboys persuing Marcus Coleman?
You would think so, but Coleman had some issues with alcohol last year. He missed some meetings and practices, and Chris Palmer was there so he can tell them all about it.

I'm getting a feeling that Cowboy fans are disappointed at the start of free agency.
Oh, I would say there is more than just a little disappointment. If you read the messageboards out there, Cowboy fans are waiting for a shoe to drop. Maybe TO is the other shoe to drop. I haven't gotten a word, even from my most reliable people, that TO is coming here. But maybe its just between Jerry and Bill.

Blah, Blah, Blah! JJT is making no sense here. All this tells me is his sources are not very good, and he uses the internet to evaluate players.

He is saying no Key, and no TO. I find that extremely difficult to believe, as a matter of fact I do not believe it at all.

One will definetly be here! The question is which one. Possibly both?

Zaxor
03-14-2006, 08:59 AM
You and me both, old buddy...

isn't it about time for your annual draft report to come out:confused:

Zaxor
03-14-2006, 09:01 AM
Speaking of, have you sent me the little bottle that Farve dropped in the castle over there in Rhein land ? I might need it after 4 today....

Sorry man I might have to put a note in it and cast it out to sea

Sasquatch
03-14-2006, 09:04 AM
We know, although he has slipped, LA is still a pretty good player. We don't know that Kosier is. What I have read on the net say he isn't that good. (What? What he read on the net?...Isn't it his job to make a phone call? What about talking to someone with the Cowboys as to what their thinking was. Heck, I could have done that. What a total lack of effert on JJT's part. Can I get paid to look at the net and "report"...what a hack!)

No kidding.

lspain1
03-14-2006, 09:05 AM
Blah, Blah, Blah! JJT is making no sense here. All this tells me is his sources are not very good, and he uses the internet to evaluate players.

He is saying no Key, and no TO. I find that extremely difficult to believe, as a matter of fact I do not believe it at all.

One will definetly be here! The question is which one. Possibly both?

Champsheart, you have struck the fastener on its top!:hammer:

It seems JJT is indulging in the standard media past time in Dallas for the off season. Things are bad and getting worse BECAUSE NO ONE WILL TELL THEM ANYTHING. It still gripes them that Parcells controls information so well. I'll be the first to give JJT credit if he turns out right on this, but I'll bet money today he's all wet on the no Key and no TO rambling.

TheSkaven
03-14-2006, 09:08 AM
Wait till the TO to Dallas bubble is popped. All the TO fans are going to be despondent. And thats a GREAT thing.You want to see mayhem? If the Cowboys release Key over a measley 1.5 mil and don't sign TO (or worse, try to sign Moulds as a replacement), the team will have actually come out of FA with an additional hole to fill. This board will be hot.

I am not too concerned, I don't know who JJT talks to on the inside (if anyone) but he's rarely correct. I expect that Dallas would only release Key if TO was signed, and if they are planning to sign TO, my preference is to keep all three.